it is almost impossible to assess how reliable it is, due to the fact that the intensity of hostilities is very high, and to separate those moments in which the loss of complexes occurs due to the failures of operators, well, it is very difficult, including because these cases, if they occur, are repeated. do not immediately become known to our company, our service center, but when the complexes arrive for repair, we always do an analysis for ourselves there, in any case , why some kind of accident happened, there are cases when it is caused by human factors, but i can say that in these... cases

, it mostly happens with young crews who have less than 100 hours of combat experience, after that it levels off and there are further losses for objective reasons related to military exploitation, that is, damage or some other factors, so to say... that the process of losses from the human factor, it is now a little, well, not a little, it is decreasing, it is possible, including thanks to the fact that we have greatly expanded our throughput capacity, and we made strict conditions for the selection of external ones pilots-operators, if we... see that

a person is unconscious, it is impossible for him, due to some special factors of this person in relation to them, then we count off the excursion, so all this allows to reduce the loss of complexes directly from the human factor, and then what is the ratio of number of percentage of operators that pass through your center of yours? and through state centers 50 by 50 or is there a different ratio? unfortunately, i cannot answer this question precisely now, the only thing i can say is that if we take the year 2023 and as of today, that is, on december 15, we have about more than 900 external pilots-operators have passed through our training center, how many posts have you... during this time issued by

state training centers, it is probably necessary, you should contact them, and do you have, linguistically speaking, do you have such favorite calculations or brigades that stand out among other divisions, in particular, there are better work results, greater efficiency, and then, if there are such brigades, what is the basis of such good indicators in comparison with other divisions, parts, of course, there are such ul favorite calculations of operators who even constantly use our some updates and we try to involve them in such a constant process of test operation, if we release any update, then first we give these updates to experienced crews who can give ... good feedback connection, and we

, on the basis of this, this information, make a decision, or it can be launched in a series, or something still needs to be improved, improved or changed, ah, what exactly is the factor of such success of certain crews, this is first of all motivation, when a person, as they say, prefers his work and has such a hunting excitement from his achievements, that is , when this crew succeeds, they are simply motivated by their achievements, and this motivates them to further success. and how does it take into account the combat experience there or the tactics of the enemy. countermeasures to our

unmanned systems, this is actually it, it probably affects the framing of the aircraft design, if this is necessary, and it certainly affects the tactics, how this process takes place in your... labor and operations and with training centers? i'm sorry, i didn't quite hear the first part of your question, how do you manage to react, in particular, to the tactics of countering the enemy, to form new tactical techniques there, which can then be promptly conveyed to the calculations that are already used by your complexes, well, and gradually still conveyed and to the training centers, so that they also take into account any changes in the battlefield, as it happens in our country? we have an organized 24/7 support service for our external pilot operators and we have certain staff in our training center who monitor some trends, changes

, and can say whether it was an isolated case, or what, if it becomes some kind of system, we immediately begin to react to it, that is, we er... isolate a certain problem and immediately work with it, we connect our instructors to this work in cooperation with our rnd department, and they find solutions, then these solutions are immediately implemented in the form of software changes, or if something needs to be changed in the hardware, in the hardware component complex, that is, it is a constant work. which continues and it is probably such a very large part of the company's time resource, but can you give some examples, if possible, you can immediately

recall them, what has changed in the complex in view of some changes on on the battlefield or where the enemy is acting, it is constantly changing the system of countering the means of rept. that is, algorithms are added or improved in the avionics of our complex, we are constantly working on communication channels, we are constantly changing algorithms, er, frequency adjustments of the complex, changes are made to the operation of the inertial navigation system in cases where it is completely... where is the suppression of signaling from the satellite navigation system, i.e. gps2nas, we are implementing measures to improve the stability of the navigation system to rep means, we are introducing special devices that can filter

signals obstacles, well, that is, it is a constant work that is being conducted, and if you even take the software of the complex at the beginning... of a large-scale war, and now these are completely different things. and finally, mr. denys, i wanted to i would like to ask whether the situation with orders for the company for the next year has already become clear to you, whether there are firm contracts, whether you can, conditionally speaking, already order components in order to make samples for new contracts, or for now is this process still ongoing in negotiations there with the ministry of defense there or by other customers? no , i can say here that the order process is already known, we are contracted for the next, more than a year, and we can make some kind of procurement plan, we even

did it in advance even before we had there were some agreements on future contracts, we... made a decision at the board of founders of the company to direct most of our free financial resources in order to make warehouse stocks of spare parts, and therefore, when we signed the contract, we already had some of our balances of the necessary component parts of the warehouse , not even in ukraine in order to ensure this. safety for these components, so we basically made plans for the next two years of the company's work based on this, well, at the moment we have there are no problems, well then the most extreme question

is whether we can talk about the fact that in the next year the number of complexes that your company will supply to the security and defense forces there will increase, well, conditionally speaking by 30%. it will grow more. thank you, mr. denys, for these professional comments, for your time, and let me remind you that it was denys cherrednychenko, co-owner of a manufacturing innovation company. deviro, which manufactures the leleka complex in various modifications for the armed forces of ukraine. and then we will talk about other aspects the component that concerns the training of operators for our drones, but about that after the advertising and informational break. tingling and crawling sensations arise spontaneously and disturb you. the dolgit antineuralgia complex helps in normalization. and functioning of the nervous system. dolgit antineuralgia helps to return to usual

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about your center, how it was founded, how many operators have you trained, that is, the general picture of your field of activity, well, in general, the school has existed for six years, it started a long time ago, it is in the united states, i am a professional pilot, i have more than 8 thousand hours of flying drones. and i have an american education, the school here in ukraine has been working since june of last year, because i was demobilized to the reserve on february 24. i went to fight as a volunteer, in june i already founded or continued this school here in ukraine, the school for today already taught somewhere more than 400 students, and almost all of them use their skills and knowledge somewhere at the front. mr. andriy, what

directions, relatively speaking, are these copters, is this a wing or? what areas does your school cover? direction one is multi-rotor systems , it's copters, because it's classic technology, it's available to almost anyone, it's available for purchase by volunteers or individuals, and this whole course is built in such a way that it's about knowing everyone from the very beginning zero to piloting classic, piloting extreme ee... in an emergency situation and everything else, there are also several classes on the wing and other modifications of unmanned aerial vehicles, the wing or first person view model, these are fpv drones, so-called, there is also training on the independent construction of drones, if there are those who wish, and mandatory , mandatory

use in difficult radio-physical conditions, when... the pilot's head in combat conditions. andriy, you probably heard part of our conversation with the previous guest, it was denys cherednichenko from the devira company, they have their own training center in the company itself, and they talk about the fact that they have a certain certificate for their graduates, which allows them to then, as i understood, receive a military accounting specialty, which makes it much easier for this person to find a place in the staff structure, there are units in armed forces, how do you solve this... the fact of the matter is that the equipment that you manufacture and subsequently send to the armed forces is a company, it is military equipment, so they have the right and they provide a certificate for e- e on the use and piloting of this particular one equipment, multirotors, which i teach, it's

classic, it's a household thing, so to speak, and certification or licensing. in ukraine, according to today , this equipment does not exist, therefore, but thanks to most of its characteristics, this equipment, these quadcopters, they are very actively used in aerial reconnaissance. then, how is the training structured in your school, how long does it usually take to acquire these skills to work on a copter and how is this funded. process, because there was the story is that for a certain time the ministry of digital transformation provided certain schools with finances for the training of operators, then this initiative was stopped, how do you build this temporal and financial basis for the activity of your school, in terms of time it takes about 15 days, father-in-law 4-5 days i i teach

the theory. and then, then practical classes , practical classes outside the city, about 10-12 days , four hours each day, from the financing plan, and this is a private school, it is financed partly from those civilians who come to study, it is not free , with no one takes military money, if someone has the opportunity to buy some for some money there. battery or batteries and recording parts are there propellers or something else it's me it's me it's me i accept funding from the government or from any other side no a little more funding my school my friends my partners from the united states if i have such a need , in general, the funding is

from private individuals who come to study privately and then plan to use their rank with... knowledge and skills, not only in the military case, but even in civilian clothes. mr. andriy, what is the current dynamics with the recruitment of cadets there compared to last year, and at the beginning of your school's work and now the quantitative indicators are increasing, decreasing, what is happening? it is decreasing, much decreasing, today, uh, there is such a trend, a lot. civilians, but they are from other cities, i cannot leave the city of kyiv, because i will not be able to organize training in other cities, firstly, secondly, there are a lot of military personnel, if in that... year the military had the opportunity to pass independently and study, now there are a lot of military personnel who are at their positions, or somewhere on vacation, or somewhere in

the hospital, and they do not have the physical opportunity to come to me. for you, that is , the trend has shifted somewhere to other cities, and not people, unfortunately, do not have the opportunity to come and study in the city of kyiv. somehow, but what does your experience say, there is a lot now. those copters that are created with their own hands to solve there tasks from the point of view of fpv drones, and the question arises that there are many different types of constructions, which in my opinion make training difficult, or am i wrong , or are there certain, let's say, such universal directions, which in any case allow you to, well, master the basic skills, and then become, well, an effective fpdrone operator? i 'll tell you this, controlling an fpv drone is really hard. extremely difficult, because this, this modification of the multi-rotor system, it was not prepared for control as such at all, these racing drones are toys, high-speed, fast, that is why it was such

a high-tech toy, to prepare a fighter, a fighter, it is necessary to - very first a lot of time, it's about 200 hours in the simulator, then, then break about three or five drones so that people... can do something, this is firstly, secondly, regarding modification, in general, i i see only one such trend, not very good , a lot of people try to assemble on their own, but they do not understand such engineering and electronic things as engine power, size and characteristics of the same propellers, i had such a funny situation when i called one friend said, oh, i bought a whole box there, a whole box of motors, come look please i came these motors the motors are really cheap but they don't

fit anywhere at all because they are 6v instead of 22 and i get a lot of calls from scratch guys complaining that they were sent these drones but they can't even stand themselves for three minutes, well, this is such a tendency according to relative fpve, well, that is, we must talk about a certain one. unification and propification, some basic configuration, basic standards, but when i talked with volunteers who intended to order from me there, because i can also collect them, in the final price was repulsive, very repulsive, even a difference of uah 2-300, but my efforts to explain it that a 2.5-watt video transmitter will work better in the conditions of the children, they are somehow not sure. they had, they intended to buy somewhere much better in terms of price , but not in terms of characteristics, there is another one, well , this suggests that there is a certain

misunderstanding of technical importance, it makes no sense to install a video transmitter for 100 uah and a half, it is much better to add that 1.5-200 and put an already reliable video transmitter at 2.5 watts, which will give a picture in the conditions. from the side of the ministry of defense, it is probably necessary that these minimum permissible requirements be put forward, of course, the ministry of defense or another structure must draw up a certain configuration or technical conditions independently or with specialists, the video transmitter is such, the motors are such, the carrying capacity there is at least 3 kg, for example, somehow, when you said that it takes 200 hours to train an fp drone operator, 200 hours is... how long are fry simulators, a person, i tell you, in this case will not last more than an hour or two behind the monitor, it is very difficult,

effectively, the brain will perceive information or process it for the first half hour, then it will be very bad, and then, relatively speaking, this means that the operators of the semi-drone are really on the battlefield there, well, in particular there in probably, well, in a day, in a day they can perform there maximum. 5-10 operations, will this and that be too difficult for this, but the first three, i think so, the first three, maybe five, it depends on the person, on his vestibular apparatus, he will perform three to five, then there will be a very large number of errors, not from him it depends, somehow, yes, and when the question is raised about the need to increase the number of fpv operators. then this means that it should be a nationwide task, because we see that studying for a long time affects the characteristics of a person, and then, if we have a lot of students, we

will still lag behind, as i see. in operator training, we are already lagging behind, we will be lagging behind, i will tell you this, i have this certain insider information, i will not pass it off as one hundred percent, but what i know, what i hear from the ground, well it 10-15% maximum successful hits are accurate, maybe 20 of this total volume, that is, to train fpv pilots for this particular configuration. you need to pay in advance and it will take a month or two effectively , i don’t see any other, other way, well, if, on the example of your school, the task was set to expand the number of f5-drone operators with certain support, how many then what actions would you take, to ensure the training of operators in this area? well, first of all, you need at least 10 computers of a certain configuration and power, that's 10 remotes,

which will be financing will also be included in terms of purchasing components and self-assembly of fpv for further training, because they will break down, and it is simply that this financing is constantly needed. and then, relatively speaking, what was the capacity of your school at that time, if there were these 10 computers, how many could there be, relatively speaking, to produce drone operators in a certain time, let's say, in a month, maybe 25-30 operators, maybe. 50, but it will be very difficult, and now how much are you releasing against the background of the recession, and interest to come to kyiv, 25-30, relatively 150 per month, relatively 1500-150 in that year, for example, well, somehow such a ratio, mr. andriy, well, thank you very much for the inclusion for these explanations, we see that there are certain nuances and problems with training of operators, we see that

after all... a process that needs serious attention from the state, and a serious attitude from the organizers of this process. also, i want to say very important things about fvi operators, it is very unfortunate, but it is a fact and it is not impossible to somehow turn away from it or leave, out of 100 potential cadets, even if they are studied, will work effectively, will be able to work. 10, well, 20 , well, a maximum of 30%, because it depends a lot on the vestibular apparatus of a person, these are the characteristics of each person, they are very personal and individual, that is, this is another nuance that is very important, it must be taken into account, if a person cannot, then no, you don't need her, you don't need her to do this, because the number of effective sorties and effective hits will be very small, and the loss of equipment is also money, sir

andrew. thank you very much for these explanations, for the inclusion, and i would like to remind our viewers that the founder and head of the center of uav quadcopter pilots blue sky andria with the call sign synoptic was on the klanspresso broadcast. these are the realities associated with the training of operators for wing-type drones, for quadcopters, for fpv drones. we see that, in principle, there is potential for the developers themselves, but the increase in the number of operators requires some reformatting. training, because we see that the state centers cope with it, but with less than this are made by private companies, and private companies, as we see, now have certain financial limitations in order to raise this direction, so i think that conclusions should be drawn so that in addition to the number of drones that are increasing, there is an appropriate the number and trained operators who can effectively use these drones

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