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integrated into the ukrainian government, he did it not directly, he did it covertly for quite a long time, he actually openly sided with russia when he decided that it was already safe, that it was already a matter of russia finally, as he believed , will openly take over ukraine, and the fact that he fled from the territory of ukraine before the invasion says that , for example, he was told what would happen in this invasion. well, unlike, for example, several of his, well, the same people as him, who were in his own party, in the opzh faction, you don't forget that he ran away and overturned when he was still a deputy of the verkhovna rada from the opszh, not all deputies did that, some of them simply did not know that there would be an invasion, but kiva knew, this means that trust in him was much bigger , something was expected from him, well, much more, he was supposed to be among those people who would seize... in ukraine
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after the russians come here, and despite this, he died and that's all, the earth is glassy, ​​that is, in reality, a person who worked for them is treated like a there is no need and this is the right attitude, because they are all treated this way, we also treat them like that, we are just talking in the context of the results of the week, since it is clear that kiva was such a figure that caused... emotions, a lot of negative emotions, he openly worked for moscow even at a time when putin actually did not come to ukraine, so it must be said here that kyiv is the character that demands to be talked about and forgotten and also said, land you are glassy, ​​maryna, i know you are quite active and they took apart... literally, well
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, figuratively, literally and figuratively, because you made many broadcasts and talked about kiva, and it is clear that kiva was such a character who succumbed to this, well, one can describe his role there somehow , i don’t know if it is possible to compare him with zhirinovsky or with some such characters of russian politics, but what do you think this diaspora of traitors lost or what did it gain with the murder of kiva, that is, there are hundreds or thousands of them there people that they are now there they are sitting, shaking, afraid that they will be shot at, or that they will be killed somewhere around a corner, because they all also collaborate with putin, and they all appear on propaganda channels and they all pour mud on ukraine, and now you... it seems
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that you can go to some closed town and just get a tip very quickly, an influential and objectively intelligent collaborator, a traitor, like, for example, andriy portnov, volodymyr sivkovich, bryty klyuevy, that is, this person was absolutely not the right intellectual impact, neither moral, even why he interested them. i mean the russian federation at the time, well , let's not forget that after 2014, through the efforts of, including the former head of the ministry of internal affairs, mr. arsen avakov, in kyiv, they made enough media recognition, he occupied not the last place in such a power structure as the ministry of internal affairs , even managed the department of combating narcotics crime, he even had an episode when he was there... was one of
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the top leaders of a kind of battalion in poltava, although you can find a number of videos, to things on youtube, how the fighters of this battalion said from the very start that they were not satisfied with such a person, he objectively does not have any command skills, and they would not want to go on combat missions with such a person, but nevertheless they promoted him, and it seems to me that at a certain time from these media and career successes... kyva lost his sense of reality and decided to simply earn money, and the best way to earn money is to go to the pro-russian forces and work with them, and here at kyva with this is how the opz mandate appeared, and for some reason the russian side decided that kiva is a very popular character who is often played on tv, and if your face is often shown on tv on...
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medvedchuk's channels, he was always a speaker, it means that all of ukraine believes in just such ideas that circulated on the medvachuk channel. in fact, he played an absolutely wrong card, i... i am sure that if he had stayed there in the conditionally pro-ukrainian field, he would have had some reputation, would have had some career, and maybe now he would be some kind of star there, and the current full-scale war, this is the one, to thing, the case when greed did not lead a person to good at all, but led to the fact that he was shot in some village of suponiv, odyansovsky district of the moscow region, this is really a very revealing story, and i am glad that such... scoundrels like alexander chilinka decided that it is quite possible that they will come as well. well, i think that oleg tsarev also thinks the same, who, by the way, last month they tried to kill, well, if you believe the russian propaganda
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channels in crimea, and now he is not, that russia has tamed all these fugitives, and now must somehow protect them. let's listen to what the king said. i'm watching, now many people are putting up posts, recalling russophobic statements, kiev and the like, well, if he was like that, then in general, i don't feel sorry for him, but it 's not about kiev, it's about whatever he was , many were not happy with the fact that he was accepted by russia, when he was accepted into the ranks of the opzh. based on his past, but already if they accepted, then russia is responsible for his security, don't write about the fact that we don't really feel sorry for him, so that's okay, not okay, it shouldn't be like that. oleksiy, kiva - this was
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one of those who recently joined medvedchuk's company, or medvedchuk's gang, which was called the opposition platform for life. and in ukraine, there are a lot of people left who were part of opzh and continue to work both in the parliament and in councils of various levels, i looked at the local councils of opzh, they took, it seems, more than 400 seats in various different levels of councils, what do you think , or whether these people can be considered collaborators or traitors, or people who were elected by a party that already officially banned in ukraine. and they still continue to rule in ukraine, that is, they write laws, vote for laws, deal with the distribution of land, decide the issue of local self-government, the budget there, so what to do with all this?
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well, the fact is that there is not only opzzh, but on the other hand, look at who was... recruited into opzzh, well, in fact, kiva was a completely created media character, and well, if he did not fit into some this turn, then he could well end up in some other party, which would not be considered pro-russian, in fact, the minister of internal affairs was already mentioned here, and not only pro-russian forces were under his supervision. it seems to me that the majority of people in these organizations are recruited according to a completely different principle, there are no people there who are, well , i don’t know, ideological supporters of the opz, although
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it seems to me that it is generally difficult to understand what the ideology is there , therefore it is necessary to approach the fact that people, if this party were banned, then it is not clear what these people are doing. in those councils or in the parliament, well, in the local councils, fortunately, there are no laws for us accepted, but this is the first question , which concerns their cooperation with the enemy, then it is necessary to approach it individually, because there are people, who are not many, but who behaved quite patriotically, and that is, they should be held accountable only because they once were in some party, well... at least there is no legal basis for this, as far as these figures are concerned, well, the tsarevs, you have now shown, there is zhoga, mentioned, who nominates putin there, well, it seems to me that this is just an indicator of where they are going in general all
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rolled down, as they say to mice, i don't think that kiva was some kind of deeply conspiratorial agent who was there to influence something... he couldn't influence, he is again completely a character created artificially, and actually, even to the ranks of the opzsh he was summoned by this desire even, well, i don't know how he craved it. not greedy, that is also possible, but this is the desire to be, to be in front of the cameras, and it seems to me that even the fact that the russians accepted them and him, and tsarev, and several other characters who actually have nothing serious behind them , means that the russians simply also bought into this thing, they thought that if people were shining on ukrainian tv screens, then they could influence something, but in reality... the media recognition is so good, it is quite
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confusing, and i don't think that in general, when the reports appeared that kyiv's body had been found, my first questions were , was someone looking for him, who needed him, well , a body was found, it was reported by russian propagandists, god knew, maybe, maybe her body is not there, in fact, this is also a question, olya has, has comments on what you said... and i think that we generally have enough, you know, there is such a somewhat frivolous attitude towards russian agents in ukraine, and unfortunately, there are practically no journalistic studies, for some reason journalistic investigative journalism does not work in this direction, and it 's very bad, because the same kiva is an example of an agent, and not a media character behind which there is nothing, let 's not be, you know... really , people created such pink ponies combat
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brigades, which have a lot of people, which, well possessed weapons, organized bandits , then some attacks, and actually they still carry out sabotage on the territory of ukraine, carry out, work as gunners, just like, by the way, another party of sharyai, which works exactly like that, for some reason you did not notice that regularly ... saboteurs and gunners who either belong to the opz party, or to the sheriya party, or , for example, to the socialist party of kiva, or to those units that kiva created combat groups, you think that these are all some kind of random coincidences, so it just happened that these people gathered together, i will also remind you, i will also remind you that, for example, such a beautiful character as kyril stremeusov, he was a member of the socialist party. party, just at the time when kyiv bought out the socialist party and began to develop it,
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it is also a coincidence that the people who are in the kherson region turned out to be the people who most supported the russians there and were directly in their structures, for some reason it turned out that this kiva's structure, and you think it's just a media character, no, no, it's not media characters, it's people who worked quite systematically, who... were given money for this work, and this, this money was russian money, but simply for some reason, i say, we have a very frivolous attitude to all this, we believe that there were three attempts on kiev , he was running away from them, that is, one attempt was in the middle of moscow, in general, he barely got out of it, he was constantly looking for a way to hide even more, well somehow, his, by the way, there, well, a woman with... he lived together, she said that he even took off his stubble, he specifically went to the forest so that he wouldn't
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it was possible to find out where he was at all, because he was terribly afraid, he knew that he would be searched for and that he was being searched for and that he would definitely be killed, and this, i think, not for nothing, but simply because maybe those who were looking for him know a little more than we do about this whole story, thank you, oleksii, please, and i... i would still like to note that in fact i continue to claim that kiva is a media character, and the organizer of these detachments, there were completely different people in this network, and these people are known to us, this is, first of all, actually medvedchuk, well we exchanged medvedchuk, so to speak, and perhaps we exchanged him correctly, because the people for whom he was exchanged are more valuable to ukraine. although there are still such questions, but there is, for example, yuri boyko, who has not gone anywhere
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, neither to moscow, nor anywhere, he is the official head of this organization, and it seems to me that there should be more questions to him than to kyiv. no one disputes this, just one trailer, please, briefly, because we have to have advertising there, that's right, ms. olya named a number of characters there, both the sharia party and the socialist party the party and others, that's all. people who financed various baskets of the russian federation, and when we mention the socialist party there, and we had such a wonderful party formation, a union of left forces, and i think that... we should also mention such a character as vasiliy volga. this was a direct russian agent who had direct access to the girls of ukraine. this person was obviously more embedded in the russian system and collaborative movements on the territory of ukraine than this media pun, which ended, well, as is standard for such traitors. well, we will
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to hope that vasyl volga also , he, he... sat somewhere in prison, and i don't know for sure what happened to him now, but let's hope that he will also be responsible for what kiev was responsible for. after a short break , we'll be back to our conversation, just a minute break, and we'll be back on the air. problems with the joints limit movement, it is unpleasant and painful. strengthen them with the help of long joints. these are bags with collagen and vitamin c to restore articular cartilage. dolgit joints contributes to normal functioning of joints and has a positive effect on bone health. dolgit joints facilitates motor functions. stretch your joints, move freely. damn, stepladders, my legs can't walk anymore.
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rudenko, we continue our conversation with our guests, journalists, with olga len, marina... during our program, we ask you, dear friends, whether you think putin will become the next president of russia, because today he announced that he will run for the position of the head of the russian state on the fifth, if you vote on youtube, everything is quite simple there, yes, no, or your comment, please write under the video, do not forget to put like this video, and if you are sitting in front of the tv, pick up your phone or smartphone. and vote on the number if you think putin will be the next president of russia 0.800 211 381 no 0.800 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote, well, we are talking about the fifth, are we asking you about putin's fifth presidency, whether he will become
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or not, whether his health will improve, whether he will live or not, well something like that. at the same time, we are also talking about a possible second presidential term of volodymyr zelenskyi, because judging by the publications that appeared in the press in the ukrainian press over the past week, it was clear that the presidential team is rating potential candidates for the position of president of ukraine, and this actually became the reason political, apparently torpedoing of the head of the armed forces of ukraine. valery zaluzhnyi, well , at least in the publication on ukrainian pravda , the data of closed polls, ratings and ratings of zelenskyi and the head committee were made public. olya, can you explain, uh, why president zelenskyy wants to become
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president for the second time, because judging by the way they measure and rank candidates, it's absolutely obvious that he wants to. to be the president, i.e. why does he not want to become, conditionally speaking, the president of the victory of ukraine, but also wants to be the president of the restoration of ukraine with all the consequences that simply follow from this, well, in fact, it is not surprising that he wants to become president again while in this position, i don't remember someone who was in the position of president suddenly not wanted to go for a second term , but there was no such case in our history, so we proceed from the fact that for some reason people like it there and everything is good for them, here another simple question is that why are they... so short-sighted that they do not understand what, for them, is the question of elections and successful elections
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in essence, the question is whether the war will be won or not, and there will be some incomprehensible agreements, well, they could already see it literally on the example of the predecessor, what happens when suddenly everything freezes and some incomprehensible processes begin, well... nothing else they don't get, they get the same, well you mean there won't be a peaceful, well, political pension, if they think that now somehow there are some agreements and we'll go to recovery after that, no it won't be, that's it well, this mistake was already made once, and it didn't lead to anything , well, that is, instead of trying to really put all our efforts into... winning the war, looking for some loopholes to go right away, let's, you know, make a montage, we won't win the war, but we'll move on to later recovery
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and before the second elections and suddenly we win them, no , it won’t be like that, if they are won, there is no clear victory in the war, there won’t be normal re-elections, and they won’t be successful, well, you can just go ahead, just right away to say, and they do not report, i think strongly. forces to really win in war, well, in fact, they are only making efforts to finally shake the unity of society, to arrange some incomprehensible political processes, well, okay, well , it’s not the first time we’ve seen this, my god, it won’t think anything, thank you marina, olena zelenska week that's why in the zaeckonom she said that she didn't want him to... run for president for the second time, well, she didn't want him to run for president for the first time, she spoke about it publicly, that she didn't want it, that's for elena zelenska , obviously the second term
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zelensky, well, it is not associated with peace, well , at least, for zelensky, the second term will be peace and the provision of comfort and freedom, i would say so. we can't hear you, maryn, we can't hear you, i'm confused , check yourself, please, yes, yes, yes, please, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, mrs. elena, zelenska actually didn't even want the first term, and you may remember this party, after the first election results were announced, olena zelenska stood because... volodymyr zelensky, as to remove from the cross, that is, she understood that a lot of criticism, a lot of hate awaited her, and, let's say, being the first leda in
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a country that is in a full-scale war, this is not exactly what zelensky's wife aspired to. in this interview, she said: "i don't want a second term or a third." by the way, this phrase "third term" is very interesting, given that perhaps some... thoughts are fresh and original from her husband persha leda, it has interested many, by the way, citizens of ukraine, who barely exhale this zelenskyi's first term, but there is a very significant nuance here, for example, andriy yarmak, the head of the office of the president of ukraine, wants a second term very much, he has repeatedly said this in public interviews, yes, i want volodya to go for a second term, so he will it is very interesting to see whose... point of view our president volodymyr oleksandrovich zelensky will choose. thank you oleksiy, will he, paraphrasing our survey , become the next president, well, we ask, will
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putin become the next president, the next president of russia, will he become the next president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi? you know, it seems to me that this is not what zelensky himself should be interested in, because you know, i don't think so. that in our country we will say the elections so bluntly, especially since there and even the parliamentary factions have already signed some documents stating that the elections are not on time, it seems to me that rather, it is really a matter of the survival of the team that is around , around zelenskyi, obviously she does not see herself, her prospects differently than under the president. zelenskyi, but, if we talk about historical experience, then it is far from always, even if the country wins, it is the person who leads.
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the country to victory, then it wins in the presidential or parliamentary elections, well, the classic classic story with churchill, well, but it seems to me that if instead of thinking about how we can win this war as quickly and efficiently as possible, ukrainian politicians will think about the elections, then i just gave it away. and victory, and accordingly the elections, well, but what, ulyu, what the current politicians and current leaders ukrainians think about elections during the war, how can it be perceived, that is, well, is it good or bad? well, it's bad, it's bad , definitely, even worse, if it's coming from the very team that should really be making efforts for the other, and not to, to,
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push the president to make the wrong decisions, so that correct decisions during the war cannot be, well, you know, motivated by electoral logic, well, these are different logics, well, the logic of those decisions that must be made in order to fight and the logic of those decisions that must be made for to just get out, well, they very often simply contradict each other, i don't want to give examples, but there are quite a lot of them and you can guess for yourself. i would just like to give an example if possible , i would just like to give an example, i can't help but want to give an example of ukraine, but we see what is happening in european countries, in the united states, when politics comes to the fore, and they are not fighting yet, you understand, and we are already suffering from this in reality, that is, what what what, what can be expected from ukrainian politicians then, if they they will, although, of course, you have to be, well
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, adults, to understand that... a politician who does not think about elections, well, this is a huge rarity. thank you, marina, that's the end, just very briefly, the fact that zelenskyi's team is actively pushing out a hardworking politician, how do you think it will end, that is, for a hardworking one? well, i wanted that to end for those who care deeply about the hostage crash ratings. i mean, for example, mr. yermak, because it became known that, i'm sorry, the corpses from bucha have not yet had time to bury in the graves, to die, mr. yermak has already the ratings were interested in the love of ukrainians for the armed forces of ukraine, for the general staff and for zaluzhny, and they began to measure this rating from that time, that is, we are talking about april 2022, this is such a serious nuance, and secondly , i am interested in fate and what elections it is thinking about
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zelenskyi's party... that the fate of our country has not yet been finally determined, and whether we will be an independent state that will not undergo even greater genocide, as it was in the 20th century, this is also an open question, and thirdly, i am literally a couple a few days ago i was in the city of dnipro, and let's say, dnipro is something different in terms of without security, the city is worse than kyiv, and there, for example, every 15 minutes the air is on three sides, and we... understand that the time of arrival of a ballistic missile there is much shorter than to the place. what kind of elections is the president's team thinking about in this case, well, as for mr. zaluzhnyi, i can say yes, they can play along and get their eisenhower. by the way, we, the military as a politician, have not yet tried, i think that such experiments are still waiting for us, thank you, maryna, we have to finish, marina danyliuk, yarmalayeva, olga, leni and oleksii mustafin were guests today's program. thank you ladies and gentlemen
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for participating in the program. so, we conducted a survey on the program and we asked you about this, will putin become the next president of russia? now let's look at the results of a telephone poll of tv viewers. 71% think so, 29% no. it was a verdict program, it was conducted by serhiy rudenko, everyone have a good weekend, until monday at 20:00, goodbye. i flew, flew, the cough stopped me. cough is a symptom of a respiratory disease, so we treat it respiratoryly, we do inhalation. lord hyal - inhalation cough medicine. lorde hyal is a direct way to expel phlegm. ordinary things become unreal. heavy bags are not for my sore back. for back pain, try dolgit cream. long-acting cream relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility.
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