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private sector homes were cut off in kyiv. due to damage to the contact network in the dnipro district , the movement of trolleybuses and buses has been changed. new routes are available on social networks of the city administration. at the same time, it was possible to restore the water supply. our correspondent dmytro didora has been working at the site of the fall of the rocket debris since morning. so, dmitry, i congratulate you, what is happening at the scene now? i congratulate katerina, i also congratulate our viewers, now i have the following updated information, the residents of the damaged building are starting to be released as survivors entrances, where utility workers are not working now, and behind me you can see that they have already started sawing trees and also preparing the house for covering with film. now they

are gradually starting to be launched so that they could take away things that survived, we talked here on the spot with eyewitnesses of this tragedy, they say that nothing survived, even the handle of the kettle was torn off, and they managed to quickly save some things, and mr. oleksandr , who spoke with us, said that first of all he ran to save his son and two cats who live with him, so how declared... the head of the capital vitaliy klitschko, if the house has no significant damage, after the utility workers finish working near the house, an examination will begin, if it establishes that there is no damage, the house will be quickly restored, if there is such damage, they will think about capital reconstruction of the house, i want to note that here in the dnipro district, near the house, near this house, fragments of a rocket fell, which knocked down...

unfortunately, our anti-aircraft defense did not survive a single window, there are also victims, 53 people were injured, 20 people hospitalized, some are receiving medical attention right here on the spot, people are stressed, some have debris in their legs, some, when they ran out of the house, they stepped on the glass that broke and also got injured. i would like to note that cars were also burned near the house, internal components were knocked out of some cars, and one car was thrown by the blast wave onto the territory of the kindergarten, it was also damaged, it is located next to the house that was damaged, the windows were also broken and there was a lot of damage. as in in the house, and in the kindergarten, and in the neighboring houses, now people are standing in line to fix these... damages, now

a special tent from the patrol police is working, there people can film, and communal services will tape the windows with film, on the spot other organizations are also working, chatting , the ambulance is chatting, if someone needs to provide urgent medical help and also the red cross charity organization, they say that they have equipped... provided heating, both for people with limited mobility and for people who affected, they are given food and drinks to keep them warm, i also want to note that in one of the local schools, which is located near this house, a temporary point of invincibility has been deployed so that all residents of the affected house can go there for help, they will be given shelter, warm things, warm and also give food, that's the situation. the russians

fired a ballistic missile at three o'clock in the morning, and the air defense knocked down all the targets. thank you, dmitry, it was our journalist. dmytro didora, he spoke about the consequences of an enemy missile attack ballistics in kyiv. one hundred percent air defense work at 3 o'clock in the morning, the russians fired 10 ballistic missiles flying in the direction of kyiv. the enemy used s-400 anti-aircraft missiles and iskander missiles. the anti-aircraft defense forces shot down all of them. also, the enemy attacked with shaheds from the temporarily occupied crimea, released 10 drones. all of them. 10 were destroyed by the defenders of the sky, the air force reported. almost all uavs were shot down in odesa. volodymyr zelenskyi flew to norway with an unannounced visit. after visits to the usa and argentina, he is welcomed in oslo

the norwegian government informed about the arrival of the ukrainian president and disclosed the details of his stay. the ukrainian head of state will meet with norwegian prime minister jonas har sterr. and king harald i. the parties will discuss further support for kyiv. in addition, zelenskyi will take part in the second ukraine-northern europe summit. ukraine will become a member of nato after the victory over russia. us president joe biden emphasized this during a joint press conference with volodymyr zelenskyi in washington. he also added that the north atlantic alliance will be the future of kyiv. subject to compliance with all conditions of entry, as well as the consent of all members of the union to accept a new member. for now, we have to make sure that ukraine will win the war. as you know, we launched a joint assistance program with president zelenskyi and

the g7 leaders in vilnius, setting out long-term commitments to support ukraine's defense needs. we also held an industry conference. of defense last week in washington to accomplish this critical task, so let's move step by step. tomorrow in brussels, the meeting of the european council, the summit of the eu leaders, which must make a decision on the entire spectrum of support for ukraine from the european union, begins. it is about financial and military support for ukraine, as well as about the possible start of negotiations with ukraine on eu membership. last month , the european commission proposed... today , during the plenary session of the european parliament in strasbourg, the president of the european commission, ursula funderlajen, presented to the meps the positions with which she is going to the eu summit. and those in in turn, during the debate, they announced their demands to the leadership of the european union.

espresso correspondent tetyana vysotska followed the debate. congratulations tatiana, so what was discussed in the session hall? the two most important topics. uh, what the leaders of the european union will consider at this week's summit is the enlargement of the european union, as well as the review of the european budget for the next four years, european commission president ursula fondeen said in the session hall of the european parliament from this morning, and actually both of these big questions directly concern russia, this is ukraine, this is the beginning of negotiations with ukraine about membership, as well as providing ukraine with macro-finance... assistance in the amount of 50 billion euros from 2024 to 2027. joining our european family will be a victory for ukraine - said ursula fonderlein. ukraine also needs financial support from the eu. and we, as the european union, must

guarantee stable financing of ukraine for the next four years, she added. this will give hope to ukrainian soldiers, ursola fonterlajen believes, and will also give a good signal to western investors. the european union will continue to support ukraine as long as it needs it, ursula fonberal stressed once again. she emphasized that the heroic ukrainian people continue to effectively fight against the russian federation, and she also drew attention to the fact that the ukrainians recently pushed the russian fleet out of crimea and established a maritime export corridor, which is a great achievement that may even be underestimated in the international arena. also , fondelain, i would like to draw your attention to the fact that the ukrainian parliament has already approved four, three out of four draft laws that are the last requirement of the european commission for the start of negotiations on ukraine's membership in the eu. in turn, the european deputies who took part

in the debates practically all said that the european commission should also ensure the start of negotiations on ukraine's membership in the eu and provide ukraine with all possible financial and... military support, and also practically every deputy , who spoke in the session hall, declared the inadmissibility of the behavior of the hungarian leader viktor orbán, who actually keeps him at bay. all european union with its right of veto. orban should not win - emphasized the meps. and european commissioner marush shevcevych, who also spoke in the hall of the european parliament, promised the european deputies that the european commission will do everything in its power to ensure that ukraine receives everything promised, from financial to military support . thank you, tatyana, let me remind you, it was our journalist tatiana vysotska, she followed the debates in brussels. for now, this is all

the news for this hour. you will find more interesting and necessary information on our website espresso.tv, as well as in our social networks, subscribe, put your preferences, stay with the ukrainian view of the world and take care of yourself, we still have a victory to meet. i'm saying goodbye to you, see you tomorrow. glory to ukraine, this is the verdict program, my name is serhiy rudenko, i congratulate everyone and wish everyone good health. for the next two hours, we will talk about ukraine, the world, the war, and our victory. today in the program. they were the target of a hacker attack, a failure in the kyiv star network, what actually happened. with the largest telecommunications operator in the country. defense or offense? the usa and ukraine are developing

a new military strategy, is it really so and what does it entail? and hungary is still against it. is orban blocking the movement of ukraine to the eu through putin? and how to find a compromise on the eve of the historic summit? we will talk about this and other things for the next hour with our guests roman bezsmertny and others. in the second part of our program, which will begin after the bbc news broadcast, we will have people's deputies of ukraine, oksana savchuk, kyryna gerashchenko and oleksiy kucherenko. however, before how to start our big conversation, let's watch a video of how the armed forces of ukraine planted a flag over one of the terekons within the occupied horlivka, a city occupied since 2014. according to president zelenskyi. the assault group of the 24th separate royal mechanized brigade named after

king danylo retook terekon and captured enemy positions. let's watch the video. ground troops of ukraine. behind us is our ukrainian horlivka, ours is donetsk. donbas is ukraine. we will definitely win. glory to the zsu. glory to ukraine. i'm pretty with my hands. soon such over it will be a hoglika. friends, for those who are currently watching us live on youtube and facebook. please like our video and subscribe to our pages on these platforms. in addition, you can take part in our voting. today we ask you about this. do you trust the local government? yes, no, it's quite simple on youtube, two options, you vote if you're sitting in front of the tv and... you have a phone or smartphone in your hands, call 0800 211

381 if you trust your local authority, and if not, 0800 211 382, ​​all calls to these numbers are free. we are in touch with a politician, diplomat, extraordinary plenipotentiary ambassador of ukraine to the republic of belarus in 2010-11 , roman bezsmertny. mr. roman, i welcome you and thank you for joining our program today. good evening, today was quite a dramatic day with communication, in particular with kyivstar, in the morning there was a large-scale failure in the work of the mobile operator kyivstar, general director of the mobile operator oleksandr komarov stated that the terms of resuming the operator's services are unclear, and the sbu has opened proceedings that there is a suspicion of the involvement of the special services of the russian federation in relation to the cyber attack on kyivstar. let's listen to what mr. komarov said. the war with russia has many

dimensions, and one of them is in cyberspace. we are working to eliminate the consequences of this attack in order to restore communication as soon as possible. in order to find out the circumstances and consequences of illegal actions, interference in the activities of the network, we involved representatives of law enforcement agencies and special public services. kyivstar will definitely provide compensation to subscribers who did not have a connection or could not use it. operator services, we apologize to subscribers for the temporary inconvenience and thank you for your understanding and support. mr. roman, what are the dangers of this cyber attack? for ukrainians and for ukraine, except for the lack of communication. well, the fact is that this is one of the global, continental, regional, local, national problems, however you want to rank them, but the topic of communication, the topic of modern technology, information protection,

access to information and so on, this is the number one problem, and the peculiarity of it is that... it is not properly regulated today, neither in the legal sense, nor in the technological sense, and the reasons that when modern communication technologies, information technologies developed, then they were protected from the interference of law enforcement agencies, the state, then a problem arose with the protection and accessibility of information about everyone... now a critical situation arose, and from the point of view of paralysis, not only communication systems , technological systems, i'm not saying anymore about the use of information, not by chance, even at the last two un general assemblies, and this question was not

heard in every third speech at the september meetings: moreover, several times already in the effective annual reports, including the un secretary general's, and it was discussed at european forums of various levels, about the need to settle the issue, and not so much from the point of view of ensuring the technological process, which we are talking about today, but about the use of information about people, but in relation to... the impact on technological processes, the fact is that today, in fact, the electronic communication system provides access to almost all networks used by citizens, including the power grid, the heat grid, the transport network, the aviation network, and so on, and i am not saying

that the use of communication systems is elementary. robbery of citizens, debiting of funds from bank cards and accounts, and false issuing of loans to bogus persons, lending to individuals based on stolen personal information, and so on, that is, this is such a tangle of problems that it is necessary to sit on it, painstakingly sort it out, adopt the necessary regulatory laws. acts that would, on the one hand, ensure consumer access, on the other hand, protect information, and on the other hand, ensure the safety of both the citizen and the state, i am not talking about state bodies, because this is one of the key problems that remained, which is, and for the time being

, it is not necessary to talk about guaranteed one hundred percent protection, including in the service sector, which i just mentioned attacks on infrastructure, on vital infrastructure, because we use smartphones and pay with cards, we use smartphones to open cards at atms, that is, there are many, many functions that are tied to the card number, and these card numbers are the cards of this operator today. .. didn’t work, so people were simply, well, without food, they could n’t buy, they couldn’t pay for travel there, if they traveled by public transport or a taxi, and a lot of different problems arise precisely from identification through a mobile phone of the operator, that is, we can say that it was precisely one of the most vulnerable points and

it was hit, why do you think it was during the two years of the great war? why couldn't we create a system that would ensure this, or were we just defenseless in this situation, because we are being fought against in cyberspace as well as in real space? well, i don't know if the viewers, our listeners remember how 3 years ago hackers attacked the colonial pipeline of the united states of america, and only because of the paid amount of the hack. in in the amount of 6 million dollars managed to restore the controllability of this system, and this product pipeline actually provides the entire western. of the united states of america, well, oil products, let's say so. and the fact is that from a technological point of view, it is

necessary to do this 24 hours a day, while being under constant control and testing of the system. and it is obvious that for this it is necessary to rebuild, build appropriate technological cycles, work, train specialists, and guarantee. sotkovo, that today with, knowledge, experience, understanding of the situation, including by a hacker , this can be ensured one hundred percent, well, this is somewhat exaggerating the probability, hence from the very beginning it is necessary to understand that this is the object of a key attack, and its vulnerability will increase, the fact is that everyone understands perfectly, well, who familiar with ... communication systems, he understands very well that especially in conditions of political tension or warfare or hostilities, this becomes the object of a key attack,

because communication is really everything today, communication, that's all, she provides virtually every minute of a person's life, no matter what position, no matter where he is, so it is unlikely, let's say so, that you can finally ... solve this issue, because similar things happened to big monsters of both the banking system and the transport system , the aviation system and so on, but it is necessary to work on it and start here, and from my point of view it is necessary both from a small and a large scale, that is, we are talking about global settlement of these issues, because there are no international acts that would control and described this sphere, it was regulated. i'm not anymore i say continental ones, to be more precise, as there is a lack of not only regulatory, but also technological documents that would ensure

the activity of this area, so to talk about the fact that 100% can be ensured, well, this is somewhat exaggerating the possibility, and in the meantime it has become it is known that the sbu is investigating the fact of a cyber attack on kyiv star, the proceedings are being investigated immediately under eight articles of the criminal code, including state sabotage. treason and encroachment on the territorial integrity and inviolability of ukraine. hur already reported that he had attacked the russian tax office, it seems that in russia the tax office went down for a certain period, that is, the servers went down, so the war continues in all spheres, including, you see, in cyberspace. also, mr. roman, what i actually wanted to ask, because the bbc published an interview with the secretary of the council. defense and defense of ukraine oleksiy danilov, he said that ukraine's hopes for a counteroffensive did not come true, he said this,

i will quote him: people sometimes make mistakes, you can't be an excellent person all your life, it's not means that the victory will not be on our side, the fact that we have been defending our country for two years is already a great victory, he described the current situation at the front as very difficult and stated that the old military textbooks, in particular the nato textbooks, must be sent... back to the archives, during a certain period, there two or three months, we saw similar conclusions in the western press, and in kyiv they reacted to it painfully and as if something was being suppressed by western journalists and western experts, but now it turns out that in fact the hopes not on the counteroffensive didn't work out , mr. roman, does this show that the current ukrainian authorities still need to... learn to tell the truth to the ukrainian people and convey this truth on their platforms to those on the same telethon, because what he said

danilo, it does not correspond at all with what was said during the last six months about the situation at the front, about how it will all unfold. well, mr. sergey, the general connotation of this interview is quite calm. as soon as i met him, i realized that... this fragment that you just quoted will attract attention to itself because it smacks of vulgarity a bit, especially the thesis about textbooks that should be thrown away and so on, i, for one, enjoy reading from sunza onwards , ending there with svechenim, trandyphilov, well, and i am not talking about many contemporaries who are developing strategy, tactics of warfare. because, well , it must be done from the point of view of knowledge as such, and from the point of view, say, of the discussion that is being conducted today, it is necessary to clearly

understand... what is the textbook, forgive me for such vulgarity, it says that war is the art of lying, but this thesis must always be understood, because it is very important in the conditions of war, and what is sometimes made public, sometimes it is said, it should be treated calmly, also because we do not know the purpose of each message, each thesis that is periodically... voiced, regarding the extent to which society should be consecrated, then you are absolutely right here, because what is the problem? we still have a misunderstanding of what ukraine is being built as a democratic state, a democratic state, its tools, mechanisms of action, interaction of the state system, officials and society, they are completely different, and

here we are... sometimes this salty bear wakes up and such failures occur, these failures give rise to absolutely different interpretation, your truth is that the information provision of the process, which we called a counteroffensive, but from the point of view of conveying to the society what it is, why it is called that, it has not been possible until today, because in fact. yes actually if we talk about the result, then the situation from the beginning of the talks to the current state, it has not worsened, it is improving, yes, it is necessary to clearly understand and tell the society that one should not be a dreamer and think that by the command of a magic wand, this problem will be solved, this is a war , it is a complex mechanism, it is an interaction of political, military, military, components

that... need time, need corresponding resource provision, need appropriate policy, it is a crazy huge work, and when from the beginning it was announced about the fact that tomorrow we will reach moscow, forgive me for this slang, but it is clear that they gave hope, it is clear that the real course of events is not as fantastic or phantasmagoric as they talked about it from the beginning, and this... gave rise to a number of theses , i'm not talking about the fact that for some reason a lot of pessimism has intervened here, which was brought in as one of the information options for the service of the western press, western think tanks and so on, in principle i cannot understand the current and pessimistic such a decadent mood, from my point of view

vision, it is generated... by the absolute lack of reliable information that would reach the society, and do we take this question of interaction with our partners and allies, who clearly said that we will do the first, second, third, they are will be carried out, so there will always be problems, there will always be discussions, but these things will be carried out, from here, well , we can say that there is a late reaction or information that the secretary of the national security and defense council oleksiy can convey to society danilov, she was appropriate, in fact, back in the spring of this year, when it was necessary to explain to people that a counteroffensive is not only an attack, it also includes the manifestation of defensive battles, it is exhausting the enemy, because it was clear that we are not starting a war with a clean slate, well have not been finalized, today we have to say similar things, but similar things, but they... it is not

necessary to say them in such a way as to drive a wedge between the ukrainian and western leadership, between ukrainian and western military analysts, here we need to find answers to questions, because if only give birth to questions and throw it out into the air, then you will not ensure victory that way. in fact, from the point of view of the debate that was conducted, is being conducted and will be conducted, even from the point of view of the ideology of the counteroffensive, i do not want to. to draw in now to read a lecture about the fact that i had to study all this, and these gaps, which were not provided informationally for almost nine months, gave birth to this decadent, forgive me for bringing this artistic term into a political sound , because when you hear such things there or from the hall of the verkhovna rada or from government bodies, well...