whose name was mentioned in the congress, i think my colleague will be able to remind me, but when exactly this honorable gentleman was there, i wish you health, dear ukrainians, ukrainian women, today the whole day of meetings and negotiations in argentina, even more broadly, today ukraine was heard here and other countries of latin america, presented ukraine at the inauguration of the new president of argentina, held... the first talks with javier, today here in the squares and on the streets the words freedom, liberty were chanted a lot, and this is what tangibly unites us ukraine and argentina , our peoples, who value above all else freedom, their own identity, they strive to live, to live with dignity. career wants strength for his country, i felt he wants honesty in international relations, i thanked him for supporting ukraine. invited us to work

together for the restoration of peace, discussed bilateral cooperation between our countries, which can add economic strength and jobs for our peoples, a good bright meeting, i sincerely wish argentina the right decisions and sustainable growth, let there be less poverty, more strength, let freedom only grow, here and there in boynos ayresi held talks with three more leaders of the countries of the region. paraguay, uruguay, ecuador, discussed our international work, our cooperation with them. on the sidelines of the inauguration, he spoke with hungarian prime minister orbán as frankly as possible. and it is clear that about our european affairs. today, i had two telephone conversations with the president of france macron and the president of the european commission, ursula fonden, about joint work at the level of the european union, about the joint defense of europe.

grateful for the support, met with our community in argentina, with those ukrainians whose the roots here reach a depth of tens, tens of years, i am grateful for the preservation of our ukrainian culture, our identity, our language, i am grateful for the fact that the connection with ukraine is preserved despite the geography, despite any troubles. tomorrow and the day after tomorrow , together with the team, i will be in washington for scheduled meetings and negotiations. president biden, congress, important things, we use every day, every hour to give ukraine our people, more, to give more opportunities, to give more protection, more strength. i thank everyone who helps, thanks to everyone who fights and works for the interests of our state, our society, our freedom, our victory, glory to ukraine, sound like that.

are not done, because, well, for example, if we understand that another politician will become president there, then it can probably play against this speaker of the house of representatives, however, he openly supported trump, before that , declaring that he supported the territorial integrity of ukraine, he supported further military assistance , and this is also a certain aspect that if this is the case, well, the associate frankly insists that military support has to continue for ukraine, can this really mean that, let's say, rather skeptical. and donald trump to the provision of new military aid packages further, that this too can actually be there, well, his statements go against his real thoughts there, let's say there position. i believe that yes, the more that trump has consistently taken a position of confrontation with china, he understands that russia is now an ally of china and the victory of russia in this war, it significantly ... and china

has strengthened and weakened the authority of the united states of the united states of america on the world stage, despite the somewhat controversial nature of some of his statements, i think that donald trump still has a strategic understanding of what is happening in the world. mr. stanislav, despite everything, we have to prepare for different options. ukraine must understand that the united states can come to power in the united states... and any of the presidential candidates, if it is trump, then what policy should we build with his office right now, or do we wait and act according to the circumstances ? it is clear that we are, we, as the state of ukraine must work with both political camps, and this is understandable, because of course both internal and external will depend on who wins the election. us politics, are we

doing enough with both camps now, don't you think? i hope that taking into account certain experiences of the past, i think that this is being built up by working with different political forces. with both parties, with different politicians in a specific party, well, of course , for the sake of, if the representative of the republican party still wins, to be able to cooperate effectively in the future to solve the problems that exist, of course we have to concentrate a lot on the fact that we have common challenges, and actually this is the russian federation and china, and by the way, china is now getting closer and closer. is still before the union with the russian federation, this can play into ukraine's hand, taking into account the fact that the republican party itself, and of course, such representatives as donald trump, as vivica ramaslami, they say that china is a global challenge, and even we see in

the us strategic documents about it is said, that's why we should talk about the fact that we are fighting against all dictatorships that... or shall we say prefer to change the agenda on the international chessboard, and of course fight against them together, so i think that it is very it's important, it's important to emphasize this, but of course we have many other areas for cooperation, and i think that both the republican party and the democratic party, they are absolutely aware of what is threatening us, and i would like to point out, in general . the republican party always did such bold steps to actually settle certain problematic situations, so i think that this can be a certain kind of new impetus to fight together with those challenges

that are now, or that may be in the future, well, dmytro vasyliva, political consultant , we are now able to add, mr. dmytro, congratulations, i congratulate you, but in fact, katya raised a rather serious question, we understand that a certain mistake was already made by ukraine at one time , when, well, let's say this, representatives of the highest echelons of political power , in particular, they made a bet in advance on the wrong candidate who eventually occupied the oval office, but considering, again, these, er, these mistakes, so we remember many challenges from calls from donald trump regarding there investigations into corruption in ukraine, which concerns there, for example, to the family of president biden, yes, they say so, about some other aspects, as to which ukraine is currently turning a blind eye there and not, well, it is not currently involved in these matters, because we understand that currently there is a different government in the helm of the united states as far as, say, the present

ukraine is acting, in your opinion, consistently moving in the right direction there, and shall we not, let's say, spoil relations by supporting the democratic party? in the future if donald trump becomes president? eh , but i think that now ukraine is not stepping on the same rake, but this is some new history in ukraine, we are learning, and there is a clear understanding that the main thing in this matter is the american people, and the american people will choose either a president from the republican party, or the election of the president from the democratic party, so you need to work with a bipartisan... congress and the two-party system for now, mr. dmytro, i would just like to go into more detail, people, i think that the political leadership of ukraine is aware of this, and is already conducting sufficiently correct negotiations,

both with representatives of one party and with representatives of the other party , and as with the current leadership of the united states of america with white. as well as with representatives of congress, who are supposedly the opposition, but in principle already rule the lower house, yes, we are talking about mike johnson, because on december 4, it may depend on them what the decision will be adopted regarding ukraine, everything depends on the american people, everything depends on the wisdom of both our political class and the american one, and again, i think that everything is the same, but america will be... from its own interests, and we have to show that the victory of ukraine is in the absolute interest of the united states of america and the future of the world, and the leadership of the united states in this world, and it is obvious that the united states is the leader, it is obvious that this will be understood by both the president from the democrats and from

the republicans , who would be there? sir dmytro, well, analyzing the statements of those candidates who have already expressed their intention to run for the post of president of the united states, we can get some percentages. know, for example, there, the majority is in favor of further military support of ukraine, there and financial, or somewhere in the middle, but if we rely on statements, and again, well, we understand that both in the ranks of the democratic party and in the ranks of the republican . and there are people who are in favor of continuing this support, as for the candidates, yes, is there any fear in us that look there, i think that the political noise, yes, i apologize, i think that the political noise that we hear now in the public space, you don't need to pay too much attention to it, yes, the main thing is what happens in the offices, the main thing, what is happening quietly and representatives of... ukraine and representatives of the united states of america, both in the white house and in the congress, both in the car, not only in the white

house of the congress, but also in the headquarters of the two political forces that will nominate candidates, who will become president of the united states states, it is important what is happening there, because what we are hearing now in the public space is the struggle for the presidential post, and in this struggle there will be a lot of negativity towards ukraine, fatigue about the war. to ukraine and so on, and most importantly, we have to understand that here donald trump and the republican party, which will possibly support him as a presidential candidate, are starting from the position promoted by donald trump. america first is america first, and from this position, of course, resources come first for everything to stand out for america, this will be the political noise that will be until the election, the president in november next year, but who will become the president, whether it is a republican

or a democrat, it's all the same, i think that america and the american president will come out from the interests of america and the democratic world, and he will understand, mr. maksym, if you heard the main thing, this is the most important thing, yes, mr. maksym, if we talk about cooperation, communication with the republican party, with their office, do we have enough points of contact in ukraine , or maybe these points should be looked for, where to look for them, how to find them? i think that we have no problems in communication, because , first of all, there is the experience of communication, which ties have remained since the trump presidency, i think that these communication channels are available, in addition... there are many new ones channels appeared because, in fact, many of the same congressmen from the republicans, from

the republican party supported ukraine, they supported ukraine, and made some acquaintances with them, especially, understanding there is a fairly high level of reality that the candidate from the republican party will win, i think that after all these channels of communication ... are being strengthened, renewed, in fact very offended, because now, now it is really important not to step on the rake, that is, not to bet everything there on friendship with one party, but also taking into account that joe biden is now the president of the united states, not to overturn this story with the active search for some serious friendship with the republican party, it is necessary to act here . and as carefully and carefully as possible, in other words, to keep the balance, we understand you, but how

to react, for example, to the state of ukraine, how to react to such statements by the republicans , as ramaswamy is quite radical, let's put it this way, this is to say the least, in relation to ukraine, in relation to the united states states, and how should the united states of america respond to statements, i don't know oleg lyashko there, but somehow, somehow, his name hasn't been heard on the airwaves for a long time, it's because of what ramaswamy has. in this, at least, in the next, at least year , there is no chance to lead the state there, precisely because of that, and maybe because of that it is not worth paying attention, however, as a symptom , yes, that is, saying such things is not something seditious, so it turns out, talking about the fact that ukraine should sacrifice its territories, saying that it is necessary to stop support, i don’t know, well, i it is difficult to imagine that an american politician could afford something similar in the public space, for example, at the beginning of 2022, and especially. nothing has changed in the states there, it is a democratic country with

pluralism of opinion and there have always been various politicians with controversial statements, of course this is not a super popular position, ramoshami works for his part of the electorate, this is an extreme right-wing country, there are representatives of the extreme right movement, even for whom donald trump is not right-wing enough, not enough. yes, yes, yes, and therefore, well, such an electorate, it will always exist in any country, there will always be politicians who will... work for it, there is nothing super new or unexpected about it, i don't think that this is a symptom of some greater threat to us. mr. stanislav, let's now talk about elections in russia, or about the process they call elections. i liked the statement of putin's spokesman, when he was asked what the next president of russia should be, he

answered, like putin, or if different, but still like putin, well, that's roughly the quote there, and this is ... the first thesis , and the second - we are talking with you now against the background of all these conversations about the alleged death of a war criminal there, but how realistic is it in your opinion that putin will win, we will understand, but in the case , for example, his there is death and, if in the current realities another person comes to power, he will be like putin, well, it depends on who will take this power, now i think that everything is being done in order for the russian federation to receive exactly the environment that supports his... policy and which is ready to inherit it and actually implement it as it was under volodymyr putin, obviously it will not be identical, it is worth understanding, and i would like to remind here that just as boris yeltsin transferred power putin, if certain the first period he is possible somewhat tried to be in line

with the policy that was established during yeltsin's time, then he very quickly moved away from it, to a more radical and more... dictatorial dimension than it was actually under boris yeltsin, maybe this will be the case in russia federation, but there is one more important point, whether there will be hostilities at that time, of course we can predict that as of the presidential elections that will be held next year, they will continue, vladimir putin will obviously win them, but here's how will be in the future, how long he will rule this country and to whom he may be able to leave this state to actually inherit his rule, this is already a big question, and if at that time there will still be hostilities, then of course, maybe they will to act as it was during the putin regime, if not, well , everything depends on the circumstances, that is, there are a lot of variables here, and it is important to understand that

it is not so clear-cut, but we must understand that now... we one should not hope that this regime will change at all, prepare for further confrontation of the russian federation, even if another person ends up in the main chair of the president of russia, and actually try to find allies and expand their ranks in order to resist the aggression of the russian federation together. as one, as one of the other symptoms that we have seen recently, these are the statements that are coming from russia, which concern, in particular, the negotiations with... ukraine, and this trend, it is actually visible, putin himself is talking about it not only there at the g20 meeting, his assistant there ushakovy, the minister of defense of the occupiers shaigu, and patrushev also spoke about it, which has been very active lately. in general, what is this trend, what is this symptom, in your opinion? i think this is rather just a game of the russian federation, in fact, there are more hawkish tendencies, if you can say so, than

peace-making, most likely, it is just to be able to communicate. and external partners, including the people's republic of china, on which russia depends more and more, and we see that after all , china is not interested in complete defeat of the russian federation, but he is not interested in the outbreak of one or another wave of violence on the globe that harms china's interests, especially in the context of trade or economy. on the other hand, isn't the war in ukraine disadvantageous for china, diverting europe's attention, for example, from the state's assistance there in... in the case of the war for taiwan, for example, yes, but at the same time we, we must understand that china is very dependent from trade with the european union, and now it can also lose, and if in the future these ties are destroyed, then so is will affect the internal political and economic situation in china itself, we can see how strong inflationary processes and failures in

the economy are now, and of course this ends up being disadvantageous for the chinese, and that is why i think that he is still trying to find... a balance unlike russia, which actually puts this on display as if it is a peacekeeping activity, but in fact we understand that there is an interest in war, and above all it is putin who is interested, who wants to preserve his power, because we must understand that what is generally considered and even political science, which what exactly dictators, which declare wars, they do it in order to maintain their power, for example, this was also said by daniel treisman, a professor of... its power, unlike if the war ends. and if, moreover, it ends in victory, defeat or a draw, then the chances of maintaining this power are much less, we must understand that if russia now signs

a peace treaty with ukraine, it will actually be for her, if not a defeat, then in fact an undefined situation, and this may actually affect the positions of vladimir putin, so for now i see it only as populist or perhaps some other kind of statements on the part of certain representatives. the state machine of the russian federation, in fact they will continue to carry out russian aggression here in the future and we hope that it is the defeat of russia in this war that will stop its hostilities against ukraine. thank you, mr. stanislav, for your explanations. stanislav zhelikhovsky, candidate of political science, an international expert, joined us on the air. we thank you. thank you very much. in our country, let me remind you, maksym lysvitai is an expert, as well as an international contact person. mr. maksym, and recalling that... planned in the russian federation, a planned process that the civilized world calls elections, they have it in a different way, however, recalling them, the most famous

mustache of the kremlin, the press secretary of the criminal putin , apiskov, when he was asked if putin plans to go to the elections, he said that no official decision has been made yet, although, of course, experts also name other data. that a long time ago, whether in a bunker in the urals, or whether in the kremlin itself, this decision was made a long time ago, but they are waiting for what they are waiting for, for what moment, when there will be an official final statement that this is how putin is going to the elections, in your opinion, and you know, i've been following the politician of the russian federation for a long time, unfortunately for my psyche, this kind of game happens almost constantly there. and dances with prolonging the intrigue whether putin will run for office, but it always happens and it will happen here

also for one simple reason, like for us, for him it is victory or death, but precisely in the context of the election, because if we talk about the fact that this putin that we see is the same putin, yes, or even not, doesn't really matter. and for him there is only one way, it is to go to the elections again, of course to win, of which there is no doubt, because the elections in russia are an absolute fiction, and that's all, this is the only chance for him to preserve the system that exist and save your life. mr. maxim, why not yet? of this statement, i am going to the elections, why, what moment are they waiting for, well, it is clear that success on the front is obvious, and we hope for it in russia. you shouldn't wait for the near future, obviously you need to promise something to the people on the other side, maybe they are in a hurry, well, they don't talk and don't talk, you may not see any kind of conspiracy here, and

especially i don't think that they are waiting for some super key moment, they are pulling a bit of intrigue, allegedly in order to show that, well, after all, putin is not exactly a tsar, he there is still thinking about whether there will really be any elections there. it is quite possible that they are to some extent waiting for some good moment in order to announce that he will run for office in the wake of some successful case, there will be a successful case, they will not tell you what kind of successful case it is, maybe of what nature, we didn't want to, we didn't want to think about it in reality, uh, well, because it can relate to some or ukraine directly in a negative context for us , e. we hope that such a context is not there will be, well, or i don't know, there will be some kind of agreement with sydzenpinin or some kind of attempt again

to subject, to subject oneself in the international arena, to show that he is not a person whom everyone ignores, he also influences something there can negotiate with someone at the highest level, maybe somehow like this, that is , it will not be calculated for the internal consumer, it will be calculated specifically for... as you say, the international arena, the world community, no, internally, for the internal consumer, but exactly possibly using a context of some sort there, some kind of international agreement, i don’t know, they will sign some kind of agreement there with china on the construction of an underwater tunnel between crimea and the russian federation, and this will be presented as a great and geopolitical victory, and in principle, an infrastructure object that can also be presented, well, you had to smile at the word about the tunnel, but really, katya, explain,

explain your own jokes? this is a bad habit, we have the opportunity to bring dmytro vasiliev back in, we have to remind our viewers that next year the elections were to be held not only in states and russia, as well as in ukraine. however, despite the war, because of the war, this process will not take place, president volodymyr zelenskyi said, saying that the elections are not the right time now, we are talking about the parliamentary and presidential elections, and here is an interesting trend, we also remember appeals from the west, specific senators from the united states, who called on ukraine to hold an election process. despite the war, we remember that for a long enough time there was no unequivocal answer from our official authorities as to whether there will be such a process, we also remember dmitry's statements coleby, who talked about the fact that the president is still weighing all the pros and cons of such a process during the war, let's say this, first, how much do you think this decision that we are not holding elections in general can affect support, for example, from, for example, the united states, if possible, yes, and what do you think, well, let's say so, if you considered.

pros and cons, which were here, let's say, pros and cons, i think it's also interesting, well, the key cons are, how to hold elections on the contact line, and how to hold elections in the occupied territories, and how to ensure the suffrage of our soldiers, how to ensure the possibility of international observers to come and observe the elections there on the front lines, well, that is, there are a lot of uh... issues against, plus a constitutional clause that says that during war elections are not held because it will be a political conflict, it will destabilize civil society, or rather society in general, which will greatly affect our unity, and we must be united and unified, so these are key positions, why against, why should the elections be held, because there will really be a lot of political

strife on the part of our... our allies, we understand, we are now even returning to the united states of america, where the elections will be held, and we understand that ukraine is part of political struggle, more precisely, the issue of ukraine and the issue of aid to ukraine, is part of the political struggle between republicans and democrats, because there will be, well, some will talk about the fact that there is no democracy there, they will talk about corruption and so on, and they will be question, or continue? to support ukraine, and this is the key, the key challenge that we will need to overcome together, and ukraine will have to show that ukraine works not only for itself, ukraine works for the democratic world and for the leader of the democratic world, the united states of america and the european the union is a candidate for membership of the european union, and ukraine is forming one of the strongest armies in europe, which later became. a member of

the euro-atlantic community, and it is in the interests of our partners to support this army, therefore that we will support all members of the euro-atlantic community in the struggle and in the future challenges of the whole world, i think that these are the key issues that arise, perhaps, perhaps, our western partners and the united states of america, europe, will call on kyiv, the political leadership and the president of ukraine, to form a government of national unity, perhaps even it will be a government not from representatives of the political forces of the parliament, perhaps even from those leaders who are leaders of civil society and technocrats who can provide, well a new breath, there after march 24, in political life and in the management of the government itself, the executive power of the country, who knows, we will see, but for now it is definitely in... it is impossible

to hold elections, we need to be united, we need to unite and win this war, after the victory it is obvious that later we will be able to ensure the constitutional rights of the entire ukrainian people and all the players of the political process for the elections of ukraine, both presidential and parliamentary. mr. maksym, we can ask you, as an internationalist, whether you were actually in examples of world history when elections were held during war? "well, listen, it's a very good question, i think there were, to be honest, i can't remember right away, but i'll have to refresh my memory, well, including, if we're talking in the context of the fact that the war ours lasts not two years, but 10 years, so they were held in ukraine."