i think that his heart would not be able to withstand so much coffee, of course, but we have to understand with you that all the leaders of the european union are really here, taking very seriously the task they have set before themselves to make a decision about opening speech. negotiations on membership with ukraine, with moldova, on other decisions, they, of course, made an effort to play this game, in dozens of hands, on an instrument that would give such a beautiful, beautiful result, as we got after the meeting of the european council, when really historical, historical mission for himself there, outlined an additional new historical mission.

what do you think ukraine will get, do you think we should treat ourselves to coffee again, that is, there is such a strange situation there, on the one hand there are threats from brussels to budapest, that they say we can somehow do without your veto, and on the other hand orban himself , hungary itself is pressing, and if this is the moment i... i can't understand who can defeat the threats to hungary from brussels, they will say, listen, well, we can't be dependent on you all the time, so we cancel this uniformity, or on the contrary , the official policy of budapest will prevail, but to cancel uniformity just like that, it is definitely not possible to decide to cancel uniformity, there are decisions that are necessarily adopted by consensus, there are decisions that are in accordance with rules and procedures.

of the union, there are decisions that can be made by a majority, a qualified majority, and in order to change these approaches, in fact, it is necessary to change the treaty on the basis of which the european union functions, and it is not so easy, it is obvious, first of all, agreement, and then the ratification of this treaty by all 20-7 parliaments, so you and i must understand that... european colleagues, they hope to still find an opportunity to convince the leader of hungary, the head of hungary, that the decision to change the financial, financial framework for the next four years of the european union, within the framework of which there is also this assistance mechanism for ukraine for 50 billion euros, it was a decision. by all 27 countries, and that is why i

think that this decision has been delayed because at the moment it has not been possible to get agreement, including the prime minister of hungary, but i think that the aid to ukraine, financial, financial, this component of aid to ukraine will be in one way or another, whether through a qualified majority or. by full consensus, was nevertheless adopted in january at the emergency summit that charles michel had already announced would be convened in january. look, i would like to ask this, but on the 18th , the negotiations will start as if it were already december, and the question, and this is a well-known question, but conventionally speaking, they say, this, this candidate, we we start to negotiate, and there is some general plan, it doesn't matter. for

estonia, for croatia, which is not, well, the last one to join yes, and it is written there that this is the first step to start negotiations about this, about this, about this, in two weeks about this, about this, about this, in two weeks years about this, about this, that is, we understand whether it is a new admission scheme every time, well, not quite so, it is obvious that there is a general pattern, and now the european commission will move first of all to assessing the level accordingly. our ukrainian legislation, of the legislation of the european union , to carry out the so-called screening, we know that the government has already conducted its own self-assessment, but the result of the european assessment will certainly differ from what the government came up with, i am convinced of this, but there is already a lot to work on, this is the first, besides, you and i obviously have to understand that the european union , taking into account all that for... the legislation

that was adopted, including from the time of the last country that has already entered the path to joining the european union, has take into account all this legislation. comparing with how, how and what ukraine has done, and where it is at this stage, should also formulate a negotiation framework, regarding the approaches that the first, the second, the third, it will be, this, it differs, of course, between countries, but... i understand that there is a problem with the connection, yes? yes, something, sometimes you say something, sometimes you don't say it, i don't know, we will have a problem with the connection with mrs. ivana, yes, i will try to continue, then, but there are things that are unchanged for all countries, and the first thing that opens the chapter for discussion, for consideration

, for implementation, this is the chapter of the so-called fundamentals, this is democracy , this is the rule of law, these are the principles of the balance of power, these are the things that determine, in fact, those, well, basic values, on which the european union stands, and it is this chapter that will be closed last, i.e. these are the things that will be monitored to the last before joining the european union, but now the approach has been slightly changed compared to what happened before. negotiations, therefore what was discussed about separate chapters, now there is a readiness to proceed to negotiations by clusters, that is, by wider such, say , tracks of agreement and legislation, and actually then rules of procedures and practices, as it really

happens, so to pass laws is only half affairs, and in fact it is their observance and how they are implemented in life, and how they ... act, and this is exactly what will be evaluated in the future, so it is definitely not about what two weeks, and let's move on to the fact that we will move to these time frames precisely in compliance with how ukraine will cope with its homework, after the negotiations are fully opened, after the framework will be agreed upon, and this negotiating...framework will be agreed through the adoption of the decision of such an intergovernmental conference, and we must remember but, once again, rejoicing, absolutely rejoicing at the historic decision made by the european council, we must understand that

we must not fall into euphoria, because, unfortunately, at each of the stages of these steps to membership, well... it can be this or that country, but we so far we see a promise from the prime minister of hungary, who can take and veto certain decisions. look, mrs. ivano, this is a very important issue, you touched on it, i would just like to expand on it a little bit, an absolutely fair remark that on the one hand, the reform of the legislation, on the other hand, of practice, and then the ukrainians... the question will certainly arise from many, at least those who follow politics, that our legislation can be wonderful, and many people, experts say, we have a wonderful constitution, wonderful laws, we just live badly, why, because the laws are not enforced, and the constitution is often not enforced, so how expensive, they generally

understand in brussels that to pass a law and to make it work, these are generally, as they say in odessa, two big differences, they understand this, and they will make sure that they don't just... talk and raise their hands or press buttons, and then nothing changes, please believe me, of course, that they understand, they are very deeply aware of this, we in fact, again, not only are they so smart, but who is trying, trying to do only half the job, let's say, well, for example , the same law on media that was passed, it's definitely very good that we ticked this, well this is this tick, that we are the law... but now we we will obviously move on to monitoring, and how does this law work , and does it really ensure freedom of speech in ukraine, and is it really a working tool and is it a working approach, and you and i know that, unfortunately, today is a great european

law, which was adopted, it actually does not enable ukraine to have freedom of speech speech and freedom of the media, and this is one of those examples that will definitely ... be reflected in the specific recommendations that we will receive in the future. and such an urgent question , the most important one, i... in your opinion, the cabinet of ministers, the verkhovna rada is ready for these challenges, there is understanding, okay, brussels has experience, they accepted poles, estonians, croats, and whom they only they did not accept it, and they understand, yes, there may be such mistakes somewhere, here we correct them, and the ukrainian authorities have a similar understanding, i am not talking about the same understanding as in brussels. that we need to take such steps, take such steps and do them quickly, if we want

to get there quickly, and quickly - this is how i imagine it, in the most ideal version, it is five or six years, but you have a good ideal version, very, this is your ideal option, you know, ukrainians probably don't have a lot of understanding, because i want to remind you that prime minister shmygel promised one and a half years ago that in two years we will already be full members of the european union. union, so we should already be there in six months, if it were adequate and full understanding of what is before us, what tasks are before us, we actually now need to focus on restoring the institutional capacity of the state of ukraine, both in the ministries and at the level of the apparatus of the verkhovna rada of ukraine, in general at the level of the civil service, we need to renew high-quality selection for... well, service and fighting as much as possible for those people who can today add professionalism to each of our

decisions, this is extremely important, by the way, this will also be one of the main such fundamental things that will immediately be checked, whether ukraine has this ability to implement the tasks before us, and it seems to me that it is important for all of us to abandon , you know, such a cap-tossing policy, and we need to... move to a very thorough, meaningful , planned, prioritized work, when we will understand in advance, and what bills we would like to pass, and how we will consult about it with different parts of society, with different groups of influence, with different stakeholders, and that is, to take into account their interests, take into account their concerns in order to reach a negotiating position from our side. one that will take into account our interest, but at the same time will have the flexibility to

fully implement the rules that are already working in the eu today. the last may be a question , but it is important, but you know, ukrainian people, citizens of ukraine, generally do not have a green concept , as they say, canadian ukrainians do not have, and what is our plan, if anyone... some deputy says that give a plan from the hard-working, that all understand that this is absurd, because it's okay to show the whole world where we are advancing, where we are accumulating strength, but the entry plan or the steps are concrete so that people know where to move, so that people understand what we are setting before us, it is not up to us with a whip brussels, and we say, in order to improve the lives of our citizens , we have such priorities and we want... to do this within six months or a year, and then ukrainians will begin to understand that there is such a plan, mr.

mykola, it is the direct responsibility of the government, and i hope that after this decision that we received from of the european council, the government will now focus precisely on producing such a plan, coordinating it with the verkhovna rada of ukraine, so that we can prioritize tasks now for ourselves, and everyone can focus. on that part of the work that will depend on him, so i hope that together with you , and well, with our insistence and such public pressure, parliamentary pressure , we will receive from the government at least a version of the project, a plan with which we can continue to work, thank you yours truly, ivana kushinsadze, people's deputy of ukraine. chairman of the committee of issues of ukraine's integration into the european union, i will say

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jump over the house of representatives and say that ukrainians need 60 billion they should be given, that is, what is the option here, they can work without each other, or is the procedure such that both chambers must agree on this or that bill? no, they cannot work without each other, because the parliament is in the united states bicameral, and both chambers have absolutely equal rights in the adoption of laws, therefore any draft law, to become a law, must be adopted by both chambers in the same version, and only then it can be signed by... that is, they, they are absolutely connected in this, although they work separately, but in order for the bill to become law, they must adopt the same wording, or none. who can't be different, mr. professor, and then what is the pathos of the fact that the senators stayed to work, and there are many in ukraine

believe that they partially, at least , stayed to work for the sake of ukraine , the house of representatives went on vacation, and and and then, well, then the senate should go on, well, it can at least go on vacation, do they want to hold some negotiations there to interest.. . and the house of representatives to help ukraine, well, the fact is that although in order for the draft law to become law, it is necessary for both houses to adopt it in the same wording, but the houses work separately, they have their own agenda, and the senate's agenda is set by the senate majority leader, which is democrat chach schumer right now, because the democrats hold the senate majority, and the house's agenda is set by its speaker, the speaker of the house is mike john. a very right-wing politician, very close to donald trump, and his so-so demonstrative decision that the house of representatives is already going on christmas and new year vacation, well, it

is connected with the fact that he is cool with the adoption of this bill, in the senate, well, of course, chah schumer is very interested in this bill being adopted and that is why the senate continues its work, it is obvious that there is some kind of court. positive in terms of negotiations between republicans and democrats, regarding a compromise that does not concern ukraine, which concerns immigration legislation, which republicans are trying to connect with this bill, but look, if the senate votes for this bill, then that's all the blame for the fact that it is not considered will be the speakers of the house of representatives, that is, it after all, it still had a rather significant influence. on the house of representatives, in particular on its speaker. another important issue is absolutely likbezi's. congress prohibited

the president of the united states, any president, from withdrawing the united states from nato. it seems to me that this was approved in the budget. and i would ask you to clarify what i am sorry for. i know everything about american legislators that it is very difficult to pass a bill and make it a law, but it is three times more difficult to redo from from to pull back the law that law and make it it is again a draft law, and they say that this will definitely never happen now, and america will always be in nato, as far as i am correct, well , it was accepted, it was proposed. in fact, even a separate law was proposed to be adopted by senator kaine, a democrat, and senator rubio, a republican , but it very often happens

that things that are not directly relevant are inserted into the budget bills, but since the budget bills, in particular the military budget, they must be accepted, because otherwise the country cannot work, the army will be without money, if there is no defense budget, well, you decided... you decided to insert it there as an amendment to the defense budget, well , it is of course as a fuse, a fuse from trump, because trump constantly repeats that he will withdraw the united states from nato , he has repeatedly said this, and this is a safeguard against him, because the protocol on the united states to nato, well, actually, actually the washington treaty itself, which created nato, it was ratified by the senate, all international united states treaties must be… blocked by a 2/3 majority in the senate, but to withdraw from the treaty, it can be decided by the president, so trump can't decide to withdraw from nato if he is

president, or if anyone like him is president , and wants to make a decision to withdraw from nato, this amendment was voted on, so now, now the president has no right, without violating the law, to make a decision to withdraw from nato. now about the budget. the fact that we just touched on the budget, that within the limits of this budget this draft law was adopted, it became by law, i did not look, honestly, i will tell you the numbers, but i say that it is unprecedentedly large, if it is really unprecedentedly large for the army - in general, the budget and the military part are very large, as a rule, when such a budget is presented, where large expenditures on defense, there is bicameral support, whether the doves are defeating the hawks, or the hawks are defeating the doves, or whether the situation in the world is such that everyone understands that it is necessary

to spend more on defense, or you. make some tough discussion that we don't need so much hundreds of billions, let's say a little 50 billion less, or something like that, your analysis, by the way, i analyzed who voted for this bill in the senate and in the house of representatives, who voted against it, well, in the senate, 87 senators voted for it, it's true such bipartisan support, there were several such very right-wing republican senators voting. against, and several left-leaning democratic senators voted against, in the house of representatives, this bill, as it turns out, could only be passed on a bipartisan basis, because there are radical people in both parties who simply oppose defense spending, and there are so many of them, there are more than 70 trump-oriented republicans, and more than 40 democrats, there are a few ultra-leftists, there are some...

the number of left-oriented parties, therefore, although the qualified majority in the house of representatives is 310, 2/3, that is 290, 310 voted for it, but without the support of both parties it would be impossible to accept it, that is, there are moderates, at least deputies from both parties have an understanding that expenses on defense is needed, that it is necessary to increase them because of the situation in the world that is taking place today, and among the radik. both on the right and on the left, there is a misunderstanding of this, well, there are more right-wing radicals than left, but the extremes always converge at one point somewhere, mr. professor, maybe the last, maybe the penultimate question, and the arguments, you understand, we, we are not in america we live, and in ukraine, well , for example, someone is against, and he says, instead of, well, now during the war , no one says that, thank god, instead of

to spend money... there , let’s spend money here, in america they also say, let’s have better roads , we will have better cars, or better, i don’t know , better education there, or better medicine, that is, when they object , what they say on the contrary, if we round off what you say, then that's exactly what it is, because well, let's say the far-right republicans, they think, well, why should we waste money. how much money is there for defense, we have to spend money here inside the country, and the ultra-left democrats they generally believe that it is not necessary to have such the strongest army in the world, to spend so much money on defense, because it is not necessary, it is better to spend it on some social expenses and increase them, well , they go astray to such extremes, but the arguments are approximately the same themselves, that it is necessary to spend money on something else within the country, every party there, radicals from every party, they

believe that it is for something of their own, but to spend it on something else, that is exactly how it is. i would like to thank ihor eisenberg, a professor at new york university, i will add from myself a few more words, well, it’s like that, you know, like that roasted rooster that pecks somewhere, and then a person starts scratching the back of his head, just like in ukraine, now everyone is so smart, they say, we should have thought about defense before and invested money in the defense sector, but... 10 years, 20 years, 30 years ago, no one thought so, and we see, and in america, everyone, not everyone thinks so, eh, now, when there is a war in europe and in asia, and and this is an important moment to understand that people are still people, they make mistakes, it seems to us from today that if we were 30 years old therefore, as presidents, we would behave differently, experience shows. that we

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