a military expert, an employee of the security service of ukraine, the fourth, was in touch with us for 15 years, now we will go from war to semi-war, because we will still remember ukraine and europe, all these countries in one way or another and russia is waging a direct or indirect hot or cold war. bohdan ferens, expert internationalist, candidate of political sciences is in touch with us, good health, mr. bohdan, thank you for finding us. well , look, i have a few naive questions for you, eh, look, ukraine is losing financial support from the united states and the european union, writes the financial times. how much is true, well, how much in general , because we just discussed the option that on the left bank of the dnieper, we interviewed ukrainian soldiers, they will say. i

even quote about suicide and extravagance, right there, it means that ft writes what it means, that is financial support, i have been watching it for about a month, maybe a month and a half, like this, you know, well, i would say such an explosion or such a small explosion, like that information, how much truth is there, how much russia is there, i would ask the question like this, well, you know , on the one hand, really, let's say, the russians, they don't sit like that, with folded hands, that is, they really work, they try to spread their, let's say , yes, communication narratives, and they do it sometimes in a veiled way, but on the other hand , it is not worth it either, in some places, we can also have the impression that, say, if some article is published there or in the economist or in some other respectable publication. e newspaper or

media, which we may not like, indeed, the russians may be involved right away, that is, there are indeed certain challenges, it is true, we are observing this in the context of financial support, first of all, this is a decision that they cannot yet make in the united states of america, this is also reflected in moods, it is reflected in us, first of all, in ukraine , it is reflected in... the interest of the press, because they are starting to write about it, to find out why it is happening, and actually we also hoped that within the framework of the meeting of the european thanks to our european partners will approve the use of the ukraine facility for 50 billion euros, that is, it is a tool that we really need, but so far this decision is also delayed in time, so to speak of that there is no question of concerns about financing there. i would not

, that is, the challenges are there, they are felt , because we need financial, economic, military support already now, even yesterday, this is the first, second, that there are really realities that we have to work with, where we can influence, where we cannot influence, hope that nevertheless, the same republicans and democrats will agree on something, and i would like these agreements, some kind of balance, which they should find between themselves as soon as possible. it happened, that’s why, in fact, there are challenges regarding financing, they are and they will be, the further the war continues, sometimes intensifying even more, so to speak, in its active phases, but on the other hand, regarding the europeans, as a minimum of partners, i hope , that after the new year there will be tools and mechanisms to make this ukraine facility plan work, we already have some countries they promised help there at the beginning. next

year 2024, it's also at least norway, yes, our other partners, and yet i have a feeling that maybe, if not before christmas, then after the new year holidays in the united states of america, they will find some kind of compromise that would satisfy these needs, because without it, unfortunately, there is really a threat that these stretching in the time of decision-making, they can negatively affect the context. our capabilities, in particular in resisting russian aggression, this is understood in the kremlin, they are doing everything to ensure that what they can, yes, what they can influence, so that the decisions are at least not accelerated, our task is to do the opposite, another question, the next day the negotiations on the european union and accession will begin to ukraine, and a lot of questions arise here, the first of which was the deputy minister of agriculture today. or the future deputy,

i don't even know if he has already been appointed, kolodzejchak, said that a 20-year moratorium on the supply of ukrainian agro... products to poland was needed, well, that was what was needed to wait, it seems to me, this is not news , well, as far as i am concerned, this is not news, but because ukraine is really a very serious, strong agricultural country, and certainly no farmers in europe will like it, tru, labor is cheaper in ukraine, hence potatoes and sugar and bread is cheaper, and because of this, they are competitive and because of... this way they win over european farmers, and what do you think, the ukrainian authorities understand this, and is it possible to find a way out of this, this situation , because the germans can say the same later,

hungarians can say, slovaks will say, in short, we don't need your agricultural products, sell where you want, and where you want, it's far away, it's expensive. also latin america, africa, in africa it is not known whether there is money to buy, well, in short, there is a problem. there are problems, but you know, we are not the first to go through these problems. poland, by the way, is also an agrarian country, partly, yes, and with its agriculture, it faced similar opposition from french farmers, belgian farmers, when it entered the european union, and i will say more, poland , one of the few countries that... let 's say that, joined in the 2000s, when there was a big enlargement, it got the maximum benefits from that membership, from those programs that were financed at the expense of the budget and subsidies of the european union, so that their agriculture, farming, especially

medium-sized farming, is small, so that it develops, so they really feel this competition, that's right, this competition is... always present inside the european union, but there are also certain balancing mechanisms, so to speak, within the european community, protectionism as well, especially agriculture, if it concerns the internal market of the european union, for example, in the context of even the same latin american countries, for which the european market was also a priority, and which are quite difficult to enter agricultural producers on... mechanisms that allow us to gradually, so to speak, enter this market, this is the first, second, over time, it should balance, and

when, hopefully, ukraine will become a full-fledged a member of the european union, and here , perhaps, our partners have more questions not only about our products and sales, that is, competition, but also about dota. from the budget of the european union, because according to the calculations for today, that is, the lion's share of the budget, which focuses on supporting, for example, the agricultural, there farms of the european union for the countries that join, the lion's share we have to take away in the future, and this too they are afraid, some of our partners there, and here we have to work with various political... factions and forces, so that it does not happen that the government has not yet been formed, let's say so, yes, let's just say, not approved, perhaps there are already such statements about a 10-20-year moratorium on so that we cannot to sell agricultural products, there are

national interests, they are present in every country, this is normal, but there are also those mechanisms, tools, and the legal field of the european union, the quota is certain, which to... still helps to accept new members and do so , so that with a certain interval, in a certain period of time, the balance was nevertheless found, and we took advantage of the opportunity to be present on the market. is there enough subsidy in the european union? well, you say, it's really true, i can only confirm that during the accession of poland, there was a long trade and there were a lot of poles. and they bargained for themselves, and in poland 32 million, now in ukraine about 32 million, then there were 502, but it was there for 30 or so years, it will be enough for ukraine to spend

billions or tens of billions of euros on agriculture for brussels once again ? you know, i would say yes, probably yes, probably... well, it would be enough, because, well , there is money, and it will be in the european community, the question is that the partners are now really figuring it out among themselves, but in what way are we ready, by the way, for such an expansion. which we are talking about, it is not only about ukraine, it is moldova, yes, it is a much smaller country, so to speak, it is not, it is not such a challenge in the context of geography, in the context of even war, population, agricultural segment, but at the same time it is also a certain, certain, shall we say, a challenge for the european union and in the context of the balkans, some balkan countries that are still not members of the european union, therefore... here, depending on how the european union will change internally, to find new

tools so as not to there was such a blocking, which we observe from time to time, so that it is not only about, for example, one's own interests, there are national ones, yes, and the aggravation of this struggle to the maximum, which, as this aggravation can lead to disorganization within the european community, and this is always the dream of russia, i i will say so, because they always dream that the european union... it would be disorganized and everyone would only play their own game, but not think about something common, here it is necessary to think about a certain common policy, a common space, because for european partners also our market, it is potentially a promising market, how many polish goods are on our market, how many italian goods, how many french goods, there are quite a lot of them in ukraine as well, so here it is precisely necessary to find this win-win situation, yes, when from trade from the fact that there is a certain expansion of scaling, certain challenges are overcome at

the first intervals, nevertheless , the situation becomes more profitable for everyone in the context of economic development, and political integration, and directly the security space. listen, one more question, maybe even the last one, the ministry of foreign affairs of hungary said today that it will veto bulgaria's entry into the schengen area. until it cancels the tax on gas transit of russian gazprom through its territory, that is, as i understand it, some part goes through bulgaria, from the south, there to the north to hungary, the bulgarians impose some kind of tax on it, so it becomes more expensive for hungary, and now hungary says, if you want to enter schengen, we will not let you in unless you remove this duty or what is it called there, how much at all. europeans will tolerate mr. orban for a long time, well, okay, ukraine

, it is not a member of the eu and not a member of nato at all, well, god bless her, you can already make fun of her a little there, well, bulgaria has been a member of nato and a member of the european union for a long time, and nothing, and here it is again the same story, it does not affect ukraine anymore, but the bulgarian, you know, by the way, mr. tusk, when he arrived for the first time in the status, so to speak, of the prime minister. countries at the meeting of the european council , journalists asked him, if you say, he blocks orban here, he says: you know, no matter how much you like him there, orban is a very pragmatic politician, he said it, and it is to me somehow it resonated, also, because orbán is only a part of those politicians who now also come to those or in other countries to power, the same prime minister of slovakia, this, although they are ideologically from different... like political camps, but the model of the european autocrat, it is now also gaining

some popularity within the european union, so here is a very pragmatic story, here the bulgarians impose customs duties on what, yes, the hungarians want it to be cheaper, they say , okay, we have a tool, so to speak, of bargaining and pressure, we will use it now, you want to schengen, but it depends on the decision, by the way, it depends on us solution , so let's bargain, let's agree, that is, here is just a dream, yes, a dream, putin's dream, yes, i understand, it is, this , here is what i told you about sometimes, yes, this is what they forget, around what the european community was built, it is not only about interests, everyone has them, they need to be balanced, there are richer, there are poorer, but the common european space, this is the project, this is the story, which is primarily about values, and here it is important that there was more really progressive leaders who focus on the constructive, who focus only on

themselves and drag the dust only within the framework of their selfish interests, here is bohdan ferens, expert, international candidate of political sciences, thank you, thank you very much, and as i promised, now to the middle east, and there we are met by david handelman, an israeli military expert , we 'll see him now, i'll switch to russian, because he doesn't understand ukrainian and can't... answer, well, there's nothing wrong with that, we'll switch to russian. hello, mr. david handelman, good afternoon, i understand ukrainian, but you can answer in russian. oh, if you understand, then i won't be fined, that's very nice, good news. you can explain the killing of these three people who escaped from captivity and stood with white flags and said: "we are yours, and they

were killed by israeli soldiers, just yesterday we spoke with your colleague from israel." he also explained it, but not so much that people understood what the problem was, i don't believe that the israeli troops will just shoot at people with white, with white flags, the whole problem, что с одни parties, of course, according to the instructions, they should not have opened fire, but on the other hand, instructions, instructions , life, life, specifically in this area in sajai, where this incident occurred, hostilities have been going on for many days, the civilian population is there now not much, and many of those who are trying to jump, let's say, under the guise of civilians, are actually retired militants who are trying to lure the army into an ambush and so on, that is, the specific soldiers who opened fire had a suspicion that this is a problem precisely in the fact that they

saw them very well, they even went without shirts to show that they were not wearing some kind of shahid's belt. or something like that, they did not carry a white flag, but the soldier suspected that this was another trap, another ambush, opened fire, shouted terrorists, then after that the rest of the soldiers were already there too, which is called in the mental setting, that these are terrorists, then even , when one hostage, who was still alive but was wounded, managed to run into the building, then they shouted to him, get out, he came out, he was already shot directly there, it is clear that this was a direct violation. those instructions under combat stress, when it turned out more than once or twice that peaceful, indeed not peaceful, and we once again see that instructions are not written for nothing, instructions are written in blood, in this case they killed their hostages, because they thought that they can't just go on in this kind of peace here, and this practice is normal for hamas,

let's say it's a normal practice, that they issue what seems like peace. people, they can go with a white flag, trusting israelis, israeli soldiers say, oh, okay, this , they surrender, and they kill them, that is , it is normal for hamas to behave like this, usually it is used in the form that, for example, such militants are a subspecies of peaceful ones, they conduct reconnaissance, or they lure an ambush behind them, sometimes it happens... suicide bombers and so on, that is , there have already been several cases of the use of the white flag, shouting in hebrew, everything else and the use of israeli military uniforms, that's all already happened, in principle, all possible military tricks were used, that is, the grounds yes we thought about it, but in any case it is clear that there was a violation of the instructions and because of this violation such a tragedy occurred, that is

, it is necessary to emphasize once again that despite all the combat stress and despite the fact that the enemy uses various... tricks think again and again, but the problem is that on the battlefield of each individual soldier, every specific second, it is not always possible to make the right decision, in this case , the wrong decision led to such a tragedy. now to america, cnn told us that 130 us officials called on president biden to support, to support the end of the war. and i imagined, well, i imagined what biden said: yes, i will call netanyahu. biden called netanyahu and said: the war must be stopped. netanyahu said: "okay, i'm stopping the war. what if we now fulfill the request for

hamas people in europe, in britain, in america, these students, these universities." who say it should be stopped, well, let's imagine the picture: they stopped military operations, the israelis, what, what are the consequences, what, what do your israeli experts say, what will happen tomorrow, the day after tomorrow, in a year, in 5, in 10 years, if today we fulfill the request to stop the war, it is simply necessary to say, all these appeals, to stop the war, this is still at the level of appeals, it is not realistic. it is clear that if the war is stopped now , it will be a victory for hamas, because israel's declared goal is the overthrow of hamas's power in gaza and the destruction of its military capabilities,

so if the war is stopped now, it is clear that israel has not achieved its goals and, accordingly, hamas has won , so now in israel, at least until now, no one is going to go to it, and with the hostages, what to do after these three people are killed? well, i have an impression, i watch israeli russian-language channel nine, and if i didn't see it, they used to say very often: hostages, hostages, hostages, it's important, now i hear less, i hear more, let's move on, move on, attack gas, wins, fill with water, metro, this is a famous dungeon, what will they say? what is the ratio of people, we have already shown footage of hostages, in israel people go to free them hostages, but it is necessary to either release them, or

war, or is it possible to do this at the same time with the hostages and defeat hamas. this is the problem that these two goals, the liberation of the hostages, the victory over hamas, these goals contradict each other and interfere with the achievement of the other, but at least temporarily we have already seen it once. a partial agreement on the hostages, more than a hundred were released, primarily women and children, but at least they had to pay for this with a week-long cease -fire, which, of course, is not very useful in military terms to give the enemy a break, the opportunity to reorganize, regroup, etc., now further probing of further groups of hostages is being conducted through qatar and egypt, but at least while hamas resists and demands a complete cessation in return.

please clarify, that is, the condition of hamas is to end the full war, that is, israeli troops withdraw from gaza, gaza remains under the leadership of hamas, the people in gaza remain where they remain, and... and that's the end of the war, this, this, this , what hamas wants in negotiations with qatar. yes, how at least, the rumor is only the end of the war, there are no specific details about the withdrawal of troops and so on, they demand the cessation of hostilities, that is , at least, as it was last time, only in a longer version, but for now, since the israeli government это не сообщано, продуляются контакты, иззондирование и...

and what theoretically can netanyahu and the israeli government do, that he can leave as a concession, as an opportunity, or simply freeze, or what cards are in his hands netanyahu? when he says that israel, i am a quote, will have to deal with iran, i do not believe, although i am not sitting in israel, i am watching from

ukraine, i do not believe that iran is so bold that it will start a war, a proxy can be, but i don't want a war, i don't, iran has never fought, the last time it was attacked by iraq, not it attacked iraq, that is, iran always shouts. but it seems to me that he is afraid to fight, what do you say? says that we will have to deal with iran, it is far from a fact that he means that iran will attack first, let's say it is interesting, that is, if tomorrow or the day after tomorrow it turns out that iran already has nuclear weapons. then exclude any attack by israel on plants that produce uranium or plutonium or means

of delivery, rockets. it can be excluded from your point of view, the plan to attack iranian nuclear facilities has existed for a long time and is constantly being revised, but now, in principle, if you take into account how many resources are now going to the war in gaza, now, in addition to opening another direct front of confrontation with iran, this is also a big question in in terms of resource allocation, but at least in terms of preparation the air force and other plans to attack iran constantly. days ago, i heard somewhere that they do not rule out a strike it is also a matter of several weeks, i do not know, 10 nuclear weapons, because hezbollah. has

a much greater military potential compared to hamas, it is stronger, and therefore it is not excluded that israel will have to use some unconventional, well, that is , a nuclear strike on lebanon, how far can we think that this is true? the use of nuclear weapons is out of the question, war with...

such a grouping on the border is impossible, because it is never possible to know that it will throw it out tomorrow or the day after tomorrow, now it’s just that the main resources are drawn on gas, plus the political pressure of the united states, who do not want to open a second front now, so while we see only daily incidents on the northern border, this is still sub-threshold activity, a small war, and if it is possible to extend the war in gaza to the end, then how, if not during this war, then after it, the number one question is really.

hezbollah simply move back to iran, or there is a huge number of people with them to do with those gaysbolists, you don't need to move anywhere, i mean that specifically from the southern southern river there were no militants, there was no military infrastructure, ugh, thank you very much david handelman, an israeli military expert was in touch with us and we just spoke as you yourself understand about israel, well, it is quite an interesting picture that a repetition of the war is possible, first israel will deal with hamas in the south, then in the north with hezbollah, it is not known which poses a greater danger, well, a potentially greater danger consists of hezbollah, but it has not attacked yet, well, it has attacked, but so very limited, on israel, and hamas precisely, which is less dangerous, that is, it simply has fewer weapons,

fewer. and so on, he just carried out this attack, but we will monitor the situation and we will also monitor the plot that you will now watch, it is a plot about the two-day visit of the president of ukraine to washington, this is a very difficult visit, what happened there, meetings in congresses, meetings with the president, so far the issuance to us has slowed down more than 60 billion loan, is it not a loan , is it help, i don't know, i haven't figured it out yet, is it help in the form of a loan, a grant, and so on and so forth, and then advertising, and then we'll come back and talk to the irish eidman, a russian sociologist, political expert, publicist, who is, like all decent people, outside the russian federation, a short film, then an advertisement. fatigue is growing, doubts are growing, the west is hesitating to support ukraine after its...