therefore, let me decipher, first of all, we, the verkhovna rada, congress, the friendship group with congress, we are working as hard as we can to ensure that the vote takes place and that republicans and democrats support it. second, the ukrainian diaspora, ukrainian organizations, ukrainian organizations in the united states, from detroit, michigan, to sacramento and california, are also now raised, and we thank them all for writing to their congressmen, convincing, this is the most serious voice. that is, the voice of the voter to his congressman and they definitely help us and will help the congress to vote. the third group of support is honorary consulates, and they are headed by american citizens, honorary consulates of ukraine in america, consulates general of ukraine, which are headed by professional ukrainian diplomats, as well as the embassy in washington, that is, it is a consular diploma and diploma, you know, the echelon of diplomacy. which is also actively working. and all this in aggregate, i am convinced,

is a strong, ukrainian position, the only one, again my warning only to the thoughtless, in my view and harmful statements, such as those made , for example, by mrs. bezugla from the parliament, this prevents us from working, prevents the ukrainian diaspora from working, and prevents us and our american partners from speeding up the approval of defense aid to ukraine this year, so i reject the scenario that no... help and everything is lost, but i do not perceive it as rash and i repeat such counterproductive statements from individual representatives and even the presidential faction in the parliament, well, mr. valentin, you mentioned mariana bezuglu, after all, she is not just an ordinary people's deputy from the servant of the people, she is the deputy head of the parliamentary committee on national security and defense, that is , a person who, in principle, influences... the course

of the war, because she makes decisions, she makes statements, she calls on the meritorious person to resign, and in this situation , the lack of reaction from both the party leaders and the honorary leaders of the party, well, it raises a lot of questions, that is, is she saying it herself, is she not saying it herself, if she is not saying it herself, or someone writes instead of her these posts on facebook, well, this means... also that the party leaders are still responsible , how would you, as a specialist, as a person who worked for a long time in the special service, how would you characterize the role of mariyana bezugliy in this whole story? the content and timing of such statements is extremely beneficial to only one country, this is the aggressor country, the russian federation. second, the military organization and the commander-in- chief zaluzhnyi cannot... be

criticized politically, i repeat, politically, and deputies of the verkhovna rada are especially those who make political statements, engage in politics and interfere with the combat work of our armed forces and commanders -in-chief, and thirdly, everyone who does not know the legislation of ukraine should calm down, that the supreme commander, that is, the president, has the full right at any time to change any military commander-in-chief, if there is anyone to replace, but this is for his intelligence, for his decision, this is another additional evidence that no political advice, criticism and reproaches are needed in order for the country to continue to maintain its defense and support the armed forces of ukraine, that’s it in short and to the point, well and since we are about aid has already been mentioned, so i can't help but mention the statement of jens stolteng, the secretary general of nato, he said that

the allies should increase their support for our country, and he reported this in an interview with one of the german publications. do we have stolteng's synchronicity, please. well, actually, i will quote what stoltenberg said. we must also be prepared for bad news. the course of wars is not constant change. process. we must support ukraine in good and bad times. the current war is a war of attrition, it is a battle for efficiency, a battle for logistics. it is necessary to understand that in the event of putin's victory , tragedy awaits ukraine, but it will also be dangerous for us. well, here is the main question that arises when we talk about aid to ukraine, about the fact that the west, the western countries support it, nato supports it. is there

a common understanding of what ukraine's victory is and what russia's defeat is, because i ask about this quite often, but it seems to me that we always change. talking about it and well, we have to put the emphasis when, in the end, both nato and the united states, great britain, when they will understand that the defeat of russia is there, the removal of putin from power, or there is the collapse of russia, the victory of ukraine, it is when russia on the territory of russian troops will not be on the territory of the ukrainian state, when, when will this understanding be, whether and what is now in their understanding , the victory of ukraine and the defeat of russia, that is the main thing that we have. understanding and why our armed forces are fighting and we support everyone, in order to push the enemy out of our territory, in order to restore the territorial integrity of ukraine, in order to stop genocide, crimes against humanity and war crimes on our territory, and all three

of our such goals, they usually contain, this is the ousting of the aggressor russian federation from our territory, elimination. squeezing, however you like, first of all now, while there is a war , it is clear that by military means, without giving up other methods, that is , international sanctions, economic pressure on the aggressor, where we desperately need international help, now also about the secretary general, i i think, and i want to share my thoughts live with you, dear viewers, that as soon as the us congress will approve multilateral defense aid... to ukraine, this will be followed by decisions on further support for ukraine and the armed forces, countries, other nato member states, primarily germany, france, spain, i.e. the largest economies of the european union and the most powerful weapons manufacturers or nato member states.

thank you, mr. valentin, it was valentin nalyvaichenko, people's deputy of ukraine, former head of the security service of ukraine. friends, we are working live on the tv channel. as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are now watch us on youtube and on facebook , please like this video, subscribe to our pages and take part in our vote, today we ask you about this, do you see attempts to usurp power in ukraine, if you vote on youtube, there everything is quite simple, yes no, or your opinion, please write in the comments under the video, if you are sitting in front of the tv, pick up your phone and vote, if you see: signs or attempts to usurp power in ukraine, vote on 0800-211 -381, no 0800-21-382. let me remind you that all calls to these numbers are free, so we can see the intermediate results now, 87% of those who

watch us on tv believe that there is an attempt to usurp power, 13% do not see such usurpation of power. next, we will be in touch with viktor boberenko, political scientist, political... expert and expert of the analysis and policy bureau. mr. viktor, i congratulate you and thank you for joining our broadcast. good health, i haven't seen you for a long time, greetings to suma and sumy region. sir, mr. viktor, i will ask you right away, or i will ask you again, also a question that we we ask our viewers whether you see attempts to usurp power in ukraine. because based on klitschko's statements that he sees that ukraine is following an authoritarian path, do you see that there is some attempt to usurp power? well, not only that, i have been talking about the fact that we have such a world phenomenon,

when ukraine, being a de facto authoritarian state, is fighting for the free world. such a paradox, we are fighting for a free world, for freedom of the press, for free communities, for local self-government, for society not to tolerate corruption, and all this is reconciled in a country that does not meet these standards and criteria, and in fact we have an authoritarian country. and only the armed forces of ukraine and ukrainian society, which is fighting for a free civilized world. i repeat, there will be research, it will be a historical, well , a study by historians of this social

paradox, because it really is a paradox. mr. viktor, who, perhaps, do you know what can be compared to stalinska, well, in fact, a totalitarian. the country fought against nazism together with those who signed this freedom charter with roosevelt and churchill, and then with degol, yes, that is, it is something similar somewhere, and what allowed there, then for a long time, to say that we are strong, we are here together with the free world, so what, well, in this situation, i will say so that the ukrainians are waging a people's war, a big one, because it is a big people's war against the russian occupiers, and, of course , questions arise. about the central government and what the central government is doing, there are really a lot of questions here, because those who

are at the front, they probably deserve , more for the future, for a better future of ukraine, let's say so, and here in this context, i can't help but mention the month-long information marathon between zelenskyi and zaluzhnyi, or the office of the president against zaluzhnyi, i think you already saw today's... in one of the influential internet publications, which is called the war against politics, what is actually happening between zelskyi and zaluzhny, what is the purpose of this information marathon according to you, although it seems to lie on the surface, zaluzhny can become the president, although zaluzhny has never said in any way that he wants to go to politics, that he wants to be the president of ukraine, that he is going to run for office, have already appeared here in this article. ratings, there are closed ratings of who goes to the second round of the elections, before those elections, as far as heaven goes,

sorry, and here a lot of questions arise , is it even time to make a big mess, sorry, in the information field, and putting the head of the ssu in an uncomfortable position, forcing him to say something or justify something, when he is in charge of the army that is with russia, this is the case, you know, as for zaluzhny, they married me without me, but zaluzhny probably didn’t go there, he didn’t even think about those elections there either, well, he thinks about how to fight back under the blackmailer, how to step on the takmak, but, since there are some, these ratings, once there are some measurements, but miro... what about the office of the president, who does nothing, he, well, is not

like that dog, but measures, measures some, measures some, some these, ratings, and the ratings relentlessly say that, rating, well, to be sure, the love for zelensky is already less than the love for the hard worker, volodymyr oleksandrovich against... last year he got used to the fact that wherever he went, there was applause all around , all around, all around, he was adored, and he thinks that it is he who is adored, in fact ukraine is adored, but this is the first thing that zelsky tries on himself to ukraine, like louis 13, like that france is me, so is this one, ukraine is me, although. in fact, this is not the case at all, now we must understand very clearly that zelensky,

very addicted to applause, zelensky is a narcissist, and like every narcissist, he cannot understand that someone else can be, like that, for someone else maybe the sun shines, as for him, only he, and we have such a paradigm, when ukraine is like some kind of theater... of absurdity, where, uh, we are all in the hall, on the stage, uh, well, like in a soufflé booth, booths, a fair , then there is an orchestra that makes some sounds, there is a choir of ropes, conditionally there, with this, with the wives, koshev, who sing along somewhere there, somewhere there are some for sub-dances, somewhere there are some in secondary roles, but the main actor is e z zelenskyi, and he cannot even assume that someone else,

maybe, not even in the roles of second or third plan, in general, someone leaves the scene, only he, and this disease of his is a disease, narcissism is a disease, and this disease drags us all into the abyss, because here, here is the reason for all these attacks, it is clear that in the state... where, there is a narcissist, and favorites who have, well , have, or do not have access to the eyes, yes, they all, all of them are trying to uh, manage zelensky through... access to the ears, yes, say, you are the greatest, you are the best , and he says: no, it’s like, yakoto, light my mirror, tell me, yes, tell the whole truth, and here it is, light mirror, he says, well, light, mirror, this is sociological research, that you are not the light of all, the most beautiful anniversary of all, and he, so your division, and begins, as in that fairy tale by pushkin, and some, well, it is not he who believes, but his

already the aprichniks are starting some moves and releasing already in this case a bezugala for us, it is just a tool, it is a torpedo, as they say in political technology, they have released a torpedo, against the tyrant, but the reason is that it is just volodymyr oleksandrovich, the point is not in industrious, he is very equal to everyone, he can only be only him, no one else, if someone else appears. industrious, by the way, aristovych was written off somewhere somewhere, yes, because somewhere he was running along the front edge, somewhere, someone there thought that arestovich was a good man there, yes, he is equal to everyone who can join him, and this, it’s somewhere at school, maybe, well, we all encountered such

a situation at school, when this, a child’s pursuit... of social status, yes, when your social status is lower than something, yes, here is zelensky, and here is hardworking, he has more love there, and the best option is to raise his own social status, it will lower someone's status, and they release, release, see that she is like that, but look, but look, this is, well, what we are saying is trust in the hard-working, this is trust in the armed forces of ukraine, and that is , if, if we are talking about the fact that there are 42% or there is 40% of zelensky against 42% of zelenskyi, then it is, well, completely different levels of trust and bolenskyi evaluates both the president and his actions, 42%, well, if there is a second round, yes, as the online edition of ukranian pravda writes, and 40% of merit is

a rating of trust in the armed forces, so, well, conditionally saying, it corresponds with this, right , that is... you, as a political expert , what do you say, should these ratings be compiled and shown at all now, despite the fact that there is no election campaign, it will be soon, and these presidential elections too they will not be soon, but they are simply adding up various numbers that have no relevance, that is, it cannot be said that if there is a second round now, then they will vote for the brave man there, because this is the rating of the confidence of the armed forces of ukraine, and not personally there for the wonderful general , but still trust in society before zsu above, well, yes, you ca n't compare crimson color with crimson, yes, they are different things, then color, and this is cooked, yes, of course, not only as a polytechnologist, i will tell you that it

happens very often, that when we measure there, well, i trust so-and-so and so-and-so, but i will probably vote for a person with a lower degree of trust, even my personality, personally , if i say a certain degree there, there is a type, well, here i am, for example, i i trust very much, well, for example, the captain of the ukrainian national team, and my trust in him, well, in general, 100%, it’s not it means that i will vote for him in the next election, i will vote for some politician, yes, but in the meantime, in the meantime... uh, in the office of the president, everything is measured and so, and so, and so, and, somewhere, uh, they see that, uh, and trust, it is converted somewhere over time, well, as they say, there like, in political technology, a desired, desired politician, and

uh, zelensky himself started it throw into the masses. when he said that, well, you know how bad it is when these military people think for politics, they should be there, like, i wouldn't recommend the military to go into politics, oops, and i would not recommend artists and clowns to go into politics, because there are some historical precedents, yes, we understand that there is mayor kjavik, who was a successful political clown, and there is an artist reagan, who was successful in politics, but. ..' we know many, many military men who were successful administrators, there is caesar, pompey, napoleon, uh, yes, there, well, and then there, ending already in the 20th century, and so on, that is, in there are examples of us both bad and good, but in the military, as a rule, a good

soldier, a good administrator, again not always, that is , there are no universal examples here, yes there, but in the meantime, zelensky threw it in, and they are starting to evaluate it , now so that we understand how it turned out when they lost the office a lot. the president , again, let's repeat, the president's office, which manages both the verkhovna rada and the government of ukraine, well, in general , everything, that is, the only, real, institution, which, by the way, is not constitutional, but meanwhile, the president's office is trying there, like to steer, to build a policy in order to continue to receive and continue power, yes, but where they were wrong , they were wrong... we have professional gradations, and if we are journalists there, or we are military there, or we are volunteers, or we are someone,

we, well, for our, for our profession yes , we are a little worried there, and it turned out when the bezuga, which means the office of the president of ukraine, was attacked, and the armed forces of ukraine understand very clearly that it was not the bezuga that attacked, it was just... a torpedo was launched from the president's office, yes so the armed forces of ukraine assessed the attack on zelskyi by zelskyi and they begin, they begin to evaluate, and for whom the military will be, the military will be for their own, as one of mine told me, a classmate of mine, who is now a colonel of the zsu, said very well yermak, they understand very clearly there that the raiding of the office on the epaulettes, i just did some, well, i don’t want

to speak there, it’s straight hatred hatred, but let’s say, well, it’s not love for the president’s office on the part of the military, but the military will now come home and tell about this situation his own to families, friends, well, my friend, a colonel, came and told me about what the armed forces of ukraine are thinking now, so the office of the president made it worse with this blunt attack, now instead of lowering the rating of the meritorious officer, they lowered the world even more. thank you, mr. viktor, for the conversation, it was viktor boberenko, political expert, political technologist. friends, we are working live on tv channel, as well as on... on our youtube and facebook platforms, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and on facebook, please like this video, subscribe to our

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oleksiy, today we are asking our viewers whether they see signs of usurpation of power in ukraine, attempts to usurp power, and this is related to several facts that took place, and the interview that vitaliy klitschko gave to the german weekly spiegel, where he said that there are signs. authoritarianism and reacted in this way to the situation in ukraine. how do you assess the current situation , what can be said about ukraine, we are in a state of war, maybe this usurpation or concentration of power is necessary, is this concentration too great, are there already attempts at authoritarianism, when one person tries to rule, or a group of people on behalf of one person, begin to rule ukraine. unfortunately, we have absolutely clear self-critical tendencies in ukraine, this is a fact, there is no arguing with it

sense yes, wartime. martial law , they, one way or another, lead to a very serious concentration of power in the hands of the commander-in-chief, and this is normal, but the fact that, in fact, the cabinet of ministers, the verkhovna rada of ukraine has lost all subjectivity, and in fact all power in the country is in the hands of two people, zelenskyi and andriy yermak, this is definitely a fact and it is definitely a threat. by the way, i also have my comments in the same spiegel, i say basically the same thing, because it is a fact, it is pointless to argue with it, and unfortunately, these trends are intensifying, well, what can i say, there, if a sbu employee came to my apartment a week ago under the guise of repairing the internet and tried to install a listening device, i am a people's deputy of ukraine, but at the same time, what are our parts of our special services busy with, in fact, pressure, there

surveillance... of the opposition, this , this, i would contact the general prosecutor, of course everything, but these are absolute, absolutely blatant things, or this whole story with the non-release of parliamentarians abroad, which i personally encountered, the last high-profile case, in fact for the whole world, with poroshenko connected, there it is it's not a question of loving poroshenko or not loving poroshenko, the fifth president of ukraine and an acting people's deputy, well, i signed the order, revoked the signed order, disgraced the whole world, well , that's all... everyone is watching it, everyone is watching it, everyone they see this, and this, and this is a huge problem, the pressure on local self-government, chernihiv, rivne, well, we see it too, in fact, when the authorities try to seize here, well, everything that is possible, it is all very dangerous, and i will repeat, whether the state of war and wartime, in this there is a certain undermining, certainly there is, but the question is how to take advantage of it, when, for example, churchill, well

, the real churchill, who was also in may 1940, when he became prime minister with colossal power caused by wartime, but he himself with this power consciously, personally shared with the opposition in order to work together, have joint responsibility for the country and work, invited the leader of the opposition attlee to become his deputy, united the entire parliament, in israel after the attack of hamas in netanyahu, despite the fact that there just... on a huge scale hatred between politicians, but invited the opposition to the government, and they went to form a government of national unity, despite the fact that you and i understand that hamas does not pose such a danger to the existence of israel as russia poses to the existence of ukraine, so this was would be the right way, unfortunately, zelskyi is taking a completely different path, the establishment of absolutely such mutual power, well, or two persons, himself and andriy yermak, it is dangerous,

it is a problem, it is already noticed in the world, it will be reflected very fundamentally on in all aspects of support for ukraine, and our european integration, euro-atlantic integration , well, this is already a serious challenge, by the way, president zelenskyi says that the war with russia is now at a new stage, let’s listen to what zelenskyi said, in our . the phase of the war is a fact, the war is complicated , winter in general is a new phase of the war, or war, winter, it takes place not only on the front line and in the middle of the cities, due to the large number of use of drones by the enemy, due to the large number of missiles, including ballistics, etc., and therefore winter war, it is difficult, well, the winter war

is taking place, to paraphrase zelenskyi, not only on the front line, but also between the civilian and military leadership of ukraine. why, entering a new phase of the war, the office of the president entered into a war with the industrious. oh, this is a very painful topic, look, the country needs unity, as we just talked with you, unity between political forces is needed, and for this unity to exist, there must be some kind of step. an outstretched hand from the president, well , i can say for sure, he alone can do it, no one else can do it, he has everything fullness of power, i can say for sure that the majority of the opposition will responsibly withdraw everything, will withdraw and will work for the country, we also need the unity of the military and political leadership of ukraine, it is obvious that it has at least given a crack, and you know, i am very... .