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self-government during martial law, we , including myself personally, personally with your colleague from the fraction artur garasov, wrote the norm that the transfer of powers without a decision of the parliament is impossible, it was a joint, by the way, then the work of the people and the servants of european solidarity , therefore, despite the existence of a court decision and a rather complex and strange case, which definitely does not brighten the history of local self-government, i would ask that we do not generalize things and say that some kind of general government is bad, yes it is judicial precedent, bad jurisprudence and i don't like this case either, but nevertheless it does not mean criticality, usurpation or any such thing. thank you, well, but there are a lot of questions, not only about the central local government, we are currently observing a big conflict, ms. solomiya said that she does not like what is happening around the armed forces of ukraine and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, today we saw in one of the central ukrainian newspapers, ukrainian pravda,
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published a long text, again about this conflict, although they say there is no conflict between zelenskyi and zaluzhny, but there is a conflict between zelenskyi's team and valery zaluzhny, judging by everything, well, from what is written in ukrainian pravda, there are some political ratings that zaluzhny can win in the second round zelenskyi with 40% or there to get closer to zelenskyi, who may have 42%, that is, it is not at all clear why they are talking about elections now, it is not clear why someone is rated, it is not clear , as a result, when these elections will be held, and why, and why generally useful here, and here industrious who shows no political ambitions who doesn't say he wants to be president who doesn't have a political party who is in the military he has a. whose task
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is to defeat russia, mrs. solomi , why do you think it is constantly being torpedoed, that is, we know that there are representatives of the servant of the people, such political torpedoes who torpedo the industrious, well, every day, here i am watching one people's deputy, every day she torpedoes the head of the armed forces of ukraine, well, i want to say that, listen, you have a supreme commander, well already tell the supreme commander-in-chief if they are not satisfied, the industrious one is not satisfied, then the supreme commander must make a decision, if he is satisfied with the industrious one, then say publicly that i am satisfied with the industrious one, we do not need to split, because it is someone over there who arranges the split, ms. solomi, look, actually, it just seems to me that next year, despite all assurances, i don't know the president, the president's office, deputies and so on, we will still see some kind of election process, i want to be wrong about this. but in a different, different way
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the reasons for such behavior, the president's entourage, and i am particularly commenting here on my colleague, who allows herself to speak, and the country is shaking from this for the second week, and many questions from international journalists concern precisely these, her behavior in relation to the central committee, and therefore , it is perceived not only by her behavior, but also by the behavior of people's deputies or the president's entourage, as an attack on the commander-in-chief, and since in the last week or two , for some reason, we see mentions of the trust rating in the president and in the commander-in-chief rating, which are not published on the rating website, but which talk about the second first round there, but frankly, knowing what the situation is at the front today, with what intensity the battles are going on in all areas of the front of the front, it just starts to annoy me to the point of impossibility , because
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there is a place for such chatter, conversations, articles and discussions, but for some reason there is no place for the president to come out together with the team in particular to say that listen, calm down, we are working, our task is victory, we are focused on kupinsky, bahamud, marinsk, avdiivsk cinema , the left bank of kherson, and there we will shake hands and calm the society, this would be the right move, in my opinion, if we have the opportunity to give advice to the president from the society, people also wanted to see this, not only the people themselves, but and the armed forces themselves, because their heads are completely filled with war, how to survive, survive the winter, at a time when all the energy of the top management is spent on some absolutely incomprehensible confrontations, i will tell you more that good relations, sometimes even outside, when you say that there , tell them not to worry, and it often leads to resignation, and because knowing the situation there, special operations forces.
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it was an absolutely adequate relationship between the president and the commander, the smaller and the rate was happening behind the back of his committee and behind the backs of all other colleagues, commanders who simply did not understand how to perceive this... such a resignation behind their backs, respectively, and this is actually me too i consider the intervention of the military leadership to be a direct political intervention, in turn influence on the front, because the troops of the military can be demoralized until a new person takes office and it all gets complicated, complicated, especially the directions that the forces are taking there, they are quite specific, accordingly, even today's article of the post, and, today's ours in the ukrainian truth, that's all... they heat up the degree and from and from and so high, and well, we clearly see, firstly, again, i want to emphasize the numbers, secondly, i want to remind you that if someone lives by elections, then i believe that these are people who simply do not have the right then to look people in the eye and
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call yourself someone else, it will simply be a deep, huge mistake, this is the first and second, i will also allow myself to comment on your previous question, and about the military administration. and about the bodies of local self-government, i want to remind you that in fact, on the 20th month of the war , military administrations are still being created, very often it is difficult to justify why they are created, in particular, for example, we are talking about physical cities, where there are, for example, nuclear power plant is happy, but where is not, if not i am wrong, it is in varysh, or for some reason there is no military administration in the city of mariupol, no one can explain it, and i want to remind you about the distribution of the extreme pdf of the military, between the ministry of finance and the procurement of drones, where the person who was supposed to be behind was put in sizo, which came out in a day for uah 45 million, if i'm not mistaken, pledges, that is, you see, everything passes by here, and it seems that everything is clear, but how does it happen, what to do with it then, how to correct these mistakes, that's a huge question, so that we rush forward, we do not want to seek compromises, i so dear, they are painful compromises, but it is not an option to take 90% of the local budgets, and
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at the same time to push the government for 20 months and not work, what funds can be used for, what funds cannot be used for, so it seems to me that it is time to change the government . or completely different, since the dynamics of the country have changed, the dynamics of the life of the regions have changed, a completely new, radically different approach to this is to look for and admit mistakes , there is nothing wrong with this, but to talk about them, but not to hide behind a screen and not to aim at this public malice and turn everyone against everyone, because the nickname of the statement was quite unpleasant, it was already a war of all camps among themselves against everyone, and this war politically, parliamentarians or city mayors did not start this war on... it must be said frankly that it started with the president, starting with which they began to destabilize society from the magazine, and then it went and went rolling on history, and the business trip is another, it doesn’t matter who it was, it could have been applied to anyone, but such approaches, they are wrong, not
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irrelevant and generally inadequate, it is self-inflicted in the leg, i think, thank you, thank you ms. solomia, mr. vitaly, what prevents your political forces from uniting and creating a coalition of unity, i don't know whether the government of unity, it is quite actively discussed , national unity has been discussed, at least in the last few months, right next to you now on the tv screen, well, in the parliament, representatives of various political forces, and journalists, and all of us, and the military , are united by one goal: to defeat russia. why, why do these political jealousies or, i don't know how to call it correctly, political jealousies constantly arise, apparently why, why is it constantly being spewed out, why
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can't it be done as they do in the same israel, when all political misunderstandings are put aside at the moment when for... danger to the country, thank you so much, although i think that actually this question should not have been addressed to me, but to everyone, i will explain why, despite the fact that i represent the party in power, when we talk about any points of tension, and i agree in many things with what ms. solomia expressed , which really has the interest of statehood and actually some kind of full one reconciliation and consolidation to dominate, now answering the question of what is missing now, it is without regard to political affiliation, simply by its internal reflection, you know, when in particular the parliament and all branches of government and even all political parties were united and acted in unison, this it was around the end of february, march, well, maybe even april 2022, because when
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the russian tanks were standing directly around kyiv and were cowering like a monster on the territory of bucha boredyanka, then even at everyone’s risk there was a question of survival, then there were no political existed, regarding whether there is now politics in the ukrainian political system, unfortunately, there is why we lack the wisdom to dismiss some political things to a different plan, well, surely this is a question that everyone, every politician, of every political party should answer directly inside yourself , why not this wisdom may be lacking, here it is worth noting that indeed, when it comes to some issues related to the rules for providing the armed forces or our european integration, there is synergy, as for other points, as a rule, so some incomprehensible things really arise, i, as one of the 400 or two representatives of the parliament
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, of course, would like the parliament to work more slowly, but in many issues we would manage to find a consensus, i believe that this would be normal , now i will allow myself to respond to the previous speaker, about a few more specific things, first of all, i also believe that the biggest internal threat now exists, which is to get some kind of, well, not an escalation, increased tension between by the military and military-political leadership, this is what is blowing up from every iron, it is very bad, of course, that the russian federation is also inspired by this, of course, certain regular publications of a separate people's deputy, who, by the way, a month or two ago i also went to the posts of our colleagues with seven-month-old children and urged them to send these children to the front, so it definitely does not add up. reason and restraint of conduct, so i hope that , after all, as we gather at these
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moments, we will be able to avoid precisely political discord, well, at the end, i will still answer one more point of ms. solomiye, since i am always in the context of local self-government issues, in mariupol and melitopol, ms. solomiye, there are no military administrations, because this is an agreed position, in particular with international donors, so that in these cities, especially in mariupol, there is a huge... of displaced persons and the introduction of a military administration actually canceled the possibility of attracting international donations to support these peposhniks, and as for this community on on the territory of which the khmelnytsky nuclear power plant is located, i am asking this question because the representative of the security and defense committee should address it to the representatives of the general staff, thank you. thank you, mr. volodymyr, we will hear, yes, please. eh, i absolutely agree with vitaliy that actually such a sincere feeling of unity in the parliament was precisely
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at the end of february, march, a little bit of april, when the threat was very close to kyiv, that is, indeed, the threat promotes unity, unfortunately, further, when the threat left when even there were hopes for a possible quick victory, there was a desire of the authorities, including the president, to monopolize this probable future victory, so it is obvious that there was no longer any talk of any unity on the creation of a government of national unity. now the situation has unfortunately become worse again, now the situation is now the belief that victory will happen in the near future, in the next few months, is obviously going away due to the rational information that we are getting, so now i am sure, the best opportunity would really be for the president of the country, who is supposed to represent this unity, to really announce the creation of a government of national unity, then he would really show himself as a national leader, not a party leader, as a person who understands that he is leading the state in a very difficult
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situation and takes it upon himself responsibility for the fate of this country, unfortunately, this is not happening yet, unfortunately, on the contrary, the discussions that are started at least from the environment of the president, because for her to talk about mrs. maryana bezuglu, during her four years of work in the parliament, the only thing what exactly i can say about her that she was always a loyal soldier of the president's office, always did that. what was needed for the office of the president, so now, instead of talking about some kind of unity, it is necessary to take steps aimed at this unity, and i am sure that precisely, the concept of a government of national unity would be the nullification of all those unnecessary contradictions, preparations for some kind of political elections, contradictions between the military and politicians, which are really seriously weakening us now, thank you, mr. volodymyr, ladies and gentlemen, after... a short break, we will return to the studio, this is what i say to our viewers and our
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you see attempts to usurp power in ukraine, yes, no, if so, then 0.800. 11381 by phone no 0800 2011-382 all calls are for you these numbers are free now let's look at the interim results of this survey 91% see attempts to usurp power in ukraine 9% no, well, that is, a sufficiently large sample, 2,200 viewers took part in the survey at this moment, 91% say that they see attempts to usurp power. ms. solomiya, bobrovskaya, i am appealing to you, please tell me what, what these results actually indicate, that, well, no, not everyone can watch spresso tv channels, if we are talking about an attempt to usurp power , and as a result we
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we get the following result, 91%. why, why viewers, why citizens, still... still, they are wary of what is happening in ukraine, and obviously this figure is 91%, i look and there is a broadcast on our youtube channel, also more than 90% of people voted , that there is an attempt , a usurpation of power, how to explain it, look, it just seems to me that the zspresso tv channel is watched by a certain segment of people who either did not watch or were tired of watching the single news marathon, and understands, it seems to me, that even supporters of the single marathon , when was that effectively in march, and when the situation and dynamics were completely different. each of us and it was all united, he was so detached from life that a person, whether it was in the village, whether it was a teacher, whether it was a doctor, whether it was a business person, it was just a complete total
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detachment from real life, and this failure is quite palpable, ask anyone on the street who watches or who does not watch television at all, so the segment that watches espresso obviously, obviously has a position and understands what is happening on at work, at work, the tax office comes, which came back with inspections, which just rips off three skins from the business, which tries to work in white, and then the tsc comes to you, which takes away people who do not follow the plan, and other businesses may crumble somehow, whether to be reserved and not be given, people will be given, and for others , the question is, where is the local government looking, which laid the cobblestones there and so on, and someone is not satisfied with corruption at the highest level, and someone, and someone, someone is simply clogged with thoughts or will return from home, from those who serve in the family, because the military unit does not communicate with them and there is no patronage service as such with there or with work from families,
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families, in case of death or loss or there or injury e- er, close, so the questions will be more than and too much, accordingly, that is why there are such answers, because people want to communicate and see the president, including the government, including their deputies, and even deputies who espresso is the deputies who work in their constituencies, work with the voters, and those who have never left or are the top, i don’t know, closed off from another caste, are represented, and to siper thinks that what kind of people are these like sheep who will go and do what is needed, or, for example, yuriy boyko, who i'm sorry, on february 24 he stood with us at a press conference or something, when we voted for martial law, but a few days later he gave an interview to solovya. and talked about what is going on here and there, what is happening here in ukraine, how it all speaks of a civil war, people are up to the eaves in the parliament, so they trust, thank you, mrs. solomia
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, president zelenskyi made a rather important statement last week, and now we are waiting for how this statement will actually be implemented, it is about the construction of fortifications in ukraine, it is winter now, it is clear that it will be quite difficult to build these fortifications, but that's the solution. i understand that it has already been adopted, and unfortunately this decision was not adopted two years ago, when our western partners warned and talked about the need to dig trenches in the south, when the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine, dmytro kuleba was on a visit to the united states of america, but, well , no matter what, there is such a decision and it has already been announced that these fortifications will be built in the regions, in different regions, mr. vitaly, that here's what they say in the places , in the regions, since i know that you now travel quite often to different regions, how do
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the local authorities react to this, will they be involved in this, or is it only the agency for the reconstruction of ukraine headed by mustafa nayem and with private funds that will be invested there, that is, do you know how this one is this is the great fortification of ukraine, how will it... take place, well, let’s say, in the context of those regions where fortification was allowed due to the fact that the security situation, nevertheless, there is a certain border threat there, the construction of fortifications, and it continued and directly of this presidential announcement, and it continued in close, full cooperation between representatives of local self-government, military administrations, directly border guards and military personnel, what role does the agency play in this process, in addition to beautiful slides mr. nayem, i don't know, so i'm not ready to say what she does in this context, i think that it's precisely the tight and
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normal effective cooperation between the central government and the local government, hopefully, including through the financial help of international partners, because we understand that the deep level of our material dependence on the funds of the european union, the united states and other partners will allow us to strengthen... precisely the fortification line directly in those regions where it currently does not look like this strong, i apologize for the taftology of the outpost , as in some areas, i will not name specific areas and areas, i think for some rational security reasons, nevertheless, in some areas it has really been quite a long time, everything is quite developed and not bad, i think that the enemy will definitely not pass there, at least in a simple way, well, in principle , facing such large- scale, unfortunately, we were fined in the zaporizhzhia direction, tell me, mr. volodymyr, i am turning to volodymyravych,
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can this big one be okay? fication of ukraine turn into a big construction, when there will be much more claims than we will receive, that is, claims about the use of money, or about what is being built, where it is being built, how it is being built, and you had experience defending kyiv from the russian invaders, you were in tro and were in the hottest directions, where the russians actually tried to enter, but there were no... fortifications there at that time, or the presence of these fortifications, whether they were there, how it would affect the course of hostilities around the capital in february and the months of march, well, i am sure that if there were any fortifications in the north of kyiv region, it is obvious that the russian troops were not there, because here i am, where i am speaking to you now, i am speaking from vorzel, where the russians entered
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already on february 25, where they...then entered bucha, where they entrenched themselves with buchi, where we then very hard knocked them out of buchi, i will remind you that even in kyiv on february 24, 25, the first attempts to build some fortifications were very funny, that is, they built people with something, it rather resembled the maidan than resembled a knife what should have happened, only somewhere on the third or fourth day, in the end , some concrete overlaps, roadblocks began to appear, that is, we actually, at least here in the kyiv region... in kyiv, let's be honest, were completely unprepared for this attack from the north, and this was one of the reasons why the russians came so quickly almost to kyiv, as for whether there will be any abuses in the current constructions, well, here it seems to me that there should already be a colossal role of both society and the media, so that god it didn't happen, we all did we perfectly understand how important it is, we all perfectly understand that this is a matter
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of people's lives, again, if there were strong fortifications built here in the kyiv region, it is certain that the number of people killed in the surrounding settlements would probably not be so large , so i really hope that it will not come to the point that someone will try to make money from such things, as for the fact that it is only now, of course, it is better late than never, someone can say that it is now very difficult in such a way it's time to build, but i'll remind you that it's raining... last year, precisely in december, january, february , those fortifications were built in the south, which, in fact, largely restrained the effectiveness of our counteroffensive in the south. thank you, mr. volodymyr, ms. solomiya, what do you have to say about this, whether or not we can in a very short time make up for what, in principle, probably, well, it should have been there and built not only from 2022 , but probably even earlier, we still had
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to prepare for a big war with russia, because one way or another, well, it was simply inevitable, you you know, i am quite categorical in this matter, because i also do not like the story with the way the certification facilities were presented by the president or his advisers, i do not know who did not tell him this, for two years, but it was done, why, categorically, because now we have december of the 23rd year, which means... that we have 20 months of full-scale invasion and indeed in the regions where the heads of the regional military administrations, or the commanders of their groups, or tactical sectors, they actually have to were affected by this to do, and for today in the end, from what i know, there are almost all regions with the northern border, but we have them, whether belarusians or muscovites, we have them to varying degrees.
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i really do not like the situation in chernihiv oblast and sumy oblast, i will say this publicly, because in the russian media, there is a lot to find in telegram channels, how russian subversive groups feel, how they work, how many of our border guards and officers of the armed forces are there, or servicemen of the armed forces, shoot, kill, enter and are working, and we need to talk about it, and we need to pay attention, for example, to chernihiv oblast, sumy oblast. appeal and talk about it loudly, i understand that we will constantly lack forces and means, human forces, first of all, but nevertheless, let muscovites roam here like at home, if such things happen, then we need to work and to close those gaps where they walk or drive cars, and not different and civilian, and not military, this is not a technique, thank you, when we talk about two seconds, when we are talking about the front.

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