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unfortunately, ukrainians are already used to these sounds, but what about you? well, to be honest, this is not the first time for me, this is the ninth time in two years, that is, this is my ninth time since the full-scale invasion of ukraine by russia. i'm used to it, but it's a shame, it's not something ukrainians should get used to. daily air alarms, air raids, even at sunset. of course, ukrainians are very scary, i don't want to say that i feel in danger or unprotected here, i know that there are ukrainian defenders, that military equipment is also working, that they are in the greatest danger there are people in the east and south of ukraine , but nevertheless, you are under constant stress, you are under constant pressure, and you feel that the war continues, realize that
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many relatives and friends of my friends and our partners in ukraine are suffering, and this it hurts, both for us and for the european parliament, and that is why we must do more. please tell us about the purpose of your train to ukraine. this time we came to the women's congress. my colleague alice bach kunky and i from sweden, together with the henrich björ foundation and. by two ukrainian women's organizations organized a big conference here, which lasted two days. so, it was about the involvement of women, the involvement of women in the reconstruction of ukraine, but also in the progress of european integration, joining the eu. about why it is important to include women in negotiations, why it is important that women have access to funds.
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that we see the active participation of women in the army, in the economy, we see domestic violence, and also, of course , sexual violence inherent in war crimes. so, we discussed all these topics with experts from ukraine, with international experts, with our people. and it was extremely impressive. it really inspired me and i see how strong ukrainian women are, how brave they are, how dedicated they are, it also gives us strength, so we go home with a lot of knowledge and zeal. in addition, we can also share with our colleagues in the european parliament what this particular area looks like in ukraine.
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ukrainians are waiting for an important meeting in brussels. the summit of the european union will take place in mid-december, namely on the 14th december 15. european leaders can make a historic decision to start negotiations with ukraine on joining the european union. but the media write that this is one of the most difficult meetings. including because of hungary's position. what do you think the decision might be, or is there a possibility that it will be delayed until march? well, i would not like to see such a development of events. i think that ukraine deserves it now. the ukrainian people, ukrainian citizens deserve this. my colleagues, ukrainian deputies, worked over legislation. therefore, ukraine has fulfilled all
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the recommendations of the european commission and it is already obvious that the european commission gave the green light and recommended the council of the eu and the european parliament to start the negotiation process. so for us, it's absolutely clear. there is only one obstacle, and this obstacle is viktor orbán, who is trying to blackmail us not for the first time. solutions may vary. of course, orbán plays his national cards. he wants to unfreeze his own money. he did not carry out any reforms in the field of jurisprudence, no internal reforms, reforms in the field of media, electoral reforms. therefore , we were forced to freeze his money. and he wants to unfreeze this money. and uses
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the hungarian minority in ukraine, but this is of no use here, ukraine has no leverage here. of course we could give it away. him some of the money, and then maybe he would change his mind. but i don't think that's the point. he wants to destroy the eu from within. he is putin's man in the european union, and we should seriously think about whether he should be kicked out of the eu, and how to make it so that he did not constantly put obstacles in this game. of course. we can find another solution , for example, through intergovernmental contracts that do not go through the eu mechanisms, but this adds administrative work, so i think that in brussels we would like to avoid this method, but in general, i think that we should not allow orbán to blackmail us and create a threat
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to ukraine. i want to put some emphasis on hungary's position, because you , hungary, also spoke about it. not only blocks the accession of ukraine to the european union, but also blocks aid to ukraine in general. so how can this be countered at the european union level? will there be changes in the organization itself? yes, this is actually the idea, to find a way, as we did, for example, in 2009-10 for greece. at that time, there was a structure in which not every country contributed to financial aid. it would be possible to introduce something similar, but it is certainly not the best option. on the other hand, it is bad, if hungary does not play by the rules, this country has nothing
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to do in the european union, and i think that leaders, heads of state should come up with an action plan for hungary as a whole. but what we should really try to avoid is that ukraine suffers from a hungarian veto, or blockade, and i hope that the brussels summit will find a solution for this particular case. not only ukraine, but also moldova is waiting for this meeting of european leaders in brussels. so, do the european countries have a common position regarding the accession of ukraine and moldova to the european union, because there are only
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two weeks left before the start of the event, or are moldova's prospects better than in ukraine? i don't know if we group these countries together and consider them at the same time. i think hungary has an interest in blocking them both. but he, orban, talks only about ukraine. so i don't know how it intertwines and if there is a chance that ye will start only with moldova. and then we will wait, i don't know what moment, until the end. to start negotiations on kyiv, but i think that the european commission would actually like to approach moldova and ukraine equally, i don't know about the latest, let's say, agreements and compromises that
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may be being prepared, but so far i have heard that they are working on plan b. problem for ukraine. ukrainians have other challenges, such as the blockade on the polish border. the strike of polish carriers blocking the border has been going on for almost three weeks. the polish government has distanced itself from these strikes and says that this issue should be resolved by the european union. are you following this thread? regarding the problem in poland, as you can see, there were elections in mid-october. there is a party, there is a coalition that clearly won, has a majority in the coalition, in the diet, which could propose a new government, but it still not appointed and not included in the agenda of the president. the president does not
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accept this, he insists on the old government, which will never form a majority government. i think that the new government, a pro-european, pro-ukrainian government, would solve the issue of this blockade of truck drivers differently than the old government. and this is a certain problem, so we have a government that is coming to the end of its term, which actually cannot and has no interest in solving this case, while we see that we urgently need to solve it, the people of ukraine suffer, people need to deliver goods to the european union. they want to make money, they need revenue, but instead
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they are blocked there, it's a big problem, i'm not sure how the polish government positions itself, they blame everything on brussels, they point the finger at it, when in fact they are responsible and it is a certain problem. the winter season is a very difficult period for our drivers and for ukrainians in general. last winter we saw russia use energy as a weapon. in particular, she attacked ukrainian power plants with missiles. moscow also threatened the european union with gas issues. how much has the policy of germany and the european union changed in this area after the full-scale russian
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invasion? well, at least there is no longer an official contract with russia. unfortunately, we know that through the global market, the international market, there are certain volumes of gas coming from russia. but officially we don't get any anymore. some countries that import from russia, such as hungary, austria, i don't know, one or two others, but we are really trying to reduce our imports of fossil fuels and resources from russia. it is absolutely clear that we cannot finance russia's bloody war against ukraine, russia's aggressive war, russian genocide against ukrainians. so most politicians in germany are very well aware of this, and that is
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why, at least last winter, many people were forced to pay significantly higher prices for gas and electricity. now internationally, prices have come down again, that's fine, but we have to increase our renewable energy sources, make sure that our electricity does not depend on... the import of russian gas. and now it is certainly not quite so. we all need a lot of gas, but we no longer buy it from russia. viola, i want to go back to some of your words. in one of the interviews, you talked about supporting ukraine. weapons and money, nothing else matters today. the ukrainian authorities say almost the same thing: how do you assess the supply of weapons to ukraine today?
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a few months ago, we promised that we would provide ukraine with 1 million ammunitions, but we haven't even reached the limit of 250-300. that is, we have only one of what was promised. and ukraine needs a lot. and russia is increasing its production, increasing its capacities. we know she has missiles, ammunition, artillery, tanks, everything, and we still act like there's no war, and that's the problem. yes, compared to many other countries, germany has provided some equipment, indeed it is more than expected, but it is still not enough. and we have to make sure that ukraine can win this war, we have to
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make sure that you will be successful in counterattack, and for that you need a lot more long-range weapons, you need a lot more offensive weapons, you need a lot more tanks, and so on. zaluzhny wrote an article, he gave an interview to an economist, everything is already known, so we need technology, we need information technology, we need... more modern drones, cheap drones that the russians are now producing and so on. so, everything is known, we need to adapt faster. our industry must maintain these necessary fast processes certification of this equipment and so on and so on. every time i talk to people involved in this process, they say, this is how it's going to happen, this is how we 're working on it, but we're too slow.
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european leaders have said many times that the war blocked ukraine's membership in the european union. and also in nato, how do you assess ukraine's chances of joining nato, is there perhaps an alternative to membership? at the moment it is difficult to say, unfortunately, we do not see a consensus among nato countries, on the one hand it is again hungary and turkey. who strongly oppose it but i also see that chancellor and president biden do not support it, and that is the problem. they established the ukraine nato council, it's better than nothing, but it has no real impact on security, for membership we
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need more security guarantees, we need more commitments. we need to make sure that in the event that there is political will of russia to start negotiations, there should be a plan, a concept that will be accepted by nato countries, how to provide and ensure security for ukraine at this moment, there are already some things on paper, but i don't think , that there are any commitments from various nato members. and here i think we need greater political pressure from various political players, of course, from ukraine, but also from civil society in our countries.
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the problem is that people still do not understand that if there is no peace and stability in ukraine, it will threaten ours as well. if ukraine does not succeed, it will affect us as well. next could be moldova, georgia, armenia, the baltic states, we don't know, but russia will get an incentive if ukraine doesn't beat russia. with the beginning full-scale russian invasion, ukraine's allies provided our country with a lot of help. germany officially accepted the largest number of ukrainian refugees among other european union countries, more than
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150,000 people. how does the country cope with this? i don't know the exact number at the moment, but that's how we have to find the right balance. must support ukrainians, absolutely. but we also need to be less bureaucratic, so we need to open up the labor market. those people who can work, who would like to work, they need permission to get or find work. so far it's a bit tricky and i guess it remains to be seen how the new legislation will work. i mean, in some
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parts, unfortunately, support for ukrainian refugees, ukrainian migrants has decreased, in some parts there is really a very negative atmosphere, and we have to actively convince our people why we should help ukrainians, why the suffering of the war, maybe lead to more refugees from ukraine if russia attacks infrastructure. if russia will be more successful and occupies a larger territory. therefore, everything is possible, and we need more opportunities for this. i hope this will not happen, but just in case ukrainians need it. i think that germany should be ready for this, yes,
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i want to make a certain emphasis, because you are a person from the german side who deals with shelters in lviv and verkhovyna for ukrainians who have suffered from this war, how exactly do you help? in western saxony. now we have created a partnership for the sake of solidarity with verkhovyna and our native community. so we try at least send some practical things that are needed. last winter, we provided humanitarian transport. i hope we can invite next year as well. children to our native community, to our native city, to hold a youth camp there and so on. it's not much, but it helps. and of course,
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we are also in touch with the shelter project, where we are trying to find funding partners. we try to train those people who run the shelter, conduct courses there and the like. i think it is very important that the affected idps fleeing the war and were traumatized, could find a new perspective so that they could be rehabilitated, so that they could recover and rest, and for that the shelter project is very , very helpful. at the beginning of our interview , did you... mention the purpose of your visit to ukraine? please tell us what other projects you plan to implement in lviv in the near future. i am a politician in the european
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parliament, so i do not have a specific project in the region. but it is absolutely obvious to me that lviv is a very strong city because it has a very active civil society. but people also wear out with time, the war goes on, time goes by, winter is coming, so i see that the german federal government is doing a lot for the twin cities. freiburg and lviv are sister cities, we know that money from the local level goes to lviv to support citizens. this is definitely important. also, as i said, we really try to pay attention to the needs of women.
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that is why we continue to focus our attention on women. we wanted to see women on the negotiating teams, so i'm focusing on mine attention to this in the political sector. what else can you say about the attitude towards ukrainians in the european union and europe in general? ukraine would be of great value to the eu. we see a lot of young, very well-educated people. we see that even before the war there was close cooperation with it companies and others. sectors where especially people from ukraine made a great contribution. we see that there is now a lot of
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interest in the rebuilding phase. we have to make sure that we bring in those people who were forced to leave the country, train them, train them and then involve them in the reconstruction, i mean, if they want, of course, i would never force anyone, we have to give them the opportunity to come back, or maybe partially come back. and this is a good, let's say, bridge. if ukraine becomes a member of the european union, we need people who understand the system here, who speak the language, and so it is in our interests to provide employment opportunities in our home countries, but also to make sure that if people want to return, they will have a good among. make sure that the schools are rebuilt, modern schools with new textbooks, that there are good hospitals, children's hospitals.
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gardens, that is, infrastructure for people in their cities, in their local communities, and this is in our interests, we want a good, strong , sustainable, stable ukraine, not only in big cities, but also in the countryside, this is in our interests, and i i see that many of my ukrainian friends have the same, let's say , interests and ideas, viola, thank you very much. to you for this interview and your personal support for ukraine. thank you very much for inviting me, me it is always a pleasure to be your guest. i would like to remind you that today we spoke on the air of telekaluso with viola von kramon, a member of the european parliament, deputy head of the delegation of the parliamentary committee of the ukraine-eu association. stay with us.
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the toilet is downstairs, where is he , and if there are no cigarettes, then what will you smoke, he says, well, if there are no cigarettes, then he will smoke silrada, how much time do you need, then you need 10 days, 10 days, black people, here what do you have god, please drink. and tomorrow fly your
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sunny waist. mykola, don't spill blood wedding night, let's go, where, there, come on, chair, there is a war going on, and not only for territories, a war
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for minds, we engage in propaganda. russia is throwing millions of petrodollars into turning ukrainians into little russians. ukraine will become countering russian information attacks in the chronicles of information war project with olga ley. monday, tuesday, thursday at 17:15 on the espresso tv channel. it's 5 p.m. in ukraine, to your attention a news release on the espresso tv channel. in the studio of iryna koval. greetings to all viewers. on the avdiiv direction, the russian occupiers are pressing from everyone sides and are looking for weak points in the defense of the armed forces of ukraine. the enemy began
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to use all the equipment they had, officer 50 informed us.

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