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the kokhov hydroelectric power plant, yes, they postponed this movement, which was supposed to be this year, to the next hour, we were ready to force the dnieper at the beginning of june and move to the crimea, just in time for this summer campaign, the russians undermined it, pushed it back, but once so, now there is nothing for them to undermine there, because then we have the opportunity to move to krym, the next summer company, and the possible movement is not put on the table. thank you very much, roman svitan, military expert, colonel of the armed forces of ukraine. reserves
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military pilot instructor was with us on communications, now we will move from the eastern and southern fronts to the united states of america, oleksandr motil, historian, political scientist, professor of the rodgers university of the united states, will be with us now, and we will be with him in good health, mr. professor, i am glad see, thank you for finding time for us, thank you for the invitation, and that's it, now finally explain. to the broad ukrainian liberal liberal nationalist public over there on the border with mexico, because of which ukraine cannot receive money from america, and and and we know here that it is somehow related, that the republicans are putting pressure on biden, biden seems to want to give ukraine money and weapons and everything, but he can't, and the republicans say, if you don't do it. this and that mystery,
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what is it, what is it like there on the american-mexican border, what should biden do to unlock this problem of money for ukraine? you know, in recent months, just a huge number of migrants, fugitives, are coming from south and central america, well, they want to somehow get to america, to the usa, so there... long queues, many people who crossed legally, and even more illegally, they have now settled in different cities, new york, for example, is one of them, and for various reasons there, budgetary reasons, political, socio-cultural and so on, it 's a huge burden on individual cities, including my city, new york, so that the republicans are insisting that we have to put...somehow this border
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to keep so many people out, they're insisting that there are certain rights that the president himself has, and these rights must be limited, which means regarding, regarding, regarding the refugees, well , in general, i would like to reduce this influx of refugee refugees, the republicans in general , therefore, are not so radical, regarding that, but there is a radical wing that is simply... fundamentally not ready for any concessions , well, at least that's what they say. from a democratic point of view, there is a similar problem. in principle, the majority of democrats were ready to make some kind of compromise, but there is a left wing, well , a counterweight to the right wing in the republican party, which consists of so-called progressives who are generally against any restrictions, and there is a so-called group of spanish-speaking...
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senators, congressmen, who are also against such serious restrictions, and biden to some extent created such a mess for himself, because he proposed a law in which money should be allocated to ukraine and israel , well, for defense, for protection, and at the same time , certain, well, certain measures would be taken to limit the flow of those emigrant migrants. and the republicans first said: well, we are ready to do this at any price, because you are offering too little, too late, and it is necessary to treat all this much more seriously, and biden is now in a kind of mess, he is ready to make certain concessions, at least he said so, but of course now the problem is that his left wing will say no, the right wing of the republicans will also say no. and both
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sides actually entered a kind of deadlock, how to get out of this deadlock is difficult, rather later, as is always the case with american politicians, they will find... some kind of compromise , the question is when in a few weeks the congress goes on vacation, so it will be at all idle for a few weeks will return somewhere around the end of january, so it means that until then there will be no money for ukraine, it can then suddenly change at the end of january, but at least for a month and a half there will be no such aid, well , biden has a certain way there. he can be there, he has certain rights, so it won’t be zero, but it won’t be what everyone expects and everyone wants and everyone hoped for, until now, well , you have it, a dead end, okay, the question is, maybe it’s vague , but the answer is because i have
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one more question about ukrainians in america, but i i would like to ask from the point of view of an american ideologist, how is it, well, how is it to combine the strengthening of the border so that there are no migrants, and america is a country of migrants, there are no migrants there, only indians, all the rest are migrants, in the first generation, third, 15- that or some other there, and if the statue of liberty, where it is written, come to me, i will meet you all here, because i am freedom, and here is the land of freedom and so on and so on, and now there is a quarrel. not to let, as far as it corresponds in general, some, some kind of ground, on which it stands, stand the united states. well, forget that this is not the first time that there were and are restrictions on migrants, so from about
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1890 until the end of the first world war, they let everyone in, well, i already arrived, and in principle they already let you in, then in the 24th... year of the last century, very strict restrictions were adopted, which existed to a large extent until the year 49, which were then somewhat changed, and radically changed in such a more liberal spirit in the 60s, and since then many hispanics, asians and others flocked to america, yes that here, you understand, the practice is not clear-cut , it’s one thing, the other, no one is proposing... to completely close the border, well, isn’t trump saying that, but he also couldn’t help but put it into practice, it’s about how much, in what way, who , and so on, so in principle there is an opportunity for some kind of compromise, but
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at the same time, as for the dialogue itself, you see, republicans to a large extent, not exclusively, but to a large extent represent people who... live between the shores , between the coasts of america and there are, well, to one degree or another christian, well, white christians, of european descent, so there's a kind of homogeneity there, the democrats represent a lot of california, new york, like those two coasts, where there's a lot of different people, immigrants, etc., so they, well, for natural reasons, they support... grants , and those, so to speak, for natural reasons are somewhat more skeptical about it, but of course, there is a question here, that is, to what extent america will remain america if it lets in more, because then the question is, therefore, of identity in general, or at all then in english
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language we will speak, can we all switch to spanish, and that, by the way, is not a completely theoretical question, or on the other hand , do not let people in at all, which... this is against all the principles of american democracy, so one way or another, trouble . okay, one more thing, now the question about ukraine, there were yeermak, umerov, stefanchuk, something is known about this, there was a large ukrainian delegation, we sat there for a long time in washington in offices, went to institutions, institutions, we can say something, we we understand what they are doing there. what statements were what the americans said, they said something new, it is obvious that the americans in every cabinet said, support always, forever, as long as putin, we are by your side, we are well done, and you are well done, hooray, hooray, and something else, besides such general
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things, something it is known that the american press is writing something, and as far as i know, there are no statements other than such bogus statements. there was no specific, well, that means the very fact that lloyd austin and others came forward and said: we will support ukraine and we will always support it, well, this is very important in principle, because... at least there is this intention, so how is it to turn into life, to implement into life , well, it’s a bit more complicated, but at least it remained and is and will be biden’s policy, well, at least until the end of his term as president, and this is important, so in principle, ukraine is supported by america, that’s a fact, but you understand , this is not enough, because in the end these laws have to be pushed through both the senate and the... representatives, there, by the way, it is even more difficult, because there are many more radical republicans, so
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it will still take, if not several weeks, maybe even several months. mr. professor, excuse me, please, the last question, we literally have two minutes, but it is not so little, and do you in america understand why zelensky canceled the speech before the united states senators? because somehow this controversy here has many, many layers, and i still could not understand for myself, there is some explanation why zelensky said: i will speak, and then decided not to speak, it is not known why, this, too, i naturally do not know and do not understand why he did it, would it have made any particular difference, well not sure, because considering what is the interest here, how do they generally relate to all this, hardly. but it would not be a pity, because no matter what, he remained very popular, he is respected, and such
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a short speech, well, even for 5 minutes, if not for half an hour, would be useful, he would also help the ukrainian diaspora in his business , and here a lot of people do lobbying, write articles, write letters to congressmen, and himself, that is, the presence of zelensky himself, even in a virtual way, it would help to... appeal to washington and convince washington that this necessary, so, in my opinion, this is a mistake, i hope that there was some solid, convincing reason, but whatever it was, it did not help the ukrainian cause, or it hurt, hardly, but it could help something, and it unfortunately, it did not do this. thank you very much, oleksandr motyl, historian, political scientist, professor at rudger university of the united states from the city of new york. and now i 'm going to test myself for commercials for 3 minutes, and
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are far away, and the chance of missiles arriving there is very small. it's our first time there... yes, you can't get out here with an ordinary car. shelter is it shelter, this is shelter from disaster, this is shelter from genocide, this is preservation, this is preservation of oneself in order to preserve the future, this is the preservation of others who, together with you, will rebuild this future. we have to be strong, i tell myself this every day, and so that we can help others. so, as i promised, about polish events we will now talk about our wonderful neighbor, no matter how bad someone says about her, i believe that the poles help us a lot, god bless everyone, and most importantly, god bless i am marik sierant, polish to the expert and journalist who will now appear
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on our screens, and we will talk with him then, good health, mr. siyran, thank you. that you found time for us, good evening, mr. editor, and all the best to you, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, look, is there a border on the agenda at all, is the whole of poland politically concentrated, that now this prime minister will not be trusted, and now there will be a new prime minister, and then a new life will begin, but until then, don't touch us, we have our own insides here. not to you, and even because belgium, austria, the netherlands, italy, plus the baltic countries , everyone says, hello, what are you doing, poles , something must be done, yes, it cannot be done that way, a compromise must be found, and this is for the polish government, for official warsaw
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, they wanted to spit on all these calls from europeans, ukrainians and so on. well, i think so , the one who leaves is a little offended, and of course he does not want to do things that are not resonant, no, no, i would say, not the kind that you can promote yourself a little bit , they are very cruel here, it is necessary to solve, in reality , the problems are such as not to offend and not to punish, it is not known for what. ukraine , but at the same time to preserve our industry, our economy and be so smart that it was good here, and it was good here, yes, but this, this is a task for people who think strategically, or - a two-week government
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can think strategically, but let him answer this question for himself, i think not, but... the minister who is appointed for two weeks, but you yourself understand, he will not solve anything here, but it is, as it is, we have such a situation , such a political theater in poland, but i want to assure you that donald tusk is in his at the conference yesterday, somewhere he also spoke about the border and said exactly in such words that we will solve this topic from the first days, we will... not negotiate, we will do so as not to kill ukraine, because there is a war for survival there, and we will also simultaneously want to help our here. an entrepreneur, but at the same time he emphasized that what is happening on the border in such a form as it is now cannot be allowed to stand out, and this is a very serious
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position of the kind that we have been waiting for a long time, er, and moreover, the minister of the new infrastructure, who is from of the psl coalition party, that is, the people's party the party of poland, one of the oldest, in fact, in poland, said that... he is ready at any moment to solve these problems and deal with them, that is, we have two positive signals that we will do something about it, and how will it be in fact, let's see, that's how you recognize them by their fruits, yes , i understand correctly, you tell me, maybe i'm wrong , i have the impression that not everyone in ukraine understands, and i belong to those who do not fully understand. complaints, this is my last week, i understand that the poles say that ukrainian trucks are big cars they go there and simply physically take work
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from the poles, because they are ready to work for less money, and they simply become intra-european transporters, they are not those who carry something from ukraine or to ukraine, he, they came to poland, unloaded something. drove another 5 km, drove up somewhere and said : you can take me to belgium, he says: okay, i can, but for 1000 games for 100 euros, i can pay, and he says, okay, i have 200, and so i pay i will hire a ukrainian and he will go, it is profitable for him, that’s right, i understand, that’s right, you everything was said correctly, it is not about importing or exporting some things from ukraine, but about the fact that... when you import, i don't know, your cargo, yes, to poland, or to any another state there, a european one,
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you have the right to get stuck back and start something in ukraine, but it was about the fact that you do not move between, for example, brussels and liege, then to amsterdam, then to berlin and again to warsaw and so on and so on, if there was no question about it, but... it was only about what you bring in and take out, but in the direction ukraine, or from ukraine, here it turned out that some ukrainian carriers, well, wanted to make a little extra money for themselves, and so they actually violate these agreements between the european union and ukraine, and the poles do not want to bother about it, and moreover, the poles are very... . was bullied by the queue that is on the ukrainian side of the border, it is no secret that the ukrainian border, i would say, is very wild, and one day, when
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the time comes, i will tell you my story myself , how i was recorded a car at the ukrainian border, although i have never entered ukraine with that car, but i was the owner, me then i confessed only when i could drive to the border in my car and for three years no one could solve it in ukraine. case, until i hired a lawyer, then how can such a scheme be drawn up for me as an individual, then i imagine what can be done with vans and trucks, and everyone spread their hands, i drove, as i went to the border to show a whole folder of documents , to prove that i am a non-verblud and although it is visible that i am a non-verblud, but if i didn't have it, well, the only thing that saved me was that i had an old passport and there was a stamp that i drove by bus and not on a car , only this saved me, so i wouldn’t have proved anything, a car would have been hanging on me, a mercedes that drives beautifully somewhere in ukraine, or maybe it doesn’t drive anymore, but that’s how they hung
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cars on me, marik, look , yes, i'm just for the audience, but just now they were showing that ukrzaliznytsia started helping carriers, loading these trucks, and they are already going there by rail, i have one more question, a question inside. political polish, i simply cannot understand, very often polish presidents play an important role , but on the other hand, what i know is that poland is a parliamentary-presidential republic, and there the prime minister should play the most important role, that is, the government created by the parliament and so on, in poland, if you never, i never can. to understand who , who, who, who is a marshal, who is a general , who is a marshal, after all, who is the most important, who is a little lower, and when i see that the president
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went there polski, there, he met here. then the question arises, what does the prime minister do then? well no, i don't understand that, i do i understand, in ukraine we also have a parliamentary one, but the people elected us that way and we have a war now, and it is obvious that the president, he is also the supreme commander, well, we say, well, okay, if you are so supreme, then go ahead and rule, look, we have such a magical word, cohabitation, and everything is hidden in it, all these... details, all, of course, the prime minister, as he is elected by the parliament, as he is supported by the parliament of the majority of the parliament, but eh nominally for the contribution of the prime minister, the president puts the copies under the government, that is, he signs and if he convenes the government, one might say, moreover, the president is the commander-in-chief, so he
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also represents poland. in foreign affairs at the level of the minister of foreign affairs and diplomats, the diplomatic corps , eh and here eh it was specially designed so that there was no civil war in poland, but they simply had to talk to each other and eh, how can you say, not play to to one, to one gate, so i would say, already sports nomenclature. it turns out that it doesn't work like that, then everyone, as it happens in poland, and sometimes in ukraine, everyone is a petman, and there is even an old polish proverb that a nobleman is equal to a voivode, that is, you know, and here i think that this mentality of ours comes out in such moments, but i would like the president, whatever which... it will be andrzej duda
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or another, or a former one, represented poland and put aside all his party interests of the political chamber with which he comes out, until that moment it was more or less successful, well, here it is, what is, but i will not criticize president duda, because he is really a lot of things did for ukraine, and i want them to remember him about all the internal things. as well as the issue of the domestic political arena , there are many reservations, there are also many positives, but well, it's time for another program, i, for now, it's time for another program, i would like to thank mark sierant, a polish expert, journalist, thank you very much, i just a minute and a half or one minute now, before i give the floor to iryna koval, i would just say that you see, there are dual powers not only in ukraine, but we
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don't have dual powers... power, because the party won, the president from this party won , or rather the opposite, first the president, then the party, and if the ukrainians themselves said, we want to have otaku, otaku power, okay, there are no questions, otherwise, well, you can’t do anything, but this is dual power, which theoretically there is , well, during the war it is also not dual power, but one power, because he is obviously the supreme commander, he is the president, and no one will say anything here, but in principle sooner or later both poles and ukrainians will have to. decide sooner or later, this is a parliamentary republic, this is a presidential republic the republic, who is in the house, who belongs to whom rabinovitch , as they said at the time, all this will simply have to be done, although certainly not during the war, these and these things must be thought about, but just keep it in mind that this is such a difficult problem, let's take the president of germany, let's take the king, the king
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of britain. and so on, there they have no power, in fact, there is a prime minister everywhere. now we have news, as i promised, with a trembling, with a trembling heart to irina koval, i pass the word, she will tell you all the news that she learned, she and all the people who are now are working on the news that happened in kyiv while i was breeding terevni here, in kyiv, mr. mykola, and not only in kyiv, but also in various regions of our country. country and i will tell about the help to our country, please wait until 18:00 in ukraine, for your attention news release on the espresso tv channel, in the studio of iryna koval, greetings to all viewers. two women.
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