them, especially with regard to the state of war, let's see, not so long ago, we started a powerful, from the point of view of the territories of that country, hostilities - this is israel. we have a powerful arab-israeli war , first of all, this is a war on terrorists, and look at how they reacted, how the politicians behaved, and how the military reacted, and we immediately understand why exactly, well, first of all, that almost all politicians in israel have served more than one year in the armed forces and they understand what the army is, they understand the etiquette in the army, they understand how who has to submit what, we have a huge problem with politicians, that most of the existing politicians, especially the majority of the green ones, did not serve in the army, but they avoided the army, so they perceive the army as their own, you know, at the level of parades or at the level of a game'. no more, no less, and at certain

moments, when they get tangential to the conduct of hostilities, for some reason they think that it is they who direct these operations, they plan, and they think that only their point of view is absolutely correct, that a big problem, i am not saying that due to such behavior, subordination in the army is violated, when its commander-in-chief, bypassing the commander-in-chief, sets tasks and communicates with certain other... subordinates of a lower rank, well, first of all, this undermines the authority of the commander-in-chief, and undermining just, trust in the commander-in-chief, it is not very good, but in the meantime, we have what we have, and we have, if, well, i am more than sure that the existing verkhovna rada will never adopt such a law, which would clearly prescribe that not may to become a deputy there is a person who did not directly serve or was not related to the service.

in the power structures or in the armed forces , that would be great, and then we would have much less problems that we have now, because some are experimenting, thinking that they are running the army, in fact, they are directly only removing the spikes in the tambors, nothing more less, well, but you know valery zaluzhnyi very well, and he probably never spoke there, not even in a friendly circle, but i lead the army there, and then they will presidents but as for the politics of the industrious, these are generally incompatible things, and he is, you know, afraid of politics like the hell of frankincense, if you can say so, that is why he knows war and is directly involved in it, and just again the same six-year examples, when, when politicians pushed the military to engage in politics, and this is the attempt at the moment... to provoke or bring about

this conflict, while saying that there is no conflict, while an interview is already being given here, where they say that politicians should not be involved in flights, the military engage in politics, well, there are more than enough such examples when the military, despite such active action on the part of politicians, went into politics, and let's remember the same charles de gaulle, or let's esenhower, these are two great examples of direct failures and punctures. politicians were led to the fact that the military had to go into politics, or tear out the provisions, perhaps our politicians also because they understand that they do not professionally manage the state and push our military to go into politics, well, that is, they do this, well, i understand, they are just pushing out a hard-working politician, but i think that it will not be better for zelensky, and his team, if a hard-working person enters politics, because the trust rating is really for a hard-working person...

high, what a trust rating to the armed forces of ukraine. mr. general, i also wanted to ask you about dmitry medvedev's statement today, no matter how ironically we treat this character, but he says that the threat of a war between russia and nato is more real than ever, and he says that never, starting not since the caribbean crisis was there such a real threat of a direct confrontation between russia and the transition to the third world. he says that ukraine is... a secondary state that is in the stage of disintegration, well , what he says can be interpreted in a different way , of course, it is propaganda, russian propaganda, but this topic is about the fact that russia can face off in a duel with the nato army, what will happen if russia faces off in a duel with the nato army, you can explain to the audience and medvedev, well , if you think that the russians are doing this for no reason, it will be a mistake, this bluff, how some say, has a certain subgame with it. because

russia has intensively tested nato's capabilities in the last two years, when nato helped, certain nato countries helped ukraine. they saw that the defense-industrial complex was not able to cope with the heavy load, that all the operations and plans that were planned by nato had, shall we say, such short-term deadlines, so for some reason the russians thought that they now had enough the power of means and, first of all , courage, impudence and cheerfulness, in order to return certain countries that they consider it belongs to them, first of all it concerns the baltic countries, i think that they have such... powerful plans, taking into account the pro-russian government, for georgia and directly for ukraine itself, they will look there as well, and they will also attack poland, that's it is clearly understood, and when this border between bluff and reality will cross a certain line, well, it

depends again on the countries of the west, we have a huge number of examples when the west , regardless of the stories about sanctions, meanwhile, it is through the third one. quarters of the country, russia receives the necessary equipment and property, and this first of all, it goes through the countries of central asia, the same kazakhstan, the same kyrgyzstan, where they also get a lot through china, in addition, europe, despite the declaration of sanctions, meanwhile buys gas and oil in huge quantities from russia, also here example, europe, buying oil and gas. exactly what gives russia the ability to become stronger, and the volume of these purchases is calculated in trillions of dollars, here is an example of how medvedev's words are true, he understands that europe is not ready after all

for the final destruction of russia as an aggressor country, as well as the united states. in addition, the situation is strongly shaken inside europe due to pro-russian lobbying. channels of russian interests , but we, on our side, ukraine is absolutely silent in this regard, and we lack any understanding of strategic communications, and we do not even have 15 minutes of ee news on any european american channel about the realities of the russian-ukrainian war, about there are more than enough russian channels of this kind, so if we keep quiet, someone will tell for us, therefore, if we do not uh... show the problems directly to russia as an aggressor, then everyone is already used to this and thinks that russia has already become better there, in the same way, we had two powerful failures, first of all slovaks, nothing prevented our certain specialists from reminding slovaks what

happened in 1968, when the soviet army invaded czechoslovakia and occupied them and imposed a government again, someone has a short memory, the same problem with... with hungary, was the problem problematic in certain ways ? mass media to highlight the problems of 1956, when there was an uprising in hungary, no one does this, and we don't do it, we try to keep such, you know, face that we are not getting anywhere, but we don't need to get anywhere, we just have to tell the realities of those times, and the russians are absolutely not ashamed of this and engages in full, let's say, informational influence on many. countries, including the united states, and this is a huge problem that we can solve, and we are doing absolutely nothing, we have more than enough problems in this regard, yes itself, it is necessary to understand that our government , let's say so, does little enough to

improve the situation in ukraine's information support, there is no such thing, golden propaganda, if someone is silent, then someone will speak for him, thank you, mr. general. ali, it was general serhiy kryvonos. thank you for participating in the program. greetings, dear viewers. on the air of the tv channel, the program studio zahid. we will analyze the most important events, in particular, what is happening on the international political chessboard and, accordingly, how it can happen reflect on the domestic ukrainian. political situation. our guests today are oleg hrybachuk and mark feigin. our first guest is oleg rybachuk, ex-deputy prime minister of ukraine for european integration, former head of president yushchenko's secretariat, co-founder of the honest glory to ukraine movement, mr. oleg, i congratulate you. glory to the heroes and from death we

all know who. well, the key story: the united states, republicans with democrats or democrats with republicans, failed to invade the most important. in particular, it is about our interests, and in ukraine we should focus on this, right? well , by chance i would like to ask you what the prospects are for pursuing this issue after all, do you understand? you can connect it with mexico, you can connect it with the american election campaign, but at the exit, except for anxiety about this, i have nothing. yes, there are reasons for anxiety, and there are reasons for optimism, i always try to look for the light at the end of the tunnel, because otherwise you program yourself, well, as they say, despair is a great sin, well, that is, the first thing that is not yet evening, no one predicted that the vote would take place in early december, everyone said that it would be, as they say, under our christmas trees. there for christmas, secondly, that it was a proposed package that did not

contain the arrangement that the republicans so desired, well, if it were walls, the question is not correct, many of us perceive, oh my god, let's give them a lamb, he will build you a wall , but the question is not about the wall, the question is about immigration policy, that is, the republicans claim that during the period... they received, well, illegal this hole on the southern border got some illegal refugees, and this is biden's immigration policy - this is his highest place, of all there, you know, they evaluate his economic things, so only 25% of americans support biden's immigration policy against the background of these allah akbarov who are currently driving around the world, you know that there is simply an increase in anti-immigration sentiments, and

the democrats need to take this into account, the republicans feel that they have an opportunity now to see through this issue, but the republicans perfectly understand the price lack of support for ukraine and even more so for israel, that is why what is happening now, they tried, the democrats tried to introduce a bill that does not include this issue of border arrangement. this package didn't get enough votes to even be discussed, 49 votes were in favor, 51 were against, with two democrats voting against, one technically, as they say, the card didn't vote, and the other sanders is such an interesting person in the history of american of democracy, he is a democrat, but in fact he is somewhere in chegovarovec, a marxist, leninist, such, but also a billionaire who tried to become president several times, so here we are at this stage about... where i see some compensators, as viktor yusenko once said, where do we

find these compensators, in what is happening , in my opinion, you also had it in the news feed on your channel that they agreed on the joint production of weapons, i read that the white house assigned a special representative to our ministry of strategic industries or something, well , it used to be a ministry, which was engaged in military industry, and it is really very unusual. because it was a dream, in particular mine , volodymyr ogrysko, ex-minister of foreign affairs, and i, when we were in nako several years ago, tried very hard to convince the american ambassador and representatives of the state department that we need to establish joint projects together with ukraine, because we have a huge potential of the military industry, when we showed some of our factories there , which are engaged in the production of helicopters there and sold parts to china, well... when we talked to the representatives, they said, well, what should we do, we have one market, we have a market there, russia and china

, the americans don't let us into their market, they don't let us into their market, they don't let us into their market, they don't let us into their market, that we just have to collapse the production, well, besides these obvious problems, there was a main problem, it's a problem of trust, it's the transfer of technologies, and now i hear for the second day that we are talking about the transfer of technologies, that we are remaking our launchers, but there is... at the moment we don't have that much time, we understand that we will need money, quickly and in a big way quantity, and we will need specific weapons, because while we are setting up production, the few billion dollars left at the bottom of the american aid bucket will run out, so what exactly will we enter with if the new year is not too favorable? well, first of all, that we are there somewhere, well, let's be honest, we will still be there until the end of january. yes, yes, on average, we will not die of hunger, secondly

, european partners, not the americans, are sharply increasing their activity, and we also see this from the germans, the netherlands, and other nato member countries, slovaks, poles, etc. then, well, the poles, by the way, too, they and the hungarians, the hungarians just have different initiatives, different activities happen, so i could. from the side of the european union, it is clear that everything is not so simple, well, but, well, but, no, it is not the poles who are not delaying military aid to us, well, again, i look at how ours are, it made me smile, as ours... began to drive trucks, by rail, and there is still a week left to change the government, that is , a lot will change in us by the new year, but even the pentagon has its extinguishers, remember the story, when the pentagon calculated something there, says: oh, yes, we estimated something wrong here, we still have 6 billion in reserve, everything

that is a little bit, that is, we, i to the point that we will not have a break, not there will be this famine, and ... as they scare us, there will not be a military and technical famine, this does not mean that we are relaxing, but eh, well, it is difficult, it is almost impossible to imagine that in reality american legislators will simply accept and refuse military aid to ukraine , israel and taiwan, that is, most likely, and on that they hint and say, i even read somewhere that there are already signals from the white house that the democrats are also ready... to make certain concessions, in particular, it is said that we should give these, well, conditional mexicans who come from that side, let us their applications for political asylum should be considered on the other side, they should not be sent here, because they are already on the territory of the united states, and this would be an option that is acceptable to the republicans, there was such a scheme before, it was just that trump kept it then, but

the democrats it was softened, that's why they have it to agree on... then they must agree, certain concessions are required from the side. procedural point: the fact that the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyy, should have joined and did not join this rather heated american political party. on the one hand, we understand that it is unlikely that he achieved anything, on the other hand, if it was already planned, then it was worth talking or what? yes, god knows him, you understand, i think that he mainly relied on the opinion of our embassy and our ambassador. karova, who obviously had information that they did not agree, if the president undertakes something, then there must be a result, whether we are talking about a speech, or whether we are talking about a trip there, let's say, the president, it once happened, it was putin who wiped yanukovych's feet, when yanukovych went to moscow, he told all of ukraine that i would bring there was

a normal deal, the price of gas and returned empty-handed, well, before it was equated to a declaration of war, you can't do that. to humiliate the heads of state, therefore, most likely , this is absolutely this information about the fact that they did not agree that the republicans will not vote not because ukraine, but because there there is no question of them, and probably the advice was to wait until they reach some kind of compromise, i don’t comment on it otherwise, and if i were there, relatively speaking, i would have some kind of voice or influence there, i probably wouldn’t advise either for our president to go to an event that... will definitely end in failure, but to convince our american partners, yes, well, we understand that something must be done, we understand that the republican-democratic confrontation will continue, because america is entering the regime elections, well, it begins the brownian movement of our delegations, we are starting to enter the work mode, accelerated, we are starting to try to work with

the americans, but the problem is not there, i did not see the minister of foreign affairs of ukraine. during the regular visit of our high-ranking officials, these are amazing features of how the ukrainian government is organized, and this is very difficult to perceive in the white house, i have already said about it that it was explained to zelensky more than once that there should be a functional government in ukraine, that there should be an executive power, and the center of executive power is not bankova street, this is not yermak and yarmachata, but this is the prime minister. ministers, in particular foreign policy - this is the ministry of foreign affairs , when any of yermak's deputies there talk about what was conspired in the constitution , it is written that the president conducts foreign policy, it is written that way, and in order for him to carry out his foreign policy, he appoints and dismisses the minister of foreign affairs, this is separately provided for in the constitution, so

when there are ministries of foreign affairs, no deputies of yermak or yermaks can do this substitute. this, well, this is savagery, and about this , well, i don’t know what, what words zelensky needs to explain this, and here is the weakness, if you ask me what needs to be done, then now zelensky needs to demonstrate exactly what he understands this, and it is necessary to de-escalate the situation with the military, and it is necessary to demonstrate this unity, which zelensky can do, he can show that they understood the depth of the problems and the depth of the game. for a long time there was already a question of liberating all these shurms and tatars, well, that’s what we’re talking about, they told me openly about it the americans, that it was barely agreed upon , but it was... before the start of the israeli war, i don't know why it's being delayed, but now , when it's already closing in on us, the truth should definitely be determined by ukraine, whether, dear friends, this is some kind

of reincarnation these dear friends, the issue is actually very serious, it cannot be like this, and this is certainly known to our european and american partners, so zelensky will have to make this decision, if you ask me what to do, then now we need to demonstrate the ability to fulfill promises, when we there ... wrote a letter from the white house, it was three months, somewhere, in my opinion , i calculated that these three months would end sometime in january, and there were very specific things, in particular, on anti-corruption, other things, and i think it was in the middle of december, somewhere, by god, we will receive an invitation to the start of negotiations, but it will be such uncorked champagne and simply further work will be immeasurable and there will be immeasurable problems, and with such a structure of power , these problems. it is absolutely impossible to decide, that's why life simply pushes us there, that if we have to survive, then the first can be easily to predict that everything will be fine, the worst

is ahead, this is my favorite saying, yushchenko always said it, but we must prepare for this, it will not be easy for us in the future, in order to be able to solve all these problems, we need a sustainable, sustainable power and public support and coherence and custom... the absence of systemic corruption , which is limited to banking, and these situations, fellow journalists, are described almost every week, and that is why we are then surprised that this one walks on the defensive, and and they say it is needed somehow refute. well, there is a tactical story, it is the dismissal or resignation of fedor venislavski, the president's representative in the verkhovna rada, from his post. venislavskyi said that he simply does not charge, they say, because it is both a committee and many additional ones. cases, well, but we understand that it was fedir venislavskyi who actively and openly criticized mariana bezuglu, who in turn criticized the commander-in-chief of the armed

forces of ukraine, general valery zaluzhnyi, and we also understand that this story coincides from time to time with those processes, about what are you talked about, in particular, it is about certain american decisions. the representative of the president in the verkhovna rada crossed paths several times on the air, and he pleased me with his intelligence, intelligence and, well, such europeanness, so if you take him and maryana, they are just opposites, and again, if you take him and take yermak, they are also antipodes, so it is most likely not so much a decision, i think of zelensky, as what andriy whispered there again, but this indicates that there is no understanding of the seriousness of the situation, this... suggests that the forces of good are winning, the wrong people are being released now, and these are very wrong signals, and and and simply

, in fact, it does not facilitate the situation with communications at all, it sends the wrong signal to the same parliament and again drives zelenskyi into an even bigger corner, because such things are read in the same way as you and i, most likely the west. analysts will analyze that a person simply recognized the inadmissibility of direct conflicts between the president and, let's say, the military, and for this, for the right things, well, this reminds me the story with our ambassador to great britain , for example, this is this is this is a sad story for president zelenskyi, this is a very sad personnel story, which suggests that this structure is not moving in the right direction, which... on several of his advisers, and through them others, depending on loyalty, either get positions or lose them, about which

people get positions, the biguus agency together with the movement did an honest, recently they did an analysis of many of yermak's advisers, and the situation there is simply wild, and it is clear that the further it goes, the more attention will be paid to it, we will still have to make a decision, but why so much... launch, we already have time, as you and i understand, we don't have quick actions, quick decisions are needed, and we need to restore trust, we understand that there is a commander-in-chief, there is a commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, there are relevant generals who manage the directions, branches of the troops, and so on and so on, all this should be demonstrated, well monolithicity, we understand that there may be discussions, may there will be difficult discussions, emotional and so on, but the west needs certain such... impulses that would demonstrate that the ukrainian military-political elite is cemented. first, it is necessary to clearly understand that for

the military, for... the military, it is absolutely unacceptable to act in a non-hierarchical way, that is, relatively speaking, you cannot talk to a subordinate through the head of the commander, it is simply excluded altogether, and therefore when information is published in the press about the fact that, for example, the president communicates with some deputies of the commander-in-chief, heads of military branches without his knowledge, this is an absolutely wild unacceptable situation, and this... is understood by the ukrainian military, and it is definitely understood in the west. with such methods of communication, it will be impossible to talk about successes. i think that this will be one of the conditions for continuing to support ukraine and providing ukraine with modern types of weapons and planning the next offensive there, this will be the very solution to this issue, as you and i will most likely see there publicly, and... well, zelensky

can be told that he doesn't like being pressured, but here the question is not about who is who loves, here the question is whether or not there will be ukraine, and i know that the west can communicate in this way, in my time, i have more than once witnessed such very tough, direct conversations, and the ukrainian authorities will have to be ready for this, if we want, and what's more, we demand such a level of cooperation and support, then we have to adjust all our wheels, so that... we ran like a driller's watch, not squeaking like an old wheel. but please detail the stories you just mentioned, how the west, for example, can put pressure on those or i don't know about our other presidents, prime ministers, how does this happen? there are, well, several levels, the ambassadors work first, the ambassadors have contact there, if we are talking about political forces, let's say it was the motherland there, our ukraine, there are also some political forces, the ambassadors meet with representatives of each

sy. political forces and talk about the need for cooperation, well, in general terms, no one there is literally putting so much pressure that we are telling you that you should do this and that, in a situation where there was a threat of the disintegration of the orange coalition, my phone is simply broke up, because i was constantly on the mobile phone with the state department, the traitors of the president of the united states, who simply persuaded, urged to... protect the coalition, but by then it was already too late, by then, between the politicians tymoshenko and yushchenko, it was simply burned completely the territory, the bridges were broken , and they did not want to cross, by the way, the price, the price we are paying enough, if there was no disintegration of the orange coalition then, if the alliance of tymoshenko and yushchenko was preserved, then there would be no yanukovych, but that is already history, but i was

just a witness, i tell you i know... how this is done, but i still know that there are direct telephone conversations between the president and the president or an adviser to the president, and there are people there, there are some adequate people around each president, there is the ministry of foreign affairs, there are communication channels, but there is also the prime yes, that's the difference of ukraine now, that now the whole world is talking about the ukrainian president, but yesterday we saw the video of the online conference. zelenskyi with the leaders of the seven, this is an extremely powerful tool, it was a closed conference, you and i do not know what was discussed there, but i i know that there they can speak literally in such words, calling for unity, for a demonstration of cooperation, and i have already seen in the ukrainian information space that the tension is decreasing, well , everything has passed, the page has been turned , we continue to work, because in we have... a common big goal,

i think that you and i will see more joint greetings for the new year, and somewhere all these distant people will start to turn us back, they already calmed us down before, we just didn't believe in their reassurance is needed zelensky should demonstrate certain steps, no matter how much it is desired, but it is necessary to demonstrate steps and in no way, in any way, not try to create problems with the military now in the middle of such a defining stage in the war. the military does not deserve this and does not like it very much, no, it’s just that when you mentioned the orange coalition, its disintegration and so on, that is, there were forces that worked separately under viktor andriyovych, under yulia volodymyrivna, and this whole thing could not stick together, that’s why that this or that contractor constantly appeared. now we can see clearly paid, manipulative articles that appear in some semi-respectable western media, and we also see a certain...