we have different fighters in the department , that is, bi-amputees, these are fighters without, without limbs, without eyes, without, well, with various pathologies, and it is not easy, here, but what particularly struck me every day was their absolute stability and a smile and the understanding that everything will be right with me in the future. cool, i 'm being treated, some of them definitely thought that she would go to the front, that's why everyone who was involved was very happy to be in this process, well, i think, not only about physical rehabilitation, there it is very important to provide moral support to soldiers in the hospital, it used to be that you just came and they wanted to talk, to tell something, of course, it was different, especially... uh, when there were

explosions, there were several days of explosions uh near the hospital, uh, and they at night it heard a lot, and after that in the morning we had hard work and medical and medical personnel of various kinds, because some fighters, especially those who recently arrived from the front, were recently wounded, they reacted very sharply to this, to the point that someone was packing and saying: "i'm leaving the department today, i have to be with my boys, i can't be here just lie down, they hear it all the time, and they are under these explosions, and yes, the main job is at such moments, it is to talk, it is even sometimes we used such things, we took one fighter who is friends with another on another floor, and sat together, talked, supported, because well..." at such moments

you come out of the situation in a completely different way, the main thing is to help a person here and now. well , of course, that is, all doctors also work as psychologists, not only in their main specialty , because it seems to me that this is the most important thing for our soldiers right now, who are restored and about frida's mission, how did it happen in your life in general? this story is from april 22, when i saw roman goldman on facebook before... he is our ideologue, one of the ideologues of our project, he is an israeli, he has been working for 15 years, how israel-ukraine has been working in the medical sector, and he is on the beginning of the war was in ukraine, at first they were engaged in helping to evacuate jews abroad, those who wanted, and he saw the situation at... the border such that there are

a lot of people, especially women with children, who are leaving, cold, few people days on the move in constant such tension, and they needed help of various kinds, yes, such a variety, let's say specifics, and the first thing is primary care, and then he created the first groups of doctors, they were mainly from israel. who made such camps on the moldova-ukraine border, that is where they helped the displaced people as much as they could at that time, and upon arriving in kyiv, he realized that such help would probably be needed in all territories, especially now in the de-occupied territories, and this was chernihiv region, the first de-occupation , chernihiv region, kyiv region, and he wrote on facebook, that the doctors who now have the opportunity

to help, let's form teams together and go to the de-occupied territories, i responded to this post and after a few days we went on our first trip to the chernihiv region, we had literally several doctors and one a nurse, and that's how our typical freudian days began, what kind of trip was it, what did you do there and in general, how did people react, well, we... understand that after all, people are in the villages, you went to the village, right , the first trip was, these were villages, they were frankly not used to a large number of doctors in their village, as a rule there is a paramedic station and that's it, a whole team came here, a lot of medicines, how did they react? well, i will say something in advance, in general , during these almost two years of our activity, i realized that people... people in completely different

regions need a completely different approach and all this depends on, firstly, the medicine that existed before the war, the second time in the occupation, and of course what it was. occupation, what military operations were there, and therefore approaches to provision assistance to these people will be very different, at that time we understand that there was an occupation for about a month, and people, well, we did not have many medicines and equipment at that time, there were several doctors, i was a gastroenterologist, an endocrinologist, a cardiologist, absolutely everything she could, and we had a small, small box with... that's all, that is, basically, at that moment people needed something to talk about, to tell what happened to them during that month, this is the first part of the consultation, and the second part of the consultation is still the same to pay attention to what is troubling, to what medicines should be taken, to help with them,

if possible, and to try to return the person to his usual course, in this, in principle, there was such a thing... it is necessary at that moment, and after returning already from leaving, it was several days, at that time we were in three villages, and in two days we traveled, i realized that i probably need to expand the team, because i, of course, am a therapist and i can do various, various consultations there, but i want it to be professional, and i probably also need a cardiologist, i will call my cardiologist friend, yes , what is he doing there, and it turned out that we... very, very quickly began to grow, and after, let's say, a few months, it was already a team of 200 doctors, volunteers, ugh , like you, you immediately led the team correctly, you were suggested by roman, probably, to do it, because you were one of the first, yes,

it, it was not immediately, here, let's you be the leader, it was so that people got together for one idea, we just did something every day. they made medicine, looked for it, thought about it it is still necessary, that is, as a small team , we tried to make our work more complete and high-quality, as we could do it at that time, and probably already in the summer roman said that you see how much there is a need and how much we are able to meet this need , well, let's say so, to close, to satisfy, because... doctors, i will definitely tell about them somehow separately, yes, today, because they are generally amazing people, and they want, there is a need, so it is necessary to do so, and i did it so that these two things coincided and

turned out very correctly and effectively, and yes roman offered to manage this process, and well, it was a... let's say, it was not easy to understand that you now bear a very serious responsibility, because these two components are not for a month, and it must be done and done qualitatively, ugh , so what is the wonder, let’s talk about it now, and the wonder, first of all, is that now there are almost 700 volunteer doctors all over ukraine, and they are not only ukrainian doctors, that is, we are joined by doctors from different parts of the world, only yesterday we hugged and escorted our doctor from america, and what a girl she flew in for two weeks in order to be with us, to volunteer to be on trips , to help, to give lectures, and everything is so

voluminous and interesting, and all these months, and the doctors live as follows: they work 5 days a week. at their workplaces, whether in kyiv, or in odesa, or in kharkiv, or in kramatorsk, on friday evening, they get on a train somewhere, in some part of ukraine, ah, and go away, yes, saturday , sunday, such work non-stop, in a bulletproof vest, at the cash register, if, uh, with a phonoscope, yes, if the situation requires it, they give themselves to... 250% from morning to evening and return in the morning at 6 in the morning to kyiv or wherever and go to their work and get a huge amount of it, well, pleasure is the wrong word here, but they understand that it is the right thing to do as much as possible

here and now, and in a week, two or three , i will definitely go again, this is what happens during all this time, and the doctors who were with us at the beginning, they... are with us the whole time, yes, all of them, all these months, and they came themselves, responded, did not force anyone, yes, of course, of course no one forced, this is absolute volunteering. and such stories, you know , they amaze me every day, that is, i talk a lot with different doctors, and these are doctors, these are professors, these are the heads of departments, these are the best doctors in their specialty in ukraine. i don't know, for weeks, for months ahead, and these doctors , completely removing any regalia, sit down next to a young doctor, even with a... student, go, teach, treat and, well,

do a huge job even in the psychological condition, but you said about it regarding the military, i see this in our work, i also divide it into two parts: the first part is medical, of course, to do what we do as professionally as possible, and to treat, with equipment, with medicines, with the laboratory, yes, to do everything , in order to provide the person with the most correct recommendations, and the second part is to convey to this person whether he is in lemman, whether it is kherson, whether it is the kharkiv region, cossack lopan 3 km from the border, to show that you are not alone here, and we are you with this team, and we will come again, and we will hug, and we will hold... by the hand, and this, this is the most important thing. were there stories that

you still can't forget, people who told you during receptions on these trips? well, there were many such stories, and unfortunately , they are and they will be, because absolutely everything is destroyed, there are many such stories, in some, about some stories i say less, about some more, probably always, you know, such more are mentioned disturbing, let's say, locations, this is, for example, bahmud, we have been there three times, and in any case, every story there will be just like that, especially this, of course, those stories that involve children, and the children were there, and we tried to do everything in our power as much as possible to prove to the relatives that let's take you, let's take you together, let's we will do something... if you weren't here, if these children hadn't been sitting

in the bomb shelter for 8 months, we went with you, we managed to bring out several families under, well, there really was a need for hospitalization and medical assistance and under such a package, well, here are 50 for 50, yes, it is, well, it had to be done and it was possible, but of course it's crumbs. because there were a lot of people, children, and why didn't the parents let the children go, how did they argue that they should stay under fire in the basement? eh, well, you know, the arguments were that they would wait, and they couldn't leave their walls there, although they didn't live in their houses anymore, of course, financially , that nobody was waiting for them anywhere, and they didn't have will be able to rent housing, although of course... we have shelters in different parts of ukraine, there are places where they are taken, where

they are cared for, and we even provided such opportunity, tied these people together, but such , you know, despair in their ability and strength, did not give them the opportunity to go, that's why these were the things that did not leave us and we followed these children, and unfortunately, we saw . well, some news and tapes followed that many of these children were then taken to russia. yes, unfortunately, we know a lot of cases when simply russians openly stole our children from the occupied territories. about diseases, you said that it was very important psychologically to provide help to these people, but, i think, in them diseases got worse because they lived in basements all the time, right? not only. let's say basement diseases were there? look, in principle

, we encounter a lot of different things in such territories, such as the decompensation of our chronic diseases, diabetes, hypertension, due to the fact that there is no access to medicines, this is firstly, secondly, already at that moment people think about other, about how to survive today, how to eat something today, how to find water somewhere, yes, that is, they don't... they don't think about the fact that now they have a pressure of 220 on 100, or whatever, they will not think about it, and our task was also, i somehow at least ... you know, to give these drugs and give the person an understanding of stability, yes, do it every day, please, and with we have a lot to do with this, also in such locations, this is such a mini-invasive minimal surgery, because it is suppuration of various inflammatory processes,

yes, and here we helped as much as we could, provided medicines, made dressings, made these mini ... winter interventions, that’s why you can say, and this is all in bomb shelters, in the basements of front-line cities, yes, we, we are used to to any, any location, wherever we accept, deploy our mini such a hospital, somewhere it looks more classic, somewhere it is a school, somewhere it is a kindergarten, somewhere it is an ordinary bomb shelter, but we will always find a place where we we will do an ultrasound where the gynecologist. will look and talk with women, where the urologist will talk with men, and where there will be some other consultations, where the ophthalmologist will help pick up glasses and provide them, that is, you already know, every doctor, coming to the location, quickly searches, sits down with his box medicines, and are already used to it

, that you have to adapt, that's how we ukrainians are, yes, we are very quick to everything. you not only manage and coordinate all these hundreds of doctors, and you go on trips yourself, but what does it give you personally, well we understand what it does to people, how do you help, why do you do it, you don't get paid for it, and you waste time that you could spend with your loved ones, basically, frida is an organization that is very... already correctly, vividly demonstrates the essence of volunteering, yes, because we have it, you know, massively, chaotically arose volunteering in in ukraine, and not from the best life, we understand that everyone somehow became a volunteer, here, but all over the world it has been a long time, and this is a culture, and every person, she, this is me,

you can say prestigiously, or simply say that this is the norm . that every person gives some time to another person, to an organization and to something, well, something right, on our example, you can see how a person gives something, and will receive much more, that is, we think so, and this is our permanent opinion, it is somehow not for anyone imposed, not read anywhere, it is so, yes, that is, we waste our time, and the truth could be rested. go about your business, but every doctor takes much more, because there are several components here, the first component, we all know that doctors are in military service, that is, there is always this opinion, and why am i not there, yes, what does some doctor have to be there under the explosions, to provide help , and i don't do that, that's the first thing, the second

thing is that, well, doctors are such people, if they are real doctors by ... that vocation, they are always on the way to something that can be done more , do it from the heart and maybe it's to do what she cannot make a worker at her place, yes, because there are different situations , and here in frida it is possible, and i mean literally , you know, yesterday doctors from kharkiv region and kherson region returned to us, it was a trip of 30 doctors. in several teams, they came back in the morning and went to work , and we have separate departure chats, and everyone writes, this is generally a separate one, a separate time, for a few minutes to see the impressions of the doctors after the departure, and everyone has to write that it is, well , in general, thank you so much for making

the team, it was, it was great, i'm sobbing, me i'm already waiting for the next departure. someone says: i came to work and i should have fallen, i should have put all my patients to sleep, but i have such a smile, my colleagues just ask me what did you do on the weekend, that you just fly with a smile and you know what kind what kind of direct charge goes on to do, to help, and well , maybe it is not clear for someone, i know people for whom it is unclear, but for... somehow it is so black and white, i know that it is soothing, also your colleague svitlana swichkar, an endocrinologist from the frieda mission, as well she came to visit and told that she felt calmer somewhere in... than here in kyiv during the anxiety? yes, svitlana is also one of the doctors who was there practically at the very beginning, and this is demonstrated, for example, by

such a story of svitlana, well, how can it be transferred to other doctors a little, the doctors at frida, they do not necessarily have a month, or several times a month to leave, to be under some... rubble, under explosions, no, we are a family, and we involve absolutely everyone who has this desire to improve, to turn things over a little the medical world in ukraine, because we know that there is such an old school, and there is a new school, and we really want doctors, young people, students, doctors of all ages to feel that they are cool, that they, that ukraine needs them here and now and especially in need of their improvement, and therefore in this regard we have the second part

of our work - this is training, these are trainings, lectures, master classes for doctors, students separately, and there are doctors, for example, who now have a lot work, family circumstances, they cannot leave, but they are always with us, they will come to the lecture, they will support us online when... there is a difficult patient and they will say, i will consult, of course, all this is free of charge, i will help, i will take care of him in the hospital, and svetlana is just one of those doctors, and if something comes out somewhere to get rid of this pile of work , they are sure to break out, but we always say that it is not necessary, to leave and be always on the road, you can be in frida in different ways, you said about training, who teaches doctors, i know that many professors of medical luminaries from abroad, including from israel, come to us

almost every month a new speaker comes, they come for some time for two, three or four weeks and go on trips with us and hold lectures, master classes, this is what is interesting, separately we do it for students, and separately we do it for doctors, what they are interested in, we hold separate meetings where we can exchange experience, because it is our firm opinion that a ukrainian doctor is no worse, and this is the opinion of all doctors from any country, yes, we have problems, there are various problems , yes, but we always want to learn and we will gladly accept a doctor from any country and we will listen, and like sponges, we will take in a lot for ourselves, we will take in a lot for ourselves, so it is about training doctors from israel, from ecuador, from america, from germany, who come to us, teach, and we also do not forget about

our doctors , who have, you know, such a desire, we have, for example, from the last one a doctor, a surgeon, an oncologist from the regional hospital, this is oleg kirsenko, who said, having met the students on one of the trips, we always... take several students , it is the most interesting thing for them to be involved in medicine, and seeing their enthusiasm, he said, let me conduct several master classes on primary surgical treatment of the wound, on primary sutures, well, something so basic, but sometimes there will be little practice at the university, and you won’t get it all that way and we won’t give you points for that, yes and that's why our office... you know, in an hour it turns into such a training class, where there are a bunch of tables and a bunch of bananas, and on bananas, on bananas, everyone

beautifully embroiders patterns, learns how to tie on bananas, that's how you can - different, but our doctor decided to do just that, so different training for different people specialists and we want to support and make such a contribution for everyone, some positive from our activity, there is such an opinion that soon ukrainian doctors will go abroad to study after gaining such military experience, especially to our military doctors, but really, i don’t know where now there are military surgeons of this level in the world who have. as much experience as ours, unfortunately it is, but it is really true, you have now mentioned your trips, there is one

that is the most difficult? was from your mission trips frida, maybe this is not about the shelling, but more about some kind of moral devastation after it, and about moral devastation, here we don’t allow ourselves to do it, somehow it already turned out like that, the only dissonance is so very serious, when you come to kyiv, ugh, that is, you are coming to kyiv. you see all this and you do not understand at all how it can be in one country, and here you cannot say that it is positive or negative, we are all developing, moving forward every day in order to make things better in something and at the front, but it's a very, very different situation, and you just at such a moment you realize that you will go there again, because there is nothing there at all, that is, most of our locations are

where there is no medicine at all, people and people are just by themselves, and they, they wait, they, yes, from 5 o'clock in the morning they take up the queue, although we ask them not to do it, if we talk about some difficult trip, it seems to me that the last thing that comes to my mind is the situation in akagovka, this, kherson oblast, and there was such a complex story, i.e. when it just started, well, we realized on tuesday morning, what is there, there is such news , what is happening there now, i was already waiting for roman and mark, mark nevayashky, this is our second ideologue from israel, i was just waiting for a call, the authorities , where are we going, when, yes, now, in an hour , here, because all such locations, they go first with the team, and literally on the second day we gathered, but we gathered only...

a small command of those people, well, that is , me, they, the ambulance driver, and basically that's it all because we could not afford to take doctors, not knowing where, we did not know what was there is happening because, starting from the military administration to the health department, there was no clear information, that is, that much, and it is normal, no country is prepared for this, no system, and even more so when it is a day, two days. but we were in contact and we gave information that we are ready, we have ambulances, equipped, we have intensive care doctors who can evacuate, we have doctors who can provide help here and now, that is, we are there , we put our shoulder, we sat down, we went such a small team, and on the shipyard, if you remember, these were the first explosions in places where the thief... became people,

yes, that is, this is a picture in general, we were allowed there, because yes, you understood, here he is a doctor , it’s an ambulance and we need to get there, and the ambulance didn’t stop, well, that is , we only picked up one person, took him to the hospital, as roman called me and said, the authorities are here , well, don’t stop anywhere, there is already the next, next person, she needs help, although we were there with the red cross, with the municipal organization an ambulance, but there were a lot of people, and i was right near the water below when the first explosion into the water happened, if you remember, if it had not been into the water, then it was very close, it just hit us, drops hit water and further explosions have already begun, and well , the story continued to develop very, very rapidly.

in principle, everyone left, the civilians , we remained, the military and all, and the police, in fact, all the volunteers, all the doctors, they immediately left, and that’s right, we still provided help there on the spot, but it was more psychological support, because at such a moment, anyone , a member of the state emergency service, a military officer, a policeman, a volunteer, there were people who, well, had a panic... attack, and our support was needed there, and we could not get anywhere , that is, they did not allow us, they broke the windows in the minus first floor of some building, and we all hid there, and this was the first day, after about 3 hours we were able to get out of there, on the second day we were faced with practically the same situation, but at a different point , our doctors also joined us.