council, yes, on the one hand, a number of important laws or draft laws were passed, and let's hope that the president of ukraine will sign them, on the other hand, there were things that, so to speak, may not be implemented at all, in particular, it is about canceling the right clazovoy, but also a signal from the head of the presidential party, such an influential ukrainian politician, david arahamia, says that people's deputies are gathering en masse to submit their mandates. what kind of trend is this in the verkhovna rada, what can it be connected with, and how large-scale it is can this be a phenomenon? well, it already exists , it is extraordinary, and it is an anti-record in the history of ukraine's independence, because there are 400 people's deputies left, with a constitutional majority of 300, so it is already risky, moreover, some of those people's deputies are at the front and not. constantly attend session

meetings, often go on business trips, because they are members of pare and other international institutions, because of that there is actually a risk, how can draft laws be passed qualitatively, on the other hand, this once again indicates that the level of authority and status of the people's the deputy is falling, and in connection with the fact that... a number of laws were passed, including the removal of parliamentary immunity, the removal of privileges, etc., which suggests that today being a people's deputy and performing one's duties well relations are not so simple anymore, because of that, we have what we have, and i think that david arahamya, he knows more, probably among the monomajority, there are factions of them who also want to draft a mandate, i... think

that somewhere so , by the spring we will still lose, according to my calculations, up to 30 people's deputies, and why, forgive me, what is the internal those people may have a motivation, i.e. that people's deputies are somehow more scrutinized there by some law enforcement agencies, or i don't know if this is connected with the declaration, but in any case it does not exempt them, therefore that they will be peps for life, such politically important persons, over whom one or another will be carried out. anti-corruption experiments and, in any case, constant monitoring will also be, why do they want to compile? well, first of all, everyone has their own motives: on the one hand, the one who was before engaged in business and had high expectations from the mandate of a people's deputy, he was disappointed, because he realized that it is not so simple, the other component is what we said that today law enforcement agencies do not make exceptions, and some people already feel it. ..

deputies on themselves, we see in the public sphere, and on the other hand, a people's deputy, it has already become such, you know, like a soldier, like a kind of stigma, as only a people's deputy, this is necessarily negative, although still once again, we are in society and in the future let's get to the point that the position of a people's deputy will not be easy, but work, it is not just a mandate, but hard work, as it should be, because... writing, preparing, defending bills is not so easy, and it cannot can be done by anyone, and this is from soviet times, this idea came from the leninsky days, that every cook can run the state, and in the verkhovna rada there had to be representatives of all strata of the population, from collective farmers, workers, to academics, because and this is not the wrong approach. and it is very important to understand this

our voters should elect to the verkhovna rada those people who have, firstly, professional experience, secondly, life experience, and thirdly, they have already shown certain results at their previous place of work, this is my personal opinion. sir , lieutenant general, today ukrainians were also shaken by the cyber attack on the kyivstar operator, and the sbu itself is already investigating this case and does not rule out treason . the fact that we have such a situation, and that speaks for sure about the fact that we somehow underestimated the enemy in terms of the fact that he can make such cyber attacks on our strategic infrastructure, including what do you think about it? undoubtedly, war has different aspects, from real clashes on the battlefield, from information attacks, including such sabotage, and... or attacks, cyber attacks on

protected or not completely protected systems. the security service did initiate criminal proceedings, as far as my memory serves everyone. or eight articles, it is important, including treason, that is, there is, for sure operative information that one of the employees of this structure could betray the interests of the state, this is a very important component, because kyivstar is one of the largest networks that had access not only to the subscriber numbers of ukrainian citizens, but also to state structures, this network was connected to many structures of local authorities and the state and state authorities, because of that this is a very serious situation, and i emphasize once again that the state, unfortunately, was not ready or some of its organs for such a turn of events, the load immediately went away

more on another structure, and you know, after all, we as a state have to have alternatives. starling is not always an alternative, you need to think about other communication networks. if we talk about state protected communication systems, this does not apply to them, that is, there are things that are protected, and the enemy has not reached there yet, but we can feel the consequences, and it is important that the security service, security and other law. the authorities reacted immediately, and the council of national security and defense, i am sure, will react, draw conclusions so that it does not happen again in the future, because we are not only talking about the system of such a network, we are talking about the banking system,

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espresso tv channel's information day continues in the studio of people's deputy of ukraine mykhailo tsimbalyuk, first deputy chairman of the verkhovna rada's committee on social policy and rights protection. the lieutenant general of the reserve militia, so the verkhovna rada is now preparing update of the mobilization legislation and we understand that the main developer is the legendary ukrainian politician, mp mariana bezugla, who, as far as we understand, even managed to dismiss the president's representative in the verkhovna rada, fedor vanislavsky, well, that 's gossip, rumors and so on, mr. mykhailo, what... what innovations could mrs. bezugla form and , in general, what about the other committees that have to

evaluate all these things? well, i'm pleasantly surprised that you value so highly the possibilities of influence of one of our colleagues in the session hall, but in fact it is not so. those changes to the law on mobilization, the law on demobilization, on... social guarantees for military personnel are being prepared by representatives of all factions and groups in the verkhovna rada, because a working group has been created on this matter, and we must agree on all of them with representatives of the general staff and others military formations. mr. mykhailo, allow me to add to our conversation solomiya bobrovska, people's deputy of ukraine, members of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence. welcome to espresso. glory to ukraine, congratulations. so, we have two people's deputies , and it is very good, because we have the opportunity to discuss very important issues for

many ukrainians, in recent days we have seen a significant response regarding the invitation of tsc employees to sports halls, to certain recreation complexes and so on, and we understand , that the situation with mobilization needs to be regulated at the legislative level, because sometimes employees of tsc, be it are frank, exceed their powers, and the first question actually concerns whether ... the new legislation will stipulate exactly what red lines will be defined for tsc employees, how they should behave, something to the effect that there will be no those conflicts that we have to learn about from telegram channels, let's first you, ms. solomi, and then, mr. mykhailo, i will ask you to react as well, in fact, there are no sensitive lines at the moment, because the draft law is not ready yet, and it has not even been discussed within the committee, it the draft has not been discussed to the end, but i emphasize once again... that the law will pay attention, in particular, to the role of local self-government bodies and state

authorities regarding the notification and the need to appear in the tcc, this is the first and second there was a discussion, not knowing whether this option would be accepted, that in case of refusal to appear, then the national police has the right to interfere and deliver to the shopping center. we are currently waiting for further proposals from the ministry of defense and the general staff. about, well, about the actual form of mobilization, but such things, they absolutely unacceptable, i know that just the other day, people complained when, when a 22-year-old guy is stopped in zakarpattia, sent to the vlk, despite the fact that he is 22 years old, and some fines are issued when a person refuses to go on a business trip, that is, the whole this bezpred, it must pass, pass, and in fact, when the mobilization failed on us, the story with the gyms is not a panacea, it is temporary. will not arrive, for example, there are still some, some other establishments will not be allowed, but this will not be tolerated, because

we must first of all understand exactly the core of why people don't want to serve, and they don't want to, because they don't understand how long they have to serve, how long the rotation will last, and the behavior of the commanders, the situation at the front, in fact, today it's just off the charts, one of the most difficult is behind extreme year, but such things are definitely unacceptable and... well, it does not contribute to the mobilization of the word at all. mr. michael? i agree with my colleague, but these two things are connected when we talk about the fact that soldiers cannot... be 24 months without rest on the front line, when we talk about rotation, when we talk about demobilization of certain categories of citizens, then we must talk about high-quality mobilization, the methods used today are not acceptable by all, i am also against this, but we must clearly write the rules of the game, and the new

leadership of the ministry of defense offers options, this is through recruiting. campaigns, that is, today we have to tell the citizens of ukraine two things: first, if you want to serve on a contract or through mobilization, you have the right to choose according to your profession, where you want to serve, in what position, and sign contract and have a guarantee that you will be drafted into the unit in which you want to serve, and the second thing that my colleague said, we must clearly... tell the citizens of ukraine: you are being mobilized for such a period. today, several numbers are being discussed: 18 months, 24, 36, that is, this is the period after which a mobilized person has the right to demobilize, a right, not an obligation, whoever wants to can continue to serve, but a citizen of ukraine must clearly

know how much he will serve mobilized, because unfortunately... already feel that the war is dragging on, and we have to clearly tell the citizens, and all those other issues are being discussed today, and we are discussing, i think, i want to believe that already this year we will pass a bill on the social protection of military personnel, where there are 90 days, everyone who is released from captivity, leave and other categories, so far this is all being discussed, there are certain proposals, i think that the people's deputies support them, the problem here is that this draft law should be included in the agenda, should give with the consent of the council, which includes all representatives of the faction of groups of the verkhovna rada. thank you, mr. mykhailo, solomiya bobrovska is in touch with us, she is a member of the verkhovna rada committee on national security, defense and intelligence, well, accordingly, we would like

to ask about the climate in your glorious committee, we understand what is there.. two antagonists, so to speak: fedir venislavskyi, maryana bezugla. maryana bezugla, yes, well , she pedaled several things, in particular , she worked out her versions and some of her proposals regarding, regarding changes to the legislation mobilization yes, fedir vienislavskyi is no longer the representative of the president of ukraine in the verkhovna rada. well, he says that he has many other additional duties, so we would like to ask mrs. solomia, what is going on in the committee there now? i... don't know about the kitchen, about my colleague fyodor vienislavskyi, and whether he should be sympathized or congratulated that such powers and responsibilities have been removed from him, but returning to matters in the committee, i want to say that according to my memory for the last three weeks there was no committee, there were, there was no quorum when the question of

the military-industrial complex was considered one of the last times there, but neither last week nor this week we are currently aware of the committee. ah, and here is such a strange story in our country, when the head of the committee, despite the fact that there are numerical questions, there are questions for the new commander of the medical forces, there are questions about mobilization, there are questions about the second reading of the bill, which delimits the powers of the chief of the general staff and the minister of defense, there is a question of a new commander of special operations forces, i.e. there are a lot of issues, but we do not gather committees, knowing that there is a conflict. uh, with my colleague, and here are such strange metamorphoses, we do not understand whether it is intentional, or whether it is some kind of weak, weak work, i think it is unacceptable, but this is how our story has been going for the last three weeks, this is the first, and the second, i would like to return for a moment to literally the previous question, i would like to urge those who are interested in mobilization to go to the website

work.ua and see the section of service in the armed forces of ukraine and a completely civilian approach. to the recruitment of people, a service where there is a clear salary, where the duties are prescribed, where the vacancies, military specialties are prescribed and it looks as civil, democratic as possible, i believe that these are options for those people who are still willing to come to the service voluntarily, it is absolutely has to justify itself, and indeed there are inquiries through the sitewor, and i think it's such a very good story of productive success between the ministry of defense and business, which have become actually such a bridgehead and ... a platform for for for for mobilization. mrs. solomia, forgive me, but this is also important, and now is being discussed, i understand that the legislation is still being worked out, but regarding the facilities. points of exemption from military service , we are talking about certain students, we are talking about certain people who have to care for loved ones with a certain disability, are certain restrictions being prepared, let's say, and certain restrictions for

those who are currently entitled to a deferment, but will lose when this law is voted, what categories of citizens will it apply to? as for students, so it will be a postponement, for those who get the second, third, eighth, there 28 education, we have seen how the number of people is growing exponentially, especially those who are 35 plus, and sharply in the last two years, the last two years have been spent on obtaining an education, they will lose the postponement from the beginning of the new academic year, further mobilization postponements for those released after captivity, who will have the right to be released, accordingly, and receive a reprieve, then the question is really the guardians, but the first such family circle, such close people, will have the right to... it is for guardianship and, accordingly, for them it will be have all these lines will act, regarding those with limited suitability , there are still discussions about this, and at the moment there is no decision

, but i also wanted to clarify about students, perhaps mr. mykhailo will answer what applies to students in general and whether it could be the case that, conditionally speaking, studying in a higher educational institution will become , well, let's say this, is not such a reason that gives the right from the line, because even on twitter, there are a lot of discussions about this. and they say that students need to be mobilized, how do you feel about this? well actually as far as i know, the legislation does not provide for the acquisition of the first higher or pre-higher education for all those under 30 years old, that is, there will not be any special changes, and this applies to all those students who entered the school after the educational institution, moreover, we clearly in the legislation, we emphasize who has the right among the teachers. that is, all teachers, including those of ordinary education, will also have the right to a postponement, that is , it seems to me that there is neither mitigation nor deterioration here, it simply emphasizes the fact that

there are still doubts today, and everyone he interprets who he wants as he wants, according to students clearly, the second and third higher educations are omitted, the one who entered, he will finish his studies, there is no discussion about post-graduate students, we are talking about those who get the second and third higher educations. students who are getting a first, higher or pre -higher education, no one is supposed to mobilize them yet in the legislation. we are in touch with solomiya bobrovska, and accordingly we would like to ask ms. solomiya also about no less important things, in particular, when we talk about our mobilization legislation, we understand that extremes often become who, representatives of the tsc, although the responsibility lies in a certain legislative field, we understand it that way. what about, for example , the issue of administrative fines that could be raised, well, proportionally, so to speak, to certain violations, because we understand that, well, they are trying to make moneylenders extreme,

we understand that there are certain inflections, we understand that well the system isn't perfect, well, but any system isn't perfect, how about changing liability for violations, i'm not ready to comment at the moment, i'm in... saying this questions regarding the change in the responsibility of the offense, but i want to emphasize one important thing: you are right, when stones are fairly often thrown into the garden of the tcc and very often in certain areas, for example, in the southern or eastern or northern or extreme western regions of our transcarpathia, this is a continuous some kind of corruption guarantee and i am not a supporter of putting combat brigades on regional or city commandos, because these are different profiles of activity and it is not about... uh, well, these are just different profiles of work, but i still really i would like to note that when we talk about mobilization and we need to recruit people, i would also like us to talk about

responsibility, including the military, because commanders, yes, because very often people want for example, they go, they go and they have successful cases to the commanders, and to the team, why, for example, part of the national guard charter, or the third separate separate assault brigade or... sometimes the same one, they are successful in their recruiting and in its staffing and staffing, because people go for the idea, in symbols, and this is faith, this is passion, this is motivation, and i would very much like to correct this history together with the ground forces, the dshv, including the marines and so on, so that this is also an indicator of ee quality, adequacy of commanders and teams, not just perception. people as a resource that was brought, brought in, there will be new ones, and such a use is not just unfaithful

, but very often somewhere. competition and irresponsible, so i would still talk about this angle, although it is not popular media, but between people, but we also need to talk about this, because this is not technology, we will not build people, and we will not give birth to men so that they go to war, become high-caliber fighters, well, mykhailo tsimbalyuk is in our studio, well, and accordingly, we would also like to ask you about the social consequences for the mobilized and for those who... for example, under a contract, well, we understand, so very often, when it comes to compensation, when it comes to disability and the corresponding pensions, we have certain disagreements, although a person could lose the new one being mobilized, and the one, for example , his brother who was on a contract or was a regular military serviceman, well, he has an order of magnitude more, somehow they are trying to balance this matter, well, first of all, i want to say that the addition of what we talked about here,

what do we foresee... in this draft law , the demobilization of all those with disabilities of the first and second groups, unfortunately, today's legislation does not provide for a list of certain diseases, that is, these people will be subject to immediate demobilization, so that unload budget and give these people the opportunity to rehabilitate in civilian life. if we talk about the social package, discussions are also ongoing today, and we believe that we should... additionally, in addition to vacations, by the way, 30 days are provided after capture with that, and the right, we have already talked about it, the right to demobilize at will, if does not want to continue his service, we also provide for 24 months if he has served, and 12 months of them are on the front lines, as well as 90 days of continuous rest, this is being discussed, but i think that this norm will pass and people's deputies

support in the session hall, but in order to demobilize these people, we need to recruit a high-quality team, that is, mobilize people, conduct serious training in order to adequately protect those who today really need both rotation and partial demobilization, we will finish today's broadcast little by little, thank you solomiya bobrovsky, people's deputy of ukraine, member of the verkhovna rada committee on national security. of defense and intelligence, which joined our conversation, thanks to you, and mr. mykhailo, left just a few minutes, actually , what else could we omit from this legislation, what else would you like to convey to our viewers, what they should understand about the change in the order of mobilization, well, first of all , it is important that the gaps of the former military commanders regarding the registration of all

military personnel i emphasize once again, there are a lot of comments to the representatives of the territorial procurement centers, but the delivery of a summons does not mean immediate mobilization, putting on the record, we are expanding the powers of those who have to stand on record, these are those former military personnel who served in the armed forces of other countries, not ukraine, so far they are not on the record, they are also previously convicted, they must also be on the military record. therefore, it is very important to understand that all men of draft age must register for the military. to date, the most important thing that we have missed is the demobilization of conscripts, this is very important, these people have long served what they should have, for this we need to make changes to several laws, and we are working on it now we are working, and after that there should be a

presidential decree on demobilization. persons during martial law, those who served military service, this is also an important moment, mykhailo sambalyuk, people's deputy of ukraine, first deputy chairman of the committee on social policy, protection of veterans' rights, lieutenant general of the police, and antin borkovskii and i already today we say goodbye, tomorrow we will see each other, leave it with espresso, leave it with espresso, and have a peaceful evening everyone. greetings, dear viewers, i am naeva melnyk, this is news, and together with the espressa team, i will tell you about the most relevant events at the moment, the president.