councils, candidates for deputies from banned political parties, members of commissions from the precinct to the central election commission, from banned political parties, but if they are registered, then it will really be possible to talk about the partial cleansing of our political system from the russian fifth column, but this is so far not in the interests of the ruling power, which is trying in every possible way to... slow down or prevent the adoption of this lustration bill, by the way, several versions of this bill are registered in the verkhovna rada, servants are not give them a go, maybe they are interested in preserving the rags of the opzh and joint voting, a productive vote for the verkhovna rada. mr. volodymyr, what happened to kiva a month ago almost happened to oleg tsarev, or rather no, it didn't happen, although. tsarev, we remember

, was seen in the kyiv region after february 24, 2022, he was brought in order, as i understand it, to make him the executive director of ukraine, or i don't know what his position could be called, but he was on the territory of the ukrainian state from the beginning russian aggression, yanukovych was brought to minsk and they also wanted, they say, to bring him to ukraine and continued to extend his term of office, which he did not win in 2014, there are too many of these people in the russian federation and many of them have already started doing business, some of them use , vitaly also mentioned chelelenka, probably also about karnilovov, you wanted to mention those propagandists who, in principle, became part of this great propaganda machine, such ukrainians, as it were, who help or bring shells to valdemar, well, somewhere you understand, they

, they are part of this big machine, what happened in kyiv, does this mean that in ukraine, the sbu is turning into that massad, which in principle can get anyone, and whether this, the slow progress of these propagandists, who are part of the big machine of the kremlin machine, which is trying to use them in yet another hybrid war, a hybrid war against ukraine? yes, i think that now many people, well, vitaly prochelenko mentioned, i think, not only him, but also those who have a higher status, taking into account, in fact, not a small status, in all those collaborative structures that russia used under the same tsar, who had been in charge since the 14th year, the so-called parliament, the so-called little russia.

not novolosi, sorry, sorry, novorossii, yes, but for them it’s almost the same thing, yes, they tried to use him in such a status, where did this parliament go, now they don’t remember, but tsarov remained such a prominent figure, well and kyiv tried to be a propagandist, what happened, i think, yes, this is a signal, i think that and the sbu and ukrainian military intelligence, they are really working now for the mossad, for us this is an existential war, a war that has a huge meaning, the meaning of existence, the meaning of the future, and what is happening is a demonstration, there will be no mercy for the traitors, and i i think that most of these people will now live in fear , someone will be affected by it, someone, i think, may leave, try to escape somewhere, hide, stop their treasonous activities, someone will

continue it, because there is no other way out, but they will live in fear, by the way, here a very revealing reaction in the russian zmi to the death of the kiwa, but i looked, well, i will just quote some things that there will be no positive obituaries about the kiwa in either the ukrainian or the russian zmi, they write it in russia, it is glorious, of course, that margarita simonyan wrote hers among strangers , strangers among their own, kill their own, the question is, who are their own? i don't know who kiva is now, he's such a specific, adventurous character, but i think what he's got is the fate of a traitor, and i think that's just the sentence for people like him, and that a signal to others, yes, this is what will happen, even if you are removed, gentlemen, disrespectful traitors, you... you will not be remembered in russia

, you really are such an expendable material that was used and thrown into the garbage, such is the fate, and about that to fight the fifth column, according to the opzzh, well, there are legal nuances here , and they are already arising, well, here, as it was at one time in the 14th year with the lustration, when our european friends told us that this is not possible, there are such barriers here, by the way, there are certain draft laws from the side of the deputies from the servants of the people, regarding such people from opzzzh are eligible to participate in the elections, but i turn to something else. what worries me much more is not those who have now adapted, shut up, are there , trying to survive, in any case , they do not cause external damage, but you need to monitor them, monitor them, but the other thing is that people who were in

the propaganda department became more active medvedchuk's networks before the war, before the russian invasion, before the great war, now they have become active again, and they work very aggressively, very powerfully, and i think that in the security service ukraine and such people should be paid attention to, because now in our current situation, internal and external, we must fight against such informational influence, because it works much worse than my father's former fifth column, it may be the future one as well , therefore, it is necessary to monitor it, but special attention should be paid to those people who are actually working now: in the interests of medvedchuk, in the role of peacekeepers of sorts, who are actively advocating for peace, for immediate peace with russia, and in fact, working for methods of the kremlin. well, and since you are already mentioned those who worked for medvedchuk, and probably continue to share

his views with them somewhere, we cannot mention the many people who worked on his tv channels, on all kinds of news calls, 112s, and then... have moved, some of them to a single telethon, some to a youtube channel, and they behave quite aggressively, in fact , they behave and pretend that they were not connected to all that and to the media empire owned by viktor medvedchuk, which in 2021 in february, by decision of the national security council and the defenses were closed, and this is also a big question, mr. andriy, this is a question for you. if possible, why, yes, why, in fact, why all these, representatives of all these cesspools, medvedchuk's, they were, remain in the information space and in what way can they be localized? yes, sergey, if you can , about this, really, this is a big

problem, because those people who are really not only on medvedchuk’s channels, let’s remember murayev’s channel, are people who are currently actively working on youtube, who are very now effectively or not effectively is another question, but shake up the situation, talk about peace , which actually bring up various issues, including national issues, there is language, culture, there is decolonization, decommunization, they are starting to pour mud on all this again, yes, that is, they are present, moreover, i want to say, if we could say, well, these people, you know, they left the country, they are not there, they, relatively speaking, run their own channels there, their own resources. from abroad, but no, many of these people visit us in kyiv, live here in ukraine, run the same youtube channels here, we are also talking about journalists, the so-called fake ones, because it is impossible to call these people journalists in quotation marks, and about experts,

and many of them, they are here in ukraine, and they are already shaking up the situation here in ukraine, and here in ukraine they are shaking these pro-russian narratives, relatively speaking, they moved away from what happened in the 22nd year, they realized that many of them, well, relatively speaking, are not touched, and they became active again, we, we can generally see in the same self what is being done, moreover, there are resources that are still affiliated from the former opzh, yes, they are also in principle there on youtube, and some are not only on youtube , they are actually trying to broadcast, they are trying to invite again the same experts who were there under medvedchuk and so on and so forth, and it arises the question is, really, why no one, no one asks these people, well, how can this even be, how can it be at a time when ukraine is fighting, when the defenders are fighting, when rockets, shahedis are flying over ukraine, when russia

is conducting its aggressive, hybrid , including the war, and these people continue, conditionally speaking of shaking up the situation, here is an open question, why so, that is, or there is no political will. or there is not, conditionally speaking, or there is some, or some secret decision not to touch them, or there is no evidence, well, i absolutely do not believe it, the fact that there is no evidence, all the evidence... you can now open the internet and see, what did they do, what did they say and for whom did these people work, that is, i think that it is time , not that it is already time, the situation has actually become overripe, when those people who were before , who are today, who will continue to rock situation, especially taking into account the fact that the rashists have become extremely active in the mass media both abroad and here in ukraine, i think that the time has long been overdue, and here i am even talking... not only about media people, here we have already mentioned the politicians, the former deputies there from

the pro-russian political forces, they have also become more active, they are also starting to bark something, whine against, against certain pro-ukrainian things, we see how the fifth column in defense has become active again, for example , uoc mp, yes, russian orthodox church church, we see how 44, 44 people's deputies sign there, a letter, in fact, which is to... block, conditionally speaking, the voting of the government draft law, regarding, well, conditionally speaking, the banning of the russian orthodox church in ukraine, yes, that is, this also a vivid example of the fact that these people have become more active, i think that those who actually put such signatures, i think that those who tell us about the measure at any price, i think that those who are rocking today there is the issue of the russian language again in ukraine, i think it should be among them, thank you, thank you, mr. andriy, mr. vitaly, why

do you think the security service of ukraine does not touch those it should have targeted, or not yet, but after two years of war, in principle, there are probably a lot of questions for journalists and to public figures, and to church figures, but this fifth column was and remains in ukraine, this fifth column at any moment can play...against ukraine, against all of us? well, i have a question for our special service, why, in particular, some people were allowed to leave, why there really are no, well , preventive measures, or at least not reports on the facts of the investigation into the activities of the network that conducted propaganda work and i know that sometimes for some conversations, but these conversations did not continue, in this story,

but really for a certain period of time, networks that were under the control of stolor, medvedchuk and to other people, that's why shkona marov, who is currently sitting, by the way, another mp of the opzzh, who is now in sizzo, their financial resources were used... either to fill a single marathon, or as accompanying resources for relaying narratives necessary authorities. at that time it was logical, it was clear and they really fulfilled their task, but now yes, it is felt that there is a smell in the air, the restoration of political life, there was a lot of talk about the elections. and from time to time we see the emergence of new media projects, new

youtube channels, the creation of new pools by specific political forces or political groups that push a certain agenda, which will then form the basis of the election campaign of this or that political force. we can see two or three shades, conditional cotton wool, several shades there the nationalist forces, who, in their drive and mastery of the current government, come to accusations of treason, if possible and artificially inflame the situation, divide society and inspire various conflicts of contradictions, which may or may not exist, that's all, and by the way , this drive involves representatives who were, so to speak , moderate before the big one. how can i at the moment talk about the fact that there is some

already unambiguous single information policy that will allow to pass the entire media field through a sieve and remove russian agents or pro-russian, bearers of pro-russian narratives, well, it's quite difficult, because people are mimicking from conditional moderation. and the measure in the whole world to some patriotic rhetoric back, on the one hand, or fulfill the tasks of this or that group in power or close to power, their narratives and thus become necessary, besides, more and more we hear from our western partners that freedom of speech and democracy are not all right in ukraine, and that bringing information to a uniform politicians, it's about the same telethon,

in fact there is a hidden struggle with another and another opinion with freedom of speech, it is worth admitting that in some cases it is so, because sanctions and pressure are applied selectively, including on the opposition or critical, critical financial resources, critical to the current government, they come to them and say... let's bring everything to one common denominator, well, i'm just afraid that the common denominator will be a telethon, so this kind of thing is quite careful, with this need behave carefully and do not let the government fall into the temptation of this authoritarianism. thank you, mr. vitaly, sir, let's take a short break, literally a minute, and return to our

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the best political experts of ukraine: volodymyr fresenko, andrii smolii and vitaly kulyk. gentlemen literally an hour before our broadcast, joseph biden spoke and talked about what will happen in the congress of the united states of america, there should be a vote for the allocation of additional funds to ukraine in the amount of 61 billion dollars and said about what will happen if we, he said, if we don't vote, americans won't vote for it, we need to bring putin to justice. said biden, if putin takes over ukraine, he will not stop there, he will attack nato allies, and we will see how the american military will fight against the russian military, today's vote will be remembered for a long time, we cannot let putin win, said biden, and he also said that, well, he actually said in plain text

that there is a possibility that putin will go further to ukraine, and i mean to europe, if those who do not want to vote for additional financing of ukraine do not come to their senses, and this was actually repeated by andrii yermak, who while in the united states of america , said that ukraine could lose the war with russia without the help of the united states of america. mr. vladimir, what biden said and this warning is serious for senators and congressmen that if you do not vote. then the war will be much wider, meaning in europe, then the americans will have to participate in this war, are these arguments convincing? in your opinion, for the republicans, who in the packages with aid to ukraine include the issue of migration policy, the creation of some kind of

fence on the border with mexico, that is, whether proportional to this threat and whether, whether it is clear to the republicans, well, for us , it is definitely disproportionate, and i think that some republicans, senators, congressmen of the republicans also believe that the protection of ukraine, the support of ukraine is a national security interest for the usa, but the trouble is that the issue of the border, as well as changes in migration legislation in the usa, is now a fundamental issue for the republicans, they have brought it to the forefront, they say publicly, including the speaker of the lower house of congress, with whom, by the way, they met: the ukrainian delegation, they publicly say , yes, we support aid to ukraine, we will support it, but when

our demand is resolved, an increase in funding for the border with mexico and a change in migration legislation will be voted on, and this is already an internal political issue, unfortunately we have become hostages of this infighting, i'll give my subjective opinion, it may be... unpopular, but i don't care what bill is voted on in the end, from the democratic party of the white house or from republicans, in fact, only a compromise bill will have a chance, where the position of both democrats and republicans will be agreed, but the most important thing for us is that there should be help for ukraine and as soon as possible, because it has already been delayed for more than two months, and this is a delay, this is a question ... life and death is real, it has a real dimension from the lives of our fighters, today we all congratulate the armed forces with holiness, but now we need

not only faith in the armed forces of ukraine, we need help from ukrainians, both in the literal sense, and from our partners as well, therefore a compromise, there must be a compromise, here are the words of biden, unfortunately, the right words, absolutely the right words, the call is right, the diagnosis is right. but unfortunately, today this is not enough, a compromise is needed, and that is why i wish, and i know, there are mollusks, there, as our ambassador to the usa, ms. oksano markarova said, is holding the waders, for this, yes, yes, we need a compromise so that in the end aid for ukraine, well together with israel , was voted, thank you, thank you, mr. volodymyr, mr. andriy, why should ukrainians... already in the second year or two years the great war and 10 years of war with russia, why do we constantly have to prove to the world that what russia is doing in ukraine threatens not

only ukraine, but the whole world. unfortunately, these are the realities of the world, we see that certain things are really political, in various states, not only in the united states of america, they prevail rationally. a point of view, not just a point of view, but a vision of what, in principle, what russia is like, what putin is like, that you need to put aside your certain political preferences there, political games, the election campaign and fight against the evil that can lead to world war iii. we have to understand that if the united states of america, the european union, and other civilized states, and i'm sorry, don't make an effort to help ukraine, then the situation can really get out of control, and not only in ukraine, we see today, as putin is already there flying to

the united arab emirates, to saudi arabia, we see how putinists, racists are intensifying their media and political activities around the world, we see how they are actively trying to incite others conflicts, so this is not even a matter of some kind of dispute. this is a matter of a planetary scale, and with regard to the united states of america, well here it is quite clear , an election campaign has actually started, an election campaign that will be very dirty, as in principle it was the previous one and even before that, very dirty, and unfortunately, we, ukrainians are becoming hostages of this election campaign, we have to understand that this is not the position of the majority of republicans against ukraine. this is the position of pre-election already certain postulates, which essentially make on

allocating funds to us not only for israel , we will also say there are some points, yes in terms of world security, they make us simply hostages of all this, but on the other hand, so are, including indeed, the same congressmen who express such a certain pro-russian position, although they are a minority , there are not so many of them, and we have to convince them, but i will say the last thing here, actually not so much in this case, specifically in this case, it depends on us, here it really depends on , how fast, actually republicans and democrats will be able to agree and come to a certain consensus, a consensus option, although we also have to convince , speak, explain, without this, without this international, thank you mr. andriy, mr. vitaly, how do you think this whole discussion between democrats and republicans will end , because

really, as mr. said. is volodymyr the life and death of many of our compatriots who are now at the front? well, of course, i could tell pathetically that they should reconcile, shake hands with each other, to save ukraine, no, it seems to me that there is a classic unfolding of the plot of the movie "don't look up, don't look up", that is, the united states is actually destroying its monopoly in education with its own hands, it leads and shakes, and helps... destroy, i mean the trumpists, to destroy the existing world order, and they will understand, will lead to some kind of reasonable feeling only a perkhabor, which will be unexpected for the american political elite, and it will be a blow to the united states directly, that's when it will be possible for the democrats, trumpists, republicans to unite in one flight there,

in one political will that will go... to counteract the global evil that has been declared there or russia or china or someone else who will carry out this attack, i do not i believe in a compromise , in this case, i urge you to prepare for the worst, i believe that the event has done something to reduce, amortize possible negative losses, maybe then at some stage we will be able to tear away this aid, support, financial burden in parts transferred, this burden is transferred to european partners, to australia, japan, south korea, already now south korea is our main partner for the supply of ammunition, we receive weapons and ammunition from third markets, it is worth talking about loans, not receiving aid, already directly credit lines, and this will mean that for us there is a huge burden on the economy and

, first of all, to put up with our eastern eastern european partners, to look for points of contact, to step on the throats of our songs, build the production of ammunition mines on the borders and prepare for a very difficult winter. thank you, mr. vitaly, the time of our program, gentlemen, has come to an end. vitaly kulyk, andriy smoliy and volodymyr fissenko were guests of our program today. thank you for participating in the program, gentlemen, i will remind you that during our program. we conducted a survey and asked you, friends, whether ukraine should make concessions for peace with russia, what are the results of the survey on our tv broadcast 10% yes, 90% no, on youtube 15% yes, 85%, no, here are today's results of our survey, i will put an end to it, i say goodbye to you until tomorrow, until 20:00, i wish you all good health, take care

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