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or a dog when she was leaving home, so here an adult needs to work with his curiosity, first of all for what, secondly, well, as tolerant and ethical as possible, and what does it give to the child when she said this, well, not only talked about , she can paint, it's about the right to be together with one's experiences, because often even in our society there is such a mentality, such a set, to keep everything to oneself. and you are a boy, why are you crying, the boy is 6 years old, nothing for a minute, men do not cry, the man is at least 15 years old, well, oh, ugly people, oh, what are you doing, what are you going to do, don't cry , mom, it's so hard for her, it's basically a ban on any manifestation of your pain, your pity, or your joy, anything, so it's more about even our mindset, giving children the right.
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to be one's emotions, words, experiences , in the context of war it is even more intensified because the experience is intensified, the anxiety could be intensified, the fear could definitely be intensified, so it's more about that, helping the child because we see and accept it with all her emotions and what she wants to tell, and here really, well, it opens a lot... such unexpected, sometimes openings, the aircraft hit nine times, then hails started shooting, this is my house, wow, i see how my mother added us when we stopped at the first ukrainian... roadblock, there people
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didn't even force mom and dad to do something, and there was no one who said something wrong, that's all , they can kill you, i'm happy with life now, that the war has moved a little further from our city and it's not so audible выстрелы, и что уже хочая бы есть light, water and gas, how is it to endure 10 years, listen to children's stories, who do not actually have a childhood , but they adapt, well, this is my adaptation too , for sure, after the first nine months i just lay there, well, physically, and then worked through it, i myself worked with a psychologist then, and i still work and i'm working on my own pumping of opportunity, stability yes. to such types of stress, then this is
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simply the ability, already the internal possibility of such resistance and resilience to any manifestations or any unfolding of the situation or any story, and turned off the mode in itself to be surprised by anything in principle, well, that is, this when you admit that everything is possible, then there is no such thing as impossible, or that... you didn't even imagine what could happen, there is this mindset that everything is possible, and then my brain just works exclusively in a constructive way, what can be done about it, without losing empathy, no , i don't, because i'm still working with it, and i didn't talk about the topic itself, you know, that's how it happens, i'm all burnt out, i'm not anymore i can do it, i go into business there or something else, no, i don't lose it. ago
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that this is the interest of my whole life, there is not a day that i wake up and think, how come i'm tired of it all, because sometimes it's too much, sometimes it's really emotionally difficult, especially when you're a volunteer, now we already have a fund , we have salaries, and then this life is exclusively all that you can, you give, and you may not say thank you, moreover, and send and say that you also did everything wrong, that is, it is emotionally difficult, yes ? it's hard, but i've never had this feeling that i don't want to do it anymore, well, i love it, and i like the fact that friends, do you still distance yourself, there are many, well, many children, yes, in the beginning, of course, it was such a friendship, and we keep in touch with many children, two children whom we met in avdiivka, and they they lived there in the old part, they have already become older than 18 and are already working in our fund, there is even one such story. yes,
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rita is a girl, she works in the nashvukiv center with smaller children, she also sits, but kostya, he works at our camp programs, this is the result. with us, yes, which one you were waiting, they grew up with us, yes, then there is another girl there, masha, whom we met, she ran away from horlivka like that in her time, we met when she was still a child, now she is already a letter editor at our fund, too, she is on one she works from the channels , she studied to be a journalist, and she is also a letter editor on the background, and there are many children who have already graduated, you meet them there, they are in the seventh grade there, and now they are already in the second year and you no longer recognize them, that is, there are very a lot of such children with... with whom we somehow grew up for a very long time, the war generation, so yes, what children grew up who don't remember, probably, their childhood and without the war already, how it affected them, what can you say, well, i'm strong in particular, well, i think that everyone has
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it individually and depending on who what kind of support i received, i definitely saw that if you give a child the opportunity to fight against difficult circumstances, then this... plus, you definitely understand during the war that you can't think about children like tomorrow, how is that? well, children, our future, right now we will deal with the war here and there, and tomorrow you will grow up, and you will be just what you are here too, about children, especially during the war, you have to think only, only, only about today, today everything that can be helped and given to a child today, because everything you invest in them today, well actually. it will be like that tomorrow, but can parents not notice that there is a problem? they can, and we are currently working very hard on this very psychoeducation, er , how to notice such, well, bogus, yes situations and conditions with parents, with children, and parents are generally the first to see the child, and the child
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himself does not can come and recognize his need, everything goes through his parents, well, if we don't we are talking about 14+ there, when there is already awareness and understanding that this is adolescence, and until then, well... the child is completely dependent on what the parents recognize or see, this is very important, i remember very well i remember that in the 14th and 15th years, when it was generally a stigmatized topic, what a psychologist, everything is fine with us, well, so that there is no brand of mentally ill, well, yes, yes, or there you go to school, went to school , the headmistress cries for an hour about how everything they experienced was here, i'm like that, i say, then about the psychologist, she says: no, no, no, everything is normal with us, we, well, we are normal, that is, it was generally like, er... the wall, i walked then, really, how, how, how christians were persecuted , and those psychologists and i were kicked out of every school, but over time, yes, somehow everything started like that, and many very international organizations then trained psychologists, and a little bit of the program started, well, parents smoothed out
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this feeling a little bit for themselves, yes, well, it's normal, it's not sick, it's not a mental hospital, it's not tavro, go to a psychologist, now in 10 years, of course, yes, it is absolutely. it is normal to talk about psychological help , many people turn to you, but after february 24, many, many people turn to you, because parents have a very clear understanding of what is there, if you have a cough, you still understand how your child is, and with a panic attack, you no longer understand what to do with her, or if she started stuttering, or if an 11-year-old child urinates in the bed, then it becomes such a problem, i don’t understand what to do here at all, that’s why a lot of people turn to me, very . you have art therapy, i saw, and i was interested in what you offered to children and did, they wrote scripts, they even shot movies, so i am interested in what they make movies about, and
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how much they respond to it, and how they feel when you offer them to make your own film, well, yes, this is such an interesting project, we have a lot of such programs, which seem to be related to psychological rehabilitation. psychosocial rehabilitation, but they are not about direct work with a psychologist, but about other tools to be heard, seen and experience their emotions, so for those teenagers, for whom it is important to tell something more, and it is important to present yourself and create some kind of community based on interests, we create such projects, and this is one of them, a scriptwriting course of such skill, with marisa niktyuk, she is a screenwriter and director. and we had a psychologist at every lesson so that, if the child has a very difficult situation like this, to help, yes, this is also a method through training one's skills, well, the child, for example, she is a teenager, she was interested
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writing a script, it is in principle literary wants to develop, the war came, put an end to all her wishes, because no one cares about it, and a teenager experiences it. it is very difficult, because for him it was meaningful, well, meaningful, and therefore it is important to create such opportunities for teenagers to develop and still maintain their interest, because maintaining this healthy interest is maintaining interest in life in principle, if you lose, then there is nothing for you to do anymore, it is very easy to lose this interest in life in principle, to become depressed, and then in teenagers can get it, and in principle, even in children, there are others that are more degrading, well, processes that do not allow them to develop normally, so this project is about helping the child keep his faith in what he can create , in this case, the script, now we have opened a musical group, and the children are also studying works
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of folk music and there, too, they are making a film in this course about screenwriting skills, it was born at the end of athawk, that is, the children wrote, wrote the script and that’s it, we didn’t plan this but they are like oh, so let's shoot, well, let's support and they themselves created and shot this picture, and this is again an opportunity to give. i was seven when my parents feared for
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our lives, now i'm 16, and then this loneliness, 11 rockets launched on kramatorsk in one night. clinging to the ground with my hands and feet. i will take root, i will sprout, i will let the moss become my skin, the flower will grow from my heart, where are you? contributed to the film, which was nominated for an oscar. we were part of the ukrainian azad team
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safarov as the second director and i as the local coordinator. yes, this is a film that we shot in lysiachansk, and the most painful thing right now is that it is impossible to go to lysiachansk because it is occupied, and it is probably the last footage of lysiachansk filmed in good quality in this particular film. and children are not easy, children are not easy, because this is such a center for psychosocial rehabilitation, they are spent. to this center for nine months, and during these months they either lose their parents, because the court decided to deprive the parents of their parental rights, and they will either adopted, or they will transfer to another institution, some kind of boarding school, or the parents will improve a little during these nine months, well, today i called anzhelika nikolaevna, and i want to tell you the good news, tomorrow grandma will pick you up, right? this
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is such a transition period, yes, in which the child is placed in this center, and the children are aged from three to 17, that is, at the age of three, it was very difficult, very difficult, and the war is nearby, and the social situation is so deep, well, that is, it is a completely social, yes, topic. but what was not nominated, but not given an oscar, do you think it's a loss, or did your children hear, well, well, oscar, the oscar ceremony and the red carpet, it's... some kind of parallel universe that exists, somewhere everyone gathers, and here is the house of communication, yes , and there is such a heavy
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social topic, i think it is a very great achievement that we came to the top five in the nomination, and this is already recognition, because there one out of five is this, and these five are from million, yes, so that's a very high estimate, and we got, well, i know the director got... a lot of feedback about the incredible artistic value and the quality of this film, because there is no staged shot, no intended dialogue or... any acted scene, none, and this is the greatest value of this film, because there the children seem to be playing, playing, living their lives in front of the camera, night as if they don't notice her, and the guys filmed using such a very technology that allowed them to practically dissolve in the space where the children were and just film their emotions,
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so there is absolute satisfaction in the fact that the film was recognized and received a nomination, that's it. .. very high professional recognition, namely these children who have no parents, orphans , in such shelters, they were targeted by russia during the great war, how traumatizing it is for a child, when he is simply taken and simply taken to another country, and they say, now you will live here, and then as the goods are handed over, and you will live with these parents who adopt, yes, or simply in an orphanage, well, to say that it is very difficult. situation, it is impossible to say whether it is trauma, well, i really hope that someday all the people who were in the chain of forced deportation, kidnapping and moving children to russia, they will be in prison for the rest of their days, because this is already a trauma, and the longer the children are in
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russia, the worse it is, literally, the clock is just ticking. reverse direction, further? that there is in ukraine, that in russia, it is obvious, the children see and understand that something has happened, they were taken from somewhere, they are starting to build a new reality, the children we met, who returned, this is an absolute distrust of the environment the world, because you, well, not only that, when you live in an occupation, you you get used to the fact that you can't trust , you can't say too many words... you can't , you have to carefully filter what you say to whom, and carefully watch who you can trust at all , who is your friend, who is your enemy, in occupation, yes, here you are also transported to a completely different country, everyone wants something from you, some actions and events begin to develop around you, and it is very difficult
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to return later, that is, to roll everything back to zero to to to to... position, very difficult , because there are those children who could undergo certain torture there, or be finished there, if we think that when we return to ukraine, their problems will end, we will not, and the key here should be the establishment of justice, it is key, both for those children, for those parents, for all those people who became victims, and for the international community, and for others tyrants or dictators. who will think that this is normal, you can do this and never receive punishment for it, this is the restoration of justice, it is extremely important and punishment, certainly for everyone, yes, who is it as a cure for these injuries, someone may have their own version of events, someone may not believe in something, c believe something, interpret differently,
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listen to different interpretations, propaganda does not sleep, and children there hear different versions. it has to be like, i don't know, after world war ii , nazism was condemned period, there's no debate, it just has to go away and everybody gets punished for it, the same is very important to us here, it was a crime, it's an international crime, and all the culprits will sit for him. you spoke at the un, did you tell them about it? yes, it was an event dedicated to, within the framework of the general assembly, there were side events dedicated to various things, and it was a pra... precisely the event is dedicated to children with an emphasis on the issue of deportation and forced removal, well, we, as public activists, we spoke there as a public organization about our work, about our needs, and emphasized that, well, the clock is ticking not in anyone's favor, the longer the delay situation with return, establishment of justice, liberation of territories, the
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worse for everyone. despite what the children are going through in connection with russian aggression, their voices sound not only with fear, but also with strength, and this is what the children taught me: believe in yourself you have been heard , of course we would like things to be more active, for those organizations that have a mandate to go to moscow and send our children back by train, because we all understand very clearly that no one from ukraine can go there... go, well we as a public cannot go there, no ukrainian government can go there, but there are organizations that have international mandates, yes there are icrc, un organizations, well that is, but everyone definitely understands about who violates the rights of children, how they violate children's rights, i think ukraine, and in principle, the war in ukraine will introduce
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many, i think, adjustments to the way international institutions should work in the context of child protection, and we are working hard to ensure that in all possible international reports, monitoring, we tell everyone everything that we see, we declare everything that is happening, and i think we will influence what we will be with... international instruments, and these voices of children, they are testimony, they are evidence, they can be used, or children are not considered witnesses, the children's testimony itself is now recorded and transmitted and has yes, they just have to be collected in an ethical and correct way allowed by law, that is, the child cannot be taken for questioning about everything that he experienced there, and in order for them to become a case before an international judge, they must be taken in the appropriate way, yes to the appropriate person who has the right to take, yes, that is, it is all there, the prosecutor's office and so on, that is
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, the work is going on and all these testimonies, they will definitely become testimonies in the case, and the voices of the children will be heard, sometimes i feel guilty that i am happy with life, while there is a war in ukraine. this is what we are about we talk to a psychologist, he says, we will overcome it. despite everything, i am glad that i can smile again. i would like to ask for a few more signs for parents who will watch this interview, when it is necessary to sound the alarm, when it is necessary to go to you, to your foundation, to psychologists, to seek help from the outside. if the child's behavior changes dramatically, i don't know, yes, yes, if he already slept alone, he doesn't sleep by himself at all, but the mother understands, yes, a change in behavior, she feels that
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something has changed, it's better not, not so don't let it, it's better to come here and to consult what happened, well , the appearance of external signs in the child, which may be there, i don't know, stuttering, neurotic, there may be various such manifestations, yes, or the parents see and understand. that it was a very vivid traumatic event, which most likely will not pass, but i don't know, everyone was in the house and the bomb hit the roof and they barely survived, well, if it's better here not to think that everything will pass, probably not, often now there are appeals from mothers, from the wives of soldiers who died at the front, and they do not know how to talk about it with their children, uh, if you don't understand... how to tell the children that the father died or went missing, and the situations are very different, for example, we also had a case where the father
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went missing and they can conduct a dna examination for months, and obviously , that the family lives in a slightly abnormal, yes state, so it is better here, if you see that the child is really going through it very hard, the mother turned to us, because the child from... well, that is already, well, you don't know, yes to explain to her that this was and she had a strong protest that this had happened, all children got the experience of the war in ukraine, regardless of whether you were under the bombs or your dad joined the army, this is the experience of the war, it is generally the number one profession in ukraine, soon you will become a social worker, teacher, psychologist, because this there will be a request from every , practically every family, well... maybe , quoting you, a final tip, how not to get off track, not to worry too much about tomorrow, because we don't control tomorrow, we
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don't know it, it's already will be as it will be, but today you can definitely find it there is a lot of meaning to living a full life, a lot, and if i bring myself back to today, back to what i can influence today, what i can change today, i will not postpone the purchase until sometime very later , and i will do it today, i will not put off any important words until much later, but i will say them today, if you bring yourself back to the situation today, you regain control, because you can really influence what to say , you can really influence what what to do today, of course there, understanding that and you need to plan the future and everything, but reduce this anxiety about the future, because really when... you think about the future , it seems to you that your whole life will probably not be normal, and we will all live like this and mourn, and after that you can skip
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today's beautiful axis. and a day without shelling and our meeting, i am very glad that you came, i am very grateful to you for your work and for these 10 years, you will have the least amount of work, but you manage everything, thank you. tsn week mazor hall. an unexpected meeting.
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javier miele is being inaugurated. the future president supports ukraine and can become a driver of a pro-ukrainian position in the global south, at least thanks to the visit of volodymyr zelenskyi already met with the presidents of paraguay , uruguay, ecuador, the prime minister of cabo verde, spoke on the phone with emmanuel macron, realizing that the eu is now the main military donor, while in the usa it is a time of uncertainty, and most interestingly, the cameras recorded a short meeting between zelensky and orban, details conversations are currently unknown, but not even the tiniest bit of progress. relations with hungary against the background of the opening of negotiations on ukraine's accession to the eu next week is now important. do not be silent, captivity kills. relatives of prisoners held an action across ukraine today. they are in kyiv lined up in a lively corridor on the embankment, reminding ukraine and the world about the russian hostages. a silent protest took place in lviv on the square near the opera house. in total, such gatherings were held in 11 cities. another
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promotion called "lost". the meeting took place on maidan nezalezhnosti, those who were captured themselves came here, in particular military medic taira and former spokesman of azov valery subotina. they say that neither ukraine nor the world has the right to forget about those whom the russians torture and keep in inhumane conditions. the bethlehem fire is already in ukraine. ukrainian platoon fighters brought the flame of peace to sofia of kyiv. dozens of children and our soldiers gathered to watch the lighting of the symbol of warmth and support. it was in... ukrainian defenders were the first to receive the fire to send it to all corners of the front line, then this fire will be sent to the central station, from where it will go to all ukrainian cities by night trains. this has never happened before in our country, six metro stations were closed for six months this week. demiivska, holosiivska, vasylkivska, exhibition.

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