expenses exceed twice our incomes, so will we see, well, against the background of rising prices for certain groups of goods and growth, for example, there pensions, minimum wages, etc., or while the war, let's say, well, can we forget about it in the near future? certainly, political statements that we need to raise pension salaries, they will be , at the same time, you know, i think that first of all our government should be guided by the fact that a really significant part of our expenses is covered by our partners, actually we see it elementary according to the budget, when we have revenues there are 1.8 uah, and expenses are 3.4 uah, that is , this difference must be covered at the expense of foreign aid and it is more correct to ask for external aid against the background of statements that we will increase pensions or salaries, as i do not think this is true way, because the partners will say, first you yourself, let’s say

, know about your financial activities, and then ask for help, and for ukraine it will be the best option if we direct all this help primarily to the social sphere, so i don’t i am waiting for statements, because it is you know, by the way, it's an interesting thing, returning to the question, remember, the budget for the first reading was set at a rate of 42, even with pennies, to accept 40 people, why, because there were really bigger fears. and already in the process between the first and second reading of the budget , they understood that there will be no lowering of the exchange rate, and as far as i am concerned, a similar situation also applies to possible social expenditures, that indeed, there will be a desire to make them, at the same time understanding that what is still going on war, a component of which is the need to attract foreign aid, some very strong social steps, it is better to refrain from them, but again at the same time monitor. of the situation, if

the situation allows us to explain to our partners what you know, but at this stage it is better to give positive signals to people, this will contribute to the normal existence of ukraine, and therefore its stability in relation to the challenges that, first of all , military actions on the part of the russian federation carry, it is possible will open a certain window of opportunity to raise both salaries and pensions, let it not be significant, but still not a percentage so that people felt that not only the military attacks of enemies are repelled, but also a certain economic improvement of life is taking place. ugh. well, if you believe the state statistics service, salaries were mentioned, if you believe the state statistics service and the figures it cites, then in the first quarter of 2023, this year, the average salary in ukraine was uah 15,436, already in the second quarter it was uah 17,176. we are seeing some growth, of course. do you have an explanation? because in fact

there are many options for what, different experts call it different, and then i will ask for the trend, whether it will be preserved, yes please, yes, yes, look, when the war began, there were certain very negative expectations, it seemed that, as they say, everything would disappear, but even this year, here we are ending it, and everyone is talking about what will be economically growth. that is, there were no situations when ukraine fell into a long period, when every year we had reduction, reduction, reduction, so there was a reduction of 29.7% of gdp in the 22nd year, this is logical, because the civil war began, ukraine lost part of its territory and opportunities are normal to live, but the current year has already demonstrated that ukraine, let's say, adapted as much as possible to new realities.

i personally know stories when new factories were opened in ukraine, which did not exist at all at the beginning of the full-scale war, however, in the second part of the 22nd year and the first part of the 23rd, they were built, because people understood that yes, that there is , let's say this, maybe it will sound negative, but the localization of this war, that it will not return to where it was in the first month, ukraine is still bigger returns rather than loses territories, we remember that too... in the kharkiv region and in the city of kherson, and even in terms of restoring, let's say, our sovereignty in the relatively insignificant territories that were lost in 2014, this is also a positive signal, and all these positive signals, they give reason to believe that after all the economy is developing, the economy is going into the plus, and if we see this plus of the economy, then why not increase these salaries, why i said before that, the justification of this is necessary growth if... that there will be positive news

come one after the other, this will be the justification that will allow to increase people's salaries and, in fact, to maintain support from the outside. partners, which will also be explained by the fact that the country must stand up not only in the military sense, for which we are certainly grateful to the armed forces of ukraine, but also in the economic sense, because no one wants a repeat of the history of the first world war, when germany lost this war, not because of military, let's say, defeats, but because of the fact that its economy did not survive, here is the need for the economy of ukraine to exist, it and will affect the fact that there will still be grounds for receiving for... not significant, but growing. mr. ivan, what arguments can be practical for our partners so that this assistance lasts, continues, and increases. yes, and here we are, returning to this thesis of mine about the first world war, because very often, even in the united states

of america, we hear calls to help ukraine with weapons, but not with money. at the same time , this happens due to a misunderstanding of, let's say, the whole picture of the situation. what, why me? i always remember. the first world war, because again, yes, the military component is definitely there, it plays a driving role, however, germany felt normal during the first world war militarily, but precisely because the economy did not allow it to fight that war, it eventually -resh lost, and it is necessary to explain to the partner that the economy is also a component of the current struggle, and it is necessary to support ukraine first of all so that ukraine does not lose this war, and this war does not move on, it will move on already on the territory of the european union, and even more, it can lead to what will be, let's say, a conditional pearl harbor 2.0, because let's remember, the united states of america, they were not going to enter the second world war, but after pearl harbor they were forced to do so, so that their base, their territory, was attacked, and although at that time it was not, by the way,

the united states of america, but still it was their military base, and so that there would not be a point when america's adversaries would want to attack it, and then.. americans are already soldiers will be forced to take direct part, for that it is necessary to support ukraine not only militarily, but also economically, so that ukraine can win this war on all fronts. ugh. thank you, mr. ivan. ivan us, an expert and, as it turned out, a historian of international economics, was in touch with us at this hour. thank you for your answers for your conversation. thank you. yes, friends, they talked about the holidays, which are already on the nose, and in fact. from the main theses, so that it is worth summarizing, currently there are no reasons for currency appreciation, so it is not worth running to buy dollars now, if there is no need for this , we also do not see the conditions for a strong increase in goods

, so stock up for the new year when you want, and not necessarily in a month, as katya and i did in childhood, well, let's talk about that later , which takes place under the oka. more precisely, what statements are coming from there, and this is the name that i will name now, of course, it always attracts attention, although recently certain trends, the statements of the american billionaire elon musk, they are probably surprising and alarming, so elon musk called ukraine again to negotiations with putin, not putin, to withdraw his troops from ukraine, and volodymyr zelenskyi to sit down at the negotiating table with putin, this time elon musk decided that he could give advice to the president of ukraine in an interview. to blogger lex friedman, the founder of tesla and spacex, called on the ukrainian president to switch to peace talks instead of offensive operations, because the following quote: it is enough to resist the russian troops, because the counteroffensive did not live up to expectations. this is what musk wrote, the end of the quote. separately, he

expressed his condolences even to the russians to the occupiers, the russian military, who apparently did not want to be at the front and ended up there just like that, especially you must tell this... who goes to kill ukrainian citizens on foreign land for the money that putin pays from the budget, yes, well, and no only, probably from official sources. well , let's talk today with oleksiy yezhak, an expert of the national institute of strategic studies, about such a trend of the american businessman's statements. mr. oleksiy, congratulations. i congratulate you. well, look, elon musk, yes, helped our forces a lot at the beginning of the war defense, providing them with communications. as if everything was. definitely the support of ukraine, it was wonderful, we really felt that such an extraordinary person, a person who will definitely leave his mark in history, supports us, it was cool, yes, let's just say, in simple words, then elon musk started to conduct some incomprehensible polls in their social networks, to think

about whether crimea belongs to russia or ukraine, to suggest not to attack because it leads to human casualties, recently even... here i called again volodymyr zelenskyi to sit down at the transition table and for some reason did not call there, for example, volodymyr putin to withdraw his troops, how does it correlate at all, yes, that is, on the one hand, it is real. necessary help for the defense forces, on the other hand, in general, statements that go completely against the first and main point of the peace plan for ukraine, which is the preservation of territorial integrity. elon musk speaks not only about ukraine, he generally makes many statements and many of his actions and visions are generally socially important. questions after how he engaged not only in visionary work in the field of technology, but also in social

processes, he engaged in social processes, because he bought, he bought twitter and he entered the field of information policy, he makes many statements, he has problems not only with ukraine , he also has problems with israel, he has problems with many there, well , such socially sensitive groups that lobby. engage in lobbying for certain social processes, therefore, what they say about ukraine, first of all, must be put into the general context of this person, and the person is such that, well, she is too big to be out of politics, he, he has achieved great success in business, as a visionary, he can be compared well with many other people of this level. well, by the way, he can be compared with donald trump, but when he asked

similar questions, maybe he thinks that he can settle the palestinian-israeli war or the relations between the karaites and something like that, this is an objective part, part of this process, but indeed, he says such things about ukraine that are too persistent, even for me it seems that there is a tendency that... that russia has seized on such, such a problematic figure from the point of view of politics, and is making him the second donald trump, i'm sorry, mr. oleksiy, i just wanted to clarify here, so recently elon musk , he even, let's say, uses the names of the commanders of certain directions, in general of the defense forces of ukraine, there he seems to understand the internal politics of ukraine, and well, one thing is that he just decided to express his views on geopolitics there, well... presidents probably, what he knows for sure, but his knowledge , let's say, in such an internal ukrainian

cuisine, sometimes leads to the idea that some theses may not be written by him, i just can't imagine that i would try in such detail, having such a lot of work yes, to understand such subtleties of internal politics , as you think, there can be certain theses, let's say, well, he can believe in them, but someone can bring them to him, let's say, so conditionally, well... that's all yes, it is unlikely that he has the time and interest to understand ukrainian politics, someone brings it, he can take it into development, not only because he believes in it, but simply he also has, as i said, a problem with the american state in general, with, he had problems with the pentagon when he provided starling for ukraine, he counted on the fact that the pentagon would pay him well, and then it turned out that there they did not agree on the price and for a long time,

for a long time, they were figuring out who should pay for these stations, which ukraine receives, in general, for this service, which, in principle , in the world market, it is not cheap, and i am not i rule out that he is brought to him by someone who enriches him, and he trolls in this way, including his own state, in which... he realized himself as a person, but always when this kind of problem between a person and the state appears, in general a problematic situation, russia is here like here, but i did not remember trump, as soon as trump had problems with loans, with financial issues, people appeared here and there, who solved his problems, helped, and he became to look very carefully at russia, in general, in general, what is happening there and

to support and say that this is the future and all that, i do not rule out that the same, well, trends arise here, when after great success problems begin, there something did not fly, there did not work, there stocks fell because of this that cars not so good, something is withdrawn, and it begins ... engagement from the other side, here i don’t think, i don’t believe that he is a russian agent, as they say, well, but it can happen if he is to go this way... this is the way he may not notice how russia engages him to such a degree that he and he himself will not understand how he is a stavinist, but here is what he says specifically about ukraine, i will remind you once again, he says a lot of strange things, well, not strange things, scandalous things, shocking things, as if he is specially

trying to expand the zone of his own influence, and i do not rule out... that he is preparing himself for a certain political role, but what he says about ukraine, what you said, is very surprising, how much he knows in detail such things that he, well, it is unlikely that he is interested, so i think that russia has already engaged him started, and he is playing, it seems to me, a dangerous game, because he thinks that he will beat anyone, after all, after all, the experience of the russian special services in engaging people and... forcing, forcing them to cooperate, he is high this experience, ugh, and not only, not only was not seen by the eyes, mr. oleksiy, after musk once again made his loud statement, experts began to suspect him of having political ambitions, it is clear that running for office in the united states he is currently unable to do so,

as he is suspected of forging documents and illegal residence in the usa, but are you watching? you, or according to your feelings, does he have such ambitions, maybe these are not states at all, can we imagine russia here? i think, i think, people of his level have such ambitions, and i do not exclude that they are really connected with the global restructuring of the world, but everyone is now talking about a new world order, i do not exclude that, what people of such a plan, they are preparing a completely new political system and consider such... possibilities, well, who controls artificial intelligence, who controls those those data centers that are in the arctic circle and beyond the arctic circle and consume 5% of the world's electricity there as the united states, i don't rule out that, what he,

he, well, i'm sure he has political ambitions, he wants to influence...world events not only as a businessman, not only to make money, he is no longer interested in just making money, he wants to change the world, but it seems to me that he still does not see where and how he can do it, maybe he must have been interested in the position of the president of the united states, because he is the most powerful politician in the world, but maybe he was interested in becoming, like the head of china, how about... this position, but he can't also become the head of china, everything else, i think, is of little importance to him , that's why, that's why he's looking for , is in the search, he has ambitions, but he does not know how to realize them, and that is why we see such outrageous statements that expand in general and position him as a politician, but it is not

clear what kind of politics, politics, it might be like this a completely new politician. ugh, thanks, you said something about what you think musk might have political future, and we also remember that the current legislation does not allow him to run for president there due to certain issues with citizenship, however , based on what we see now, we are sure that we will see and hear more about a mask not a business, not only a businessman, but a politician's mask? i think he's on such a slippery slope, and if tesla's sales continue to fall, and if his rockets aren't as efficient as they're hoped for, there won't be any more big breakthroughs, and he's not negotiate with the pentagon and military satellites,

which are the basis of this market, this is the largest such part in general. of the world market of world launches, if, if they do not switch to his missiles, well, his political influence will disappear, his problem is, it seems to me, a mask in the way politics, in the fact that his whole, his whole political, political image is being built for success as a businessman, if he, as a businessman, does not succeed, everything else, well, is not worth considering, no one will be interested in what... he thinks about ukraine, about israel, about black lives matters and all these issues that the world is paying attention to now, what musk said, the world will not pay attention to what he said. musk, unless he's successful as a businessman, and that's the problem of transitioning from business to politics, so to be a politician, politicians need to have more than money,

money and economic success, and musk has nothing but that right now of economic success, some are not as certain. and as a politician, this is the question, what as a politician, as a person who understands something about social issues processes, she, well, he does not represent anything of himself, heard, thank you. ugh, thank you mr. oleksiy, that helped to understand, oleksiy yezhak, an expert of the national institute of strategic studies, joined our conversation, and i will tell you, when we started talking about elon musk, i immediately thought about artificial intelligence, which the american businessman is currently working on , and then i remembered the news that we, let's try to comfort our viewers in such difficult times, so bill gates, one of the richest people, people at one time, also recently commented on what the development of artificial will eventually lead to... and he said that we will all definitely see it, because we will not work five days a week, but only three, because most of our tasks will be performed namely artificial intelligence. you were already amused by this news

, advised, tapped your feet, of course, but if you mention mask and also joke about him, then in fact, as soon as he issues something of his own maxim, it is not known from which drawer it was pushed and pulled out, and as soon as he puts it on the air, ukrainians they immediately write on their boards that it is three dots today we will put three dots on our airwaves too, oleksiy homan, kateryna derkach, thank you for being with us, see you, thank you, shogorons, who are bringing victory closer. this year , more than ever, we felt the power of help. we have proven that by supporting our

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historical memory is connected with questions. of national security , pushkin immediately follows the tanks, and it is not known who actually comes first. the last war. what a difference. part two. on december 17 at 22:15 in the only news marathon. they saw the death of loved ones, suffered from separation from relatives, fled from their own homes crushed by the russians, started anew life in a foreign country, and many children live in such realities today in ukraine, and they need more attention and psychologists.

support than adults, children's psyche is like plasticine, which needs an experienced and skillful master, such a specialist, today i have as a guest tetyana davydovska, psychotherapist, chief psychologist of the world club, co-founder of the charity fund dobriy brat, a teacher with more than 20 years of work experience . i congratulate you, good evening, today we will talk, for the most part, of course, about children, about help, the world club, how is this is engaged, but makes various programs, and i understand that the help you provide is not just conversations, as we are used to seeing, i don’t know, in movies, you come to a psychologist, sit down, talk, obviously, we have completely different realities, we live in conditions of war, accordingly, all work is also built on those rails, and the work of a psychologist and work with children, it actually requires completely different

approaches. and these approaches for today, they sound like trauma-sensitive approaches, and these are approaches that must be applied not only by psychologists, but also by teachers in their daily work. the world project is, in fact, a project that grew up, born during the first days of the full-scale invasion, when there were a lot of displaced people in lviv, and lviv turned into a big hub. and we saw that a lot of children, especially teenagers, during this period were having a difficult, difficult time, ah, without proper parental care, and we saw that there was a little necessity for the children who were in completely different conditions, in a completely different reality, they even had the opportunity...