hryvnias per liter, now we see that this month our traders have found new routes, found new transport to bring, and accordingly the market has become saturated and we see that now the price is falling, well, such a pique is real, especially in the wholesale market, on in the wholesale market, the price has fallen, it seems that over the last week by somewhere by 30%, accordingly , prices are creeping down every day and on... i hope that soon we will again see a price tag of less than uah 30 per liter for this palm tree, ugh, and what are the forecasts for the end of the month for gas and fuel, let's give it 95, po we are waiting for gasoline, i think that the price should drop to uah 3 somewhere before the end of the month, i think that many networks will trade for less than uah 50 per liter, according to the dispál, i think that... there will also be many networks diving there

below this mark, well, liquefied gas is the main one, so to speak, the main type of fuel, currently, we hope that we will see less than uah 30 per liter by the end of december, you know, as they say, your forecasts and the gods half an ear, thank you for joining, serhii kuyun, director of the a-95 consulting group. let's continue ours air and we will talk about the situation in temporarily occupied. in part of the luhansk region, because there people are freezing without heating. deaths are recorded in the region , the center of national resistance reports. we will discuss the situation in the temporarily occupied luhansk region with artem lysohor, the head of the luhansk regional military administration. mr. artem, our congratulations to you, glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes, good evening with you studio. mr. artem, can you tell us more about the temporary situation? occupied in luhansk oblast, to what we added,

about the fact that there are signs of cold snaps, and from that there are deaths, in general, how is life there at the moment, well , the cold snap, yes, the cold snap is felt everywhere, including on the contact line in recent days , due to the weather , the enemy's unmanned aerial vehicles have lost a little, which made the work of our guys a little easier, but the ground attacks do not stop, the enemy is attacking, but the guys stand still... they protect our borders, our settlements and deter the enemy , what also applies to people, who are in the occupied territory , yes, there are indeed problems, what we have already reported more than once, about the fact that neither electricity, nor gas, nor firewood, any kind of fuel, was provided by the occupying power, it is only playing in promises and only in the deterioration of the situation, well, with people, especially with food, with humanitarian affairs, including the quality of housing. communal, because no one

is going to do anything, only the harsh policy of russia is just beginning, if they used to talk about the easy, easy annexation of new territories, now territory, the situation in those territories is more similar to russia, because if citizens were promised reregistration, well, as an example, reregistration of all their vehicles with ukrainian license plates, including lpr license plates, by december 1, 26. year, what was adopted by the russian federation, but yesterday it was already announced, as if by the ministry, that no, this will not happen, by january 1, 2024, all cars must be re-registered, including with insurance, with transfer, well, including people, again, this is a compulsion to obtain passports, in order to obtain technical certificates, because they have already declared that no passes for driving to settlements where there are roadblocks will be issued if the car is not re-registered

, what are the consequences if the car is not re-registered? eh, look, up to the seizure of what was said, well, between the citizens, yes, for the benefit, for the benefit of the terrorist military forces that are there, and if people simply do not reregister these cars, then of course they will be taken to the penalty area, and besides, people they won't even be able to move on them, because they won't be able to reach the roadblocks anywhere, there is a system of reposts everywhere at all entrances to cities that are on... that is, people will simply not be let out, not let in from their homes, but i think , that most likely machines can simply, can simply pick up terrorist troops. understood, heard. thank you, mr. artem, for this information, whatever it is, yes, but it is, unfortunately, artem lysogohor, the head of the luhansk regional military administration was with us in touch shivoronoi, approaching

victory. "dear dad, thank you, mom, thank you, my brother, thank you, sergeant aunt valya, thank you very, very much, thank you for protecting me, mother and our dog, our home, our country, and i ask you, very, very much, protect st. nicholas, so that he brings presents to me. and to all the children. thank you for jesus, that ukraine can celebrate holidays. sonechka, how are you? now you are scared, we are not even close at school.

you know what i do when i am nervous , i remember or pick up my symbol of power. it can be anything. a pebble, a memory, a photo in the phone. i look at him, feel what... to touch or remember everything to the smallest details, and i feel better, i relax, and even breathing becomes easier, do as dad and mom, and it will become easier, on havario.com, caring people from the mental health program , you and their friends from unicef have collected tips on how to help yourself and your child cope with stress. rules of a warm country, bathroom. thank you for passing through the night in low temperatures. by loading the drum as much as possible, we will win winter together do you just need to stop shooting? no, it doesn't happen like that, blood will be here, and they will start making non-standard decisions.

look, the russian army can't handle ukraine, so why should nato be afraid? unfortunately, there is no turning back in history? yes, let's clarify here, you are also talking about the borders of ukraine. at the very borders of ukraine. what do you mean? mr. portnik, i welcome you to the public. thank you very much for your time. you and i are meeting, it happened in december, that is, we can already talk about such certain summaries. and when i was preparing, i thought about the fact that the expectations for 2023 were partly such that this year could become to some extent decisive. western media talked about it. we heard, for example, from the head of ukrainian intelligence that... there could be decisive battles, we heard from, for example, the president of the czech republic, petr pavel, that this year could be decisive from a military point of view, because the next one will be more difficult, or really, according to you opinion, this year was decisive for the russian-ukrainian war, and if so,

what did it affect? i think maybe this one we will call the year decisive if the war drags on for years. and we will say that 2023 just demonstrated that this is a long war. because if in 2022 there were illusions that this war might not last long, these were only illusions, but of course we wanted to adhere to them, then in 2023 such illusions disappeared, but i will tell you honestly, already in 2022 many people said that there certain historical statistics, wars that continue for more than 6-7 months, without any real result, usually then continue for eight to 10 years. and we are in 2022 this year the equator has already been crossed, we just didn't want to see it, because we didn't answer the question of how the war would end in 2022

. victory, we said that this victory is the exit of ukraine to the borders of 1991, i still agree with this today, but we did not talk about why the war should end on this very occasion, because this is a logical postulate: we are entering we are restoring the borders of 1991 our constitutional borders, and this is our victory over the aggressor, but where does it say that this is the end of the war, why can't russian troops continue fighting? and let's say on the line of the state border of ukraine, who will be banned, why can't missile attacks or drone attacks continue, if ukrainian troops are standing on the state borders of ukraine. where do these conclusions come from? and here

begins the delusion, our dreams: if we go to the borders of 1991, the russian regime will fall, the russians will rise up. putin will die that is, the moment when we achieve the desired result for us, for unknown reasons, everything around changes, but that's it. it is absolutely not a political and political construction, it is simply our desire, which has nothing to do with objective processes. the fact that the ukrainian society had these illusions or delusions in the 22nd year, and that partly, i think, no one will argue, they were fueled by some media, some politicians, the military-political leadership of ukraine, this is bad, or is it inevitable maybe after all, you are politically military because you are military. the leadership in the person of general zaluzhnyi and general zabrodsky, in that article from 2022, clearly

said that it would be a long war. the military leadership had no special illusions. is it bad that the 22nd year was like this, or was it possible to pass the 22nd year without these ideas that we can do this? no, it is impossible, because if the society is traumatized by the war, all the more so since we are dealing with a society that once again invented itself before it. the ukrainian government is interested in the war, and we can come to an agreement with russia, if society lives in such a fictional world, we can stop building the road, but then, spend money on the army, but what will happen to the roads then, you remember all these theses, well, this society is not then... can just say to themselves, this is a child, in fact, such a big child, the child has to say to himself: oh, i

screwed up, no, it doesn't happen like that, people have to come to this exhibition over time, but after all, volodymyr zelenskyi has changed a lot after february 24, 2022, you haven't it seems, well, he was forced to change, because the whole concept of the world, with which he not only came to the election, but with which he lived, simply collapsed, but this does not mean that so what... how does a person who is forced to change to make decisions that they never even suspected in their lives, the whole society changes and every person who is not responsible for such decisions is a completely different process, much slower, so that the changes in the minds of those people who make decisions, although now we see that these too the changes are not so significant as one might have thought last year, what exactly, well, we see what we have there under the insignificance of changes, what? you mean that the political leadership hasn't changed completely, you know, because i don't see a government of national unity,

i don't see a military cabinet, i don't see leaders of national democratic forces next to volodymyr zelenskyi, i don't see everything what the leaders of warring countries do, as a rule, what we saw, let's say on the example of the state of israel, it is true, the first thing that benjamin netanyahu did, he proposed to create a military cabinet and invited the leaders of the opposition to this cabinet, we did not see all of this, which means that these people are not real. now, in the 23rd year, or perhaps we are already talking about the 24th, transformations should take place, perhaps also in the public rhetoric of the political leadership of ukraine regarding the war. you know, i think least of all about rhetoric, because i believe, in general, if you will, that no words change reality. we pay a lot of attention to words, appeals, speeches, etc we believe that it has some significance, but it does. influenced our perception of the war in the 22nd year, i think that the words influenced our perception of the war in the 22nd year, because

we wanted to hear them, i did not see any address of the president of ukraine to the citizens, i read the texts out of professional necessity , but i didn't think i should watch it, i don't see any blog, any of the advisers of the office of the president of ukraine, because these are words, i 'm interested in facts, this city was liberated, this is a fact, this region was liberated, this fact, and this region occupied, this is also a fact, the troops are standing on the confrontation line, this is a fact for me, ukrainian troops broke through the russian defense line and entered another territory occupied by the russians, this is a fact for me , what the politicians say about this, i am not interested in what comes of it the western media write the reason, i am not very interested either, they can write anything they want, in 2022, that ukraine is doomed to victory, in 2023, that putin can win this victory if the west does not help ukraine, but... .the facts will be much more important than all the texts and words spoken during this war. therefore,

in general, as a person who works with words, i trust facts, not words. in general , i believe that politics is like criminology, it is the science of accomplished facts. in politics, you can talk only with verbs, adjectives have no meaning. regarding the western media, let me clarify, is it just that we are now observing this decline in interest in the russian-ukrainian war in the western media, and there is, of course... fear that this may affect, in particular, the decisions of politicians in the usa, in european capitals, or there specifically in brussels regarding support for ukraine, do you think the activity... the presence of the topic of the russian-ukrainian war in the western media can really affect the future of, for example, military aid? i think this is what we talked about in 2022, that is, what we saw in 2023, that if the war is long, the degree of public attention to this war will decrease, and if the interest of the people decreases, the interest of the media will decrease,

so that media are business projects, they work for an audience, and that's absolutely it is obvious that when... time passes and nothing happens that can be put on the first column, another interesting story appears on the first column, i will remind you again the simple principle of journalism, because this is journalism, you see, not visionaries and don’t preach it in the church, interesting news, when a man attacked a dog, and not when a dog attacked a man, this is maxim markatven, it applies to all wars, then let’s... look at the situation, we convinced ourselves, and the event i did that too, by the way that the president of ukraine speaks in the parliaments of all countries, and this creates a background for public assistance, and i always said: there is no need for these illusions, even if the president did not make a single speech in any of the parliaments, it would be the same, because

the real public attention and support was not based on the president's speeches, which, by the way, were very good... from the point of view of the text and execution in these parliaments, it was all butcha, butcha, that is, so long, not so long, it would have ended in four - 5 months, but it was not only buchi, it was later raisin, there were many facts, mass atrocities, repressions against the civilian population, then people went on a bombing raid. people freezing last winter, the suffering of the civilian population, it always attracts attention, but the suffering continues, no, completely different, no, i'm sorry, you say strange things to me, that our army did not stop the russians, that you now you see the russians in some new occupied territory, that you

now see some new roff with bodies, this is our victory, that the ukrainian army, the defense forces of ukraine... give opportunities to the russians to occupy new regions and destroy the civilian population, and that is the focus, fortunately there is no such thing, but also the support is decreasing, because people do not see it, and i have to tell you that i saw it during the yugoslav war, when until serebrenita there was no interest in the western citizen in the fact that this war would end sooner, the war is near. in the east, which we are all witnessing now, look at the immediate attention when everyone saw the atrocities of hamas against israel, and the flip side, the suffering of the civilian population gasses, and the other side comes out on the streets , talking about this suffering, no one talks about the fact that a certain number of hamas fighters died in the tragedy, but everyone

talks about women and children, this is what public attention in the west is based on. in societies traumatized by two world wars, because they carry with them the memory of the suffering of the civilian population, especially during the second world war, and this, i was convinced of this more than once, more than twice, when i covered previous wars, we you noted this connection between media interest, which is related to the public interest, but will there be a decrease in the attention of the western media, or will there be, in principle, the attention of the world media to the russian-ukrainian war? the decrease in support by governments, for example, the united states, or , for example, the european one, it already depends on the political conjunctures, and again, the increase in support occurs when society supports it, votes for a politician who wants to provide this support, because he sympathizes with this person in bomb shelter, does he want the military to take revenge, relatively speaking, for

a person who was killed and raped in a bush, when in society has other priorities, as the republicans say, america, let 's give money to america, to the border with mexico, then this means that, of course, there will be less support, this, there is nothing to talk about here, so we talked about it again even in 2022, that we have a certain distance of this public support, we want to increase support, i will give you a simple recipe for increasing support, russian troops break through somewhere, kill a certain number of civilians there , there is mass suffering, mass bombings. they would their own village cut out to get more money, but we are not russians, so what is the effect, by the way, you remember that the russians always say, still say, that we specially organized

the operation in butch, together with the british , laid the whole there was support, that is , the russians know exactly what the support is based on, they think of their categories, of course, they think, how would they do to get money? they would decompose the bodies, we or the british would not even think of such a thing, but the russians always live in such a world that someone decomposes bodies to get money, to things, i want to remind you that the end of the second world war, when the scale of the holocaust became apparent, actually pushed the ten-year question of the bombing of peaceful cities in germany. about the crimes against the german civilian population during the passage of the soviet army, because when it all started, everyone said, what are you telling us about, look, you created a machine

for the destruction of people, you destroyed an entire european people, and you tell us about some bombings, and only after 30-40 years did people realize that this is also a crime, that if you are a citizen of a country that commits such s... terrible crimes, part of this system, it does not mean that they have you, that a girl should be raped and killed, it does not justify absolutely one atrocity, it does not justify another. returning to the realities that you are talking about, and to the reality that ukraine must accept, in particular, regarding the world's perception of the russian-ukrainian war, how can ukraine in these conditions secure itself and maintain, for example, a certain level. the supply of military and financial aid in conditions where the reality is such, it depends on the political will of the west , i say this all the time, but it is necessary to work with it, but taking into account the realities, and how

to work, when you say to work with the usa, with the leadership of the european union, what should it be, it is some kind of routine systemic work, not media work, not professions before the parliament, of course, the very idea that can be won through speeches and lectures. it's not, it's not political and it's not professional, that's not how all this works, this, and by the way, this was shown by the last nato summit, remember how it almost didn't the fiasco of our diplomacy ended because the president decided, perhaps the president's entourage, that he could achieve a result through a public, public discussion on social networks with the heads of nato countries. political work is real. diplomacy at the lobby level, this is the constant presence of ukrainian politicians in contact with their western colleagues, when the chairman of the verkhovna

rada issues a business trip and decides which of the deputies of the opposition factions can go somewhere, who cannot, when there is a former the president of ukraine is stopped at the border because someone there has the idea that he can gain more authority than some would like. we don't know if these are real reasons, that's what we were told, at least as of the moment when you and i are recording this interview, we really haven't received an explanation why petro poroshenko won't leave, but it 's not the first time this has happened, and the very idea of ​​not allowing deputies to go abroad is an absolute idea that destroys all ukrainian efforts when ukrainian officials say that ukraine should be represented by the president, the chairman of the verkhovna rada and the prime minister, all other political tourists, they basically nullify all our even theoretical possibilities. to receive any real help, i tell you once again, this is all due to the fact that ukrainians do not understand that politics cannot be learned, it is professional work, and it is a skill,

and a ukrainian can vote for any person who will be elected to any -what position, but this does not mean that this person will be able to perform his duties professionally in this position, so you can choose a surgeon for your own operation, decide that this surgeon can be your barber who diligently...makes you beautiful every week when you come in, but unfortunately it can happen that this person in whom you so trust your hair, give you a bad surgery, and unfortunately, you will die and never get to the hair salon again. the ukrainian idea of ​​politics reminds me very much of this idea of ​​medicine. now, when you used this comparison, this metaphor, you were talking about volodymyr zelensky? i was talking about attitudes towards politics in general, why do we personalize someone, what? volodymyr zelenskyi is the only person who has never been involved in politics, suddenly got involved, our entire political infrastructure is built like this, look at the parliament, look at the renewal of the deputy

corps that took place. in 2019 , one way or another, volodymyr zelenskyi is a person known to the general public, the people who voted for him, let them vote for the image, but they saw this person on their television screens during decades, and when they went and voted for deputies, they generally voted for people about whom they never knew anything, a political program of which they were completely unaware, they simply voted and persuaded solidarity so that the deputies had someone who was not was, well, now we are, as a result , when it comes to... chances to save the country and the state, to save, because i say once again, this is the issue of the so-called final solution of the ukrainian issue to the russians, it is not just that, we we can lose a part there territory, no, this is a completely different story, whether there will be a ukrainian state on this territory, whether russia will be here, whether ukrainians will live on this territory, at this moment we are suddenly faced with the challenge that we do not have the expertise to deal with this or that challenge, and

instead we'll discuss all kinds of... damn blizzard , for example, will there be an election or not next year, listen, well, with the election in general, this informational excuse, i think, appeared to a large extent after the american said about it senator who came to kyiv, he said that the elections should be held in the 24th year, it seems to me that they have been saying this until now, and the entire political elite discussed the issue of elections before the arrival of this american senate, which was behind these conversations at your opinion, the desire to be re-elected, i think many fear that after the war the ratings will be completely different, attention to some closed polls, how do i know, i just see that many people live as if there is not just a war, but as if there is no such confrontation, russia is absolutely to itself calmly, persistently, like a snake, waiting when it will be possible to digest all this, and we pretend that we live in a normal world, we don't, and by the way, i

generally think that maybe... us it is worth realizing that we cannot return to the past, first of all we have to deal with it somehow, i.e. it won't happen before, it won't happen before, but it won't happen before even from the point of view of international law, so i was very confused , to be honest, the last days when i followed the visit of sergey lavrov to skopje for the session of the organization on security and cooperation in europe, and when everyone said that it is very necessary for him to come so that the work of this organization is not blocked, the osce is an organization that exists solely because the geltsin act of 940-75 was signed, and in this act it was absolutely clearly emphasized that there is no violation of the borders of european countries, european, as you understand, on other continents, it did not look like that, it is only the result of an agreement in europe, because there are

disputed territories in asia. in latin america there are conventionally established borders, but we know that there one country looks suspiciously at another, in africa they simply decided that there will be such borders after decolonization, but this does not prevent some countries there from breaking up into parts or fighting with each other for territories, and here to meet skop' the minister of foreign affairs of the country that violated it is coming, and all of them are ready to talk to this minister and do what you want. why does the osce exist, well, not all of them, some of the ministers there seemed to be boycotting, well, listen, it is possible to hold these meetings without ministers, but i have another question, why do you need the osce? what is the point of the helsinki action, if you simply don't have it anymore, if the very essence of the integrity of borders is destroyed, if one country destroyed the borders of another, annexed it, that's the most important thing, there were conflicts before,

annexed. foreign territory to you, you not only did not exclude it from the osce, but you even discuss with it how the osce will function in the future? well, here you can always use the argument that the hungarian leadership is actively using now, they say that here we are a window for dialogue, do you understand what the matter is? i think that the issue is not in dialogue, in that we all cling to the past, and ukraine is no exception here, we always say that we want to return to our internationally recognized borders. and other countries want to say that they want to return to international law, it is practically the same, they talk about international law, we talk about osce international law, one of the foundations of international law, unfortunately, there is no way to go back in history , yes, let's clarify here, you are here and you are talking about the borders of ukraine, of course, it is the borders of ukraine that you mean, the internationally recognized borders of ukraine in 1991 were recognized by all parties, including the russian federation. we had a great deal with...