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announced the candidates for the person of the year and they put it all on the cover and here i cringe no less when on one cover there is the main communist emperor of communist china xi jinping, the barbie doll, the king of great britain and volodya putin are the people of the year , so you understand, so no one canceled the opportunity to break through the bottom and listen to see if there is a knock from below, now we will talk about things that are more down-to-earth and important for us, valery romanenko , aviation expert, leading researcher of the state aviation museum, in touch with us, glory to ukraine, mr. valery, aviation university, glory, good morning, mr. valery, let's talk about neptunes, ukrainian and not just about neptunes, but about that modification

missiles, about which the deputy minister of defense of ukraine recently announced that it will actually be, about which ones, yes, whether it will be, whether it will be, what terms are needed for this coastal missile complex not to be neptune with an r300 missile, which 360, which adopted earlier , and whether - can we further modify it and where to use it? and why not , this is a basic complex, it is still old, well, as a basic model, an old soviet missile was used, it seems, r35, yes, then it was made, anti-ship, what is anti-ship, it is a missile that distinguishes a target, a radio-contrast target, a metal ship, on the background of water, different reflections, and the missile is aimed at the targets from which the reflection is best, a metal surface, corner reflectors, any ship, there are a bunch of these corner reflectors, so that this

missile can be used for ground targets , you just need to change the guidance system, because for radio-contrast targets, well, it’s difficult to find radio-contrast targets on the earth’s surface, there is a completely different guidance principle, well , for example, if you take the stormshadow, then the missile at first it flies looking at the terrain below it, for example, like during the second world war, the pilots just looked down and navigated there along the railways, along the rivers, the rocket now has such a set of digital maps of miss... and just takes a picture below it, compares and adjusts its path in this way, because according to gps, you understand, it means that it is not lazy, now it does not interfere with gps systems, to hope for a satellite system, especially for a long range, when launching an expensive rocket, there are millions of dollars for

a long range, well, a more advanced system is needed, and this opto-optical orientation system is quite reliable, it is complex. programming, but it is passive and does not depend, well, it is not affected by any radio interference, well, only the weather can affect it, at the final stage, yes, i’ll take one more second, at the final stage , it additionally, more accurately scans the area and compares in order to to hit there with an accuracy of plus or minus 5 m. this is now installed on the new neptune and increases by one range, well, if that is proven and reliable information and the flagship of the submarine black sea fleet of russia cruiser moscow and neptune met, then in this case i have a question for you as a specialist, we are talking about a missile that has a subsonic

speed, and we believe that there is no analogue of air defense on ships and on earth in the russian federation, if it was neptune, why. the latest anti-aircraft defense, which was on the cruiser moskva, could not catch the neptune, and could their anti-aircraft really be able to fight the modernized neptune? well, it will show, so to speak experience of use, but why was it not able to impress? well, firstly, the missile, the russians didn't expect to hit their ship, yes, they didn't think we had one. the missiles that are capable of reaching this ship in the zone where it was from, in which it was, let's just say, relaxed a little, in addition, there was a very successful hit, just on the ammunition cellars, and such anti-aircraft guns, which

actually and had to shoot down this missile, because it is more effective to shoot down this missile with the so-called weapons of the last resort, weapons of the last chance, with anti-aircraft ... automatic weapons that make 6,000 shots per minute, such a wall of fire, yes, yes, yes, yes, there, such a beam of fire goes to meet the rocket, and they react very quickly, very like, well, like american volcanoes, such very mobile installations, in fact , about how to shoot down, but how do we shoot down , we say, let's go on, mr. valery, our air defense fighters have already shown how they work with martlets, these are such ... guided missiles that were handed over to us by the british, now we will show this footage, and you please describe, in fact, what technical and tactical characteristics are there, as with those to work with missiles, the range is up to 8 km, where they can be used, and well, martlets are,

let's say, a missile that is used by a manpads, well, you see, it is precisely a manpads that is portable anti-aircraft. missile complex. and what does he give us, do we have the opportunity to work with him with tactical front-line aviation, russian. we can only work. they don't fly that close, i wanted to use the word, but it's not ethereal, so, okay, mr. valery, then let's give it another way, where can we use these missiles, or is this actually the help from the british that we have now relevant and necessary, or should they be postponed for a certain time, when it will be more relevant? well , let's put it this way, everything they give, you know, they don't give us so much that we put it off, yes. it's not about us now to bother about something.

the situation with martlets is like this, first of all, they are used by anti-aircraft missiles, which means that the line that the range of russian strikes, for russian attack aircraft and helicopters, is even more increased. in addition, now they were showing the complex, this stormer, yes, which means that it can already use these missiles. so to speak in packages, ugh, what a principle the use of this missile, it does not have thermal guidance, laser beam guidance, that is, it is much more difficult to obstruct it, because for thermal missiles, there are many means on russian attack helicopters and attack aircraft, how to simply take this missile away, or shoot a false target , thermal, trap. which missile will be aimed at instead of being aimed at the aircraft, and if our old manpads, they were effective at 3-3.5-4 km, then

the starstreak is the predecessor for these complexes, the predecessor of the marklet, it sowed km, and how do you they said correctly, martlya is already 8 km away from the zone of activity of the enemy's air force, and the further it is, the less accurate it is. missiles that they launch from attack aircraft, and more circular deflection, and besides, most of the russian missiles, like the tam s-8 and even their latest unguided missiles, the t-13, they don't fly through such an area at all, uh, that's why , so that, in order to strike our positions, to carry out an air strike, they must already fly into the zone of damage of these missiles, of course, thank you, mr. valery, and there are other scarce missiles for those pppo systems, which we already have, we apparently received from

our partners, zelskyi said so, maybe you can shed some light on what it is, what quantities, for what purpose? well, to all the systems , there is a shortage of everything, you see the raids, well , recently 75 missiles, or 74, i already have 75, yes, they shot down 74, shahedis, shahedis, sorry to... okay, 40% of them were shot down mobile groups and artillery means of destruction, yes, but still we spent dozens of missiles on them, at least, yes, and used all types of missiles, including sometimes even patriot, in extreme cases over kiev, that is, that is all everything that they give us for sams, and airist, and patriot, and even pzrk, we really need all this, and if the british gave us new missiles with a longer range than the martlet,

which, so far, this complex is not about them was announced, but they are already being used on the front lines, because they generally have a range of 12 km, 12-16 km, so now we need practically all, practically all types of anti-aircraft missiles, because the russians are still striking like this, so to speak the first according to the positions of our anti-aircraft missile systems, secondly, they are trying to repeat their trick, but the spring of this year has passed, well, it hasn’t even passed, so that we shot all our stocks of missiles, and here is the task of the allies, to make sure that we do not run out of anti-aircraft missiles, yes it is clear, and finally, we have already , absolutely, understood from all of our experts that russian planes will still bombard us with guided aerial bombs at a distance of 40 plus kilometers

, they will fly up to such a distance and we see how cabs along the right bank of the dnieper are working on the front line, and the f16 is the only panacea, or is there another panacea that may appear before the ukrainian f-16 appears in our skies. well, if they give us more patriots. we can take a risk with one or two complexes, so why not, this is the best means , he gets these russian su-34 bombers, destroying... su-35s, which are mainly used to drop these cabs, that was a good example of pppo of the bryansk people's republic, when there are two planes, three helicopters, the whole battle group, which helicopters were used there , radio-percode productions, fighter jets, bombers with bombs, ugh, everything was shot down with one salvo,

and it was so beautiful there, well, i think that someday there will be something like this... a more popular story is that the patriot hall was like that, it was patriot hall, it was a patriot hall, but there the patriot radar only turned on once for a moment , just for a moment, just to ensure the launch, and all the time there was an old soviet radar that the russians were used to and were sure there was nothing else in that area no, here it is so the af-16 is not a panacea either, but it is huge and can even be on the order of ... the number of these nalts, because now they reach hundreds, thank you, mr. valery, valery romanenko, an aviation expert and leading researcher of the state the museum of aviation was with us, we are moving on, and our next guest, pavel usov, a belarusian political scientist , is already in touch with us

. the visit is not to president lukashenka to china the most i liked how lukashenko sobbed in front of sidzenpin and swore to him eternal friendship, that's what i read on the internet, this is what this visit looked like and why lukashenko went to the red emperor of china, well, on the internet you can find different, official propaganda that it was a fateful visit of lukashenko, a new heapolitical one was formed, beijing, moscow, minsk, and this new force will decide the destinies, in fact of the whole world, and lead, lead mankind to a new happy future, so

these are such anecdotal stories just such are taught by official propaganda. and this narrative works on all levels , well, if you objectively assess why lukashenka went there, and what this visit means for him personally and for belarus, the community, you can consider several vectors here, well, first of all, of course, for lukashenka some kind of international activity is needed, international recognition and reliance on some big players, and in this case , china is the only one, the only partner and the only ally that lukashenka can reach and go to today. the second point, of course, is the basis of this visit from a larger informational context, because these were made again by this official propaganda

statement that, as i have already said, some new heapaltychnych was formed. alliance and , for example, in propaganda, even in the official , semi-official one, they talk about the great one and about the father, you know, i even compared these two with sharkhan and tabaki, or the cardinal, and the haberdasher, if you remember, in the three musketeers, this is sila, the cardinal and the haberdasher, here is the big si and the father is a force that will bring the whole world to its knees, this is exactly the propaganda effect that had to be created, this is the main goal, the key of this visit was, and it is precisely on this that now, and all the official press and propaganda is concentrated, yes, i actually, i would like to clarify here, because the fact that lukashenka was fed well and deliciously,

everyone has already seen it, a special menu, but it is very difficult to believe here that he went only to have some contacts of his own, to show that his the role is also important, what is needed with it to count, well, apparently lukashenko also received some orders from putin, which he had to carry out in china, what could it be, what did he go there with, what is not on the surface, what putin ordered, but here it is here... very even the visit itself is interesting for him, it’s just that before that he was in dubai in the united arab emirates, he spoke at a forum on the forum: ecological and also showed a new, new one too, well, not a new one, but an old traditional direction for him, and immediately almost left for beijing, it is very difficult for him here

it is important to emphasize that it was informational and psychological, that he enjoys some autonomy, because even in this propaganda, informational narrative, moscow was not present, they mentioned moscow somewhere, but only the great xi and his father, and there was not even a mention of putin . no one could advise him there, and with what message he went there from putin, well, actually, it's hard to say, because i think that there is no need for some additional communication intermediaries for putin to do things directly with sidzipin. therefore, i would not exaggerate here significant role of lukashenka in this dialogue. here is a clarification, look, this is a very important

moment, because putin is going to, to siy, but then it turns out that the power of siberia will not even be built with the funds that russia will ask for a loan from china and complete it, but with the funds of russia, but at least they can actually offer some oil and gas with dumping, but what does lukashenko offer? russia, at least the entire auto industry, moskvich glues the caps on chinese ones and at least makes money for them on the auto industry and on aliexpress, and what does he do lukashenko for china is such that sidzenpin considers him more than an informational and propaganda partner, there is no such thing as china will consider belarus and lukashenka's privacy as nothing. bigger than it is, than the periphery of the province, if we evaluate this change in the geopolitical configuration, we must proceed from the fact that, as it seems to me, china

is changing its approach to world politics in general, that is, before even the second war against ukraine , china maintained the illusion that the world was only interested in it economic interests and the promotion of its own economy since the beginning of the war, it seems to me that china has reformatted its approaches in foreign policy in general, they have become more strategic military, and in this context, when we talk about the fact that china is becoming a strategic player in the world, for it belarus becomes a new colony, i.e. a space where these, for example, strategic interests can emerge, because last year, this year, next year, next year there will be another military exercise by belarus and china, something that has never happened in history, and i don't even include the possibility that if this geopolitical

new approach of china develops, a chinese military base may appear in belarus. belarus builds its own drones exclusively on chinese replacement parts, now there is a war of drones and the formation of military equipment. production of drones in belarus is becoming key, and here china will be the main partner, because both belarus and russia are under sanctions, and of course, the production of drones can go both to domestic demand and the market, and to russia, because russia also requires more and more new mechanisms and weapons for waging war, it was also announced that joint missile construction would continue, these palanese systems, which were in china, were created jointly with china in belarus in 15-16, they are understood, that is , in fact, not the economic and agrarian complex, and

the military complex, this is the prospect of minsk-beijing cooperation. mr. pavel, unfortunately, we don't have time anymore, but thank you very much for participating in the program, pavel uso, a belarusian political scientist, was in touch with us. then we go to the pause and ether tv channel i will continue news, stay tuned. attention, an incredible new product from unbox tv: super warm and very comfortable alaska style boots. perfect fit, water-repellent material and a feeling of warmth even in 30-degree frost. alaska style boots have a universal design and practical black color, so they will suit both men and women. sizes range from 36 to 46, so buy two pairs at once. to myself and my husband. furnace zippers will ensure a perfect fit even on the widest leg. the heater perfectly retains heat and wicks away moisture, and the upper is made of waterproof

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