difficult well, the winter war is taking place, to paraphrase zelensky, not only on the front line, but also between the civilian and military leadership of ukraine. why, entering a new phase of the war, did the office of the president enter into a war with the industrious? oh, this is a very painful topic, look, the country needs unity, as we just talked with you, we need unity between political forces to. there was unity, there must be some step and an outstretched hand from the president, well, i can say for sure, he alone can do it, no one else can do it maybe he has all the power, i can say for sure that the majority of the opposition is responsible, it will not withdraw everything, it will withdraw and will work for the country, we also need the unity of the military and political leadership of ukraine, it is obvious that it has at least given a crack, i know i really...

want to be careful in my comments, ah , i call on the president of ukraine, the supreme commander-in-chief and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces to find a common language, to come out with a common position, because it weakens us, both internally and externally, about this causes, about this is what the world is saying today, it raises questions, but this is another minus for us , there is no plus in this, this i can say for sure, so... whatever the reasons for all this are, but we have to, in the end, well two men, close the door, sit down, talk, go out and work, well, there is too much ahead of time to be able to because of emotion, we can lose so much that, well, god forbid, that's why i'm very careful, it's the responsibility of two people, they have to do it, and all these

recent statements of the office of the president, the reaction of the office the president on the article in the economist, when the deputy yurmak was released, to comment on it with some kind of claims to the industrious man, the statements of the people's deputies from the servant of the people, who are already thinking about who to replace the industrious man, well, that's just stupid, dangerous stupidity , and it definitely shouldn't be. mr. oleksiy, you meet with foreign diplomats and foreigners and talk about how they assess this situation, how it affects the perception that ukraine is united in its desire to defeat russia, that all, as you say, misunderstandings have been put aside, as it was from october 7, 23, when hamas attacked israel and the government of national unity was formed, it is clear that there is...

now here is a message about this memorandum that was signed somewhere in the carpathians, the leaders of the parliamentary factions and the leaders of the parliamentary parties, that there will be no elections until the end of the war, until our victory, and the elections will be six months after the end of martial law in ukraine, there are these steps, but in general, what is preventing everything this organism, which we call ukrainian politics, to be united , because what is happening shows that again someone is being divided between their own and someone else's, someone is being let out of parliamentary diplomacy, someone is not being allowed abroad, someone can go to the united states of america and convince senators and congressmen, to give aid to ukraine, and who is being stopped on ravaruska or somewhere in kraków, at our border points, why does it still exist in your opinion, and someone should be... after all, smarter in this

situation, look, well why is it all there, it's on it’s a pity, well, it’s zelenskyi, well, i’m not, not because there’s an opposition there, or i’m something, well, it’s just the president, well, without his team, there wouldn’t be all this shame with non-releases, without the team from irmak, no one would have come to install me listening devices in the apartment, and when they do this, well , it is somehow difficult with unity, well, agree, that's why there will be unity when the president invites and says: we are working, here is your section, here is your section, here is your section ahead, i want let's see who will refuse, well, show me a ukrainian politician who will say: no, well, that’s for sure, then zelenniaskyi will have the right, as the president, to come out and say , look, i extended my hand, but he said i won’t, well, then i think it will already be a political verdict and a sentence for such a politician, where no one will never do that, so... the responsibility here is one person,

the person who has all this power, controls all this power, and without his decision, well , absolutely nothing will happen, how about you, the first part of your question was, how about that react in the world? they react very badly to it, nothing good, well, nothing good, everyone sees it the unity of ukraine was a great basis for supporting ukraine, and when they see what is happening between political forces, when they see and read all these materials about the relationship between the political and military leadership, all this is extremely harmful for us, extremely , all this is just... i emphasize, i was already silent about right away you need not only the dignity of the word, there must be actions right away, we need a real fight against corruption, a real fight, and not anyone, we ask the whole world to help us, who will be to help the country where the money can go, well, you and i are smart and mature

people, this is a huge pass to all our enemies, every such scandal, every such situation, and that is why we simply need to put an end to it, there really should be zero tolerance for corruption, there must be a real fight against it, realistically, not in words, and the heads of those close to you should fly if they are guilty of this, and then the world will believe, otherwise everything is very difficult ahead of us, really everything is very difficult ahead of us , and therefore to us, now you know, we need to somehow come to our senses, shake ourselves off, unite, understand and remember that we have much more in common than what unites us, and together achieve a result, gritting our teeth, and then figure everything out, if we do not do this, but the situation will unfortunately only worsen, we, mr. oleksiy, witnessed how on friday petro poroshenko, the leader of your political party, the fifth

president of ukraine, was not released abroad, then with "there was some explanation from the sbu that he wanted to meet viktor orban there and to discuss something there, and russian propaganda wanted to use it, well , here is the explanation that the leader of a political force, one of the political forces in ukraine, the fifth president of ukraine, wanted to meet with the current prime minister of a european country that is part of the european union, and with which we, and nato, and we will have to negotiate with them in principle, because it will depend on orbán whether we will go to the european union or not, and to nato, whether we will go or not let's say 50 billion euros... what kind of loan or help that the european union promises us, too depends on orban, because orban has 900 million euros, it seems, if i 'm not mistaken, is waiting, and the question is whether this explanation is enough, that poroshenko

wanted to meet with the country's leader, we don't like him orban, we understand , that he probably has some contact with putin there, but he runs the country. his political power was elected to the parliament, the parliament appointed him as prime minister, and what was the actual claim in this situation, you understood or not, well, somewhere, somewhere you can understand, it's some complete absurdity, well first of all, let’s take this one, if there are meetings, now there are such means of communication, you can meet with anyone via zoom, secondly, well, okay, poroshenko met with orban, they speak russian... propaganda will use it like anything , that someone, the fifth president of ukraine, met with the current prime minister of hungary, and further, zelenskyi met with orban at meetings of european institutions several times and spoke with him, so and so and what is the claim here, well really, well that absurd,

well, we need to communicate, we need to find something in common language, even with orbán i don't like orbán, i speak directly about orbán and what i think in the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe, but what's the difference? we will have to talk to him, we will have to cooperate with him in some way, and in general, well, look, this is where we live at all, and this is that the kgb, the ussr, already decide with whom the parliamentarian meets or not, well, this is wildness for of the whole world, well, well, how to explain here, come on, it’s not for nothing, we know, as usual, we just poured water on the mill of russia and orban, but it already came out, and hungary said, look, all this history shows that ukraine is not ready to be a european country. a european can have the right, he has the right to meet with anyone, well, this is obvious, if he behaved incorrectly somewhere, well, then he will have political responsibility, people will no longer elect him, that's the end of it, and how can the special services sit and say, this

a deputy can meet with someone, and that's why you can't , and with this you can, and with that you can't, yes and that, and well, then what about the deputy, who, well, what kind of special services employee is this? or what or who is popular unfortunately, the deputy has lost contact, we can't hear you, mr. oleksiy, you can see. there are problems with the connection, dear tv viewers, thank you oleksiy honcharenko for the conversation, it was oleksiy honcharenko, people's deputy of ukraine. friends, we are working live on tv channel uso, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. during the program, we conduct a survey, we ask you whether you see attempts to usurp power in ukraine. so, at this moment, more than 1,300 people have already voted, 90% believe that there is an attempt to usurp power in ukraine, 10 no, this survey of those who are currently watching our

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, the verdict program continues, my name is serhiy rudenko, i congratulate everyone once again and wish everyone good health, today in the program: elections only after the war, all political forces of the parliament signed a memorandum, can this be considered a key to unity, from avdiivka to volhynia, significantly strengthens the fortification, what does this mean and what to expect? mobilization in ukraine, how many more people the armed forces need and what changes are being prepared in the council. during today's broadcast, we are conducting a survey, friends, today we ask you about this , do you see attempts to usurp power in ukraine, yes no, please vote on youtube using the buttons yes, no, everything is quite simple, or write your comments under this video if you are sitting in front of the tv , pick up the phone and vote 0.800

2011-381 if you see signs of a usurpation attempt. the authorities, if you do not see attempts to usurp the authority, vote on the number 0800, 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up about this vote, what are we asking at all, why did we start asking you about it, dear tv viewers, the magazine spiegel published an article about the situation in ukraine, the german weekly took comments. the mayor of kyiv, vitaliy klitschko , and the mayor of the capital of ukraine say that there are signs that an autocracy is forming in ukraine, that is, the power of one person or some group of people who are trying to take all the power into their hands, although we

we understand that after 2019, the year of the president. elections and parliamentary elections, when a monomajority was formed in the verkhovna rada, this monomajority appointed its government, in fact there is a monomajority in ukraine, with the beginning of the great war, from february 24 , 2022, when martial law was introduced, it is clear that the entire concentration of power was concentrated in the hands of the supreme commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi. now, when a certain amount of time has passed, the representatives of local self-government bodies have questions about volodymyr zelenskyi and volodymyr zelenskyi, or the team volodymyr zelenskyi , to the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine , valery zaluzhnyi, conversations began about the fact that the current government is trying to take

on a little more than it needs, and that in what conditions, in the current situation, it is very important to preserve unity, because our unity - this is the key to victory over russia, only in unity we can defeat putin and the russian occupiers. people's deputies of ukraine, volodymyr vyatrovych from european solidarity, are guests of the verdict today, mr. volodymyr, i congratulate you and i am glad to see you and hear. good evening. vitaly bezgin, people's deputy of ukraine from the servant of the people. mr. vitaly, i am glad to see you and thank you for joining our broadcast, and we are waiting for the inclusion of solomiya bobrovska, a people's deputy of ukraine from the voice party. well, gentlemen, since we have already started asking our tv viewers whether they see signs

or attempts of usurpation of power, i will also ask you, since you are people's deputies of ukraine. know for sure, or have more information about us than our viewers, but once again, we ask this question solely because it has now begun to be publicly discussed in the world and european press, in particular, vitaliy klitschko stated in spiegel that there is a threat of autocracy in ukraine. let's start with mr. volodymyr, mr. volodymyr, i have the floor. well, unfortunately, such threats in... the current government existed even before the start of a full-scale war, and it is impossible to say that a full-scale war completely eliminated them, moreover, we can see that even at times the circumstances of a full-scale war during these one and a half years give some certainty for an additional temptation for some of the representatives of the authorities to take advantage of that in order to concentrate power even more tightly in their hands,

we are talking about the situation in the media in particular, we are talking about a single marathon, we are talking about those. the very foreign business trips, which are usually rather alarming bells, about the fact that, unfortunately, everything is not so good with democracy in ukraine. mr. vitaly, what do you say about this, you are a representative of a monopoly and it is probably more difficult for you to talk about whether there is an autocracy or attempts to usurp power in ukraine or not, but that's all anyway, i think, mr. serhiu, that now we are on your channel, live, we have an opportunity to actually discuss. on this and with you and with the channel, which behaves absolutely democratically and has democratic rhetoric with mr. volodymyr, whom i respect, with whom in some issues are absolute ideological... allies in some opponents is a sign that ukraine is definitely democratic , and not an autocratic country, so i think that such criticisms of mr. kyiv city mayor are

unfounded political criticisms, i do not i think that he acted wisely by voicing such things, especially at the international level, because we must understand that ukraine , while winning this war, must not lose itself internally, and yet, when we defend democracy, the european way life, probably, to preserve democratic institutions inside, although it is clear that any state of war, some processes centralize, this is not inevitable. it is great that we are discussing this on the air of the tv channel, it is a pity, it is true, that we are not in t2, from where we were kicked out in the spring of 22, but, as they say, on galicia is less so, solomiya bobrovska joins our broadcast, people 's deputy of ukraine from the voice, ms. solomiya, i congratulate you and i am glad that you are with... with us today, glory to ukraine, congratulations, glory to the heroes, with vitaly bezgin and volodymyr in vetrovych, we already talked about the survey, or rather , i received answers to our survey, which we

are conducting today, among our tv viewers, asking them whether they see attempts to usurp power in ukraine, or do you see such attempts? i see some very bad trends can lead to such unpleasant things for ukraine, and usually after. after such already red beacons, things are really happening in ukraine that do not become uncontrollable, neither by the president, nor by those who are trying to build a vertical, but in fact, what i don’t like the most is political interference by the military high command, so i am completely against it categorically and absolutely clearly understand that if you can silence the military, you can silence certain people's deputies, you can silence the families of prisoners of war. or to the families of the victims, you can deal with all of this, but there are, for example, very strange people and members of parliament, whose mouths cannot be closed, and probably, it seems to me, this is

the nature, er, which is not explained by anything , for me it is currently more threatening, threatening and incomprehensible, and absolutely strange behavior that cannot be explained, and of course, i cannot touch on the topic of graduation abroad and how the opzzzh can go abroad for meetings, in particular with the pro-government orbanov deputies and be absent 27 days out of 365 in ukraine, i want to remind you, i want to remind you that the government cannot direct the verkhovna rada and the parliament regarding travel abroad, whether it will be a business trip or a personal trip. accordingly, such things, this too, signal a certain not good trend, which can actually lead to usurpation. thank you, mrs. solomia, here's the nickname. in this interview, he said that at the beginning of the great war, since february 24, 2022, he never once spoke to president zelensky and did not have any

contacts, mr. vitaly, i know that you are quite you actively communicate with representatives of different regions, and local self-government is , in principle, your topic, and you clearly understand what is happening locally, why in your opinion, the same klitschko complains that...' representatives of local self-government do not are in contact or the president is not in contact with them and how is this contact happening now, why in principle the central government remains central, the local self-government itself remains with its own problems and with what it has at its level? well , the first thing to say here is that it's normal, isn't it? local self-government somewhere solves the problem of the basic level, the central government should focus on its problems. regarding communication between individual representatives of self-government and the president, well, let's face it, the president is the supreme commander during a full-scale war, if we are talking

about the president's team, we have, because we have monopolies, we have a profile parliamentary committee that deals with local self-government, we have a relevant ministry with an entire vice prime minister, and we directly have a deputy head of the office president, who is responsible for regional policy, i think that if we speak directly... about the office of the president as an institution, then with the arrival of oleksiy kulebo, there are no problems in communication between local self-government and this branch of government, as regards theses of vitaliy klitschko, i think it is necessary to separate the individual political positions of the kyiv city mayor from the position of the entire local self-government. actually, before our event today, our broadcast today, we had an event, in particular with european partners, where there were representatives of all local self-government associations, at which it was announced in particular that today vitaliy klitschko announced to our european colleagues that we have 128 heads of communities removed from their positions,

which is an absolute lie and it is impossible to find another word i don't know why he makes all the political remarks, but i think that it definitely does not contribute to unity, which is one of the topics of today's broadcast and is a sure guarantee, including the success of ukraine, and despite the fact that we have problems in some specific things, and of course, due to budget problems, we sometimes have to look for difficult compromises with local self-government, i, as a person who personally traveled through six regions for two weeks from kherson to lviv region and khmelnytsky region, i do not see a critical tension that would could exist, all the more so in the state of current problems, in particular budgetary problems, which exist in ukraine as a result of russia's full-scale attack on us, so i am clear to myself, including the person who is responsible for decentralization in the ruling team, from the borderline position of vitaliy klychka , the mayor of kyiv, from the position of local self-government in ukraine, although i admit that there are cases

that i also do not like, thank you, mr. vitaliy, mr. volodymyr, please, if possible, if possible , i really would not like us to preempt, to focus exclusively on kyiv, i will give another example, an example that i know well, due to the fact that i know the person in question well, so i will give the example of chernigov, it is about acting mayor oleksandr lomak, whom i know well an activist of the orange revolution of 2004, an activist of the revolution, dignity, and it is obvious that he became acting mayor. precisely because, in a very strange and far from legal way , the city manager was removed from the leadership of the city, then adventures began, which consisted in the fact that the central government tried in every possible way to create in the city , to stop the activities of local self-government, local government, to create a military administration, to take over full authority from the local government, the local council actually to the military administration, for for this, searches took place, for this

the deputies of the same oleksandr lomako were repeatedly searched, criminal cases were opened, and this is definitely not something that resembles any kind of cooperation or attempts to cooperate with local self-government and the central government, i remind you that the language it is actually about the city that heroically defended itself last year from the russian invaders, from the russian aggressors who tried to seize this place, it is about those people, directly, like oleksandr... mamako, who participated in the defense of this city, for about a year now they have been trying to repel attacks precisely from kyiv, from the central central government, which is trying, in principle , to simply break the local self-government there in a manual mode, there are no reasons, no grounds for liquidation, suspension there, actions there is no local government, except for the desire, the power to once again establish its control over this specific body of local self-government,

well, here i arise. i can have a reply right away, please look, i'm telling me i don't like the chernihiv case, but let's have this kind of power, power, sir , the mayor of chernihiv was removed by the court, yes, not because of some general power there , through the court, although i don't understand, this is a court decision, i'm honest about it, now regarding the taking away of powers from local self-government bodies in chernihiv, it did not happen, because in order for this to happen, you and i... perfectly understand that the parliament must make the appropriate decision, only the verkhovna rada has the authority to take away the power, has the opportunity to take authority from the local council and hand it over to the military administration, you and i did not do this, why did this arise and of course, sir, mr. volodymyr, do not interrupt, why such a rule appeared in our legislation, because in march of the 22nd year, when we changed the legislation on local self-government during

martial law, we, including myself personally, personally with your colleague from the fraction artur garasov, wrote the norm that the transfer of powers of non-decision to the parliament is impossible, it was joint, by the way, then the work of the servant of the people and european solidarity, therefore, despite the presence of a court decision and a rather complex and strange case, which definitely does not brighten the history of local self-government, i would ask that we do not generalize things and do not say that some kind of general power is bad, and there is a judicial precedent, bad jurisprudence, and i don't like it either, but nevertheless, it does not mean about criticality, usurpation or anything like that, thank you, well, but there are a lot of questions, not only about the central local government, but we are now watching major conflict, mrs. solomiya said that she does not like what is happening around the armed forces of ukraine and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, today we saw in one of the central...