and this point is different for serbia, let's say, it is the normalization of relations with kosovo. ugh. in principle, serbia conducted negotiations with the european union quite well. she was one of the leaders of european integration when it comes to economic legislation. but then the europeans said: "listen, what about the normalization of relations with kosovo?" and the leadership of serbia replied: "listen, let's finish our negotiations, then we will deal with this point." to which he said in brussels: "listen, what's the point?". if you do not resolve this issue point, what is the point of spending taxpayers' money on conspiracy negotiations, this is a serious job of painstaking, so let 's get to the situation with kosovo to some extent, and then we will continue the negotiations, we will not close chapter by chapter, we see how it is doing great, and serbia stopped, not because it negotiated poorly, but because it stopped because the serbian leadership cannot recognize the sovereignty of kosovo, no. of these relevant moods in

society, and the language is there, excuse me, i immediately i will ask about the recognition of the sovereignty of kosovo or normalization, because normalization is also a very intoxicating concept, well , i think that normalization also implies that serbia must agree to the fact that kosovo can join international organizations, this and that, that and that, here too there can be a whole story, but serbia says that it will never agree to the fact that kosovo will become a member of the united nations, well, this is not for serbia to decide, here is russia and china, which can block from kosovo, even if... serbia will agree with this, but the members of the european union the union may have another issue. so let's imagine that you don't recognize kosovo, well , you normalize relations with it, but you don't recognize it as a state, and we also see european families in kosovo. ugh. that is, that this means that your acceptance into the european union automatically blocks the european integration of kosovo, this cannot be the case. we won't let you take that chance. that is, we can welcome you.

only together, and in order for this to be the case, we must resolve the issue of recognition of kosovo, and if not, then we must receive from you a guarantee that you will not block the acceptance of kosovo if we accept you to kosovo, and these are all issues that are completely unresolved, uh, and we understand that no guarantees that serbia wanted to give to the european union, they will not work either, because serbia already had the guarantees of the president of cyprus, which was accepted when cyprus was accepted. to the european union promised that cyprus would implement the so-called anna plan, which provided for referendums on reunification on the greek and turkish parts of the island, and when cyprus was accepted into the european union, he fulfilled this promise, only the president has already changed, and the president who was elected was in favor of the fact that, following this referendum, the greek paliotes voted against the merger of ostra, and they... supported this

new president, they supported that they should vote against, on the turkish side they voted for the union , which is now controlled by the self -proclaimed turkish republic of northern cyprus , was voted against on the greek side, and the european union naturally looked like it was spit on, and i don't think that european politicians have the desire to repeat it even once with something it's been a long time, so i have a big question here too, we always focus on the negotiations on... those laws that we should or shouldn't pass, i think that we will pass all the laws that are needed for european integration , this was proven in the visa-free experience, how much our legislators did not vouch for certain laws that directly attacked their chastity, they accepted everything anyway, did not go anywhere, and now they will not go anywhere either, but there are issues that we cannot change ourselves, i mean the issue of territorial integrity, uh, if negotiations will end, at this point ukraine will not fully control the whole. your

border can there be a question? ugh. and by the way, the president of moldova has a sanda. you know, she already talked about two-stage integration. but it is not clear to me what it is about from the point of view of reality. she says that the territory of moldova controlled by the legitimate government in chisinau should be integrated first. and already at the second stage to integrate transnistria and that the integration of moldova into the european union will be a signpost for transnistrians, who will see how good it is, what are the advantages of it. perhaps for the transnistrians this will be a signpost, i think that even many of the transnistrians who are still there, because the number of people there is constantly decreasing, as you know, on the territory of the self-proclaimed transnistrian moldovan republic, they will simply move to moldovans, and some even not to moldova, but to other countries of the european union, they will already be citizens of the european union, why should they live in this teraspol or in bendery, if they are young people, you know, who are thinking about some perspective, they moved to russia all the time with russian passports, well, if possible...

not to russia, but relatively speaking, to poland or to great britain, well, not to great britain, i apologize, to ireland, let's say, where en masse at one time, citizens of the baltic countries moved, well, these people will also move, but... how can they move together with the territory, when the territory is controlled by the russian army? it's not a question of integration, it's a question of strength, and the same applies to our territories, but on the other hand, if the european union says: you you know, no, we can't leave anything , neither for you, nor for moldovan georgia, until you restore your territorial integrity, so that means that the key to this situation, i would say, is in the hands of putin, not brussels, yes , and that's why i think we need to make... non-standard solutions , it's important, non-standard solutions, and what they will be, i don't know, but this is a completely unusual integration process, which the european union has never faced, and for the western balkans, and for ukraine, and for

georgia, and for moldova, on the other hand, ot imagine, when we talk about georgia, if georgia is admitted to the european union. of the european union, for the first time in its history, the european union will also have an enclave, ugh, which will be effectively isolated from other european union member states, this has never happened, well, there are islands, well, yes, but this is a mainland situation, a state that does not fully control its territory , which has an occupied territory, and at the same time is disconnected from the rest of the european union, completely, well, although... fortunately, it has at least a border with one nato member country, but another geopolitical the situation in armenia, which is located between a nato country, turkey and georgia, which can also become a nato country, is itself a member of the csto. and in the eurasian economic union. how will it

all work? you see, these are trade routes, we forget all the time. they cannot be like that, now there is a road to armenia through georgia, a trade route. from russia, if georgia becomes a member of the european union, this road will no longer be in this form, and if we imagine ukraine, georgia became a member of the european union, and against russia they continue sanctions, that is why the georgian border for russia is being closed, how to close all other borders now. it is unclear. the next question, which is also very important, is this question. all these unsettled territorial problems that i spoke about. the next issue is the issue of serbia and kosovo. kosovo is still not recognized as a prominent part of the member states of the european union. and at the same time, the european union demands from

serbia the normalization of relations with kosovo. maybe it is necessary to start at least with the legitimization of the status of kosovo with some clear decision? you have the collective for the collective for yes to the european union. do we all recognize kosovo, are we going to accept it into the european union or not? then imagine the european union, if it will finally look like a perfect structure after all these integration processes. albanians, yes, live in three countries of the bucket, four, albania, serbia's border with kosovo, kosovo, and the north. macedonia is four different countries, but the people essentially unite in one space. hungarians actually reunited in one political space. ukraine, hungary, slovakia and romania. between hungarian communities no longer exist, by the way, this is what orban said earlier when he spoke about

the european integration of ukraine, that this will be the end of trianon. all hungarians will live in the same space. on the one hand, this is quite an interesting point, on the other hand, it is you. for all these states, because you understand that the hungarians who will be in one european space, the center of this european space will be for all hungarians not ukraine, not kyiv and not bratislava, but budapest, with all the results, also with the distribution of these hungarian passports known to everyone, romanians, two romanian states will be in the european union, romanians who live in ukraine and who live in other countries of the european union, this unites the european peoples, but in reality. there are also new challenges for the serbs who live in serbia, in bosnia and herzegovina, and have their own identity there, in kosovo, by the way, i forgot that another story, if serbia becomes a member of the european union, will be the fact that serbia has in fact, hungarian autonomy, a voivodeship in which hungarians play

the main role, and also this voivodeship, which has always focused on belgrade, will start focusing on budapest, because the influence of the hungarians is very large, i can list a lot of it for you. these consequences, for which no one is ready now, and this is outside of the war, so to speak, it is outside of the war, but we are talking about... problems that will need to be solved, yes, solutions where we will look for them in the context of the entire european union. i want to sum up this topic, for sure, to mention the experience of some countries that were forced to change even their own name just to to become a member of the european yes, that is, sometimes the requirements from actual members of the european union to a potential member can be more than controversial, that's me being very diplomatic. to say, i can't imagine, or rather, i can imagine, but the battles will be fierce when

we touch on the topic, i don't know, for example, national memory and our policy regarding it, we recently had a concept of national memory, we recently began to unearth, sorry, in the archives all these terrible things that happened to us with our people, and this is all a fresh wound, into which someone can stick his finger now, because he has his own vision, obviously without the agreement of the pdp. politics of historical memory with neighboring states, we will not be able to do anything, it's true, because neighboring states can also change the government, well, that's how it looks, i remember from my own experience, you mentioned north macedonia , i remember flying out of skopje airport when the flag flew there for the last time, the first flag of the independent republic of macedonia, which was then... changed at the request of greece, because it the first demand was to change the national

symbol, to abandon the flag that was similar to the flag of alexander the great, and from everything connected with this symbol, and the first thing macedonia did, back in the 90s, was to change its national symbol , then all these disputes about the name started, i... to say that macedonia is still incredibly lucky, just no, you have no idea how it all happened, it's just, you know, a historical window, we need to get in too sometime in such a historical window with all these problems, because macedonia just had a left-wing government in greece, ugh, and this left-wing government of such and such a left-wing government, it is almost a left-radical government, may never be in greece again, and this government was not so burdened with problems historically. character as the governments of conservatives and socialists, because you

, the two leading political forces of greece, were against the very word macedonia, the leader of the greek socialists, andres papandreou, the former prime minister of ukraine, renamed the province centered in thessaloniki to macedonia, created the palace of macedonia there, spoke , so he shouted that there would be no macedonia, the greek leader did the same. conservatives, konstantinas mitsotakis, i remember how i came to greece, to macedonia, to thessaloniki, and there people told me, my god, what a horror, we are, we are in such danger, macedonia is right next to them, they believed, that this small country can attack them, the country of the european union, nato, it was, that is, they were afraid not of any clashes with turkey, a really great power, but of the small former yugoslav republic, it was the russians in relation to ukrainians, so ... and at this moment this left-socialist government of greece is such, i would say,

not even socialists, it is the ultra-left government of greece, you have to call a spade a spade, alexis tsipras, who has already finished his career, he said, well, we can agree on north macedonia, for all other greek politicians there could not be any macedonia, they said macedonians should be called the republic of skopje, somehow, so that the word macedonia is not macedonia, only. and then suddenly and you know what happened in the same macedonia, the macedonian national parties themselves shouted that what do you think, this is a humiliation, and it so happened that macedonia at that time was governed by the social democratic union, which was essentially a post-communist formation, we would say from the point of view of our and the most serious patriots , that they are unprincipled post-communists, ugh, and now the unprincipled post-communists have agreed with the principled left radicals that macedonia can be northern, that i... consider insults, well, it is true that this territory is northern, well, it is northern macedonia, and that macedonia , which in

greece, this is macedonia for sure, we have no doubt that macedonia is there, king philip is buried there under the salt pans, i was at his grave, i know for sure that king philip was the king of macedonia, i learned this at school, i i mean the father of alexander the great, and they were able to find this compromise, it's a miracle , but now with... with bulgaria, the miracle didn't happen, you know, huh, because there is no such government in bulgaria that could resign from bulgarian politics of national memory, there are simply no such political forces there political forces. are divided from more or less those who are prepared to recognize the fact that there is no macedonian people, no macedonian language, and this is also some kind of fairy tale, you see, this is by the way, as is often the case with us poles, bulgaria was the first country to recognize the independence of the republic macedonia, first, they haven't had time to vote yet, bolgarovska, we recognize you

because you are ours, because we are one nation, no, you are not one nation, one nation and we recognize you. state, just admit that you are the second bulgarian state, and we will be with you just best friends, best friends, and the macedonians refused it, and it's huge, and again, i was once in sofia, and the bulgarians tell me, it's like this, i'll tell you a joke, this joke can only be understood by a bulgarian or a macedonian, you understand , a bulgarian tells me this anecdote, as a person who should understand how ridiculous it all is, and he tells me: that a macedonian comes from north macedonia to take an exam for bulgarian citizenship, well, bulgaria of the european union, and that is why many macedonians want to have, and this not a problem because bulgarians they recognize them as bulgarians, they only know the exam , they don't have to give a language exam in fact, because they are almost almost the same languages, they are very similar, well, that's why i, a macedonian, would say

that it's not very, but it's similar in nature, and the exam they take it out of the blue, because this is how we took the ukrainian language exam with you, so in belarus, no, not even true, not even in belarus, i don't know, in the lviv region, uh, roughly like this , and they ask them, and the king is like that, and the king is like that, and the bulgarian king, well, he means everything is answered as per the textbook, and then this bulgarian tells me, he comes out and says haha, how i deceived them all, these are macedonian kings and the macedonian state after all, do you see what macedonians are like? and i think, oh my god, you know how deep it went, it went into folklore, and it's a whole, uh, a whole story, and one, i studied with a guy who was macedonian from bulgaria, i thought so, that he was a macedonian, he denied it, he was a compatriot of the famous vanga, this, how do you

say it, seer, prophesied that... what we might have with the poles, and i always i have been explaining to my polish friends for years that, well , look, all your historical problems, with memory, are related to the western lands, but you understand when you start talking to a person from kharkiv, from mykola. from odesa, he does not understand what we are talking about at all, for him this is the same history of polish-ukrainian relations as ukrainian-british or ukrainian -french relations, this is such a great state, these are relevant things for all of you from szczecin to ljubljana, because you scattered throughout the territory of their country, which was formed after of the second world war, here the country is regional, people in lviv, lutsk

, ternopil, these are all living, real memories, closeness, and so on, although once again generations of people were growing up who did not even speak polish in ternopil, in frankivsk, this is also true, but the people in kharkiv, well, they will even be surprised that there were conflicts with the poles, they live next to russia, someone there lives next to romania, just like in odesa, and there it is different absolutely context and it is very difficult to explain that by and large it is not nationwide co... some problems, but problems with regional memory, because in poland, this is how the fate of this state turned out, regional memory is completely different than in ukraine, because poland was relocated, a large number of poles who lived in lviv it turned out to be in wroclaw, ugh, and so on, it 's a lot to tell, as it was with us, but none the less, well, precisely because we

remain one way or another in the neighborhood purely territorially with russian. federation, we follow the hands and the rhetoric, fortunately, although the russian federation can no longer correct our historical memory, it did it much more successfully than all the poles, hungarians, romanians and bulgarians combined for 300 years, well, what we have become subjectivized in this sense, at least from them, is actually great, but this is a decision of the european council of a historical nature, which happened, happened on the same day as putin's direct line. and nothing new was heard there in principle, as far as i'm concerned, that there is de-nozification, demilitarization, recognition of territorial realities, i can already say that take exams, nothing is said. no matter how the war ended. okay, but don't you think that the general context of this direct line was something different? that is? well, i don't know what you

think about those messages, i don't know how authentic they are that they put out, they always do that, it's a demonstration of democracy, they write them and put them on the screen. and what do you think about the student from st. petersburg who used technology and appeared in the image of putin, well, if, hinting at the fact that there are doppelgangers and so on, all these legends uncle is joking, well, he likes such things, and this is not something new, well, what is new is artificial intelligence, and they show that they are a modern country, they start, you see, they involve us in a ridiculous dialogue, discussing all these tricks , you know how it is, you don't have to look at it at all, that it's like some , you know, a palmist, he comes out there, something shines , something rings, there are some bengal lights, at this time he will steal from you. this, this is a russian tactic, you see, so i wouldn’t pay attention to it at all, they are up to something they write, they invent something, and we create it, and

after that oleksiy aristovych tells what good people they are, how backward we are, the illusion of democracy in russia, as if democracy is when you are shown an unpleasant inscription, no, democracy is when you have a competitor in the elections is real, uh, and this is a huge difference from ukraine, from... russia, i would say even ukraine, and the situation in which we want to get into the european situation, into the european context, you understand that we are just going to another, it's us like on a bicycle, and we are kept, in fact, kept so that we do not go anywhere, but in fact , you understand, this, if we speak realistically, is an ordinary european country, it has always been just an ordinary european country, nothing... no special differences from any other it has a neighboring country, poland or hungary, well, there was none, well, read the history there in the middle ages, how did these hungarian kings

participate in the competition for some princely thrones here in the ukrainian lands, did our princes appeal to the polish kings, this life was normal, then the year 1654 passed, in fact it is the blackest date in the history of the ukrainian people, there is no need to invent that it was some kind of huge scandal, it was a serious political mistake. bohdan khmelnytskyi, the number one mistake that was made in general, the number one major grant mistake in the history of ukraine, from 1654 to november 1917, we simply went to asia, because what we joined with smakovkas, bukovkas, was asia, asia, asian despotism , not even china with india, the asian dumb despotism that there they played in... such a europe after peter the first purely from the point of view of the cover, but remained an asian despotism, in november 1017 we went in the other direction, the ukrainian people's republic,

the ukrainian autocephalous orthodox church , a real possibility to create a state, we were stopped and held, yes just like that, from 1920 to august 1991, we started going again. from the place where we were stopped, and now we have reached the european union, conditionally speaking, to candidacy, due to independence, due to the legalization of ukrainian of the greek catholic church, through the creation of the uoc kp, through tomos, through the association agreement, now the candidacy of a member of the european union, and now we have to leave, and russia is holding us with this scarecrow. imperial just holding with the help of his army so that we don't get there and everything that's going on and putin talks about it on his direct line, uh, we have to keep them so that they don't

get there, they have to be here, we we have to drag them back to asia, where bohdan khmelnytskyi sent them, and a little bit about civilizations, really without exaggeration trends, i promised you to mention about... anti-semitism, xenophobia, all this broke out in different countries, i hope that it was not bodal khmelnytsky who made you up, no, not him, they just remembered our conversation with myroslav chakh, but less so, we see , that different things are breaking out in different countries, yes, but in ukraine , many say, even though the war is going on in them, they just don’t care, that’s why they don’t reflect on the events in the middle east, in ukraine, well, some crazy trends in this direction . i personally do not observe, moreover, there is a survey from kmisu, and this is a study shows that ukraine is one of the most pro-israel, oh, something you don't

like about this topic, everything is fine, i don't know. ukraine is one of the most pro-israeli countries in the world in principle, supports israel in the struggle for existence without exaggeration, more than 60% of the surveyed respondents, this is at a time when we see how movements of different plans everywhere in europe hold pro-palestinian rallies there and so on and so forth, pro-khamas, let's still distinguish between sympathy, shouting free palestine, then these are pro-palestinian rallies, it's already a problem that they... number one, i think that any people should support the right of the palestinian people there, to their own statehood and so forth, only when the right to their own statehood is not accompanied by the destruction of women and children, uh, and voting for those who destroy those by voting for and readiness, you know this beautiful story with this guy with a russian, who had israeli russian passports, who

was released due to personal intervention. putin, and you know that this guy escaped from the captivity of hamas, ugh, and these poor, unfortunate civilians residents of gaza, who are so protected by the participants of the pro-khamas demonstrations, gave him back, they didn't hide him, they gave him to the terrorists, knowing full well that probably with great joy, that's all you need to know about the civilian population and their attitude, but it is like this. let's stop at that because i'm absolutely not going to say that civilian casualties or anything positive. we understand very well that hamas was just counting, this idea was: the more civilians are hit during the israeli response, the less chance there will be of an arab israeli reconciliation, which of course hamas, iran and russia want. so these people are just cannon fodder for hamas. why is it not so in our country, as in many western countries,

by the way, not in arab. you see that the arab government is very restrained, very restrained, but i would say that the crown prince of saudi arabia reacts to events much more cautiously than the prime minister of spain, well, this is something that is not quite, not quite usual. first of all, we do not have the influence of this great middle eastern migration, which also determines. the political landscape in many countries of europe, and a large part of the people who come to the demonstrations are migrants from the countries of the middle east, who came from dictatorships, from tyrannical countries, but absolutely do not want to adapt to democracy in the countries in which they lived, to democratic norms, this is a huge problem with this migration, this is what the far right spoke about, unfortunately, and now they are triumphing against the background of these demonstrations, this is the second point, which is also important.

carriers of pro-khamas pro-terrorists movements in europe very often include representatives of left-wing political organizations. these are the same people who supported the aggression of the soviet union against czechoslovakia, who supported the killing of demonstrators in hungary, these people have always been on the side of evil, under red flags, it’s just that these are their grandchildren, they too have not gone anywhere, they just now got the opportunity to realize this one hatred also because of these anti-semitic slogans, which were also part of this trend. let's not forget that the great intellectuals of the west were quite often members of the french or italian or any other communist parties justified evil, and these are the symbols of evil, such a great thinker as sartre, all our favorite children's writers there, such as gianni radari or italo calvina, they were communists, justified evil, and there was also... something else

, who were maoists, who were supporters of mao zedong's cultural revolution, who watched with absolute great joy how kunweibins kill ordinary people, throw them out of windows, kill university professors, burn books, that's all justified in the halls of the sorbonne and other french universities, which were the carriers of evil, why are we surprised that now the universities of the united states have become these seeds of evil. these people have always been an example of intellectual incapacity. now masha hesson, who is known for her efforts to fit the russian-ukrainian war into the context of her own political, i would say, benefit, compared the actions of the israelis in the gas attack with the actions of the nazis against the jews. and this, despite the fact that we already know that...