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there are 6 billion left for aid to ukraine and this is practically all military aid and it is running out, 175 million announced yesterday by mr. biden, for which we understand that thanks, but this is clearly not enough for victory and in order to move forward, to liberate ukrainian territories, and it seems to me that this blackmail really goes beyond the limits of reason, due to the fact that political pressure and manipulation should not go beyond the red lines of national interests themselves. of the united states, and ukraine, of course, i think, i think that there is still a certain time gap, it could be, at least until christmas, the negotiations, it is clear that it is important for each party to get its budget and to win over the other side, well, because we see that this is the last budget before the presidential elections, that is, to show yourself more in the budget process. no one
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will have a chance, well, but i see certain positive trends due to the fact that the parties have no longer taken a position against against, and everyone is lobbying for their own, remember, the republicans even last month and the last few weeks they said that they are against ukraine , that they don't want it, they believe that weapons are being stolen, money is being stolen, everything is bad, well, now no one says that they are against ukraine, they have taken a position abroad, that is, they stand up for it. border, and yesterday biden sent a pretty strong message, he said, i 'm ready to make concessions for you, but you also make concessions, because it's a multiparty consensus, a bipartisan consensus, let's somehow decide, well , i think by the end of the year, maybe the beginning of the next must still come to an agreement and to allocate this money because, after all, it is for the interest of the united states, for the geopolitical interest, the struggle of democracy against the dictatorship, it is not a catastrophically large amount of money, but it is money that
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ukraine desperately needs. a very important point , you mentioned president biden, and i would like to clarify, he said yesterday that in his address to the congressmen himself, when he asked for additional funding for ukraine, that if putin takes over ukraine, the american troops will fight the russians in the event of an attack on a nato ally, that's right somewhere there is an excerpt from the quote that was pronounced by biden, this is political pressure on the republicans, that is, an attempt at this pressure, or is it an attempt to influence the american voter, or is it a sincere desire to help ukraine and a real assessment of the threats that may be if the war goes in the wrong direction and the development of events on the front, which ukraine's allies see. well, i think that these alternative scenarios that biden is showing are very real, if we said before that these scenarios are discussed and thrown around very often there are different experts retired military, then
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in this case we see that at the highest level the current president is talking about them, which means they are more than realistic, first, second, the republicans should also understand this, well, he shows them a real map, because one simple for the reason, if they really want to come to power in the next presidential elections, they will have to solve these problems themselves, and he is also demonstrating this story to them, i think that there was a certain pressure, there were certain... threats, well, that ok, that's what it's called anyway democracy, they go to the auction, well, the only thing is that it was really very important for us to get this money faster, because this time is our life, and what biden has already said for the lives of americans, i think he in general, i went through the entire message board, well, i showed the situation as it could be, but you see, the republicans stand their ground and now it will depend not on ukraine, but
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really on the steps that biden is ready to take on migration policy, speaking of biden, quick question, that's it context, to finish the possible discussion, i will simply ask, as long as biden remains in the white house as the president now, and if we assume that this will happen after the elections that will be held in the united states, ukraine can be safe because the position of the united states and the administration , in particular, the american will not change in relation to it. well, look , i don't think it will be necessary to make a bet or think that we are tied to someone one, after all, ukraine is the united states, which is called friends of families, and that's right states have accepted all ukrainian presidents , but ukrainians have always been friends with both parties, with all presidents, so after all, the bet here is not on biden personally, but i will say that for biden , ukraine's victory, i think, will also be personal and political victory. who
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has been coming here for decades, who knows almost everything here, who knows many politicians who grew up under his eyes, well, i think that this is a very personal story for him even after afghanistan, where it is clear that... not the best way out, well, allow more one such story would simply be political suicide for him, that's why the stakes are high for him, for us, they are generally catastrophic for us, but for him they are high, so it is clear that the way he is pressing now , he rarely resorts to such a thing, i am more than sure that he will press, well , they will come to some kind of compromise, but we see that even last week, when the press was explaining to the republican elections in the republican states what theirs is. bonuses from this help, well, it's actually such a very rare political move when you a democrat, you convince voters, your own, competitors that it is profitable to do it, it would seem, yes, on the contrary, everyone invests in radicalization, in division, in rupture, in incitement, on the contrary, he came out with
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a good old message, to explain why it is good, no one has used it like that for a long time, no one has acted like that for a long time, and he does it, well , including for our sake, so i think that this is his... including the war, he wants the victory of ukraine, he sees this victory, well , it is clear that he considers putin a snotty dictator, who is definitely needed punish. taking into account the way the states are currently discussing aid to ukraine, the ongoing discussions, and this is a country targeted in particular in europe, do you think that support for ukraine among european countries can waver? look, if the states don't give money, half of the european countries will automatically fall away, except for those over whom on... this is a real threat, why this money is so important, including that it is token and political money, because everyone sees the support of the states of ukraine, and biden was right yesterday when he addressed congress in his appeal that uh, this is the best gift for putin, not to give money to ukraine, it
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will be the best gift, to bleed ukraine, look, some of our neighbors are no longer full of sense, and they were so afraid of putin's attack that they began to act on him benefit, there are such in psychology. well, fear leads to irrational actions, for example, poland, which blocks supplies to ukraine, blocks the supply of goods to ukraine by blocking the border, where the president supports by giving permission, but that is, it would seem like such a very trivial thing, well, they block themselves and block, but, if we understand , then by blocking all the cargo, and letting only the military through, they are showing the russian agents who are sitting in the bushes there and filming on cameras which trucks are really carrying weapons, here is poland for you, it would seem, and already , are already working against, slovakia , hungary, well, that's why it's actually a very big risk, the states are the main partner-ally, no one on this planet can give more than the states can give, and
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no one can give stronger support than the states do no one to suggest, so actually this a story about leadership first of all, we still have a minute left , i want to ask, actually, putin flew to visit the united arab ... emirates, where he met with representatives of this country, with the highest leadership, putin is gradually increasing his international influence on the international arena, what do you think, is this kind of activation before the elections that will be held in russia, to show the russian voter that putin is still respected in the world, feared, invited, and treated with honors when he comes, no, i think that the visit should have been so bright, so that it was so memorable... at the end of the year, that it was thought that he went somewhere this year. in fact, if you look at putin’s trips, this is a zone close to him, uh, post-soviet countries, and friendly dictatorial regimes, well, china, and the emirates of saudi arabia, well, that is, by
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and large, all autocracies and dictatorships, putin is not outgoing, he has atrophied international function as president, he is, by the way, as president, he is not a horse. how about you it is correct to say, so as not to offend anyone, a diploma, he is a diplomatic invalid, he is disabled as a diplomat, he cannot represent the country to the end. the russians are losing in the representation of their country because their president is an international criminal, a murderer and abductor of children, and accordingly he cannot travel to half the planet, even to africa he cannot visit all countries, although it would seem that because he can sit down at once according to the warrants that ukraine launched and is still launching, this is not the only genocide, the holodomor will be there, which they planned with the military, and many other things, but eh, the function of the international representative office is atrophied, here is this trip, well, i think, in fact, he went to bask in the sun, he was already sitting in a bunker, eh, he just started reverse processes
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in the absence of sun, and that’s just putin exported, and these are precisely the only dictatorial autocratic countries that could accept him, and the money, he took to export the money, the end of the year, what was stolen from the army, stolen from... a pensioner, well, where else is it better to keep it if not in dubai, well, that's exactly where he took me, and that's it we do not rule out that there may also be elements of part of his family there to see them too, but first of all it is money, thank you sir. for your analysis, mykola davidyuk, political scientist, guest of our broadcast, we talked about international support for ukraine, as well as putin's visits to foreign countries. this is the broadcast of svoboda ranok, we see you here on the air on the youtube channel of radio svoboda, as well as on the tv channel and further in our broadcast, don't miss it. ukrainian intelligence confirmed the death of the former people's deputy ilya kivy. it is first full-scale. moved to russia and spread narratives favorable to the kremlin there, actually all
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the details of who is involved and how it all happened, wait. in the foreign media, it seems that a disinformation campaign is being prepared against the top leadership of ukraine with the aim of dividing society. such a message was disseminated in the center for countering disinformation, whether ukraine is effectively resisting information challenges, and how exactly we will talk to experts. your preferences. and comments under this video will allow it to become popular on the network, and so that more people can see it, so share your thoughts and impressions. foreign media are preparing a disinformation campaign against the top leadership of ukraine. this was announced by the center for combating disinformation at the national security and defense council. the purpose of this campaign is to split ukrainian society, for this information operation, they allegedly want to attract foreign journalists who have experience working in russia. and a series of publications should appear in the columns of english-language resources. russian special services plan to involve
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experts, political scientists, leaders of public opinion, journalists, who are familiar with similar processes within the russian federation. it can also be about expert comments and articles, where russian narratives will be strengthened in one way or another. andriy yusov, a representative of the main directorate of intelligence, told the public about this. the materials can be different, it is not about one material, it is precisely the wave and the series, and they can. differ among themselves, but in particular it is about the specific names of the military and political leadership of our country. it's not about something new. most likely, it will again be a compilation of facts and stereotypes that will be used by opponents of continued support for ukraine as an argument for their actions. yusov added that the outbreak of such a wave of disinformation is planned at an extremely important period, when partners are making key decisions regarding support for ukraine. earlier , the coordination headquarters of the management of prisoners of war declared that russia was preparing a wave of disinformation against the state bodies
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of ukraine, which are working on prisoner exchange processes. destabilizing information seems to be spreading through propaganda channels, and dmytro lubinets, the representative of the verkhovna rada of ukraine for human rights, reported. he noted that the only source that constantly complicates the exchange process and nullifies all efforts of ukraine is russia itself, which, they say, wants to shift the responsibility and blame the disruption of exchanges on the ukrainian side. the ombudsman added that ukraine continues to do everything to keep the negotiation process going. in the center of combating disinformation at the council of national security and defense, it is also reported about disinformation and manipulative campaigns taking place in the temporarily occupied territories. andrii shapovalov, acting as head of the center for countering disinformation at the national security and defense council, guest of our broadcast, i congratulate you. very often we hear statements that russia is intensifying disinformation campaigns against ukraine, but if we talk about the amounts, actually, that the russian federation spends on this disinformation
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campaign as a whole, does the ukrainian side have any idea what kind of money we are talking about? adjust the sound, adjust the sound, actually with our guest, let's talk about disinformation, the topic is really important, because given the way information is spread in the context of a large-scale russian-ukrainian war, it is necessary to understand what can be picked up... what can not be picked up from those messages that are received, in fact, that is why i think that this conversation is worth listening to, mr. andriy, we congratulate you once again, in fact, these are colossal sums, i congratulate my colleague, and it should be understood that we are talking about not only direct costs, which can be seen in budget, in the 22nd year, yes in these direct ways, the kremlin spent almost 1.9 billion dollars, although 15 billion were laid there in the budget, real payments in the 22nd year
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were exaggerated by a quarter, in fact what was laid, and in principle, propaganda has reached an unprecedented level in russia today, well , since the time of the soviet union, you can say so, and at the same time it is important to understand once again that it is not only about... spending there on a conditional rashu today, a satellite, or their internet development institute, which generates content, and it is about there about... media sponsored, for example, by gazprom, and that in fact, the same pocket, russians, russian taxpayers, for whom, for example , the entertainment segment of content is maintained, that is, all kinds of tnt, sts, which with jokes, with
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chatter, also justify russia's war against ukraine, a just war, make fun of it in cinema, create an image of a ukrainian , depopulate ukrainians, that is, today, if we talk about propaganda in russia, we should be talking about the creation of an alternative reality in general, which replaced the real world for russians today, or, well, in principle, another justification for the fact that they are creating, to this day, and at that level of support, a dictator who is supported by the russians today, who is going to go to conditionally democratic elections again, it is necessary to talk about such a volume of propaganda, mr. andrii, if we are talking inside russia, but if we are talking about the way russia carries out this propaganda, it actually goes with information to countries, neighboring countries, to european countries, for
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example, which countries are the priorities of the russian side, where they put their most efforts in order to spread this... with information , ah, well, since they still have a lot of money, they spend it in different vectors, and to spread their disinformation, they use the entire network of kgb agents who were recruited there 30 years ago, and they use all kinds of their cultural centers, which are actually disseminators of propaganda disinformation, they actively use religious institutions, that is, this russian church today, in many small countries, for example, south america, is a source of disinformation, and the community there is conventionally russian-speaking, many he learns the news there from his shepherd , who in his epaulettes under a cassock tells exactly what
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is happening, that is, their disinformation machine, it is so big and so multi -layered that it is almost impossible to break it down in a few minutes of the air, i would like to say that the what the center for countering disinformation publishes is actually 20%, because 80% of the study of the tactics, techniques and procedures of the russians, in the world of disinformation, they are not public, today we have unique software, we see telegram, we see its russian and ukrainian segments practically, i must you to interrupt, because we have a minute or so before our conversation ends, i would like to clarify about the disinformation that can be spread against the top political leadership of ukraine, it is tentatively about volodymyr zelenskyi, about the chairman of the verkhovna rada, who could it be about in the context that this disinformation campaign will probably be spread again, well, specifically this provocation, it was
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directed against the top leadership of the state, but i cannot say how it was specifically designed, because it could expose information that has the status of restricted access, and i would very much like to show you the whole scheme now, to tell you who paid whom in russia for the so-called investigations, but for now i cannot do that and i hope that someday we will be able to show it, the main goal - this is an undermining of internal political unity, this is provoking conflicts between different social groups, they are dispersing the narrative about the need to hold presidential elections there during the war, they protested this thesis, but so far, unfortunately, it was more to the liking of the so-called ukrainian politicians, not society, and that is why this thesis has been put aside for the time being, and your center, as i understand it, is still investigating this topic, how it will
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develop, how it works, i thank you for the analysis and for enabling, andriy shapovalo, acting of the manager. center for countering disinformation at the council of national security and defense of ukraine, guest of our broadcast. in the suburbs of moscow , ex-deputy of ukraine ilya kyiva was found dead. this was first reported by russian telegram channels and state media. subsequently, the information was confirmed by the ukrainian security forces. the russian investigative committee reported that kiva died on the spot from a gunshot wound. it was probably a small arms. the security service of ukraine is responsible for the liquidation of the odious politician based on the information received from the ukrainian law enforcement agencies. this was not officially confirmed by the sbu. the previous evening , the body of a kiwa was found in a park in one of the cottage towns in the village of suponeve, one. district, the investigative committee of the russian federation has started an investigation into the case, they say that they are working out different versions, the body of the deceased was apparently found in the territory of the park one of the employees of a local hotel.
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kyba's death was reacted to in the international and russian media field, in particular , state media workers and so-called military correspondents and bloggers, especially russian ones, wrote about it. western observers draw attention to the fact that kiva was a frequent guest of russian propaganda programs. less than a month has passed since the lechakiv district court of lviv issued a guilty verdict in the case of the state council politician. according to the court's decision, kyiv was sentenced in absentia to 14 years of imprisonment and confiscation of property under three articles, including high treason. here it is worth reminding that with the beginning of the full-scale invasion, kiva left for russia and became a frequent guest of the state russian television, in march 22, he was deprived of his mandate as a people's deputy of ukraine. during his political career , ilya kiva managed to hold various positions. kyva was a deputy of the ninth convocation from the banning pro-russian party opzh, in the past adviser to the former minister of internal affairs arsen avakov, head of the socialist party of ukraine, even earlier he was the head of the
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anti-narcotics department of the national police, he was also one of the heads of the right sector. kyva distinguished himself with scandalous statements, he justified russian aggression against ukraine, said that the ukrainian people needed liberation, this was a direct quote. andriy yusov, representative of the head office. intelligence, the ministry of defense of ukraine joins our broadcast, mr. andriy, i congratulate you, i congratulate you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, thank you for finding the opportunity to join, please say as of this morning, some additional details of the death of kiva himself may have appeared, the main intelligence agency confirms his death, but perhaps we will dwell on how everything happened, who is involved, that is what is known as of now and from what can be voiced, of course, well, it usually makes no sense to comment in detail on such operations at the moment , of course there will be more information, we state, yes, a state traitor, collaborator, liquidator, a person who was one of the key elements of pro-russian
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propaganda in ukraine in his time, and later, in fact, the person who justified russia's genocide against ukrainians received a fair ukrainian legal sentence, if he had surrendered to the hands of ukrainian justice, he would now be safe and warm. and under the protection of ukrainian law, well, he chose another path, and of course, this is such a wake-up call for other collaborators, they have, and state traitors, war criminals, they have a choice, or wait for justice, which in one way or another will catch up with them on the territory of the russian federation, where it is obviously dangerous, or to surrender to the hands of ukrainian justice. all well, on one detail, i would like to stop, if it can be disclosed, then, of course, regarding the very implementation of this, as you say. special operation , as difficult as it was, kiva was guarded there carefully, carelessly, but from what is actually known about his security on the territory of the russian federation, well, without specifically relating to this
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situation, of course, people who are in the active ring of the russian special services, and kivo was exactly the kind who take an active part in the work of russian propaganda, which is closely related to the activities of the special services aggressor states take care of their security. and actually the aggressor state is trying to help them in one way or another , that's why where he lived recently is in particular an element of his attempts to run away from something and protect himself, that is, it is clear that he was engaged in security. can you call kiva the top propagandist of russian television, actually the state one, did the kremlin bet on his propaganda on what he told on the air, and actually, to what extent does his death weaken this line of propaganda now... from the side of russia? ilya kiva very much fit in organically for the russian zombified audience, that is, he was liked by ordinary russians, this is the image, nominally
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of a person from ukraine, in fact, in their understanding of little russia in novorossia, they were completely satisfied, poorly educated, aggressive, boundlessly devoted to the putin dictator, the kremlin dictator and ready, actually for now... him, so yes, he was definitely a top propagandist among this ukrainian diaspora of collaborators and traitors, the so-called vlabkah, so many elements left there, but they are mostly boring pensioners, such as azarov or yanukovych, but such a cheerful and unreasonable aggressive kiva was really actively involved in russian propaganda. please tell me about other people whom ukraine has officially recognized or considers to be collaborators, traitors. what could threaten them, how work is being carried out in this particular direction regarding them, and here is probably such a short question in this context: the ukrainian side, in general, it has a list
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of those, let's say, who it is watching, let me put this question in such a framework , precisely on the territories of the russian federation, which conduct propaganda activities against ukraine, those who left, for example, the territory of ukraine after a full-scale invasion, but we can start with yesterday's comment by tsarev, who explained in detail that first the list is formed by gur, then it is verified by the sbu, and then it is signed zelensky personally, well, that's how russian propaganda sees it, and we won't confirm it. or deny, ukrainian law enforcement officers are working on proceedings against war criminals, against the state traitors, this is the list, and it also applies to the russian occupiers , traitors, and state traitors, and a fair punishment, one way or another , will find these people, in their interests, so that it happens within the borders of ukraine, within the framework of ukrainian justice, i still wanted i would like
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to ask you about the occupied crimea. not so long ago, the occupation authorities announced an attack by several dozen drones, and mosco of time stated that since the summer, if i am not mistaken, this was the most massive attack by drones in crimea, which was allegedly successful repelled, has the cooperation of the underground on the territory of the occupied crimea with the ukrainian special services intensified now in the context of the actual events that are taking place? which means that the movement of resistance in the temporarily occupied territories has intensified, in particular in crimea, this is an integral component of the resistance of ukraine, the ukrainian people, to the russian invaders, and of course, it acts in close coordination with the help of the ukrainian security and defense forces, and many operations are carried out , the custom is usually carried out together, different from the collection data to direct participation in active activities, that is why the support of the entire population of the occupied territories, in particular all
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participants of the opera movement, is an important... test of our struggle for the liberation of ukrainian lands and the return of our people. and one more question, in conclusion, actually, the winter period has come to ukraine. previously, there were many statements that the russian federation, the military leadership, the actions, in particular , of the russian military, would be aimed at attacking the ukrainian energy infrastructure, including, on such a large scale, perhaps, or on a larger scale than it was last year, now the shahed attack ukraine almost every day, what plans does the russian federation currently have regarding attacks on the territory of ukraine itself, have these plans changed, what do you know, what to expect ? well, on a larger scale, they have for this, at the moment, they simply do not have commensurate resources compared to last year and the beginning of a certain large-scale invasion, the missile reserves of the aggressor were largely depleted, and to this day, those indicators are not restored, but nevertheless, the threat
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remains and we understand... that the peak of the winter period, including the peak of the load on our power grid, is ahead, and this is a serious challenge for the defense security forces of our air and missile defense systems, therefore, the corresponding preparation continues, that is, in essence, the plans have not changed in the russian federation, the plans include an attack on the energy infrastructure, well, we see the continuation of terrorist attacks, both with the combined use of missiles and drones, and drones and missile strikes separately. therefore, this is a process that is already underway now, thank you very much, mr. andriy, andriy yusov, representative of the main intelligence department of the ministry of defense of ukraine, a guest of our broadcast, i thank you for your activity in the chat, it is important for the promotion of quality content, this is the svoboda ranok project, my name is oleg aliev, we see you every morning on the air on our youtube, as well as on the air of the tv channel, so subscribe to the youtube channel of radio liberty, we will hear from you tomorrow, take care!
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