0800 210 106. dear friends, we are returning to veter and continuing our marathon. we hope that after yevhen iliev spoke to us in veter, you did not turn off our channel, not dealing with the truth from the point, but i don't know, i don't know, i didn't hear anything, no, wait, i wanted to continue, on the contrary. keep watching espresso, keep donating, donating on er now for powerful panels that will help our military in the field to recharge their military equipment that will destroy moskal and so in this way you show that the espresso audience is not at all the same as some ukrainians who are trying to dismiss the fact that there is a war going on in our country. espresso audience. these are conscious people who

understand what is happening in the country and understand that our military needs our help, and we are already with you, i want to say, as of today, well, while we were literally talking with mr. yevhen, we collected another 3 thousand with a tail, 300 with a tail added, i don't know if there is anything depressing about the fact that there is some sobering assessment of the situation that the russians still have the ability to fight, well at least... a year, two, three, the fact that they don't stop trying and believing at least that they will manage to capture something else and have some kind of victory in this war, these are obvious things, and the fact that we are starting to talk about it little by little and try to understand it, just like the problem with mobilization, the fact that we are trying to raise these difficult issues, it seems to me that there is, on the contrary, hope and some - i know, some kind of reassurance is certain,

because the biggest, scariest thing is when you you see that what is officially told on tv, relatively speaking, and what is in reality, that these are completely different things, when reality and the picture on tv are very different, it means that we are going in the very wrong direction and sooner or later it simply leads to some kind of disaster. now we simply see a lot of difficult, serious work, but there is nothing unattainable, and the prize is also there. understand in this war, this is finally a complete separation from the influence of russia and the return of ukraine to european civilization to europe with a further future, security and economic growth, this is a huge fee, but we understand what it is paid for, we will now speak with radion kudrysh, deputy commander of the third separate assault brigade of the armed forces of ukraine, major, mr. major, good morning. i wish you and the audience health, where

are you now, what news do you have? right now, the third separate brigade is in preparation and restoration, let’s say, after a difficult period of time that we spent in the bakhmut direction, which is more than a year performed the task, now we are working to recover and resupply. and carry out measures to supplement both the personnel and its personnel with the latest technical samples, armored vehicles, automobile equipment, move to another level of combat tasks, attach more unmanned aerial vehicles, both aerial unmanned systems and ground systems, implement important things for us in the future, in order to more successfully perform these...

task and return to the battlefield, that is why we have such a short period of time to rest, but as you understood from my report, we will not rest, we will prepare, because we understand that we are needed at the forefront. mr. rodion, before you we also spoke with the military man yevgeny ivlliv, with whom we spoke about the fact that he notices more and more how civilians... this so-called rest, i will say this, this this pause, the one that you use, of course with benefit, do you certainly have some conversations with people who are not in the military, who are civilians, do you also feel that this gulf is widening, i will honestly say that very... many servicemen who

return from the front line, that is, from the front line, er, there are also directly on the same list, i will say for ourselves, we... come back a little overheated, because the conditions there, they are extremely difficult, these are both living conditions, and in general the stress, the load that is present there, i see how the civilian population relates to this, for the most part , of course, this is support, this is respect, but also, unfortunately, a lot in... including civilians, they don't understand what's going on, starting with the fact that they don't respond to the air raid alarm, ignore the curfew and so on and so on, and it's very surprising to me in some, let's say, direction, that's why that in our

country there has been a war for the second year, unfortunately, the enemy is hitting our peaceful cities with rockets, and still even under such, let's say , difficult conditions, people somehow do not understand, i want to appeal to use your ether sometimes, including, to say that unfortunately, on today it is a reality, the reality is that we have to fight for our freedom and independence, and our freedom and independence is only after we are secure, security is... the exit to the borders of 91 and that complete neutralization of today's totalitarian terrorist regime of the russian federation, so it is a long time, but we will definitely do everything to

preserve our freedom, and we are now fighting not even for ourselves, not for modernity, but we are fighting for our future, the future of our children, which... we predict will be free, with peaceful skies and independent, uh, continuing there the topic that we also raised in the previous conversation, how to explain to a young person who does not want to go to war, why he should go and fight for the liberation of donbas, where everything has already been destroyed, where many of the population have pro-russian sentiments, and... how to explain to this person that going to the borders in 1991 is a vital necessity for this person? regarding what is happening now, there are certain, shall we say, and such annotations from the fact that one way or another

you need to fix yourself there, you need to go, god forbid there will be some negotiations and so on, but it repeats itself once again. it is necessary to understand that until the russian government , the terrorist government, does not fall, it is such an eternal, historical enemy of ours, then we will be in danger, and something will threaten our freedom all the time, so today, no matter how it sounds, our generation has fallen into such a time when we can finally place all the dots of hope, if we can, yes, allow ourselves such a phrase, and choose... our freedom, russia will not surrender, putin will not stop, they have gone too far, there is a lot of grief on our land, a lot of grief for our nation, such, you know, moments like encouraging

our people to forgive, i will not deal with, i will say the following that it is necessary to do everything in order to ultimately prove the historical. in the end to achieve complete security and independence of our country and continue to resist and go to victory. your brigade is one of the most combat-ready, one of the most effective, and this is a known fact, nevertheless, you are now restored, in our classified data on losses, obviously, it makes sense in this, and recovery, and you will also be engaged in recruiting, and ... the painful question is whether it makes sense for us further, for example, not to talk about our losses, because then maybe people just don't understand, we have a million soldiers in the army, what's going on, let them fight on, no matter how little or what a million, there

are only 400 thousand russians, if you believe our, our intelligence, our sbu, the two formations i would like to talk about are recruiting and... as for mobilization, today it is very important that all this work around mobilization works from two sides, firstly, yes, it is more effective mobilization, more effective administrative and legislative acts, what is happening at the moment does not completely satisfy me, i will tell you this , the fact that tsckashniks walk around the restaurants with weapons together with the security service there and so on and so on, all this is normal, but it does not look good enough for me, because the same bodies that are mobilizing. they were not given certain, shall we say, rights today for what

a person does not receive a summons, let's say, refuses to do it, he is only charged with an administrative offense, for today , during the war, i would form these processes into criminal liability, regarding... aspects, for example, from the civilian side, how civilians are treated now before the mobilization , after certain, let's say, including the errors of the authorities in media propaganda, when they said that everything is fine, everything is short-lived, and everything will end soon, therefore these two processes, they should go towards each other, and not, on the contrary, move away , the government today should do to you everything is clear for the civilian population, that is, the terms,

points of departure, the end point of the serviceman, if the serviceman wants to get into that other specialty in the future, he should be allowed to do so, and so on and so forth, to the tstskashniks and everyone who mobilizes, yes , it requires effective mechanisms and so on and so on. therefore, in this formation, these processes must meet each other, people must understand the importance of the presence of the army and one way or another, the war has already touched everyone, but we must understand that this is for a long time and we have to defend ourselves for a long time until we defeat russia, and the authorities must understand that it is necessary to launch such rotational, rotational waves in order to update the army, just like you. . said above and it is absolutely true, the war is bloody, the war is long, and the enemy

is not so, let’s say, weak, the enemy has advantages, advantages in the number of personnel, advantages in the number of means, and we need to compensate for this , on the contrary, we need to develop, harmonize, interact with the army and do everything in order to win cities, and lastly, taking advantage of the opportunity, we are currently in recovery, the recruiting company of the third separate assault brigade is working, so those who for some reason are not currently in the army, for some reason are not now came to this, i ask you to revise your views, look at reality, accept modernity and join the armed forces of ukraine, in particular the third separate assault brigade, why the third, why the third assault brigade? i will say so that we, as the third brigade, are competing for quality

, i think that this is normal, it will be fair, and true from my point of view, we do everything to ensure that our personnel is as well prepared as possible, we are good, we conduct several stages of training , this is the stage of training within the framework of the armed forces of ukraine, this is the stage of training... already directly below the brigade level and then the stage of training of a serviceman already in the unit where he is located, the second is staffing, one way or another we are working on completing servicemen in our brigade, means of both specific protection, and yes, we also pay a lot of attention to arming and equipping servicemen, well, and thirdly, this is her command, we, young people, modern

people, for the most part, having military, military experience with at the beginning of the 14th year, and we have continued it now, er, we are making a big bet precisely on planning, on interaction and on the preparation of all processes and activities that take place on the front line, so these three aspects, i remind you, are key, well and basic, we already have a well-coordinated team, there are people with experience who have passed not only the 14th year, but also a lot of operations after a large-scale second. we want to take the opportunity to join all willing volunteers to our big family, the third separate assault brigade. and how is the recruitment process? tell me more briefly, please? for today, recruiting continues with the help of questionnaires, which you can see on any

advertising, let's say, recruitment posters, videos in... fill out the questionnaire, go to the interview and start after the interview take the course of a young fighter, after which we even go to the extent of helping to prepare all the documents that are needed, to go through this entire bureaucratic path for today and to add a serviceman to our brigade, how many are willing now? today there are quite a large number of willing ones, but you understand that at the brigade level we will not stop, we need to develop the army, we need to grow, and our military unit will grow, and it depends on how quickly we uh pass all these measures ,

including from recruits, the third army, well, let's go look, i think that... our country will not depend on such a powerful, powerful, strong mechanism, in the format of the armed forces of ukraine. thank you, mr. radion, for the conversation, radion kudryshov, deputy commander of the third separate assault brigade of the armed forces of ukraine, was in touch with us, you all heard this call, one of the most effective, one of the most powerful, most modern units of the ukrainian army, is currently recruiting, and this is wonderful, in fact, it is an opportunity for those who feel the strength and courage to defend ukraine. with weapons in hand, we go for a short break, come back and continue to talk with a military expert, stay with us, turn on good - that's when everything is as you want, click,

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we are on the air again, pavlo lakiychuk , head of security programs of the strategy 21 center for global studies, captain of the first rank of the reserve of the ukrainian navy, joins us and we will talk with mr. pavl about... about the situation at the front and about the plans of the russians, which, according to the bilt publication , are such that they want to occupy donetsk region, luhansk region,

zaporizhzhia region and dnipropetrovsk region, in addition to what was already occupied. mr. pavle, how should we react to this information from the bilt publication, how should we react to the fact that the russians are going to occupy in 36 months. a country located east of the dnieper. good morning, glory to ukraine , it is normal to react, well, remember, almost two years ago, the russians were ready to occupy all of ukraine, to seize kyiv in three days, and that they did not succeed, because there are armed forces of ukraine, there are defense forces of ukraine, these are our children, it's us which. who have to unite to protect their homeland, we have no other way out, either we want to, or we are ready to go under the heel

of the occupier, or we will live in a free country, from a military point of view, well, first, well, this is a scoreboard, such to yourself, and you can say, well, don’t believe what they write in the newspaper, but on the other hand, when... remember two months, yes, two months, the end of december, the beginning of january, 21-22, i was also in the newspaper map, they published a map of what appears to be an invasion of russia's plans to invade ukraine, and many ukrainian experts, ukrainian politicians said, well, you, well , look, this is complete nonsense, starting from the invasion from crimea and... ending with belarus, that they will also crawl from belarus, so they did not believe it, it turned out that the information quite coincided with the real plans

of the russian federation, i don’t know where it came from in the meeting at bild this time, but the explanation can be quite simple, well, the russians are now conducting a strategic offensive operation, and at the level of... strategic planning, she, whatever what an operation, she consists of two stages, the first task and the next task. the first task is what must be accomplished right now, the next task is when we achieve the result of the first task, the result of the first task has been fulfilled, there are reserves, there are forces, the next task begins, it. for the long term, therefore, if it was really stolen somewhere from the russians from the plans of the operation, then you can see that the first task is to seize

the donetsk and luhansk regions, well, this is the way out of the split, and then the next task, if the first one can be completed, it must be understood again, the plans of the military are... only plans are plans, the implementation of the plans depends on two sides, on the sides of the conflict, and believe me, there are also plans of our military, here actually, if you try to simply assess the current growth, so to speak, the growth of at the present moment, we, again , are assessed by western experts as well, well, it's just that , as of now, the russians cannot make much progress anywhere, and at the same time, they are losing. quite a lot every day and strive, and that is why there are many assumptions, about this and barely says, and i don't know mikrain and all, all those experts, australian, american.

the british about the fact that they do not see the possibility for the russians to make any breakthroughs and serious advances as of now, but the main question, if we are talking about planning for 36 months, is the question, will the russians be able to maintain the state of the present, the present, let's say, pressure and pressure for 36 months, will they have the same number of mobilized, will they be as trained as they are now, will they... will the same equipment and that equipment will have approximately the same quality, volumes and volumes and so on that now, and question number two, what will be, what will the armed forces of ukraine be like in 36 months, will we be able to resist at the same level , what now? well, again we interpolate that picture to events in the future, again, if these are really plans that the russians have, then they are only plans, you know, as in the old joke that we have a joke. there was, and

there is a fish, there will be a fish, are you kidding, well, this is roughly the situation, they planned an offensive operation, it should include the following task, ugh, let's write, draw, you draw a map to the dnipro there, ugh, we'll have the strength, you draw, we'll figure it out, so you don't have to focus on it, but you have to keep it in mind. yes, look at it, but nevertheless , if we talk about the mobilization processes again, there is also a certain logic here, but yesterday we spoke with mr. penzen, an economist, and he says that now, if we take into account that ukraine has , for example, 17 million men, 18 - 60, this despite the fact that we now have only a draft of 27 years, that is, in fact, we cannot

even on this figure. to calculate, and there are some laws, purely mathematical, of economics, which say that the mobilization reserve, as a rule, is only 10% of this figure, which means that all the remaining 90% have to work in one way or another to ensure the effectiveness of these 10 that can fight, that is, this is the maximum reserve, then we come to a number that is not very large in this case, and for us in this case ... each soldier becomes extremely important, we cannot simply afford to lose them there by 1000 , as the russians pledge themselves, well, it is very good that they began to calculate the mobilization reserve as a percentage of the economy, it has been 80 years, the more, since the second world war, you look in all the analytical reports, and from... the calculations,

they are going from what is the total number of male population over 18 years old, and what are these huge numbers that they provide, especially for large countries, well, they have always caused concern and an attempt to explain that this is something wrong, but now ... they have roughly started wash a little it is better to count, and now you are transferring it to ukraine, the enemy also has limited mobilization reserves for us, and therefore these 300,300,000, even 300, as far as it is concerned, are literally a few seconds, the president of ukraine still has not signed the law of ukraine about ,

in order to reduce... the conscription age from 27 to 25, well, this means that the country's leadership sees certain reserves and even with such, thank you, mr. pavle, and now let's remind, a moment of silence , we remember all those who were taken away by the russian war . let's honor the memory with a moment of silence of ukrainian soldiers... and peaceful citizens of ukraine who died in the war started by russia.