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dear friends, we are returning to the ether, and now we will speak with taras zhovtenko, an expert on international security of the democratic initiatives foundation, a candidate of political sciences and a member of the public council at the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine. there is already taras, mr. taras on your screens. mr. taras, we congratulate you. congratulations. the welt publication says that ukraine is preparing a counteroffensive, which zaluzhny himself planned, and this counteroffensive will take place this summer. in 2024, somehow, in general, foreign publications are voicing different plans at odds, you no longer know whose plan to believe, or the one that sounds the best to the ears, or the one that is the worst and the most frightening to be ready , what do you say about it, or do we have the strength, the ability to launch a counteroffensive in the summer, and well, i'll start with the fact that it's actually very good that.. . that the western media, the expert environment
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is so actively discussing completely different scenarios, different options for the development of events, which are connected with the continuation of how the ukrainians take their territories from the russian invaders, because this means that, well, all these russian fairy tales of propaganda and the kremlin , and that everyone there is tired, no one wants to hear about ukraine and the russian-ukrainian war, in fact, all this is completely untrue. because we see that our western partners, the further they are, the more they begin to understand that the security of not only the countries of eastern europe will depend on how the situation on the battlefield in ukraine will develop, but the security of the european continent in general will depend in general, the security of the euro-atlantic space will depend, well, by and large , we see that the kremlin regime demonstrates that global security is also directly dependent on
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how successful ukraine will be on the battlefield, and actually the fact that different scenarios are being voiced now from optimistic, let's say less optimistic, this is also actually a good thing, because we understand , that our western partners do not have any exaggerated illusions about the fact that it is possible to relax and stop helping ukraine or help us less, for example, to allocate less money, less weapons and so on. we see that the discussions are in public. erased ours western partners, they testify that in fact, well, there is an awareness that the situation is not easy, and an awareness that ukraine must continue to be supported, not only at the level at which this support was in the 23rd year, but the intensity and the amount of this support must be increased, because after all, the plans that are being talked about not only in the context of the ukrainian counteroffensive, but also in the context of the fact that the russians are preparing for new offensive operations, well, this is precisely evidence for our western partners. for military and political
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leadership, that military aid to ukraine should be increased and, well , let's just say, give us more weapons and new weapons as well, what concerns the probable plans to continue the counteroffensive of the armed forces of ukraine in the winter-summer campaign, already in that form, in which this counteroffensive should be implemented this year, in fact, well, there is at least one argument that testifies in favor of such a development of events, which is that we are expected to start receiving western f- 16, with obviously, the entire line of weapons for these modern combat aircraft, and it is clear that the presence of western aviation in the ukrainian skies will greatly change the dynamics on the battlefield, primarily in favor of the armed forces of ukraine and in favor of increasing the effectiveness of the actions of ground units, so our so, at a minimum, this factor
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allows us to talk about the fact that, in fact, our counteroffensive operations are already from when we will have this new tool in our hands, when at least on one, on one section of the front, we can definitely talk about the fact that in we will have an advantage in the air, well, this really gives us additional opportunities to continue counteroffensive operations, exactly as we should have seen it this year and as our western partners expected it, well, actually. who is quoted there by dievelt, who was, i think, the deputy defense minister of germany, if i am not mistaken at the time, he indicates that in particular this list, which is apparently approved by washington for the next year of the handover, there are also f-18s and apache helicopters in that number, which are percussive, and this all indicates that, and also he says that according to oryx, 95% of this equipment, which we managed to transfer before the start of the counteroffensive. survived, it was not
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, was not destroyed during the offensive, accordingly, ukraine only maintains this offensive, offensive capabilities, but even strengthen them, because, for example, germany transferred only 30, out of 200 leopard tanks and another 170 are transferred right now to this at the moment, they continue to attack our weapons, that is, the main similar problem will focus primarily on mobilization so that we have powerful motivated enough forces for the offensive, if we actually talk about this moment, then we also have it on the other hand. there are other estimates, for example, cnn believes that if the aid program is not resumed, then in principle , on the contrary, ukraine may lose by the summer of this year, or is it more possible for an internal, so to speak, user of targeted information, in this way cnn, and the democrats are trying to incentivize
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the republicans, the republican majority now in congress, to speed up, and yes, actually, you're absolutely right that it's in the first the queue is internally oriented. to the domestic american audience, because , by and large, america is a reasonable democratic state, so where are the moods of citizens, their attitude to certain domestic and international events, they also shape the political agenda to a certain extent, especially , if we are talking about that part of the republicans, which is more conservative, more so, with far-right, so to speak, tones. well , by and large, this part of the republicans, being maximal populists, they will first of all say what will be popular and what will contribute to their popularity among their voters, so, in fact, this is what the american media would show
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such a picture, that really, really, the united states of america plays a key role a strategic role in supporting ukraine, well, because america has much more... so to speak, individual financial and military-technical resources than our other western allies, and without america's leadership, that is, in this international anti-putin coalition and in the coalition supporting ukraine, well, in fact, this is a direct road to russia's victory, russia's victory in ukraine, as other american media and many other western european publications also say, this is actually an open road. to the continuation of aggression already against nato member countries, and in fact this leads to the only correct conclusion , voiced by the biden administration and the vast majority of democrats and a large part of republicans, that in fact in this case america will have to pay a much greater and much more terrible price for
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well, to preserve stability at least on the european continent, not to mention the fact that, well, to preserve some kind of balance of power at the... global level, in the global security system, so it is obvious that such publications are primarily now this is the period when, starting monday, we expect that, well , you see, the same congress has not gone on vacation, and accordingly, americans, congressmen and republicans and democrats are ready to discuss and obviously vote, make decisions about all that, in order to still support the allocation almost a little over 60 billion in ukraine and somewhere around 40 billion in israel, so in a package with the financing of the strengthening of the southern borders of the united states there, well, and ultimately changes in the migration policy there, and in order for these discussions to take place, well, with the most correct understanding, well, everyone aspects of this situation, i think that cnn in this case
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is fully revealing to the american citizens and their elected representatives that not only security will actually depend on their decision. of the european continent, but also the security of the united states america, and if international security as well. vadym prystayko, who is already the former ambassador of ukraine to great britain, and by the way, we do not have an ambassador for almost six months, as after his release in a very key country, this is what he says about the fact that great britain will send its troops to ukraine if in ukraine will have a catastrophic development of the war. what he meant when he said the disastrous development of the war, he does not know whether the british who are considering it, and how realistic it is that britain will actually send her troops, or isn't this the start of a world war by russia? well, i'll start with the second part
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of your question, in fact, this story about the fact that the british can send their troops to the territory of ukraine, it's not really new, because... even in the summer there were such conversations, so about that london is supposedly officially considering as one of the options for responding to the escalation of the situation in ukraine, and to the fact that the russian army will... will have some local or tactical victories there at the front, and this will threaten the security of the rest of the territory of ukraine and potentially, this will threaten the security of at least the eastern flank of nato, so, accordingly, britain is considering the option of sending some limited contingent of its own military to the territory of ukraine in order to presumably help the armed forces of ukraine to solve some specific combat tasks on the contact line, well, but there was an official rebuttal both from the prime minister and
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the british ministry of defense, because at that time it was about, let's say, ensuring security, sending additional training missions, yes, i.e. the personnel of the british military, who should carry out the training of the ukrainian military already on the territory of ukraine in order to speed up this process and so that the armed forces of ukraine do not wait there for the next... a group of ukrainian servicemen will return from rotation there from training in great britain, and so in order to ensure the safety of these instructors on the territory of ukraine, and the option of sending the british military was considered, but from the very beginning of the russian full-scale war against ukraine in february 22, we saw that in fact, britain is taking such steps that our western, other western allies are only thinking about, yes, that is, the british were the first to give us tanks. the british were the first to give us storm shadow cruise missiles while
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western europe and the united states of america hesitated. and this is britain's proactive strategy in confronting russia's large-scale aggression and russian invasion of ukraine. it allows us to say that there is a certain probability that the british may be considering such a scenario, it is because, by and large, london. took the course that they will maximally activate their political role in europe, they will become an increasingly active player in european security policy, which means that they must, well, at least be one step ahead of all their other western allies europe, and here is one of the options for how to do it as efficiently as possible, as they say, to set the tone for all other allies, including the united states of america, by the way, this is really being considered. and to plan such a probable version of the development of events. mr. taras, thank you,
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taras zhovtenko, international security expert of the democratic initiatives foundation, candidate of political sciences and member of the public council at the ministry of foreign affairs of ukraine was with us. we are going to take a short break, then we will continue and talk about another war, the war in israel. stay with us. there are tingling and crawling sensations. cheap and do not worry you, the dolgit antineuralgia complex helps to normalize the functioning of the nervous system. dolgit antineuralgia helps to return to usual activities without tingling and numbness in the limbs. dolgit capsules antineuralgia. helping your nervous system. the story of the rise of the legendary nba team. in the hbo series, it's time to win. establishing the lakers dynasty. watch all seasons in ukrainian with a subscription. turn on what. in pharmacies, plantain is a savings for you
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proper names with myroslava barchuk, a series of conversations with ukrainian and western intellectuals. who interpret and comment the most relevant public discussions, what news will be analyzed by the guests of the project this week, and actually, who will be the guest of the studio? we will find out this sunday. undoubtedly, the topics will be relevant, the guests will be special. proper names with myroslava barchuk. sunday, 17:10 at espresso. dear friends, we
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are returning to the ground and now we will talk about the war in israel, but the interesting, interesting reaction of ukraine. wanted to ask if you know the results of the survey, yes, where are ukrainians, where among ukrainians only 1% support the actions hamas, and a huge number of ukrainians , it seems, about 60 to something more than 70 support israel in this, in this conflict or in this war, better to say, i don’t know
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if there is any country that has a larger, larger ratio in favor of israel. declared that they support israel in the fight against hamas, and of course, it is nice that ukraine supports israel, i think that we have something...
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there are children, old people, there are 240 people taken as hostages, there are also old people, children, some of whom still remain in gas sector, somewhere around 130-140 people, i think that to some extent it played a certain role, at the moment, of course, israel has its supporters, although it has its opponents, as always, as a matter of fact speaking of ukraine, in this sense the situation is really quite similar, is there any? mirror ratio, do many israelis support ukraine in exactly the same way, first of all during our war with russia, there were polls, and somewhere, if i’m not mistaken, about a month or so ago, maybe even a little longer, even before the start of the events between israel and hamas, as a result of the poll, 75%
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supported ukraine, which is nice, nevertheless, but how many were there who supported russia? about 10 or so percent are like that, the fact is that israel is such a sufficient state, so to speak, different people joke for a reason that jews of forty-three nationalities live in israel, so how would those who support russia really , well, they have the right, they want so, and not so to speak, they arrange some demonstrations, some actions, but they are a minority, and whatever, but they are, nevertheless, they are jews of soviet nationality. these are soviet jews, mr. marko, tell me, please, how many jews there are in israel who support hamas, are there any? look, there is no such thing as someone supporting hamas, in this particular case, yes, but there is, as you say, this is a very complicated issue, there are so
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-called left-wing forces, the fact is that israel is quite diverse, politically spectrum of its own, variegated a state in which there is everything, everything you want, the most diverse spectrum, from the extreme right to the extreme left, not that they support hamas, but there are those who stand on the side. the festival was held by supporters of friendship with the palestinians, by the way, and somehow among the dead there were a lot of left-wing people, radically left-wing, including one of
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the women, the founder of the human rights movement, who directly supported the palestinians, often contacted them and, as it were, called for because israel must withdraw from all territories there, that israel - this is a party state, but it died first, paradoxically enough. therefore, as if to say so, everything can be , that is, there are those, of course, there are those who believe that the palestinians are waging a just struggle, for liberation, for justice, and so on, so there are also those, and those who replaced their opinion after hamas did what it did is also the same, yes, by the way, they spoke openly and talked about what they saw, so to speak, to me like a person. who knows perfectly well what hamas is, who communicated with a representative of hamas - in the late nineties, of course, who knows very well the value of the words of these people, and
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knows what these people represent from themselves, it was certainly funny to listen to this insight, but nevertheless, as strange as it may be, so to speak , sometimes, apparently, insight occurs due to some kind of tragedy, yes, so to speak, i have such a phrase that when the blind see, they become prophets, so this is the case. when many people appeared on television and radio and said that so to speak, they were wrong, that they believed that it was possible, so to speak, through some kind of peaceful negotiations, a peaceful existence, to come to some kind of dialogue, to some kind of mutual understanding, and that they were mistaken, they understood that their mistakes were, so to speak, not just mistakes, but that so to speak, led to the tragedy on october 7. they asked for an apology from those people who convinced them to...
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where there can be terrorists, this is to some extent shocking, probably, the peace and increasingly more pressure, including from the united states , to end this war in like that i see, but netanyahu said that international pressure will not restore the war in israel against hamas, in your opinion, where, where is the horizon of this war, is it visible?
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i want to ask them, there is footage that is on the network, you can see it, yes, when , that is, according to some approximate data, so that it is clear, i will say, i will give statistics, that is, according to approximate estimated data, on the territory of israel on october 7 about 3-35 people broke through, the first, so to speak, wave of those who broke through -
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called, and there is even a captured frame, he there is a network where a grandfather of some castile from the gas sector runs, so to speak, hobbles to the kibbutz and begins, so to speak, looting everything he sees, everything he can get his hands on, moreover, there are witnesses, who talked about what they saw, how they shot unarmed people, children aged from 7 to 12 years old, you can
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imagine that, children... they shot people, brought them rifles, and children, these cute, so to speak, peaceful palestinian children were shooting people while laughing and smiling, what are we talking about, where are we? they saw peaceful people , where did they see a peaceful population, i want to ask me a question , therefore, of course, so to speak, i believe that there is no cruelty, there is a war, moreover, i want to tell you that countries with moderate sunni regimes such as...
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europeans, on the part of the americans, they found a new trick, so to speak, a new trick, yes, they are now talking, apparently, in order to balance the impression that they support israel, yes, that 's it , so to speak, by the way, it is necessary to give more rebuke the israeli settlers who show violence against the unfortunate palestinians, now such a new feature has appeared, the americans said that they will not give visas to the settlers,
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therefore they must be punished, and israel really has the right to self-defense, and israel must act like this , how he should act, the americans say, on the other hand, on the sidelines, they say that israel should end the so-called active phase of hostilities at least by the end of january or by the middle of january, and then it already goes into the second phase, which will be less active, which will provide
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