well, we hope no less , because today it is very important, on the example of these events that have happened now, to understand the right ones, to draw the right conclusions for the next year and to strengthen our diplomacy, not only with such narrow, you know, very refined trips, but to expand them with a large number people, to attract those diplomats who may not be in power now, but they have their own histories of relations, because there are so many... today , both in europe and america, it is actually based on these histories of relations that the countries, including by different people, that is attract the maximum number of people so that we retain support and give us funds in the first place, with which we can equip our front with weapons, because first of all we do not forget that we have a key problem - this is war, to fight a war without enough heavy weapons and ammunition is very difficult.

thank you, ms. oksana, you are talking , ms. oksana, about diplomacy, about the expansion of diplomacy, including, as i understand it, parliamentary diplomacy, because all deputies, except for the deputies of the servants of the people, have some limited access to the event, well, to put it roughly, about that is, about some events and events that are happening in the world, literally in a few days. of such a broad diplomatic front, as it is indicated, is zelensky's government, a monopoly, they believe that everything should be concentrated in one hand and should be clearly there according to the directives, you also work according to the directives, you work as a single team ukrainian, right? you know, today we were included in a meeting with the swedish rikstad, because i work in the committee on... foreign affairs, and

of course we discussed with our swedish colleagues and military aid, sweden here is one of the leaders of such assistance to us, starting with shells and ending with airplanes, and among those participants in this conversation were our colleagues from the osce parliamentary assembly, menedcha stefanchuk, together with the delegation, was not even allowed to attend the official events of the osce parliamentary assembly , is observational. there were elections in poland, and the autumn session in armenia, where there was a large american delegation, and we planned to hold many bilateral events there, but i am a stateswoman, and of course, during this during our conversation, we talked only about aid to ukraine, the military component, humanitarian, exchange, illegal deportation of children, sanctions, nato. since it is still important

for ukraine even after sweden joins nato, so that ukraine becomes next, we are statesmen, and it is obvious that we always speak with one voice on all our external platforms, protecting the interests of ukraine, in the same it is absolutely right that ukraine should develop as a democratic state, and if we are talking about solutions of the european council, it will be based on the report of the european commission. which consists not only of seven points, which ukraine has actually fulfilled, and the report is 143 pages, where a lot is said about freedom of speech, and about self-government, and about democracy, and it is very important that the authorities realize that reading reports and the recommendations of the european side of our partners are needed not only on the front page, but in full. it is very fair to note that the issue of foreign policy is not only inter-parliamentary diplomacy.

whether the involvement of broad there representatives, for example, when poroshenko was working on keeping tomos for ukraine , president yushchenko, who has great authority in certain circles, in certain countries, was involved in this difficult conversation, this difficult work, and he had such an informal , unofficial mission there to conduct certain negotiations, and it is obvious that today is the stage in the country when the government is wise to bring together everyone who has the knack... experience, contacts, friends, so that we work on several tracks, not only the united states, the conjuncture is really changing the world in other directions, and here we need to unite and not just preserve the anti-putin coalition, but strengthen it, next year is the year of elections in the world, elections will be held in more than 70 countries, including the countries of the european union and elections to the european parliament and in russia itself , by the way, russia has already announced that it will hold... presidential elections in

the occupied territories of ukraine, so we already have to talk about the non-recognition of these elections, they will be illegal, and actually this is a very important work, where it is necessary... to be able to work not with cavalry charges , but the problem is that the authorities have really reached the last in the united states, and when this magic does not work, there is only a speech and such a message from ukraine with a cavalry charge in the last two weeks , they tried to break it the situation at this time, when it was necessary to work systematically with the republicans, with the democrats, in order to really get this help in september-october, when it was more realistic, and therefore... of course, now we need to do everything conclusions from these mistakes, these are just internal conclusions, strengthen the diplomatic team , we should have a foreign minister, he is not there today, i'm sorry, where is the minister of foreign affairs, where did he disappear, when was he last in parliament, when was he last in touch with deputies

about the challenges facing the country today for the next year, it is not normal when only the office deals with diplomacy, it is obvious that the administration of the president... has always been involved very seriously in the external vector, but it cannot take it upon itself powers and the ministry of foreign affairs and the parliament, well, as for the parliament , you know, i have something to compare it with, this is really not my first convocation, and i am very sorry when today, with such tacit consent of the leadership of the parliament, it is zeroed out, it loses its weight, authority, this is wrong, and i think that despite the fact that on the outside... always with one voice, we always talk only about the protection of ukraine, and our national interest internally, we must be honest, with each other and honest before the country , and draw conclusions from very many errors and the last thing, pay attention, the senators today after the meeting with zelenskyi

made such a short message that it was a good meeting, it was a strong meeting, the president there very strongly presented the position regarding the needs of the military in ukraine, but... they also talked about corruption , and it is normal when the american side or the european side want to have transparency in the use of funds, and the parliament should play a role in this kind of monitoring and spending of funds, both from the ukrainian and western budgets key role, because the function of the parliament is controlling, and it has been destroyed today, and i think that if the president would emphasize that there is a parliament, it is a representative body, pay attention when at... american delegations, they are always bipartisan, it republicans are democrats, there is only one party wearing hoodies, well somehow it all really looks very strange, and yes , i think we should strengthen these trends in ukraine, democracy, parliamentarism, thank you, mr. oleksiy, we have already mentioned this summit

of the eurocouncil and about decisions that may be, and they may not be, but what the eurocouncil decides is, in your opinion, more politics or more? no, i think that first of all there will be politics, i don't want to disappoint anyone, i have my own point of view, i can unfortunately state that i am not very optimistic about the speed of ukraine's entry into the european union. i really understand all the problems of the energy complex, housing and communal, economic, but today i spent three hours at a meeting of the headquarters of the energy subheading. premiere, you know, well, i'm under the impression, i'm not all there i can tell you, the only thing i am grateful for is finally at least such a calm professional conversation, because i was not invited there for a year or a year and a half, because i criticized, you know, the energy sector, well, i was not invited for a year and a half, but today

i was invited, i i think i was useful there and gave relevant comments and advice, but the situation is extremely difficult, and to say that now when i hear everything... say, from the authorities, that our energy sector is currently in the first place in terms of european integration, it is everything is definitely not right, it is a great pity, we all are we feel, yes, well, a banal, banal question, we have minus two on the street and there is already a shortage of power, there is not enough coal as usual, scandal after corruption scandal, today is another scandal with the energy center, the president's office is involved there, everything is as usual, that is, until which i lead, but politically the go-ahead must be given. that's how they start this procedure with us, it won't be easy, as far as i'm concerned, and primarily due to the fact that ukraine, well, not you, is not doing its homework, it's more formally trying to cover them, you understand , close there are some positions there, to adopt something, but

i always ask the question, it is enough to adopt european laws, we need them to work in ukraine, but we have a huge problem with this, by the way, the problem is the understanding of many ukrainians that membership in the eu is it's not just such a powerful right, it's her huge team of duties. to the citizens, to the european union, that is , it is a responsibility, and now i want to quickly comment, i will tell you honestly, i have had a relationship with pyotr oleksiyovych there since 1998, when we were there in the third convocation were, and then in our ukraine and so on, but i was so annoyed by this artificial scandal , which they made, no matter how you treat it, this is the president of ukraine, this is the president , an authoritative person there, and he is not

released, and for what, i at all i still didn't understand, well, how can you do that, but we saw mr. zelenskyy's opportunity, petr oleksiiovych is accused of being almost a traitor there, that he and orban are going to talk , even though orban is the president of a european country - i'm sorry, prime minister, yes, well leader and premier'. a european country, you know who do we want, like it or not, we don’t like him, but by the way, we understand this situation, yes, and that’s why we see that zelensky is also trying to prove something to orban at the meeting in argentina, and that is, these double standards , well, they, they definitely do not consider now in this situation, although i will tell you honestly, as a person, i am now a deputy, and i have to corporately protect our body, and i agree with ms. irina that... well, below the plinth is really drove away this verkhovna rada and authority, it's a shame

to say that you're a deputy, it's just a shame, you see, i do not hope for myself there that the colleagues who are there now, they know their worth, they are professionals and all, but the level of this verkhovna rada is dropping, well, like never before, i have been several times, four times, you know, in different periods, but from the point of view of the coordination of these relations, i am the former. i know for sure and i like to deal exclusively with my business, with what i was entrusted with, well, that's how i was trained in the government, you see, and i am convinced that there must definitely be a certain coordination of the actions of the various deputies there, because the deputies in our they really like freedom there, you understand, well, here it is definitely desirable that there should be some logic, coordination, cooperation between deputies of different groups. so to speak, which will not harm, but will be of maximum benefit to ukraine

, but definitely limit communication with the united states exclusively to our brilliant servants of the people, well, excuse me, i am saying in quotation marks, well, this is some kind of childhood savagery, you understand, well, just childhood, that's all, and that's why i don't like all this land, and i think it's bad. when such an institution is losing its authority, because we are really moving towards very dangerous management processes in the state, everyone understands about them today. thank you, mr. oleksiy, ladies and gentlemen, let's take a short break, literally for a minute, return to the studio and continue our conversation. ordinary things become unreal. heavy bags are not for my sore back, for back pain, try dolgit cream.

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states of america , the summit will be held simultaneously on december 14-15. where will the eurocouncil be? to make a decision about the future , the european future of ukraine, or rather, about the opening of negotiations, this stage is quite large, voluminous, but in this case it should be about consensus about a consensus decision, that is, the countries of the european union must say that ukraine is really ready, or has every opportunity to become a member of the european union. during our program we are not asking you about the european union, we are asking you about the local government, we are asking you whether you trust the local government, yes, no, it is quite simple, if you are in front of the tv, pick it up smartphone and vote: 0800-211381, if you are for it, if you trust the local authorities, if you don't, 0800 211 382, ​​during

the entire broadcast we will vote, at the end of the program we will sum up the results. before voting, we also vote on youtube. oksana savchuk, iryna gerashchenko, oleksiy kuchyrenko, people's deputies of ukraine, are our guests today. we have already started talking about the role of the parliament and how the parliament helps, or whether it fulfills its role. just a few days ago , david arahamia said that they they are simply detaining people's deputies of ukraine , that many people's deputies want to draw up mandates, well... horror, horror, horror, almost like in that joke, well, arahamia for some reason decided that his main task is to detain everyone and warn these people's deputies that you can't draw up deputy mandates, i don't know how many of these people there are, i don't know, david probably doesn't know either, but he's holding someone there, in a word. ms. oksano,

how do you perceive such statements and does this not discredit the parliament? as the supreme legislative body, we still live in parliamentary-presidential republic, and according to the constitution, the parliament has enough powers, people's deputies of ukraine also have enough powers, and the highest legislative body forms the government and forms the majority, forms the government, that is, to be honest, every interview of david rahamiya makes me think about the essence of existence, political existence in general, because i get something new from him every time. i will find out, well, you know, i am first of all, by the way, a majority deputy, and i have always been a majority deputy, even when i was in the city council of ivano-frankivsk, so this is, you know, a conscious choice and the work that we have been doing for years, so it seems to me that there are people who got on the lists and became people's elected officials who

were not ready for it, that is, they thought that it was either entertainment, or just... someone had to close the lists when they were submitted to the central election commission before the parliamentary elections, and this is ultimately visible in the results of the work, because many of us feed bills, work, justify, we even reconciled somewhere with the fact that we register bills and they become the basis for what the ruling party rewrites and registers on the basis of us. others, but, you know, we have a war, so a lot of things, uh, are now on the back burner, but the basic things remain the first priority, the first, of course, is democracy, it's really never been in parliament that one faction has such a large number, in fact a monomajority, and today the er,

monomajority has complete power, because they are single-handedly responsible for everything, the only thing is... there really aren't enough votes, and they deputy groups insure. the most unfortunate thing in this situation is that these are, after all, the riga deputy groups, sorry for such slang, but this is a fact of the opzzhists, who were given the opportunity to form two deputy groups, although in those groups there are people's elected representatives from the people's servants, and in general everything , what sometimes happens, whether one of the deputies is caught for corruption, or some of them make up their... powers as a member of the servants of the people faction, they then calmly, you know, come to the parliament, sit on those the seats themselves, they do not move anywhere and continue to vote for bunison with... actually the ruling party, therefore, if we are talking about those colleagues who are not ready, i will tell you honestly, if there are any, i really advise them to draw up a mandate and

that's it , and those who are ready, and there are many of them, and today it can be seen from the votes, uh, then they should continue to fulfill their duty, because if it is not so easy and difficult for our soldiers at the front, then they continue to do our work and our task to do ours... the only point is this that we still manage not to the end, you know, to put this parliament under our feet, so that we really, including the opposition forces, are united in such difficult bills that await us, and believe me, what we the day after tomorrow will not take the european union in the literal sense, i want our viewers to understand that, this is still a very long and long work, and every bill that we vote on... it should be first of all not only for the sake of us, to we were accepted into the european union, because it is important, but so that ours were also taken into account national interests, the interests of our

farmer, the interests of our doctor, teacher, and agricultural agrarian, that is, it is very important to find this formula when we take into account the interests of our citizens and do not violate the basic foundations that lie in... in the european union, in european legislation, there must be people's elected representatives who are ready to deal with this, thank you, ms. oksano, ms. iryna, arahamii also said that they should serve a sentence, there is such a phrase, they should serve a sentence, as if they were just put there and very- very such was the expression they have a hard time, we will reveal the secret, maybe to the audience there. esu and present, present guests, you and i studied together at the university and found, yes, there was still such a period at the beginning, when there was the soviet union and

in these compulsory subjects there, i don't remember which subjects, but i entered remember, there is a story that they studied makarenko's pedagogy, colonies for difficult teenagers, but sometimes when i look at monobolshe it seems to me that this is such a branch, you know, it is a colony for difficult teenagers. and which ones are needed with a whip and a gingerbread man to educate, arkhamia is trying to imagine everything in such a way, but i don’t know how it turns out, seriously, yes , there is no majority, and there is no vote, unfortunately, where the servant of the people would give 226 votes, and this is a tragedy, because well, there aren’t 226 votes, but actually, when it ’s european laws, here the hall is consolidated and they give about 300 votes, when it’s some kind of... such nonsense as pdfu to select and give it to some pseudo correct, actually corrupt structures, then here really these groups

the latecomers are voting, and this is actually a problem , and we see that people were recruited from the street to the list, indeed half, but the very work of the parliament is abnormal today, when it works three plenary days a month, although we say, let's go back to two plenary days. .. it is normal to follow the laws for weeks, work on them professionally and so on, but people gathered when they are random, worked for a day, got overtired and ran away. the second problem is, indeed, if the scribes from the servant of the people rise above and enter in the council, and there they still have this semblance of a faction, then when the majority deputies go, and the majority of the majority deputies are servants of the people, they simply disintegrate. the construction itself, and that is why the situation is so difficult for them, that is why i think that in reality davyd georgiyovych should not talk about how he can keep

the deputies on the ropes, tie them to their workplaces with ropes, someone should carry the political responsibility responsibility for how this list was formed, because it is really not ideological, it is unprofessional, and this is a trouble and a problem, well and if we do not have a majority, we return to the important topic that it is a fiction. and therefore, all the more, it is necessary to form a government of national unity that could give answers, well, not only that to work in the morning until the evening, for intellectual answers to the challenges facing the country, thank you, thank you, ms. iryna, ms., mr. oleksiyu, is it even realistic to say or prove the fact itself the fact that it does not exist for the majority. and to really start reformatting , including the majority, and accordingly, the creation of a government of national trust has already passed a long time ago and we have already talked about it more than once on

the air. and probably what would be logical to do? first of all, i just want to appeal to all ukrainians, dear ukrainians, never again repeat this experiment of 19th year with votes on a joke, on the lines of someone there for those whom you do not know who they are and what they are, because really, what are you typing? do you understand how it was necessary to form 200 or 60 people there in two months. and that in the districts they are the same, and kyiv suffered , i don’t want to say the names, but the people of kyiv got the full program, themselves now, be responsible for your vote, 13:13, sorry, eh, that’s why we are coming back, what is not in they have been in the majority for a long time, it is obvious, i follow and count, well, a lot of votes, not a single

vote. for them to have 30-35 votes opzzh here are these two groups there, what are they called, restoration, renewal, who are they there, well you understand, yes there are 30-35 votes, without it practically no law is voted on, and it is clear that under beautiful slogans there is always something lobbying, corruption, on the verge of a scheme and so on and the like, there are definitely two, well i don’t want to to offend no one else and... there is a professional faction of the eu, there is a professional homeland, we, we very carefully work out the draft laws, we are looking for a block there, we really have heated discussions, you understand, and when we no longer vote for it, it means that you can't vote for it, when it's really of national importance bills, they get 300 votes each, only thanks to the fact that the whole, including the patriotic factions, to which i refer us

, they. they support this, the market is key for you, without opzh no voting takes place, as for 20 seconds, we have 20 seconds on the air, as for that, look, i don’t know what you can do with this coalition to convince you that you really need a technocratic government, around which you can gather 250 conditionally deputies, who would work stably professionally with this lesson. oleksiy kucherenko, oksana savchuk, iryna gerashchenko, you were the guests of our program today, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in the program, and the meeting between biden and zelenskyi began, biden has already announced that he signed an agreement to allocate 200 million dollars to ukraine, and said that he will not leave ukraine. friends, we have to finish this program, during the program we asked you

this, do you trust? local authorities, now we will see what the results of this survey are, please show the numbers, so 23% trust, 73, 77 do not trust, these are the results of the survey, this was the verdict program, congratulations serhiy rudenko, i wish everyone good health, take care of yourself and your relatives, goodbye. do ordinary things become unreal? heavy bags are not for my sore back. for back pain, try dolgit cream. long-acting cream relieves pain, reduces swelling and improves joint mobility. with the cream dolgit, whatever you want, i will lift. dolgit - the only yellow cream for joint and back pain. a good tradition.