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recreation of workers, so they did it at the skoldova grave, few people even know that it is a former large cemetery, yes, and they did it in the mariinsky park, which oleksandr kucheruk has a book about the mariinsky necropolis, the mariinsky park necropolis, where in fact it is a place of burials the place of the shootings, please tell me what kind of location it is, the otmarinsky couple, what are they too, they themselves. created this necropolis first, that is , they buried the participants of the bolshevik performance there in november 17th, then the participants of this bolsheviki for the mutiny at the arsenal as early as january 18th, later the participants of the battle were also buried there under motovylovka, this is when the unr directorate returned, the soldiers who died, died in the battle near motovylivka, they were buried here in mariyansky park, this is the tradition ... the bolsheviks continued the burials
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, but then they themselves made a park there, and this is essentially on the site of the necropo, but there are also the times of muravyov, and there muravyovshchyna, thousands of people are buried there, on this territory, the largest number of people is impersonal, just in a row, say they killed, it was precisely because of the bolshevik invasion , when uravyev was captured by the troops here, he was alone in the palace, there was their own pond,
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it became warm there for a while, there was a stench and a place , the local residents wrote, complained that god cannot do something, and then for a certain period in pechersk, even the price of apartments fell very sharply, because no one wanted to live in this, in this, in this stench, and what they liquidated, the bolsheviks had absolutely some kind of dislike for the historical legacy, they destroyed these cemeteries not only because they were there. park area, that there are not enough parks or something, but to destroy the memory, the memory, and in the 19th year there was such a resolution, i met it, the decision to transfer the cemetery to vegetable gardens, well, you know , they grow it, and in general, if we are talking about this period of mureyov's occupation of kyiv there, from june 7 to february 7, 2018, until march 1 , hundreds of people were really destroyed and re-incarnated there.
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burials took place in march from the anatomical theater, relatives were looking for their relatives and, if i am not mistaken, on march 10, 18 , burials took place at the zvirynetsky cemetery, this is verknia street, and here is a photo card of how these poho burials took place, and this photo card is often confused with the burial of participants in the battle, yes, written on those photos, of course, the zvirenetske cemetery is on pechersk, yes verkhnya street, please tell me what you think, here is mine the question to yaroslav faizulin will be, how do you feel about the fact that, as i understand correctly, now and still in this mariinsky park, even after there were terrible battles there, and they beat and killed the participants of the revolution of dignity also in february 14 year, yes, there are no ukrainian labels, i understand correctly, that there are no ukrainian labels there, but already in 2017 after... all that happened
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during the revolution of dignity, a monument to anna appeared there on the initiative of the leadership of the inter tv channel, anna bezlyudnaya and other leaders akhmatova, actually a russian writer, despite her origin in odesa, but this monument to anna akhmatova appears. what do you say about the fact that there are russian signs and no ukrainian signs in the marijansky park? this is what you and i talked about, it absolutely fits in the concept of... the destruction of ukraine, when the memory was destroyed first by the imperial power, then by the soviet power, and then by a regime that was absolutely not ukrainian, they honored their events, historical events, historical figures, marked them, focused attention on them, in that at the same time, everything ukrainian was silenced, moreover, it was ridiculed, it was presented as less prestigious, less authoritative, and to be ukrainian meant being
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somehow second-rate. policies aimed at destroying ukrainian identity or erasing ukrainian identity. let's remember more. one thing is that the decree means the day of conciliar unity was established by the decree of kuchma in 99 of 2000, if i am not mistaken, in the 11th year yanukovych eliminated, or rather he tried to blur the day of conciliar unity and freedom, something like that, later when he fled to russia, then this holiday on the day of the conclave, it was returned as a mistake due to the fact that this monument was erected in violation of all possible rules. laws and rules, i.e. none permits, no approvals, no decisions about it, but they wanted and put it in and put it up, that is, it was illegally put up, it should be illegal and, it should be legally removed from there, there, thank god, there is
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a monument, poor ukrainians, and this one, and she, so to speak, should all this work, well, not to consecrate, but to inspect, and, but they wanted to bake. this is despite the fact that anna akhmatova, with all due respect to her work, admitted that she does not like kyiv and does not like the ukrainian language, she wrote it in her diaries, it seems, and look, i still i will return so that we have time to talk about it, i will return again to kyiv-bulgakov, here are these events that he describes in the white guard and the day that he describes, it was the day of december 19 , 18'. year, when the troops of the directorate enter kyiv, how did kyiv at that time meet the military directorate, the ukrainian army, petlyura's army, it no longer met petlyura's army as described in this imperial myth by bulgakov, yaroslav, what
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happened on that day, which then there was kyiv, well , look, kyiv was different, in fact, there were both pro-russian sentiments and pro-ukrainians in kyiv. attitude, and when there was a bolshevik occupation in kyiv, those who had pro-russian sentiments demonstrated it in every possible way, at the same time, when kyiv was liberated, by the way, during the time of hetman pavel skoropatsky, a huge number of russians came to kyiv, russian officers who tried to settle here , because they perceived that this ukrainian state, this is one of the episodes before the restoration of great russia, it will not last long, that is, here we are... now the restoration will begin from here, that the bolsheviks repressed and persecuted them there, they moved here, lived here, walked here, but when the ukrainian government returned, of course the ukrainian part of kyiv greeted it festively, solemnly welcomed it, there was
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a parade, a demonstration, later, not long after that, the proclamation of the act of annexation took place in kyiv, but i want to say about the ukrainian part of kyiv, do you understand? at the beginning of the 20th century, there were very few ukrainians in kyiv, i don't remember who said from the classics that ukrainian families in kyiv, who raise their children in the ukrainian language, could to list on the fingers of two hands, one even, but these ukrainian figures, they did not stop their activities, mykola lysenko, lesya ukrainka, oleksandr konytskyi and many other figures who tried to return this ukrainian identity, through their works, through theatrical performances, through ukrainian music, and this work, it seems to be imperceptible on the outside, it gave its results. on april 1, 1717 , when the ukrainian national demonstration was taking place, 100,000 people came out on the streets of kyiv, at the peak of this pro-russian mood
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people with national symbols in ukrainian clothes in order to demonstrate that ukrainian kyiv is and is a very powerful force to be reckoned with, and in fact, after the ukrainian manifesto , pro-russian forces, or forces that were oriented towards the interim government, they began to be reckoned with with the ukrainian movement, that 's what hrushevsky was told at the time, they made fun of hrushevsky and said that where are you going to get pro-ukrainian people in kyiv, you can put tin soldiers like that, it was about this demonstration, and you mentioned 100 000, but it must be understood that 100,000, then 350 thousand lived in kyiv, which means that this is a third of all people, it is approximately. just as in the last revolution, when 3 million people lived in kyiv, at one time almost a million gathered for the baptism, well , in the central part, you can imagine this, i want to ask, i want to ask, how about this day when kyiv met the directory, that how they drove, how the ukrainian troops drove, on what
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streets, at what addresses in general, everything started at the station, so a certain time was set there, i arrived, first came alone. and then they waited for the train with the directorate, the directorate arrived, the orchestra was standing here, foreign diplomats were standing here , they were waiting, here were representatives of the city, various institutions, and so on, who were waiting for what would come, and when the directorate arrived... they were solemnly greeted, they they were greeted again, they got into a car and drove to sofia maidan, that is, they drove along this street, which is now petlyura street, modern petlyura street, modern bohdana khmelnytsky, volodymyrska and got there, they were already lined up there by this time troops gathered public, it was winter, it was cold, but according to the press of the time, 10 thousand people gathered only on sofia maidan itself. who wanted to see, who came to meet with, i say, with all
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the unfavorable weather conditions, and they came, the city was decorated as much as possible, for example, what i like, we specifically indicate this in the book, which is on sofia maidan, behind two structures were built by narbut's project, one is a triumphal arch with the coats of arms of different regions of ukraine, and the other is an obelisk, a monument of restoration republic and in the small newsreel that has survived, its fragment is just visible, it says the 19th, well, it’s not quite that, oh, but this obelisk stood until 1032, when the bolsheviks broke the trestle from above, hung a red flag there and it , he stood, but it was done precisely in order to solemnly welcome and celebrate and , so to speak, to seal, let's say with such a word, so this place... on such a huge occasion for the restoration of the republic with the victory of the ukrainian spirit itself, therefore that we
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will not now talk about the hetman about all these all these stories, very, very many people , four or five bishops came to the meeting of the directors, you know, and when the church was not far from being pro-ukrainian, but it turns out that they also understood, who is the master here, whose authority, what is ukrainian, after all, it is... the master, the father and the foundation of our, our capital. please tell me more about the university of st. volodymyr, i saw that it was very interesting that vira ageeva talks about the fact that the tsarist authorities created this university, and how, how strange, what exactly is in this university this university educated, in particular, members of the government, and became actually, well... such a center of education for pro-ukrainian people, of course, that is, the university was created in
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1834, to a large extent with the transfer of the kremenets lyceum to kyiv, was created with purpose, before that there was a polish uprising to counter polish influence, most of the teachers were pro-russian, and at the beginning of the 20th century and even during the ukrainian revolution, there were many ee rusos about pro-russian teachers, and also... students, but even more so , this is a classic university, it is a good university with good traditions, and it has at least educated many famous ukrainian figures, such as mykhailo hrushevskyi, chairman of the central rada, dmytro doroshenko, minister of foreign affairs, serhii yefremov, serhii yefremov , dmytro antonovych, oleksandr shulginv, volodymyr shulgen, imagine, there is a shulgin family, oleksandr shulgin becomes the minister of foreign affairs. affairs, the general secretary of foreign
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affairs, he enlists as an assistant to the sich riflemen's regiment, goes, volunteers to take part in the battle under the cliffs, and he died in the battle under the rocks, and later, when the funeral was to be held in kyiv, shulgin's family published an announcement in the new council newspaper that someone knew something about our son, vlada shun, please. will volunteer and there were several obituaries in honor of this guy, well , the university of prince saint volodymyr, he remained until the end a stronghold of the russian world, but we had such a university, an opera theater, the university existed, its last rector under that government, tsitovych , was such a distinct russian nationalist, though he was hardly a pole by origin, but he was an outspoken nationalist, and only after that... and the soviet authorities could do nothing even with him with that university, he remained until it was completely liquidated, in the opera house the theater
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, in which, by the way, the approval of the act of separation took place and the labor congress was held, the peasant congress was held, the first ukrainian opera in the ukrainian language was performed as early as 1927, these were the centers of the russian world, but the university management paid a lot of attention to the political situation, because in those times central the ukrainian national university operated there, lectures were held, and... later under hetman skoropadskyi at the mykolaiv military school, this is here on petroflotskyi prospect, a ukrainian state university was opened, pompously officially, but this place was not quite provided for this function and later under ... the session of this ukrainian study of the ukrainian state university was moved to the red building of the university hill, and then , just under skakarpatskyi, they wanted to transform this university into a there was terrible resistance from the ukrainian, and then we had to make a parallel ukrainian, this national and then the state university, and they
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did not submit to ukrainization . to pass, and it seems to me that there is also a street in gorodetskoy, where literally the former mykolaivska, yes, mykolaivska, which, well , every one, yes, there, there, too, every address, this, this is some kind of historical, historical building, tell me about gorodetskoy street, well give me a part, a part, let's say, where it is now conservatory and cinema, ukraine, still alive for now, although there is a sign on it, it was actually the continental hotel there. it's one of the best, the ukraine cinema is a hippopotamus, it's a little further, yes, i want it, the first hotel was this continental, in which they lived, well, who didn't live there, and petlyura petlyura, yevhen konovalyts, by the way, were there in the continental hotel, accommodated the members of this western ukrainian delegation that came to the signing of the zluk act, and
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from there they were taken to sofiyskyi, not far away, yes, and what you mentioned, that the cinema ukraine, that this is a circus, krutikov's circus, krutikov - it was who hired this on his behalf, hippopasalas, what was his name, there took place one, well, extraordinary event for the ukrainian revolution, it is the election of the hetman, the hetman of ukraine, who was elected, pavlo skoropatskyi , and there is a very, excuse me, and there is a very touching memory of skoropadskyi about how he was greeted by the hall, how he everything that he was preparing, he could not even say, because... there was ecstasy at this congress farmers, that's what the congress was called, well, look, here we have a mother, must bear in mind the fact that hetman pavlo skoropatsky wrote his memoirs later and it is clear that he tried to give this moment of his election as hetman, this is the peak of his essentially political career, the maximum such
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triumph, yes, it is clear, you are not a hetman, i i see absolutely no, that is, we are ukrainians, yes , hetman pavlo skoropadskyi is important to ukrainians, they respect him because he was the creator of the ukrainian army, whether we like it or not, the first ukrainian corps was headed by hetman pavlo skoropadskyi, this is the ukrainized 34th russian corps, the first ukrainian corps, and hetman pavlo skoropatskyi is the founder of the ukrainian state, and to a large extent , institutes, gymnasiums, the ukrainian academy of sciences, a library were created for him. many of these things had their beginnings back in the days of the central council, he finalized a lot, but it was finalized for him, and therefore we must also respect him, what is next, look a little further through the house, it seems that there was a ministry, military the ministry for a certain time, then we will take the theater franka is modern, this is the former, there was a young
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theater that performed there, our luminaries, who are who, performed there, then it is from this. side, then the houses on the opposite side, i don't remember now which one exactly, ukrainian institutions were also located there, well, the street is just short and it was so aristocratic, let's say, and that's why it's not always possible to there was something there, let's say to hide, but the residence of specific people is precisely connected with this street, there were no rallies there, strangely enough on... hetman, there was another very an important event, the third military congress was held in this krutikov hippo palace circus, and the participants of the third military congress demanded from the leadership of the ukrainian people's republic to declare the independence of ukraine and start the creation of the ukrainian army
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and to a large extent under their, under their pressure, under according to their demands , ukrainian was declared on november 17th, and then this cinema was built on this place during the second world war, it was damaged and then it was actually on those on those walls, no, no, part of the walls were preserved , by the way, as in the conservatory, the lower part of the basement was preserved, everything from it from the hotel, you can see it sitting there, and it was modernized and as it is as it is now, and something like this... maybe what do you know , such a ukrainian tradition, it was there that famous performance at the premiere of the film shadows of the forgotten pertky energy took place. in 1965 , on september 4, when ivan dzyuba was the first to come out, then chornovil, and they said about the ukrainian arrests, it was already ours, already there, there
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already ukraine has not weathered from there , so, if we are already summarizing, yes, you have very well brought up to, to , to, to the strength of the place, yes, to the strength of history, what do you expect, so... regarding ukrainian addresses in kyiv, how do you see, how do you see that this story, that we should bring this story back, back and revive it, what should be done for this besides the book, excuse me, yaroslav and i have been working for a long time at the institute of national remembrance, and even then this memorialization project was being developed kyiv addresses, in particular, the ukrainian revolution. offices of mykhailo hrushevskyi and volodymyr vennichenko in the building of the central rada. the construction of the monument to simon petlyura near the building of the central council in 2009
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, a memorial table was installed, where a monument will be built on this place, until now the kyiv authorities have not dared to build it. i would also expect that each of these places of the ukrainian revolution, which we marked, which we installed, were marked with annotation boards, so that people would walk, see and know what was here. in the end it makes us stronger, that it is, on whom it depends, it is the kyiv authorities that decide the issue regarding memorials, you understand that politicians, they are sensitive to public sentiments, that is, to a large extent, it should come to the awareness of the people of kyiv, to the people, that it is necessary, and under their influence, the government will naturally fulfill their wishes, society's public, provide public expectations, and that's it... the book with those addresses, it was created in order to draw attention to these specific premises, specific houses and create some kind of interest in society,
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in kyiv citizenship, i think that we invested our five cents in this case, and the main thing is that there are prospects for the continuation of all this, if we take these soviet trials against the ukrainian intelligentsia, there is a trial. the all-ukrainian central insurgent committee, the cossack council of the right bank of ukraine, the union for the liberation of ukraine, the ukrainian national center, all these processes involved the cleansing of the ukrainian intelligentsia, the destruction of the ukrainian intelligentsia, and in these criminal cases there were their people they arrested houses, there are documents about the arrests, about the searches, there are still opportunities to establish new and new addresses and in order to record and mark them, i thank you very much. i thank you very much for collecting them, for making such a wonderful book, kyiv addresses, i would like to remind you that yaroslav feizulin and oleksandr kucheruk were
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guests of the program of proper names, and we cherish history with you, we remember that the liberation the war of the ukrainian people against the empire did not start today and not in the 14th year a very long, long story, and we see it. on the examples of the historical names of kyiv, which tell us that this war has been going on for over a century, be ukrainians, glory to ukraine,
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