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well, i don’t know there are 500 shells to become really professionals, what kind of money is this, that if one shell is 200 $, yes, they will not hit from the first 500 of these shells, you understand, yes, until they learn, here it is just in some , i don’t know, i don’t know what kind of attitude it is to personnel, and we are just now letting these people fester in the trenches, who already know how to hit the enemy with, well, let’s not say from the first, from the second projectile, what is the problem and why are such decisions necessary , probably, i hope that this is not some kind of special intention. but simply because there is no other throw out yes, no, we do not underestimate the number of dumb people in the population, this is a general human problem, i will tell you, but what does dumb mean in principle? yes, stupid is not a person who has a low intelligence, it is not a bad person, it can be a good person with a high intelligence, but who causes losses to himself and others by his actions. ugh, unfortunately, in principle, we now have such a situation in the country for a long time that we have...
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the elite consists of stupid people, and when the elite consists of stupid people, this stupidity permeates all echelons, right up to the military tactics, strategy, because i don't understand who might be interested in spoiling the calculation of some sau who was liberating snake island, who would be interested, who would benefit from it, just to take away from them, i don't know, the same itself there, for example, to bohdan there and give it to someone... freshly mobilized so that they learn not to shoot and beat the enemy. in which, in which city of the chain do you think this lag occurs? i ask now, bringing to the topic, such a confrontation between the voiced and the unvoiced in the military and political sphere i don't know anything about it, i'll tell you right away, i have, i have my very narrow piece of work, yes, i have my platoon, a certain number of guys. there is a section of the front, there are combat
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tasks that need to be solved, i don’t know much about it, but everything i see around me now i really don’t like, our army is gradually turning into a soviet army , there is a lot of tyranny, very little cooperation, i remember the first year of the war, for example, when i fought in the 17th brigade, before each operation the commanders gathered, i don't know, in at some school, in some class, at the desks, we discussed every step, what we would do, we haven't done this for a whole year, no more... like that, yes, when intelligence had previously given me some goals, it was just that the guys found out that i'm on my knees, and they 're flying somewhere and they see something there , they found me, they were looking for targets, now i have to do my own reconnaissance, huh, that is, i don't really understand what's happening and why and who needs it now, what now we have such a situation in the army that we are gradually becoming similar to the russian army, qualification of commanders at a certain level can be a problem, and the biggest problem.
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the sure value of human life, again, at the beginning of the war, we simply blame the russians for this, at the beginning, at the beginning of the war , human life was highly valued in the brigades, well, in the brigades, let's say this, professional brigades, which have been there since the 14th year , because again, every loss at the front, and from the 14th year to the 22nd year, these were checks at once, and what happened, and why so, and somehow it was already like that... sewn in blood , what do you need to appreciate, and here for six months, another six months, another six months, how come we fall so low, now we have it, i often come across the fact that teams brag about the number of losses, we fought so well, we have so many losses, and this is a kind of indicator the effectiveness of their involvement in real combat work, unfortunately, unfortunately, there are problems with this, very big problems, and yes, i was not ready for the fact that i will hear it so openly now, but honestly ...
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similar signals from military personnel , they periodically sound, but you know, us, us, to civilian people, we understand that a person who is in combat conditions and at the front, he can see a specific shade there exclusively of his own, and besides, well, we understand that he is a person with the maximum amount of critical thinking on the one hand, but also emotional intensity, so we... how much this can be attributed to real history, i don't know, we have, i'll tell you, a very big shortage, a shortage of military personnel at the front now, we have a breakdown in mobilization, that is, once again, understand that all warriors in spirit, they didn't sit at home, they already went to fight in the first days of the war, again, all people with increased responsibility to their country, they also left , i don't know if there were very serious reasons there with children, with... health, yes,
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but all those who could somehow do it, they gave up everything and went to fight again at the beginning of the war, now the situation is such that... many of these people have already finished, let's say this, yes, many of them have already not the right, wrong physical level to continue to be constantly at the front, concussions have a very strong effect on the psyche, that is, i more than once i have come across the fact that a wonderful person , a wonderful soldier, after several concussions and getting into serious alterations, he simply gives up psychologically, he begins to have panic attacks, that is, against this whole background, of course, an influx of new blood is needed, but what is it again ? blood, yes, that is, these are the people who are not actually ready to fight, we certainly have problems with this, and why am i talking about it all, and besides, no matter what my opinion is, well, you can think that i am there with front and that's why i'm so full of emotions, but people must be protected, i'm talking about this, especially to protect those who, which, which, since the beginning of the war
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, which professionals, well, in principle, there are different , there are different means, there are weapons, there is intelligence, there are but... new technologies, and in order to protect people, protect professionals , this is not a way out of the situation, let's mobilize someone fresh, send them to study in britain, then we will have an elite military unit there, an elite brigade, it's not true , it doesn't work, they already made one such brigade , the 46th, which lost a lot of equipment, a lot of people, people went through 100 exercises, fought for three days, that's where they ended, you understand, it doesn't work, that is, people need to be worked on, people need to be protected. to develop a professional level , you can’t finish these and recruit new ones somewhere, i ’m mainly talking about this first of all, that’s why we need to move away from these companies, where we, let’s say, sacrifice a large part of the personnel, for the sake of some small
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tactical victories, and maybe these are not victories at all, yes, if we put, put military professionals for this, but we still need to include more in our heads more... include technologies, teach people more, and again, not the newly mobilized, let the newly mobilized, who are just right for them, go to the front , so that they gradually recruit there, the most important thing, first, by the way , is to learn to survive in the war, so let them go to the front to learn to survive little by little, and in this time, let's still take professionals from the front, teach them the next technologies, give them new weapons, they will then again cover these mobilized, freshly mobilized, give them the opportunity somewhere there, not quite... on the front line, but somewhere there on the second, on the third to learn by leaps and bounds, that is, it is necessary to put all this interaction and exchange of these people in a professional way, but professionals must again be given the opportunity to rest and learn and feel sorry for them and not
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frosty winter and unpredictable spring. you will always be warm, comfortable and dry. universal design, basic black color and good price. only from 799 hryvnias. call let's move with you a little in the reality of not active hostilities, but... but you know, there is also some kind of internal struggle here, maybe a little more in the rear, i don't get the impression that mimicry has reached some simply crazy, full scale in these two years , as well as our war with the russian federation, it concerns a large number of people who, after february 22, and very successfully and some extremely organically look in a patriotic role, don't you understand? how it relates to actions or in a man's thoughts or words , how he used to live, i was asked to ask you this, here
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is just the story of mr. wilkol, listen, well , glory, first of all, thank god, thank god, because the fashion for patriotism is the best that may be in the country for the development of patriotism, as for mr. vilkul, then there was a tear for him, in fact, this is not mimicry, the wolf from the first legs began to be protected by a crooked horn. so they're different things, listen, the man who came out and said, "i was wrong," uh, he said, i was wrong, you bandera people were right, i am with you, and he really was with us, and he is with us now, yes, all this time, in fact, i see other things here, and tell me, please, in our government there, you know a lot of those who said , and i was wrong, i bring it to this point, how can we really distinguish, you know, a person who has changed his views and tries with all his... his daily work to correct even his own mistakes from mimicry
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, the matter is not even that, that is, i absolutely believe that various circumstances can influence a person to change his views if that person changes his views on the state, thank god, on my knees before this person is ready to stand up, but again our trust in this, yes, that is, there is a person who says that she has changed her views, well, not a person, a state, let's say, a person, a person who calls itself as a state an actor, yes, i will not say a politician, because i distinguish a little between a politician who fights for power and the influence of a statesman who wants the state to develop, preserve, defend itself, yes, but in our country, in principle, politicians often say that they in fact, there are statesmen, that is, a person, who call themselves statesmen, yes , there are changes, views have really changed , before it was cotton wool, before what a difference, let's look after putin, make a diversion, demine the whole world, most importantly, stop shooting and everything is fine with us. we are a great ukrainian nation that can
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stand up for itself, we will have a ukrainian army, we will have ukrainian weapons, we have a great future in front of ukraine, and rashka goodbye, ugh, there will never be these mistakes again, okay, i am with this person ready to do a lot together, but i want to be sure. i'm sure it's not a game, it's real, yes, in that case i want to hear from this person, i'm sorry, i'm so-and-so, i was wrong, we used to persecute people like you who advocated the statehood of ukraine, we simply persecuted , we tried to destroy , we tried to destroy the ukrainian defense, we tried to destroy the ukrainian army, because we were wrong, because there were very, very many quilters in ukraine who expected this from us, we wanted to be among them popular and... so we were wrong, sorry, let's move on to move together, i am ready to move together with such people, yes, well, there were such people,
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for example, the same vilkul, but in the modern ukrainian government, a wolf is not exactly the power, yes, well, in general, not even at all, not even at all the power, yes , but in the modern ukrainian government , i still can't trust any of our powerful people there, because these words were not said to me, we, like me, were not said these words, that is, we are actually in a situation where... you have more points of contact with the branch than where with some who may not so tarnished in the context there to a long reputation, but still did not say anything important, i again, why, why i do not trust, but because i am afraid that in this case, saying such words, they want to throw us patriots into a waste, yes , why are we there, why is someone there now bragging about the number of dead, yes, maybe it is just profitable to grind us patriots, yes, to stay. in this in this country with those who are now avoiding mobilization, but this is
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the basis of the lectureship of our government, but what will happen next again, well, it’s a swing, if to destroy us ukrainian statesmen , to once again resist those who are against any kind of struggle, think only of some small or a little bigger trough, will it not swing in... in the other direction, will we not search again - still slavery in the arms of the rascal, yes, that's why, in principle, i am very very. we were not very interested in the fact that the defenders of ukraine would be sacrificed, this means, this could mean that our fight for ukraine could be sacrificed, huh, and a few more really important questions, me me we have prepared them with the team, but everything goes as it goes on the wave, on sincerity, and i can't
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help but ask, your expectations there, for example , a year ago, at the end of the 22nd year. and here we are celebrating the 23rd, what it was, what it is , to what extent, that is, everything that will happen in the 22nd, in principle, you predicted, even in your last program on espresso, but did you predict the 23rd year the way it was, yes, i believe that the war will continue for a very long time, i believe that the war will continue for a very long time, in fact, even a year ago, i already, i started saying that the war will continue for at least 5 years, ugh, at the moment i am ready to say that it will even be even longer, but... this is the front, despite all the problems that i just told you about, in principle, by and large , we won the war, which means we won, we can hold the front, yes, we can defend, defend ourselves from the offensive of the russian federation, regardless of how the adequacy there increases, how our adequacy decreases, we can still hold this front, and exist as a state at
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the same time, the statehood of ukraine is now threatened much less than it was in the 19th and 20th. that's why the 21st year is much less, but what will this state be like, this is already a very serious question, i believe that judging by the way all this is moving, this state will be bad for a very long time, because despite the fact that it is growing again the power of our defense is increasing , the level of patriotism is increasing, this is also protection, the level of national culture is increasing, this is also our protection, but we are losing freedom of speech, we are losing. water as such, we are losing the institutions of the state, we, we have lost the state elite, that is, the elite as such we already have in the principle has been gone for a long time, this country already exists far without an elite, and therefore, therefore
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, i cannot say that this country will quickly, let's say, flourish, but on the other hand, on the other hand, you understand, m... for the life of the country that we have already defended, the statehood that we have already defended, what is 10 years, it is nothing for the life of the country, for the life of the state, for the life of ukraine, it is nothing, it is a small period for ukraine, it is a big period for human life , yes, but i will tell you, modern society, modern society, modern men, ukrainians deserved it, unfortunately, unfortunately, it was basically their hands that destroyed state institutions, destroyed the army at one time, and destroyed the state elite. and that's why it's a long way now, how are we going to get out of this hole, pay with our life time. pay for it. an important and very delicate point: the council passed a new law on the national military memorial cemetery. and we understand how important it is now
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to approach this topic competently and subtly. we see various not very successful attempts to perpetuate the memory ours heroes, and a systematic approach is not enough to make it both ethical and aesthetic, and generally for the future. it affects you a lot, your family as a whole, and no matter how you see it, how, how you think about this project in general, if you think, to be honest, i didn't think about it, i didn't think about it, the only thing i want to say that it seems to me that what i see is too much criticism of facebook, well, in principle, ukrainians always don't like anything, and too much... well, actually, this is not the topic where it is necessary to criticize like that. in principle, i think, here i even have to, i, as a widow, i would like to receive even more support than critics in these topics. to be honest, i have a lot of criticism, even a little upset about it. ugh. that's what i can say. if we talk about some kind of vision. it's hard for me
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to talk about it, i didn't think about it, to be honest, i didn't think about it. i would think about it there. about myself, what will happen to you, sometimes i think about my boyfriends, but i don't think about such general things in this context i was thinking, well, in your opinion, does this speak about the tendency to destroy the elite and institutions in our country, when people, in particular , artists who have specific visions, should be engaged in this work, but it is being sabotaged there at various levels, and we still don't have any unconscious version of the literate. honoring the memory of our heroes, i can't answer this question, honestly, i can't, i can't, because here, it's not that simple, the washers also try to do what they can and... in principle, any what an initiative, actually hers we need to support, huh, not criticize , i want to say this again, there is too much criticism, okay, let's not criticize,
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finally, i would probably like to ask how is your family and how do you feel on those days when you not at the front, but you have the opportunity to at least meet me, i am very grateful to you for this time, and my family, thank god, in fact, i will tell you, i am happy for this country. man, why am i a happy person, i don’t have a husband, son, father, and not even a brother fighting, although my brother fought, but he got enough injury, and here i am, in principle, because of this , i am a happy person, i also want to tell you that i still have a family, this is my platoon, to be honest, well, you just already know some, these are already family relations, two years already in the same trenches, we know everything about each other in... we already somehow perceive each other in a family way, and any problems, well, how about family members, so actually i have a lot of family now, a lot well, i won't ask
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which one you are drawn to more, probably when you are in kyiv these few days, you want to be closer to his front-line family, when you are there, of course he wants to have children, but now we see this time. how much life has not stopped and how much people continue to live as if it were the last day, sometimes, looking at some, i really get the impression, as you see, that i think that all the military understand, we are harnessing for a long time and we have to harness for a long time now, but not all civilians still understood that this is for a long time and it is necessary somehow to use one's own strength and resources here in civilian life, relatively speaking, also to calculate with... look for war, is it at least? listen, again, i would not like to criticize now, because i will say that we are all not without sin, because, for example, if i think about it more than once,
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there is my, for example, family, it is very well, it is a big family, yes, these are cousins, sisters, their, their families, so our whole family is fighting, my brother and i are from all over there, yes, that is, i can't speak now, i 'm coming to kyiv, everything is so annoying god everyone lives peacefully here, it's the same in my family , yes, it's the same, only my brother and i we are fighting from our entire huge family, but you understand, it is also very difficult for me to speak objectively about it, because i am also weaned from this life, that is, when i come to kyiv, everything annoys me not only because it is wrong, something is happening , and because my life is different, i'm coming, i'll tell you now, to kyiv, like to another country, but really like abroad, huh. i, i have a completely different life, i just laugh, you know, when he says, before, for example, i really liked to travel, yes, we like to travel a lot, i i say, now my life is also full of traveling,
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traveling to the neighboring landing, to the neighboring house, somewhere else, that is, the whole universe, so that you understand, to take a certain position , it is a whole universe, it is a whole country, listen, you know, every tree, each branch, run 50 m, this, listen, it's not that simple, but it's real. i'll say 50 m of movement, that's fine , yes, so that's the case here, i actually know this, this is another very big question, what to do with all those people who return from the war, so that they already have a completely different way of thinking, and you you will understand, if a different way of thinking was formed over the course of six months, and if it has been forming as i have for almost two years, and what will happen in three years, and what will happen in four years, i am coming to kyiv, as in a completely, well, foreign culture to me, i'm a stranger, all this to me... is simply immeasurable, but it's not because everything is bad here, but because i've become different, yes, and we have problems with this, there are really problems with this, there will be problems with the integration of people, which
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of course will be crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, there will simply be problems, and the ministry veterans, veteran programs that should be developed right here and now, do you hear something, do you know something, no, i don't hear anything, i don't know anything, i don't know anything about this, about these programs, i don't know anything about women's uniforms, i don't know anything . so on, a lot of things are happening here, but here everything is different there, well, what is the reason for such a gap, here we have more, sorry for the live broadcast, and we live and it seems to us that we are aware of absolutely everything, or we and we, in particular, journalists point to it a little bit, listen, you know, i'm talking about it a lot again you think , values completely, completely, completely change, then you come to some awareness, and i, for example, realized that i... for example, i fought for justice all my life, yes, and i realized that i always lost in this struggle, i i think so, my god, and that's how it goes in life, when you fight for justice, you lose, but
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when you fight... for survival, you win, but now i'm fighting for survival, in each case i win, i i think, my god, how my life has turned out, you know, to fight, okay, i am here to amuse you, you understand the absurdities you are reaching , but this struggle for survival, well, as if the whole country is engaged in it now, well, everyone seems to go to work in the morning, he is already fighting for survival , true, even if this work is located in lviv. behind my back, i am losing the country , i am losing democracy, yes, i am losing that free country, a very free country that used to be, in which it was very comfortable, yes , we are losing it, but damn, it turns out that you have to pay for everything, you i don't want to blame those in the rear, i don't want to, i don't want to, because we are not finalizing it, i don't want to, i don't want
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to blame, that's all. systemic things, you understand , very systemic things, not everything is so simple , there are no simple solutions to complex problems, so we have to choose, to be in the area where it is more difficult, well, for example, now the front area is really more difficult, and if we lose the front, yes, we will lose everything, here i tell you, well, 10 years of the country's life, 20 years of the country's life, then somehow that's all. we are winning, many people said before, no you can say if, we say only when, but in my opinion it is very infantile to talk about the victory as a fait accompli already now, you can, but what kind of victory is it, yes, in principle , the victory of the defense of statehood, it is, we won, again, we won the war to protect our statehood, no matter what happens next, this country will be here, no matter what
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happens. this state will be in any case, and this is the first war we won from khan batia, so you understand, that is, well, if we want to talk about victory, then we we have to talk about it now, but about the fact that , in principle, this conflict, this war is no longer at such a fever pitch as it was at the beginning, it will continue for many years, it will continue for many more years, it is true, they can to be some kind of permanent peace agreements there, but this does not mean that the war will end. it will continue for many years to come, we will have to learn to live under war conditions now, and in this case, i understand what you want to tell me, i have to say there that this is so, i want you to give a kick, i want , i don't want, i don't want to give a damn, and i don't want to say that we should ban all the restaurants there or something else or something else, because we will continue to live like this, it does not mean that in the life of our person there, which
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is now, for example, in the rear. there should not be holidays and there should not be any joy , there should be joy, the only thing is that again, it is definitely unfair that there are some at the front, here others, can they be replaced now , it is very problematic, they can be replaced now, yes over this should be worked on, i am for it mobilization, i am against the fact that let's say that we have cats there who were born for war, they will fight, here cats are not born for war, they will not fight, everyone must fight, everyone must actually go through everything . but that doesn't mean those who are here now shouldn't have fun, they should too. yes, i understand that again, freshly mobilized , like the military, there will be no, but they still have to go through it to know what the others are paying for, which which, uh, yes, because again, there are units, those , which are still on who pull more work for themselves, in any unit, there are those who pull less work, those who are not born for war pull less work, they must be there at the front
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to learn to be grateful to those who pull more. work, yes, otherwise, if not everyone goes through the mobilization, this awareness will not exist, therefore everyone must go through, the mobilization must be mass, they want it, they don’t want it, everyone, the only thing i would make an exception for the younger generation, i am against it , to mobilize young people, they still have very high losses at the front, mortality we have a very large, ah, children, in principle, i call 80-year-olds children, yes, although one of my units came to my unit there with... fights better than anyone, yes, but i am his commander and i take great care of him, and i i am simply forced to always think about the fact that he is the smallest among us, yes, although he is such a man that many men can simply look up to him, yes, but i am against such people to mobilize, for example, such people after all, from of some age, from 25, for example, and especially the older, slightly older generation, which is, in principle, guilty of this war
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