most likely, according to this scenario, they can be not so much on high-voltage power lines, but on substations, in the system, system, system, that means power output, generation, this is the first scenario, the second scenario, which in principle, and we need of this critical scenario be prepared. the second scenario is that this year there will not be such a large number. as it was last year, yes, of course, we are already observing attacks in the east of ukraine, near the front line, there they are constantly hitting one of the ukrainian theses, but so far not can destroy it, you mean the one that is located in the eastern region, and it was not the first to be hit there and we constantly talk about it, yes, i wanted to ask you about it, because there are constantly numerous damages, but it does not stop, and

again, for you to explain this moment as well, this is a real feat, or they just luckily hit the wrong place , or a real feat of the power engineers, who constantly do not let this station freeze, well, this is, first of all, definitely the result of the work of our power engineers, and this is, first of all, why that there is information, information that even energy are working during these shots and one of the energy workers, repair crews was wounded recently, so it is so, so i would like to report to my friend, to add to my opinion, that according to the second scenario, mass attacks, in addition to local ones, such as this year it may not happen at all, since russia made another bet, it made a bet on some kind of destabilization of ukraine from the inside. and this is, firstly, secondly,

certain negotiations are going on, in the triangle of russia, russia, the usa, china, well, they are not official, these are these negotiations, and besides, in russia at the moment there are certain, so to speak, turbulent processes and the struggle for power between different clans, and all this in a complex, yes, maybe, maybe... create such conditions that they will simply accept a different scenario, how to harm ukraine the most, no chere ukraine is not because of attacks, massive strikes on the infrastructure, so we need to consider these two main scenarios, it seems to me that we should consider them, but we definitely need to prepare for a critical scenario, although there is a sufficient probability that, as i said, in the month of september, there is a sufficient

probability that that massive strikes on energy structure, as it was last year, we will not observe, so you confidently say, this is a rare confidence that echoes in our airwaves, as if we can know something, probably in these situations, but it is nice to hear it, please tell me if we talk about the fact that there is enough energy now, this will be the last question, now there is enough energy, but our electricity consumption is still increasing, according to the temperature, according to... the population, and taking into account the fact that the density of individual cities, she became more like this affects the situation, let's say there is no bahmut, nobody lives in bahmut, let's say some villages, towns, and now some people, it moves to safer places, how does density affect what happens with the redistribution of energy, well i i think that it does not affect very much, because... we mainly receive

electrical energy from the unified energy system of ukraine, so the stress, tension, voltage, it is the same in any region, yes, that is, the power is also transmitted, for for the entire energy system of ukraine. today we entered the winter without a sufficient reserve of power, it is true, but in the month of december, i think we will not observe any noticeable shortage of electrical energy, but starting, probably from january, when there will already be severe frosts, then we can expect a certain shortage of electric energy in certain peak hours, so citizens need to use it more economically, precisely from 5 to 7 hours, primarily in the evenings.

its energy devices in order to pass normally without any such crisis phenomena, the whole autumn-winter period. and more though. i ask the question because the working group of the committee on energy, the committee on energy and housing and communal services met in the verkhovna rada the day before, and they talked about the fact that it is worth encouraging people to change and it is worth laying the foundations for energy-efficient behavior, now pensioners are once again being offered to change ordinary light bulbs for energy-saving ones, mr. volodymyr, this is a drop in the ocean, or are these changes that are small at first, and then grow to certain ones. large processes, well, this is very important, very important, because really, that drop to a drop gives a whole ocean, which means positive , that is, millions of citizens, if they will really do it, and change their electric lamps

to more energy-saving ones, in addition, they will use their energy devices more efficiently, for example, also smart so-called sockets, which means that in general there will be to consume more not during peak hours, there in the middle of the day or at night, then this will be a huge help to the ukrainian energy system, and the energy front is also a very important front, on which we are all fighters and have to make our own contribution, everyone's treasure for overall victory. thank you, volodymyr omelchenko, director of energeta. programs of the center of intelligence was in touch with us. next, we talk about our western borders. the strike of polish carriers at the border has already had a negative impact on ukrainian exports. at the blocked checkpoints, the transit of goods decreased by 40%. and the budget lost uah 9,300 million due to

non-payment of customs payments. danylo heitmantsev, head of the parliamentary committee on finances, stated this on the air of the united news telethon. according to him, domestic carriers also lost. 400 million euros for the first two weeks of the blockade. the customs revenue plan is under-executed by 19%, although there was over-execution in october. this is a huge amount of money that the army did not receive, which is very much needed by the state. in addition, the strike affects the economy and poland itself, the mp believes. and now ilyani skhodovskyi, economist, head of the analytical direction of the ants network, ilya, congratulations. have a good day, tell me. a large amount was named by the people's deputy, it is 40, 400, or more precisely, millions of euros in damages for private companies and this is a loss of almost 9.5 billion for the budget, and who will compensate them and are there any chances that we can somehow

demand from poland or the european union, or in some way compensate these funds, or are these all irreversible losses, well, according to the budget , it is because there is no appropriate legal basis for demanding compensation from under-received budget funds, however , private companies have the right to sue, due to the fact that this protest violates polish legislation, to block international highways, to block the border itself, and this is not just the border between poland and ukraine , it is the border of the eu, contrary to the agreements that were concluded, those contracts that are, of course, companies have the right to collect relevant information about the damage caused and to file a lawsuit , both to the polish court and to the european union, so to say that it is unrealistic is not true, that is, private companies will be able to sue,

to compensate for some part of the losses that were caused by this blocking, please tell me if we are talking about what i want to talk to you about income taxation, the central bank of the russian federation has more than 200 billion, most of the funds are now kept in an international depository in belgium and during this time these funds bring profit. next, in what way and who will dispose of this profit? well, this is a question of income, that is, it is more of a question that because these funds are on deposits, interest is paid on them, some funds are invested in securities in, including european securities prices and other countries, they receive corresponding coupons, and this is also income, and at the moment, these funds are as frozen as the assets themselves, but aa in the future there is an active discussion now, and

belgium has already made a decision about the fact that these frozen incomes from russian assets will be transferred to ukraine, the total amount of relief is 1.7 tens of billions, because the largest amount of frozen russian assets is concentrated there, the company that manages these russian assets is located, throughout the european union, this amount is somewhere from approximately 3 billion, and up to 5 euros billions of euros, which may be the income received by frozen russian assets to date and which may be transferred to ukraine in the event of such a decision by the european union. yes, well, our relations with the european union are only being improved and should be strengthened in this regard, and this is extremely important, although, again , we see that as soon as ukraine shows its strength and even goes to sue international institutions on one or another issue our partners and our neighbors, it is precisely here that we

show our statehood and our own subjectivity, in which we defend our interests and in some places quite successfully, this is extremely important, at the same time we are watching what is happening with the provision of financial aid from the european union to ukraine, this is about both financial support and allocation long-term four-year support to ukraine in the amount of 50 billion euros, this will also be agreed upon, and here it is extremely important to understand how this consensus will be reached. mr. ilya, do you think we understand that big money is also a matter of politics, will european politicians be able agree, because declaratively we, well, we hear from almost everyone that europe owes ukraine the protection of its borders, democracy, and everyone should be united, but at the same time,

for example, german politicians say that we cannot fulfill the promised million shells simply because we don't have resources, can it be the same with funds, for example, well, funds are a little easier, there is no need to increase additional production, but there are other challenges, in particular, for example, clearly one of the countries of the european union must... that any decisions in the european union are made by consensus, that is, each country must approve such decisions, if one country is against, then accordingly it actually affects the general decision, this is hungary, and hungary is speaking out right now, regarding the fact that it is against the separation of these funds, and in order to somehow change the order itself, in particular, for example, determine a certain amount of 12, 13 million euros there for one year, then revise it for the following years, depending on how

ukraine fulfills those or other solutions of the european union, this is an unequivocally unacceptable option for us, we will always be in such an elevated state that we may not receive these funds, it is critically important for us, today we finance our budget expenditures, including pensions, salaries budget employees, and we finance the performance of other state functions other than defense functions at the expense of the funds of our international partners, so if these funds are not received, well , we can say, we will have a serious disaster, it will mean that the european the union is actually giving victories to russia, which has much more power today than ukraine, so in this context it is necessary to negotiate, and now there is pressure on hungary from the leadership of the european union, and separately. countries in order for the decision to be taken in favor, tell me how financially dependent hungary is on the european

union? is very dependent, but it must be understood that not all funds can simply be cut off in hungary, and a certain part there, if i am not mistaken, more than 18 billion euros, and this is something that can in principle be tamed and we already had it in 2022, but it is also connected with others in that hungary does not fulfill its obligations on freedom of speech, does not fulfill its obligations regarding supremacy, rights and so on, accordingly , the european union has already made a decision to cut these funds, so there is a certain influence here, but still, the question is to what extent hungary is ready to continue being in the european union, why, because hungary declares that for her, in fact , it will be constant, so if she doesn't like it. and that urged our diplomats, please, let's replace hungary with ukraine, this is a country, our

ukraine, it is ready to fulfill its obligations to comply with the relevant european norms and rules. you firmly say that ukraine is ready to fulfill its obligations. ukraine is now waiting to see what will happen with the aid package from the united states, and we are following the events in congress directly. we can draw here some absolutely categorical such... scenario that, for example, this aid will not be, plus, the united states emphasizes its of the ministry of defense, what exactly is left of the number of this military aid, and as a way forward then it is worth reflashing the country, or not to think about it for now, it is worth waiting for answers, it is worth sitting down to calculate all the amounts and then the country should move in some way, or in any case it is necessary to rearrange the country's lifestyle already, and it is necessary to understand that today 4 billion dollars are spent on the army

every month, on other expenses related to budget expenditures, this is approximately. dollars per month, if we do not receive funds, that is will mean that, firstly, we will need to increase a lot of state functions, because we will not be able to finance them, we are also forced to actually freeze on, for example , social expenditures, the financing of the state budget deficit will be carried out at the expense of, for example, the same of the national bank , that is, to actually attract at the expense of emission funds, so for us it is a very serious business. should we think about it? i believe that to think and develop some ways with minimal negative impact for the budget, for people, for the economy to attract funds, this is how we should think about it, but still we must understand that this can be said to be such a catastrophic development of the event, and we must work with our international

partners, explaining that if you are not a question of military aid to us, a question of financing. assistance to ukraine in the form of financing our expenses from the state budget, if this assistance is not available, then the future opposition to ukraine is in great question, so we need to do it, we need to definitely take advantage russia by this situation, and if there will be any cuts in social spending, any worsening of the social situation, and our international partners must be clearly aware of this, because if there is no such understanding, then in this case, well, the challenges are simple and the consequences are simply catastrophic, very a lot, of course, thank you, because the washington post is already writing about the fact that ukraine and its supporters should prepare for the return of trump by taking several important steps back and important steps already,

so we raise this topic with you, yuliani skhodovsky, economist, head of the analytical direction of the ants network, was with us on... on the call. ukraine has started consultations with the european union regarding security guarantees. the office of the president of ukraine informed about the first round of negotiations. ihor zhovkva, deputy chairman of the op, and charles friese, secretary general of the european external action service for peace, security and defense, took part. during the negotiations , the parties exchanged visions of approaches to future eu security guarantees with an emphasis on security and defense issues. future ukraine's membership in the eu is in itself a powerful guarantee of security for our country and the european community in general. we greatly appreciate that already at this stage we are discussing concrete steps to strengthen our common security and strengthen the stability of ukraine. ihor petrenko, a political scientist, joins our broadcast. mr. igor, congratulations. i congratulate you. in the context

of security guarantees, what exactly can we talk about and how long will these guarantees be. well , collectively, if we're talking about the european union, are these tracks from by each country of the european union individually, security guarantees are bilateral agreements with specific countries, i.e. we have already started consultations with the united states of america, with a number of european countries, respectively, they will be precisely in the form of a bilateral agreement between ukraine and this state, where the steps will be listed , what is this country ready to do in the event of aggression against ukraine, of course, that there will be no provision that they will perceive an attack on ukraine as an attack on their respective state, but at the same time , the issue of the supply of weapons, financial aid, a joint policy of sanctions against the enemy, and a number of other measures that can be implemented there will be clearly established, but given that each country, and given the internal

the situation, that is, the perception of these risks by the relevant society itself, it. different, that is why these treaties will be individual, our key task is to ensure that there are as many as possible of these treaties with the main leading countries, where, after all, it will be presented as an obligation, yes, not in wording, in statements , such as holding consultations there, but as clearly as possible a list of actions that our partners will be ready to take, but just the fundamental difference, what, how, what will be situation, comparing now, because it actually supports us. the union and each country of this union individually, after the signing of these agreements, what should fundamentally change, because you said that there should not be consultations, but certain clear actions to

support ukraine, and how they will change, if, let's say, these security guarantees will be signed, and the hostilities, the war on the part of russia against us will still continue, well, look, to date, the help that we receive from our partners is within the limits of the conditional goodwill that they show in accordance with ukraine, considering its partner, when we have a bilateral agreement, these are already certain obligations, and then it is already much more difficult, for example, to change approaches in connection with, for example, the internal situation, that is, elections are held, certain political forces change , but they don't care if they are against this treaty, they will have to make an effort to denounce it, well, that is, to nullify it accordingly, and this will cause certain difficulties accordingly, that is, these are the obligations that do not depend from the one who will be in power, yes, well, if

the government there somehow changes radically, then they will have to make appropriate efforts to get out of it there, and this will also impose certain difficulties and allow us to continue, accordingly , receive help and support, i.e.... now it is something that is within the framework of goodwill, in the future, when there will be these security guarantees, it will be something that has already been put on paper and something that will be binding, let's say, that is, we protect it a little in this way yourself also from internal situations in one or another country, tell me, what we are talking about now is all within the framework of the kyiv security compact, yes, that is, the kyiv security package or agreement. which was formed in the president's office with the participation of the previous gentsek nato, rasmussen and andriy yarmak, and here

an important aspect, and as far as i remember, the terms were not discussed there, these agreements, now, perhaps you know, they are also open-ended, well, that is, if we conclude this agreement, of a bilateral nature, then it is already valid until perhaps another solution. the parliament or the leader of this country, or how it can end, this is what we are laying down in principle, really, yes, it is really within the framework of the security compact, it is really the work done by rasmoson yermak's group, it is also a certain philosophy , which includes the president's peace formula zelenskyi, and of course we would definitely not like to raise the issue of deadlines, but again it will depend on... negotiations with each country, where each wording and each step that a specific country is ready to take will be discussed.

as a rule, such an international contract, again, this is more likely for lawyers, but obviously it can be concluded with the indication that there is a termination before someone is the initiator, but again, this is a certain procedure that must be followed accordingly. and this voting, respectively, there in the parliament , yes, then it is also signed by the head of state, and so on, yes, that is, this is also a certain time, which may be needed in order to conduct some additional consultations, now we are primarily targeting large countries seven, we conduct consultations with them accordingly, and as for the leaders, let's say of the free world, well , of course, there is a question of deadlines and so on. further, well, there are not any, such as are being raised there now, but well, theoretically , there may certainly be some proposals, requests

there on the part of these countries, igor, and if we talk about the initiative to change the decision-making procedure in the european parliament, how long is the discussion around this issue, and in what way the countries themselves, 27 countries. of the european union must agree to this new procedure, it is not a simple matter, it is not only the european parliament, it is in general, yes , the decision-making procedure in the european union, which is multi-stage, but which is based on the principle of consensus, and there is indeed a situation when one country , it can undermine the decisions of all other countries, yes, that is, 27 members respectively, one country undermines the decision of 26, and this is not very right, and in fact, this is what has been said for a long time about changing the consensus procedure to a qualified majority in order to be able to maintain unity and not to undermine decisions in sensitive issues, issues of sanctions pressure,

issues of expansion and so on, but this is a difficult issue, actually, uh, because obviously, well, there will be dissatisfaction, yes, and what further steps there will be, well, that also an open question, but relatively the effectiveness and the speed of decision-making, well, the effectiveness of the european union's work, well, this is what is really on the agenda, how quickly these discussions will take place, it is difficult to predict so far, now we see that the european union, its leaders, and representatives governing bodies there , also charles michel, he is putting a lot of effort into convincing those countries that are now opposed, in particular, this is hungary, you know that charles michel, he interrupted his visit to china, with the fact that in order to precisely to hold meetings with orbán, in the same way macron is now preparing for a meeting with orbán in order to precisely convince and remove this issue, well, here a great deal of work is being done by all our partners, respectively,

from their side. we are also making efforts and leading the proverbial track, respectively, with hungary , we are adjusting and with fico with slovakia, so it seems to me that a lot of effort is already being made here, we will have a result, but this is a discussion in the middle of the european union, it is going on and will be accordingly to continue, although it will not be easy and it will not be quick, it is true. mr. igor , thank you, in fact, we will discuss this in the coming weeks... this situation, these proposed changes, in what way these changes will be discussed, clearly, here not the last role belongs to the leaders who will convince hungary and other countries , so that the european parliament and the european union itself changed this decision, ihor petrenko, a political scientist was in touch with us, now we have to pass the floor to the information service and thank all those who were with us, vadym kolodiychuk, tetyana goncharova, the national single news marathon

continues. shohorons approaching victory. an athlete, by his very nature, is a strong and unshakable person, but for more than a year, ukrainian athletes have been starting out of grief. each of them has a broken heart that aches for ukraine, for those whose lives were taken away by russians, for those who were deprived of the happiness of being with their relatives, in this house, ukrainian boxer, honored coach of ukraine, mykhailo , was killed by a russian rocket korinovsky, before the tragedy, he celebrated his birthday daughters, another dad - who has passed away. i

urge everyone to support the ban on russians and belarusians participating in sports competitions. they defiantly demonstrate that they support their army, and therefore the genocide of the ukrainian people. we must stop the heavy killing of ukrainians. silence kills. step by step, they move from one danger to another, step by step, they free our land from invisible death, fields and forests, homes that have been visited by evil, without sappers, life will not return here, without the courage and dedication of these people, we not

let's go back home we thank the sappers of the state emergency service of ukraine for your work and our safety. i am a russian warship, i suggest you lay down your arms and surrender. in ukraine. glorification is the will, we still have laundry, but the youth, fate will smile, our youth will perish.