will work effectively, 10, well, 20, well, a maximum of 30% will be able to work, because it depends a lot on the vestibular apparatus of a person, these are the characteristics of each person, they are very personal and individual, that is, this is another nuance that is very important, it must be taken into account, if a person cannot, then he is not needed, he does not need to do this, because the number of effective sorties and effective hits will be very small and the loss will be very small. equipment is, it's also money. mr. andriy, thank you very much for these explanations, for inclusion, and i will remind you of ours to the viewers that the founder and head of the blakytne nebo uav quadcopter pilot center andriy with the callsign synoptyk was on the klanspresso broadcast. these are the realities associated with the training of operators for wing-type drones, for quadcopters, for fpv drones, we see that, in principle, there is potential for the developers themselves, but an increase in the number. operators needs a certain

reformatting of training, because we see that state centers cope with it, but with a smaller number than private companies do, and private companies, as we see, now there are certain financial limitations in order to raise this direction, so i think that conclusions should be made so that in addition to the number of drones that are increasing, there is an appropriate number of trained operators who can... effectively use these drones are in battle against our enemy. these were the conclusions from this program. stay tuned to espresso channel. welcome to the broadcast of the program.

i am oleksiy kovalenko of the ukrainian voice of america chas time service. the leaders of the european union named a historic achievement of the decision to open the way to negotiations with ukraine and moldova on joining the eu. and they expressed the hope that in a few weeks they will also approve a multi-year program of financial support for ukraine in the conditions of the russian war. the president of the european commission, ursula funderlein , also stated that the european commission will work on options for a financial program for ukraine, with the help of 26 countries. eu members in case the hungarian veto is preserved. how was the voting and what to expect next? let's talk about it with ours london correspondent bohdan tsyupin. bohdan, congratulations. hungarian prime minister viktor orbán did not support either the start of negotiations on ukraine's accession to the eu or funding for ukraine. in the first case , it was still possible to vote, but not in the case of financing. how did it happen? well, actually, in brussels, as the old ukrainian says. silivya

found a scythe on a stone, that is, hungarian prime minister viktor orbán, who is now actually the closest friend, the only european leader who is friends with russian president putin, makes a deal with him agreements, travels to moscow, and his representatives also visit russia, do business together, he actually... during several weeks before this summit, he cut off his retreat routes, burned bridges, so to speak, wrote letters to brussels, demanding to remove the issue of ukraine from agenda, distributed his videos through internet networks with statements that he is against ukrainian issues, that ukraine is not ready for membership in the european union, that ukraine cannot.

to help, especially militarily, because it perpetuates the war, but the stone has become what 26 other countries of the european union did not give in to orbán, they insisted on their way, and a situation arose in which german chancellor olaf scholz offered a loophole, in fact, such a legal exit, he said that the decision can be considered unanimous if everyone... present in the room votes for, and so orbán was offered to leave, and he did, then he insisted that he still stood by his opinion. let's say clearly that ukraine is not ready to be part of the eu. this decision is premature, the situation is not yet ripe for it. i said let's get back to this question when ukraine will be

ready, but i failed to convince them, i spent 8 hours again trying to explain to them that helping is wrong, worse than not helping at all. a bad way to help, but it was not possible to convince them, and they had a serious argument, which i had to admit , that is, actually two serious arguments, to be precise: first, there were 26 of them, and i was one, and with this decision they want to encourage ukraine continue the war. bohdan, is it still possible to expect that it will be possible to reach an agreement and still unanimously vote for the financial aid to ukraine, as the representatives of the european commission stated today, or to find. a compromise solution, as in the case of negotiations on ukraine's accession to the eu. well , you just heard what mr. orban said, but in contrast to him, other european leaders emphasize that ukraine should be helped,

especially now, when the situation at the front is so difficult, and they are actually looking for different ways out. do not forget that it is about this particular one. e.e. a special long-term program of the european union, assistance to ukraine is also provided in other ways, given on the interstate level, at the level of international organizations. when it comes to the allocation of funds from the budget of the european union, european leaders always want to maintain uniformity. it is very important that the european union works so that... there are no conflicts in it and that there is no need to break someone, so to speak, but already now the european commission, the executive body, is preparing other possible options, let's say a decision with the participation of 26 countries, excluding from this

hungary. to the hungarian prime minister from the french president emmanuel macron received a soft but... serious warning. i believe that the next months will be decisive both for hungary and for us. hungary was respected during this council. she has a voice in the person of her prime minister. it is normal that he protects her interests. his voice was heard, he called for a strategic discussion, and we did it, his voice was respected. this respect entails responsibility, so i... bohdan, what are the next steps with the negotiations on ukraine's accession to the eu, what can be

expected next and how long these negotiations can take last? well, actually, there is a decision to support. the recommendation of the european commission to open negotiations on the accession of ukraine to the european union, this means that these negotiations should eventually begin, it is assumed that it will probably be quite soon next year, although some suggest that it could be, for example, spring, how long will it take, the actual duration depends on many... circumstances, and we see that in the cases of the accession of other countries of the european union, from the submission of the application for accession to the completion of this process, in some cases 5 years, in some cases

more than 10 years, in the fastest cases, in the cases of finland and sweden in particular, it was very fast, relatively fast, it was two... three years, that is, in fact, when the hungarian prime minister the minister says that ukraine is not ready for membership in the european union, it really is not ready, but this negotiation process should be this preparatory work, allowing ukraine to prepare for membership in the european union, and the european union itself to prepare for membership. ukraine, as well as moldova and other countries. there is a lot of work ahead, how quickly it will be done depends on many circumstances. thank you very much, bohdan, our london correspondent bohdan tsyupan was in direct contact with us. the transfer

of part of the frozen russian assets to ukraine is one of the issues of the eu leaders' summit. the money of the russian central bank, which was stored in the west and was frozen after the full-scale earthquake. should help in the reconstruction of ukraine, the countries of the group decided so themselves, but the mechanism of this transmission, it has not yet been developed. the creation of a mechanism for long-term support of ukraine is discussed when european and washington politicians still cannot reach an agreement on financial and military aid for the next year. natalka churikova will tell you the details. up to 3 billion euros per year, or up to 15 billion by 2027. this money will come from interest and other earnings on russian central bank assets held in european financial institutions. the assets themselves remain insufficient. touching, such the plan was agreed by the european commission on the eve of the eu summit, it still needs to be adopted

by 27 countries of the european union, but even if the decision is adopted, it will open only a thin stream to fill the ocean of needs for the recovery of the ukrainian economy, say ukrainian high-ranking officials. according to the assessment of the world bank, the reconstruction and restoration of ukraine is necessary. usa in just the first full year of the war. the cost of reconstruction is already predicted to be 2.6 times more than the entire gdp of ukraine. estimates of the destruction in the second year of the war can be safely estimated to double - says the ukrainian prosecutor general. although ukraine is grateful for every dollar of help from its partners, he says, they should not pay for russian aggression. the west must force russia to compensate for its losses. such an opportunity exists and it should be used as soon as possible - western

experts emphasize. in the immediate aftermath of the russian foreign invasion last february, the g7 governments froze russian sovereign assets. these funds amounted to about 300 billion dollars. it was a bold move, well executed. that's good, but not good enough. ukraine needs these assets now. freezing of sovereign assets has happened before, experts say, but there have been no precedents of transferring assets from one country to another. legal expert iryna palyaashvili explained in a commentary for voice of america that these assets are protected by sovereign immunity. but there is a doctrine in international law called countermeasures, doctrinal countermeasures, which is very...applicable in this case, where the perpetrators have to cover damages, pay compensation, and that money

can be used under this doctrine. and very recently , a legal memorandum of the world's leading public lawyers of internationalists was released, where they explain what the doctrine of countermeasures can be. one of the authors of this memorandum is paul reichler, a washington lawyer who has specialized in international public law for more than 40 years and represents sovereign states in disputes. with other states in international courts and tribunals. rykler says that the seizure and transfer of frozen russian assets in ukraine complies with international law. the transfer of the already frozen russian state assets was a proportionate response to russia's aggression and its non-fulfillment of its obligations to compensate for the damages caused by it to ukraine. opponents of this step point out. at least two potential problems: possible lawsuits from russia and

the undermining of trust in western financial institutions. rykler says that these fears are in vain, because by its actions russia itself has placed itself outside the law. russia has not submitted to the jurisdiction of any international court that would have competence to consider the lawsuit filed by the russian federation regarding the seizure and transfer of its assets. therefore, there is no such thing. international court, to which she could file a lawsuit. another challenge is to change the countries' own legislation to give additional powers to the executive power. the bill, which should solve this very problem, has already been developed and supported by the foreign affairs committee of the house of representatives. it has bipartisan support and awaits a vote in the house and senate. and although the us owns only a small part. of these assets, american experts are convinced that in this way america will set an example to european

countries, pushing them to take decisive steps. and it is necessary to transfer the assets now, and not wait for the end of the war, - says the lawyer of the public organization together. all these frozen funds legally belong to ukraine, as compensation for reconstruction and reparations, i want. to outline that reconstruction is an ongoing process, it is not just something that happens after the end of a war, critical infrastructure that is targeted russia, such as power plants, hospitals, railways, communal

legislation and the us border. the aid package to ukraine now depends on the latter. thus, schumer said that he expects a vote on the aid package for ukraine and other partners as early as next week. the bill must be approved by both chambers, both the senate and the house of representatives. but the latter already went on vacation yesterday. what does this news mean for the aid package for ukraine and how the visit of volodymyr zelenskyi affected the legislators. about this and other things we will talk with our congress correspondent kateryna lisynova. congratulations, katya. congratulations oleksya. katya, so what is the work schedule of the legislators in the congress as of now and whether it will be possible to overcome all the disagreements on the border and still vote for aid to ukraine next week. chuck schumer said yesterday that border negotiations will continue this weekend, with senators scheduled to return to work on monday. but how long such an extension of the work of the senate will last is currently

unclear, because even if the interlocutor from democrats, republicans and the white house... will come to some kind of agreement, then it will have to be written into a bill and voted on in the senate, and then it will have to be approved in the house of representatives. at the same time, chuck schumer said that he will put aid to ukraine to a vote next week, no matter what, quote. i suggest listening to his statement. i spoke with republican leader mcconnell this morning about the plan for next week to make sure the senate continues. to work, so we'll let all the senators know when we wrap up today, the senate will come back on monday, that will give the negotiators, from the white house, from the democrats, from the senate republicans, time over the weekend to reach a framework agreement. lawmakers should be here next week. we have to finish it. we hope to reach an agreement, but in any

case, senators should know that we will be voting on the relief package next week. i will let the senators know when... there is more information about the schedule, but chuck schumer, although he is the senate majority leader, he does not have control over the republicans, so it is unclear whether the republicans will agree to work overtime. so yesterday, when chakshomer said that senators should return to work on monday, one of the leading republicans, lynsey graham, said that he would actually go back to his state. he actually stated the following. democrats have yet to come up with a serious proposal to improve border security. and ukraine will be able to continue to defend itself until next year. i'm glad to come home to south carolina and say i didn't support the need other countries until we have guaranteed the security of our own border. such a statement was made by one of the leading republicans, linzi graham. i will remind you that chuck schumer had talks

about continuing to work overtime and not going on vacation for the holidays, also with the republican leader. in the house of representatives by speaker mike johnson, but the latter refused to work overtime and sent his lawmakers on vacation for a recess yesterday. i would like to note that , nevertheless, the legislators of the house of representatives, with with whom i talked, claim that if the senate comes to some kind of agreement on the draft law on assistance to ukraine and the border, then they are ready to return from vacation for one or two days in order to finally vote. aid to ukraine. katya, this week began with the unannounced visit of the president of ukraine, volodymyr zelenskyi. did he somehow manage to influence the legislators regarding the approval of the aid package for ukraine? i know you've talked to congressmen, please tell me what they say. in general, here are the opinions of republican-democrats

broke up some argue that his visit may influence critics of aid to ukraine , others argue that... after all, the presence of the president is important in one way or another, and if not in the immediate perspective, then in the short term will have a result, others, mostly republicans, say that his visit had zero impact and that they say republicans have no plans to budge on their position on the need to agree on the border before considering any aid to partners. i suggest you listen, actually, to what the representatives of the chamber told me representatives, both from the democratic and the republican. it seems that in the short term his visit didn't have much impact, unfortunately that's probably true, but the key is... in the long term, over the next month, plus or minus. will we be able to get this critically important aid to ukraine? that's the question. i believe that zelenskyi's visit had a positive impact in this regard and was well worth

his time. i personally did not attend any meeting with him, he met with the senate and the speaker. i don't think any happened changes in the position of the house of representatives. our current focus is on securing america's borders. we wish zelensky great success, but we are not going to move legislation on this topic. because the biden administration, unfortunately, does not take us border protection seriously. i know that this has influenced the democrats in congress who are united in supporting president zelensky and in voting for more aid so that we can give him and the ukrainian military what they need, but i don't see this visit somehow changed the opinion of some of my republican colleagues. summarizing, it is worth saying that... currently , assistance to ukraine depends on negotiations on border issues, which are conducted directly by representatives of the senate, from the democratic and republican parties, as well as with the white

house. in general, how long these negotiations will last and whether they will lead to any positive result is currently unknown, but the fact that the senators will ultimately continue their work and plan to consider this issue, and eventually the leader. democrats in the senate said he even expects to bring aid to ukraine to a vote as early as next week. however, whether they will be able to agree on everything and reach a consensus by christmas, by the end of this year, remains a big question. and many lawmakers i've spoken to remain skeptical that it will ultimately succeed, even with such efforts on the part of the senate and directly on the part of senate democratic leader chuck schumer. therefore, the following. week will be very important on this issue, and after all, the voice of america will cover it live and tell all the latest events. alexei thanks katya, we will continue to monitor this topic.

our congress correspondent kateryna lisynova was in direct contact with us. against the backdrop of political debates in the congress regarding the future aid to ukraine , the french philosopher and publicist bernard lilavy came to washington. he brought the new documentary heroy slava, which he shot during the course, to be shown. summer on the ukrainian front. the goal, he says, is to explain to congressmen why ukraine should continue to be supported. andriy borys talked with the french philosopher about what he saw in ukraine. bernard, you are now in washington, tell us about your plans here. i brought a new film to the heroes of glory. to show the residents of washington, but first of all to the congressmen. this is very important in these dark times that are happening in ukraine, at a time when congress has blocked the aid package. so i'm meeting with a lot of

people, it's too early to say who exactly, to ask and explain what america will do a huge mistake if it freezes or even slows down the supply of weapons to ukraine. a huge mistake not only from the point of view of protecting values, but also from the point of view of national security. national. america's security is at stake in ukraine, the front line is the border. everyone on the capitalist hill is now talking about the border, border, border , the real border of america, the west, western values ​​is taking place in ukraine, in avdiivka, klishchiivka, in bakhmut, in all these cities that i know, now it is very good, maybe too good , i spent a lot of time there in terrible conditions for understanding, you also meet with politicians. i meet a lot of people, from politicians to journalists and decision makers, i try to meet as many people as possible. why do

you think the film will be able to convince people that it is worth continuing to help ukraine? in the film , they will see ukrainian soldiers who say not only glory to ukraine, but also glory. offensive, but have already been to ukraine many times after the revolution of the 14th year. how do you think ukraine has changed? in one of my films. is

slava vakarchuk's song, we will never be the same again, is what he sings at the end of my documentary. ukrainians will never be the same as they were after the massacre, terrorist attacks, acts of genocide, hard patience and suffering. they will never be the same again after discovering the inner strength, this heroism that is within themselves. if you are not tested by war, you never know if you are a real hero or not, if you will be a slave or willing to risk with... more and more we hear the words tired, tired of war, what do you say to those who are tired? it's very

easy to explain. i have covered many wars since i was a young journalist, this war is special, it threatens the whole world, it is a world war. i covered the war in angola, i covered the war in somalia, i covered the war in bangladesh, but for the first time now i feel that the fate of the world is at stake because putin wants more than ukraine. putin clearly says: after ukraine there will be finland, after finland there will be lithuania or estonia or poland or whatever.

there are bombings everywhere, it's a world war using new tools in new conditions. putin's use of weapons in ukraine, hackers destabilizing europe, the nuclear threat, blackmail with grain and hunger, all this has a global impact. when you create famine in africa by blocking the odesa port, it is a global famine. when you encourage and encourage the populists or the extreme right in france or italy, what is this like non-interference? if, after all, the west stops aid to ukraine, fails to convince and continues to support, what do you think this threatens? if we can't help to win a complete victory for ukraine. the next step will be china's invasion of taiwan.

turkey. will follow the path of the ottoman empire, expanding its sphere of influence closer to europe. iran will be bolder in building nuclear weapons. this will be an incentive for hamas to repeat the attack on october 7. in short, if putin is not restrained, if he does not capitulate, we will have the flowering of all the worst forces. i hope this will not happen. i know, that's why i say from the first days, from february 2014 . 10 years ago i said on the maidan in front of people. it was sunday, there were hundreds of thousands people on the square, i then said: "you are that shaft, that shield of the free world and free values." download the voice

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