and we need to change the direction of the main actions, and there to hold the defense, which concerns the general troops on its right bank of the dnieper, which occupied a small bridgehead opposite kherson, but certainly, this would be a promising place, and it would be necessary to increase efforts there for that , in order to penetrate deeper into the enemy's defense, and thus try to break it, the southern left. flank, here on the left, in connection with this, i want to say, in general, the situation in my opinion is one of balance, balance, both from their side and from ours there is no side, there are no such actions, military actions , which would say that one side overpowers the other, although on the part of the russians, at the expense of their perseverance and the sacrifices they make... at the front, throwing people under, well,

hundreds of people , they die, up to a thousand, from 600, 700 to 900 foreheads, soldiers and officers every day, these are very big losses, that's why they will still try more to show that they are still more active than us, ugh, well in general, i want to tell you that i have high hopes for our top team, the command, they will still work out , even if it is a small one, but some kind of plan, they will find a crack, cracks, let's say, in their defense, and they will deliver a serious blow, such that it is at least at the operational tactical level, well somewhere in unexpected places, yes, in unexpected places, you know, 1000 km of the front, and we are fighting in five points, nodes, takman, yes, then

maryenka, then avdiyivka, then bakhmut, then rabotin, well, there was also a little bit on the right bank of the dnieper, that's all, well, mr. ivan, let's go to oh, to yours thoughts, we will come back, after the commercials, and now we will just be joined by the zadviivka, maksym morozov, officer of the legion of freedom, major of the ministry of internal affairs, and just talk specifically about avdiivka a little, especially since the situation, in fact, even the fact that you described, she, well, this, this is a confirmation of the words of zaluzhnyi, regarding the fact that we see the actions of the enemy, the enemy sees our actions, therefore, there is a limited opportunity to apply the technique, instead, we have to work in all assault groups, which also, well, now in given, well, it is actually destroyed under the addition

very large forces of the russians precisely because they are trying to storm with these constant assault groups, so can maxim morozov join us, that here, oh, congratulations, mr. maxim, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, mr. maxim, well, we know that in in principle , this is the most important thing now, as if such fierce battles are going on for the walls of the village of stepove, that is, if we are talking about the whole... this area around avdiyivka, but it seems that the russians have not fixed it there on one side, on the other, which is also there such that it is possible to knock out the russians from some positions as well, but that's for now yesterday there was such information, what can you tell us today, well, of course, from what is possible, well, the khutiv steppes, it remains one of such points of collision. but there are such points

near khutyer keramik, and again on the southern part of this front, near the northern one, there are also constant attempts by muscovites to seize these settlements, attacks are daily, massive, in terms of the number of muscovites thrown into the attacks and killed there, the numbers are really impressive, it's their choice, they storm the audience. a huge amount of infantry, it turns into such a lava-like death of these muscovites , but this is again why they are doing it, this is a question for them, again, they have no choice, at least it seems so, because if they refuse to go to storm action, their they just shoot in front of the formation for a show , so they hope that if they attack the defensive lines of the ukrainian forces, and manage

to capture them there, survive, maybe stay alive and hold out there in case of something, maybe surrender to the enemy, where such forces come from, it is quite understandable. in moskalna now there is a huge mobilization budget and they use it to the full 1500%. and one of these reserves is of course prisoners, these are prisons, you and i can understand that there are several million, two or three, prisoners in russia, and they will be used to the maximum, if wagner did it before, now this is done by the storm, then the day after tomorrow there may be a hurricane from somewhere, well, the name of the unit itself does not make sense, what matters is that they have a mobilization resource, these are the so-called prisoners tied up, again, they are as much as possible they put pressure on the small nations that are part of the russian federation, and thus

gain an opportunity for themselves and make impossible the possibility of these very revolutions of small nations regarding independence, and now we are observing a new... reserve from where they are beginning to be mobilized, this , illegals, real illegals, migrants, persons without rights in principle in the russian federation, who are being forcibly mobilized, or some are spoken to and threatened with deportation, from the country they are offered a salary of 2,000 rubles there and more, well, of course, according to the old muscovite muscovite tradition, they don’t have any money... these illegals are not paid, but they still send them into battle on assault operations, which is why we see such huge, huge losses among muscovites near avdiivka, indeed avdiivka now breaks records for the liquidation of moscow and equipment, i.e. manpower and equipment, so

certain days there were somewhere after october, mid- october, the soil became very unsuitable for the movement of equipment, that is, the equipment could move, but it becomes static, it is immobile the target, accordingly, it was very easy to get into it, and the goose refused the mass there due to the mass use of equipment, a maximum of one or two units of equipment left, worked, ran away, now, when i had already seen sub-zero temperatures for several nights, then her moscow school began, is starting to use two-thirds of five units of equipment, showing... that they really bought equipment somewhere, de-conserved it somewhere, repaired it somewhere, brought in a new one, that is, de-conserved junk, or from the conveyor belt, that is, we expect that when it is cold squeeze

strong and the land will really become so suitable for more or less fast, let's name it in quotation marks movement of the technique, this technique will be applied, therefore absolutely everyone knows it, everyone is preparing for it. and they understand that it is necessary to have a massive supply of kamikaze drones, attack drones, and of course without any means, so we must, so to speak, always love our gods of war. bradleys also show themselves very successfully on the battlefield, about one bradley, how did it fail at all, recently, i think this brigade already boasted, one bradley can destroy up to three units of the enemy's equipment, in principle, without losses for themselves, that is why the enemy is trying to carry out his plan, to sharpen the avdiivka, but for us defenders of the avdiivka, this plan is not new, that is, this desire to take the avdiivka into the cauldron, it did not arise today, it was there immediately from the beginning of a full-scale war,

so, for example, i am not so panicked that we must now urgently flee from avdiivka, leave and so on, avdiivka immediately... before the first full-scale invasion was under threat from the encirclement, logistics were under fire, everything was controlled by the enemy, and for two years now he has been announcing that he was taken into the water or taken into the cauldron. of course, the situation is critical, the situation is critical in the north and the situation is critical in the industrial zone, but there are, let's call it that, field commanders of each brigade and only by mutual agreement, some kind of retreat or retreat to the second line is possible, but that's about it, about it, about it , about retreat, no one is talking now, that is, we all keep, let's say this, in our minds this option, the opportunity to report what we see, the need to retreat, but now the struggle is going on and in the course of the struggle in the industrial zone , near the steppe, near the zabo fence, koksokhim

, it is impractical to run away and leave now, if tomorrow such expediency arises, i am sure that the field commanders will give it to the leadership and a decision will be made, but now a difficult but effective struggle is going on, the enemy is eliminated and everyone is waiting for the frost when the equipment will come here, and according to that... technique , how many will come here and how many we can destroy in the first hours or minutes of the attack, but the fate of the avdia will be seen and understood, well, that would be better do, we have it hanging drone levy, pay attention, this is a bad card that you can help with this, we'll come back to that after the commercial, let's go to the commercial for a few minutes now and then get back to our conversation.

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of the legion of freedom, major of the ministry of internal affairs, and i already started talking about that, but we stopped at that to the question, what is very important, when it is already expected that the russians will probably try to storm again with equipment, it is very important to stop them, in time and this will be an indicator, and for this, in fact, it is important to have the right number of drones, sir maxim, tell us a little about this collection, about your needs, so that we can immediately orient our viewers to what exactly, how they can help? well, first of all, i want to immediately thank the express channel for putting up my fee for my unit, these are drones, specifically for ancient drones, and of course, their number, of course, in the first place , there would be nowhere to go, that is, if we feel that our fighters from altelevia are behind us, who

are hitting moscow very accurately and very painfully, then our drones will also work effectively, even more efficiently. .. as well as our art, respectively, now there is a huge duel in the sky, the enemy has been defeated, the muscovites are extremely active in the use of kamikaze drones, if before our logistics they tried to control our logistics with their own, to strike with fszv, now there are a huge number of kamikaze drones, very or impossible, or very very difficult... the logistics are happening, because kamikaji drones they monitor the road all day and sometimes, sometimes at night, when drones with night vision are used, that is, drones have become an overriding factor and an aspect and a tool of warfare, as a defensive , and of an offensive nature, therefore, of course, the nation and

the military are united even now, and accordingly there are such mini assemblies, which are such units as mine or others , and seeing how the nation throws its own funds at these deons, we understand that we really have a rear reliable, which is ready to help now economically, which is ready to drop, these small fees, somewhere will be bigger and so on, we are now going to attack drones, they can also be kamikazes and inflict blows, there are of course kamikat drones for one-time use, they are now very effectively, a number of our special forces use against their infantry, that is, they, the infantry now do not attack en masse, there like in the second world wars, in the movies, it is meant, they really hold the line, they are 15 m from each other, they act in assault groups , and sometimes it is extremely difficult for avta to eliminate or neutralize a whole group

of attackers with one shot, because they are also learning, they also want to live, and here, let’s say, you are the operators of the combat scene, they are the ones who are now the most effective in destroying infantry, one by one liquidating or a shaken infantryman , this is already a huge blow to the group, after which sometimes i think for a very long time whether to continue to storm, or just to retreat or surrender in a column, and while the autota has time, it can finish off or completely eliminate this group, so karmikaze drones are very important, and donate not only now for my collection or my unit's collection, for all the collections that are drones, it is more important, more important than cars, more important than food, even more important than warm things, because warm things, i'm sorry, i'll buy it myself, i don't know, the state will issue something else, but drones are extremely needed, they are needed in huge quantities , and no matter how many drones are given, they will be few and

far between, because the enemy uses huge amounts of manpower and its ... can be effectively eliminated only by drones, again the enemy outnumbers us in the air in the number of drones, that is, they started this way a long time ago, they do not shy away from it, on the contrary, they do it on an industrial scale and the number of their gifted kamikazes in some places exceeds twice ours, so i am asking again and again, i am asking our nation to sacrifice the superpowers for the elimination of moscow nonsense, well, you know so much in detail about all this and in fact it is about aligning our forces in all this, of course, we will of course be glad if certain technologies are handed over to us, there is a dronter that can destroy drones , well, that is, there are already units where these drones are, the bpla does not stand still, the bpla is not only there

, you know, is there anything else known , there is constant development, constantly, they are developing, we we have to... not lag behind, on the contrary, go ahead, therefore, unfortunately or fortunately, our nation is united, and accordingly it is ready for such small, and in some places also large financial assistance to our military, well, i really hope that our viewers will join and help your unit with this necessary such equipment, thank you very much maksym morozov, this is an officer of the legion of freedom, major of the ministry of internal affairs, spedavdii. we wish you luck there, we will help, let this collection for drones, well, hang until the end of the program , look, well, take it for yourself, join this collection, and let's go... we will talk with ivan yakubets again, mr. ivan, look, mr. maksym explained to us in great detail the whole situation with how

the war is actually going on now, especially with drones, how it all happens, why it is important, that it is actually important against the advancing manpower the enemy, and here it is really interesting, we are coming to an interesting moment, because now... there is already a lot of talk about the fact that the russians have actually gathered quite a large reserve of such, well, personnel, which they are now throwing into these attacks, that is, they actually outnumber us right now, well , in terms of the number of fighters on the front line, and this gives them the opportunity to attack, so it must be understood, yes, of course, you are right, and we also give the opportunity to attack what we... ceased to conduct active offensive actions, on a large scale, let's say so, well, at least as it was in the summer in the rabotny region there and so on, that's why they already

feel more free, let's say so, and they are definitely trying, but in the summer they expected us to rush, and that's why they held back a lot all the reserves and just used them in the directions where we were advancing, everything else was held back, in order that, expecting our somewhere to strike, such a big, big one, well , it didn’t happen, so they now distributed these reserves and are attacking by assault method , squeezing our troops, here on these heels directions that we talked about with you, well, i want to tell you that from their side, although it is slow, very slow, but still some in... let's say so, or a hint of success, you can say that we advanced a little further , captured the outskirts of some settlement

or the outskirts, and so on, so we can say that here they also understand that they cannot advance for the same reasons that the previous comrade major said, because our drone reconnaissance and drone strikes, they all, very much control the space both at night and during the day, and in connection with this, they tried to attack avdiyivka with columns of tanks and mechanized vehicles, it turned into a devastating rout for them , you remember, so now they are at least like this, in order to somehow indicate that they are still advancing do not sit down, in general i want to say that the war definitely, rightly said zulazhnyi , has become such a positional one, but each of the sides has a small tactical success in one direction or another, but at

the same time, the russians still do not leave, that means, their idea about , to be allowed to seize the donetsk region and, luhansk, that's why they have certain lines of activity here, according to which they... we showed that these are five or six offensive zones in which they are waging an active war, in the end they are sitting on the defensive, on the defensive , and i think that our leadership should think about it very carefully. mr. ivan , look, we now see that in fact, well , the russians manage to push through these offensive actions precisely because they have an advantage over... our defense forces, primarily in manpower, and here it becomes the question is, is it possible to somehow critically solve the lack of infantry and

attack aircraft with drones, artillery, well, in our country, because we see that we have this lack of infantry and attack aircraft, you know, infantry can only be replaced by infantry, because this is a war, and no matter how good artillery, tanks or... other means of armed struggle are, they help the infantry, they are all designed to help the infantry, and the main factor is the infantry, the infantry is mobilization, it is mobilization, because the soldier needs and the first to leave are people who are out of line, well, they are there are wounded, there are dead, and it is necessary to restore the kit, firstly, secondly, an army or some brigade or battalion cannot be there all the time, which means that it is a year on the front line, it cannot be done like that, she shouted. that

last year, mr. minister of defense , call for more, he answered us, but i have a million under the gun, and we ask, but where is that million, if the russians are advancing now or defending, 430,000, according to our intelligence, that means , we have about the same number, but where are the other 6,000, what do they do? other directions are covered, what are the other directions, in the north , of course, there, but you can get by there as long as there are no active actions there, in the northeast, as long as there are no active russian actions there, you can get by with smaller forces, that is, the army must be renumbered, uh, let’s see , where there are extra , and there are a lot of them, i could now give one

example, i... they will tell you that where a colonel commands 30 men, half of whom are women and half are men, this is a communication node, colonel, lieutenant colonel position, well, for example, what do they provide, what kind of ligament they deployed to martial law, and what are they and they provide two buildings, two buildings with a connection, i will not disclose further, but i have a lot of such options, but it is necessary to... redo everything, re-examine , re-equip, it is very difficult and such motor and er, responsible work, and to accumulate these reserves even from the number of conscripts, mobilized to date, well, mobilization is definitely needed to continue actively, but today i heard a program in which they said that it is better one in motivated will soldier than three

unmotivated at the front, you should not take the unmotivated, dear friends , you are wrong, you are very wrong, you cannot say that what unmotivated means , which means he does not want, or he does not know how, we will teach him who does not know how, and if he does not want, we will arrest him, this should be the slogan , this is war, and life, villages are destroyed, cities are completely destroyed. people die, people are maimed, the civilian population, and someone there will be unmotivated, mr. ivan, look, we don't have much time, i want to ask you a very short question, a short answer, to a difficult in fact, the question is, after all, you commanded exactly what is now called the airborne assault troops, and now the ministry of defense offers through recruiting companies that people can choose their profession, well, something like that. understanding that

whoever does not want to get to the front, he will not get to it, but will sit somewhere in the rear, engage in some slightly uneconomical affairs, but this in no way solves the issue, for example, of troops like yours, because airborne assault troops troops need young people, motivated, and here is the question, after all such troops need motivation, how exactly to motivate such people to join such complex troops, well, in my opinion , in the state today. it is a very good system of motivating people, except for the military-patriotic , let’s say, spiritual state, everything material is quite good, whether it is fulfilled or not , whether there are breakdowns somewhere and so on, it is difficult for me to say, but i have heard of such cases, that's why material interest is not bad now, it is firstly, secondly, it means motivation, it is necessary to carry out such

to be motivated... you need to be mobilized, join the men's team, where 50-100 people are standing, and they will work with you, explain to you, you will be trained for the battle, for all such necessary things, and how else to motivate, and so long as he runs somewhere and runs around outside the houses there or outside the fences, then how do you motivate him in any way, and he is the last one. and the last one, yes, i want to tell you, this is not a new thing in the history of military art and wars , it is very simple, it is necessary to create penal battalions, well, i think it is very similar, this controversial, let 's end it for now, thank you, it was ivan yakubets, a military expert, ex-commander of the airmobile forces of ukraine, well, our broadcast is over, see you in a week, and you watch: