[000:00:00;00] has the opportunity to take away powers from the local council and transfer them to the military administration, you and i did not do this, why did such a rule arise, of course, sir, mr. volodymyr, do not interrupt, why did such a rule appear in our legislation, because in march 22 in 2018, when we changed the legislation on local self-government during martial law, we, including myself, personally with your colleague from the fraction artur garasov, wrote the rule that the transfer of powers without a decision of the parliament is impossible, it was common, by the way, then the work of the servant of the people and european solidarity, therefore, despite the presence of a court decision and a rather complex and strange case, which definitely does not brighten the history of local self-government, i would ask that we do not generalize things and say that some kind of general authority is bad, yes , there is a court precedent, bad judicial practice , and i don’t like this case either, but nevertheless, this does not mean that the usurpation is critical or something like that, thank you, but there are

a lot of questions, only about the central local authorities, now we are watching a big conflict, mrs. solomiya said that she does not like what is happening around the armed forces of ukraine and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, today we saw in one of the central online publications of ukraine, ukrainian pravda, a large text appeared , again about this conflict, although they say there is no conflict between zelenskyi and zaluzhny, but there is a conflict between... zelenskyi’s team and valery zaluzhny, judging by everything, well, from what is written in ukrainian pravda, some political ratings are given about , that zaluzhnyi can beat zelenskyi with 40% in the second round or come close to zelenskyi, who may have 42%, that is , it is not at all clear why

they are talking about elections now, it is not clear why... someone is being rated, it is not clear, as a result, when will these elections be held, and why, and why at all is a scumbag here, and a scumbag here, who does not show political ambitions, who does not say that he wants to become the president , who does not have a political party, who is a military man, he has an army, tasks which is to defeat russia, ms. solomi, like you you think, why is it constantly being torpedoed, that is, we know that there are representatives of the people's servants. such political torpedoes that torpedo the hard-working, well, every day, i watch one people's deputy, every day she torpedoes the head of the armed forces of ukraine, well, i want to say, listen, you have a commander-in-chief, well, already tell the commander-in-chief, if their does not suit, the hostage does not suit him, well , that means the supreme commander has to make a decision, if he suits

the hostage, then say publicly that me: it's fine, we don't need to make a split, because someone over there is making a split, ms. solomi, look, actually, it just seems to me that next year, despite all the singing, i don't know the president , the president's office, deputies and so on, we still after all, we will see some kind of election process, i want to be wrong about this, but there is another, different reason for such behavior, the entourage of the president, and i am particularly commenting here on my colleague, who allows herself to be beaten, and the country is shaking from this for the second week. and many questions from international journalists it concerns precisely these her behavior in relation to the central committee, and therefore it is perceived not only her behavior, but also the behavior of people's deputies or the president's entourage, as an attack on the commander- in-chief, and in the last week or two we see references to something rating of trust in the president and in the commander-in-chief, her rating polls

, which are not published on the rating website, which say the second, first round, that is, if we are honest, knowing what the situation is today at the front, with what intensity the battles are going on all areas of the front of the front, it just starts to annoy me to the point of impossibility, because there is a place for such chatter, conversations, articles, discussions, but for some reason there is no place for the president to come out together with the commander-in-chief to say that listen, calm down, we are working, our the task is victory, we are concentrated on kupinsky, bakhmutsk... mariinsky, avdiivsk, roboton, the left bank of kherson, and there we will shake hands and calm the society, this would be the right move, and, in my opinion, if i have the opportunity to give advice to the president from society , people also wanted to see it, not only the people themselves, but also the armed forces themselves, because their heads are completely filled with war, how to survive,

survive the winter, at a time when all... all energy of the top management is spent on some absolutely incomprehensible confrontations, i will tell you more that the relations are good, sometimes even outwardly, when you say what you say there, let them not worry. and often leads to resignation, and because knowing the situation there with special operations forces, it there were absolutely adequate relations, between the president and the commander, you are less, and the bet took place behind the back of the head and behind the backs of all other colleagues, commanders, who simply did not understand how to perceive this , such a resignation behind the back, respectively, and i actually also consider this to be interference, direct political and military intervention, leadership, and therefore influence on the front... because the army is an army and maybe part of the army can be demoralized until a new person takes office and everything gets complicated, complicated, especially the directions that the forces are leading there, they quite specific. accordingly, even today's article, paste and

, today's ours in the ukrainian truth, these are all things that inflame the degree, and from from from and so high, and well, we clearly see, first of all, again, i want to emphasize the numbers , secondly, i want to remind, er... if someone lives by elections, then i believe that these are people who simply do not have the right to look people in the eye and identify themselves with someone, it will simply be a deep, huge mistake, this first and second, i will allow myself to comment on the previous ones as well your question, and about military administrations and local self-government bodies, i want to remind you that, in fact, on the 20th month of the war , military administrations are still being created, very often it is difficult to justify why they are created, in particular, for example, we are talking about new cities , where there is, for example , the netishen nuclear power plant, but where it is not, if it is in a stew, or for some reason there is still no military administration in the city of mariupol, no one can explain it, and i want to remind you about the distribution of the extreme pdf of the military between min digits

and procurement by drones, where the person who was supposed to be responsible was put in sizo, which was released in a day for uah 45 million, if i am not mistaken, bail, that is, you see, it passes by here , and it seems that everything is clear, but how does this happen, what to do with it then , how to correct these mistakes, this is a question, because we sleep in advance, we don’t want to look for compromises, i’m so used to it, they are painful compromises, but it’s not an option to take 90% from local budgets, and at the same time spend 20 months and not to work for the government, for which funds can be called, for which they cannot go funds, so it seems to me that it is time to change the government or something else entirely, since the dynamics have not changed, the dynamics of the life of the regions have changed, a completely new and different cardinal approach to this is to look for and admit mistakes, there is nothing wrong with this, but to talk about them, but i don't want to cover up this social malice and turn everyone against everyone, because the nickname was a statement, it was quite unpleasant, it was already a war of all camps among themselves against everyone, and this political war was not started by parliamentarians or mayors

i understand this war, unfortunately, it must be said frankly, because of the president, starting with which they began to destabilize society from the magazine, and then it went, it went down in history, and the next business trip, it doesn’t matter who it was, it could have been applied to anyone , but such approaches, they are wrong, not irrelevant and generally inadequate , they are self -indulgent. i don't know if the unity government it is quite active, the discussion of national unity has been discussed for at least the last few months, and right now, right next to you , on the tv screen, and in the parliament,

representatives of various political forces, and journalists, and politicians, we are all united in the military one goal, to defeat russia, uh, why, why do these political jealousies constantly arise. or, i don't know what to call it, political jealousy, i guess, why, why is it constantly being spewed out, why can't it be done as they do in the same israel, when all political misunderstandings are put aside at a time when the country is in danger, thank you so much, although i think that this question should not have been directed to me, but to everyone, i will explain why, even though i i represent... the parties in power when we talk about any points of tension, and i agree in many things with what ms. solomie said, that it really is in the interest of statehood and actually some kind of complete reconciliation and consolidation to dominate, now

answering the question , which is missing now, i will say this regardless of political affiliation, simply based on my internal reflection, you know, when in particular the parliament and all branches of government and even all political parties were united and acted together. it was around the end of february, march, well, maybe even april 2022, because when russian tanks were standing directly around kyiv and were fighting for borodyanka, and at the risk of everyone there was a question of survival, then there were no political vicissitudes, about whether there is a policy now in the ukrainian political community, unfortunately, why do we lack the wisdom to reject some political things on a different plan, well , surely this is a question that everyone, every politician of every political party must answer directly within himself, why these may not be enough, here it is worth noting , that

indeed, when it comes to some issues related to the provision of the armed forces or our european integration, synergy exists, as for other points, as a rule, some really do arise incomprehensible things, i, as one of the 400 representatives of the parliament, of course, would like the parliament to work more slowly, but in many issues we managed to find a consensus, i think that would be normal. now about that, i will allow myself to react to the previous speaker, about several things, more specific, first of all, i also believe that the biggest internal threat now exists - it is to get some kind of, well, not an escalation, but an increased tension between the military and military and political leadership, that's it that is blown from every iron, it is very bad, of course, that it inspires everything as well. this and the russian federation

, of course, separate regular publications of a separate people's deputy, who, by the way , a month or two ago also went to the posts of our colleagues with seven-month-old children and urged them to send these children to the front, so this definitely does not add rationality, reason and restraint of behavior, so i hope that, after all, since we are gathering at these moments, we will be able to avoid precisely political discord. well, in the end, i still am i will answer one more point, ms. solomi , since i am always in the context of local self-government issues, there are no military administrations in mariupol and melitopol, ms. solomi, because this is an agreed position , in particular with international donors, because in these cities, especially in mariupol, there are the huge number of internally displaced persons, and the introduction of a military administration , they effectively canceled the possibility of attracting international donations to support these peposhniks, and as for the community on whose territory it is located

khmelnytskyi nuclear power plant, i am asking you to address this question precisely to representatives of the general staff because you are a representative of the security and defense committee, thank you. thank you, mr. volodymyr, may i answer? yes, please, i absolutely agree with vitaly that such a sincere feeling of unity in the parliament was precisely at the end of february, march, a little bit of april, when the threat was very close to kyiv. indeed , the threat promotes unity. unfortunately, later, when the threat was gone, when even hopes appeared for a possible quick victory, the desire of the authorities, including the president, to monopolize this probable future victory as much as possible, so it is obvious that there was no question of any kind of unity, of the creation of a government of national unity. now the situation unfortunately has become worse again, now the situation in the belief that victory will happen in the near future in a few months is obviously going away due to the rational information that we

are getting, so now probably, i'm sure, the best opportunity would really be for the president of the country, who is supposed to represent this unity, to really announce the creation of a government of national unity, then he would really show himself as a national leader, not a party leader, as a person who understands that he is leading the state in a very difficult situation and takes it upon himself responsibility for the fate of this country, unfortunately, this is not happening yet. instead, on the contrary, those discussions that are started at least from the president's entourage, so that you do not talk about mrs. mariana indiscriminately during the four years of her work in the parliament, the only thing i can definitely do about her to say that she was always a loyal soldier, to the office of the president, always did what was necessary for the office of the president, so now, instead of talking about some kind of unity, we need to take steps aimed at this unity, and i am sure , which is just a concept. the government of national unity would be the nullification

of all those unnecessary contradictions of preparations for some political elections, contradictions between the military and politicians, which are really seriously weakening us now. thank you, mr. volodymyr, ladies and gentlemen, after after a short break, we will return to the studio , this is what i say to our viewers and our guests, i will emphasize that we are conducting a survey and remind, and this survey sounds like this: do you see attempts to usurp power in ukraine, you now see phone numbers on the screens, by calling , which you can vote for if you see these attempts to usurp power. vote on 0800 211-381, if you don't see it, then 0800 211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, we'll be back in the studio in a few minutes,

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expel phlegm. this is a live broadcast of the tv channel and the verdict program. i am sergey. continuing our conversation with our guests, but before we continue the program further, i will remind you of the survey that we are conducting today about the survey, so do you see attempts to usurp power in ukraine, yes no, if so, then 0800 211-381 by phone, no, 0800 211-382, all calls are for you, these numbers are free, now let's look at the intermediate ones, the results of this survey, the day sees attempts to usurp power in ukraine, 9% no, well, that is, a sufficiently large sample , 2,200 viewers participated at this moment in the survey, 91% say that they see attempts to usurp

power, mrs. solomiya, bobrovska, i am appealing to you, please tell me what, what exactly... these show the results of the fact that, well, not everyone can watch tv channels espresso, if we are talking about an attempt to usurp power, and as a result we get such a result of 91%. why, why viewers, why citizens , after all, are wary of what is happening in ukraine, and obviously this figure is 91%, i look and there is also a broadcast on our youtube channel, more than 90 people have voted, so there is attempted usurpation of power, how to explain it, look, it just seems to me that the spresso tv channel is watching a certain segment of people who, i either did not watch, or are tired of watching a single news marathon, and understand it seems to me that even the supporters of the single

marathon, when it was effective, in the month of march, and when the situation was completely different, the dynamics... of each of us and it was all united, he was so detached from life that a person was whether it's in the village, whether it's a teacher, whether it's a doctor, whether it's a business person, it's just a complete total disconnection from real life, and this failure is quite palpable, ask anyone on the street who watches or who doesn't watch television at all , so the segment that espresso is watching obviously, obviously has a position and he understands what is happening at work, at work he comes to you... the tax office, which came back with inspections, and which simply rips off three skins from the business, which tries to work in white, and then the tsc comes to you, which takes away people of chiloviki , which they do not carry out the plan, and another business can sneak in somehow, or be booked and not go, they will give away, they will give away people, and for others, the question is, where is the local

government looking, which laid the cobblestones there and so on, and someone is satisfied with corruption at the highest level, and someone, and someone, someone is simply killed thoughts, will anyone return home, from those who serve in the family, because the military unit does not communicate with them and there is no patronage service as such, with there or with work from families, families, in case of death or loss either there or the injury is close , so there will actually be more questions than before, accordingly, such and such answers, because people want to communicate and see the president, including the government, including their deputies, and even deputies, some on... espresso is the deputies who work in their constituencies, work with z voters, and those who have never left, or are top, i don't know, closed of another caste are represented. and he really thinks that the people are like sheep who will go and do what is needed, or, for example, yuriy boyko, who

, i apologize, was on february 24, he stood with us at the press conference at 7 o'clock or something, when we voted for martial law, but a few days later i gave an interview to solovva and told about what is happening here in ukraine, how everything there speaks of a civil war, people are still in the parliament, thank you, thank you, ma'am straw, last week , president zelenskyi made a rather important statement about president zelenskyi, and now we are waiting to see how this statement will be implemented regarding the construction of fortifications in ukraine. now it is winter , it is clear that it will be quite difficult to build these fortifications, but , as i understand it, such a decision has already been made, and unfortunately this decision was not made two years ago, when our western partners warned and talked about that it is necessary to dig trenches in the south, when... the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba, visited of the united states of america, but

, well, no matter what, there is such a decision and it has already been announced that these fortifications will be built in the regions, in different regions, mr. vitaly, what are they saying on the ground, in the regions , as i know that you now travel quite often to different regions, as, as a local authority. on this, will it be involved in this, is it only the agency for the restoration of ukraine headed by mustafa nayem and with private funds that will be invested there, that is, do you know how this is a great fortification of ukraine, how it will be occur? well, let's say, in the context of those regions where fortification due to the fact that the security situation allowed, nevertheless there is a certain cross-border threat, the construction of fortifications continued directly from this presidential announcement and it continued in close full cooperation between representatives

of the local self-government, military administrations, border guards and military personnel directly, what role in this process, apart from beautiful slides, is played by mr. nayem's agency, i don't know, so i'm not ready to talk about what it does in this context, i think that it is precisely the dense and normal effective cooperation... of the central government and the local government, we hope, including through the help of financial international partners, because we understand that deep level of dependence on us materially from the funds of the european union, the united states and other partners, will allow us to strengthen the fortification line directly in those regions where it currently does not look so strong, i apologize for the taftology of the outposts, as in some areas, i will not specific areas and areas...' i think for some rational security reasons, nevertheless, in some areas it has really been quite a long time, it is quite developed and not bad, i think

that there is definitely no enemy there will pass , at least in a simple way, well, in principle, facing such large-scale problems as , unfortunately, we faced in the zaporizhzhia direction, tell me, mr. volodymyr, i am turning to volodymyravych, can this great fortification of... ukraine turn into big construction when there will be many more complaints than we will receive, that is, complaints about the use of money, or about what is being built, where it is being built, how it is being built, and you had the experience of defending kyiv from the russian invaders, you were in tro and you were on the hottest routes, where the russians actually tried to enter, the absence of fortifications there at that time, or the presence of these fortifications, if they were there,

how it would affect the course of hostilities around the capital in february and march, well, i am sure that if there were fortifications of some kind in the north of kyiv region, it is obvious that there were no russian troops, because here i am, where i am talking to you now, i am talking from vorzel, where the russians entered on february 25, where they then went to bucha, where they entrenched themselves from buchi, where later we very hard knocked them out of buchi, i will remind you that even in kyiv on february 24-25 , the first attempts to build some fortifications were very funny, that is, people built with something, it rather resembled the maidan than , than what should have been, only somewhere on the third or fourth day they finally started some concrete barriers, roadblocks appear, that is, we actually, at least here in the kyiv region, in kyiv... well, let's be honest, we were completely unprepared for this attack from the north, and this was one of the reasons why

the russians approached so quickly almost to kyiv , as regards whether there will be... abuses in the current constructions, well , it seems to me that there should already be a colossal role of both society and the media so that, god forbid, this does not happen, we all perfectly understand how important it is , we all perfectly understand that this is a question of the lives of thousands of people, again, if there were strong fortifications built here in the kyiv region, i am sure that the number of people killed in any of the former settlements would not have been so large, i am sure. that it will not come to the point that someone will try to make money on such things, as for the fact that it is being done only now, of course, it is better late than never, someone may say that it is very difficult to build at this time, but i let me remind you that last year in december, january, february, the russians built those fortifications in the south, which essentially

to some extent restrained the effectiveness of our counteroffensive in the south. thank you, mr. volodymyr, ms. solomia, what do you have to say about this, whether or not we can in a very short time make up for what, in principle, probably, should have been there and built not only from 2022, but probably even earlier, we had to prepare for a big war with russia anyway, because one way or another, well, it was just inevitable, you know, i'm quite categorical on this issue, because i also don't like the story with the way the certification facilities were put by the president or his advisers, i don't know who he didn't say it for two years or he said it, but it was done, why, categorically, because now we have december of the 23rd year, which means that we have 20 months of full-scale invasion, and indeed in the regions where the heads of the regional military administrations , or the commanders

of their groups, or tactical... sectors, they were actually obliged to do this even today, after all, from what i know, in almost all regions with the northern border, we have chilorussians or muscovites, we have them to varying degrees, i really don't like it the situation in chernihiv oblast and sumy oblast, i will say this publicly, because in the russian media , a lot can be found in telegram channels, how russian subversive groups feel, how they work, how many of our border guards and officers of the armed forces, or servicemen of the armed forces , they are shot, killed, they come in and work , and we need to talk about it, and attention , for example, to chernihiv oblast, sumshchyna, we need to turn, turn and talk about it loudly, i understand that we will constantly lack forces and means, manpower , first of all, but then no less, let the muscovites roam

here like at home, if such things happen, then it is necessary... and to close those gaps where they walk or drive cars, moreover, in different ways, both civilian and non- military, this is not technique, thank you, when we are talking about two seconds, when we are talking about the front, there is a completely different situation, and these questions should not be asked 20 months later, but there was bakhmut, after bakhmut the first or second line, there is audio after audio of the village 1.23 and these are elementary things that are decided on the bet. definitely not in december or november, when the earth, thank you, thank you, ms. solomiya, we have to finish, solomiya bobrovska, vitaly bezgin and volodymyr vyatrovych were guests of our program today, thank you for participating in the program, and i would like to remind you that during the program we conducted a survey , we asked you about this, do you see attempts to usurp power in ukraine, so what

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