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people to the front, however, zelensky noted that he needed additional arguments and also said that for these people , an additional 3 million people are needed who will pay taxes, since it is we, the taxpayers, who pay the salaries of our military, those who are not currently at the front, he also told about the fact that ukraine will receive international support for several patriot systems and us. this year, he says about the help of the usa and the european union that he is sure that the usa will not betray us, about the eu he says that there were big stakes, they played on big stakes and achieved one victory over 50 billion, i am sure that they will achieve such an issue with the european union, he also spoke about orban today, asking him why he did not support him.
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ukraine and does not support the ukrainian issue, i want to listen to what the president answered in more detail, but he says that regarding the negotiations between, if orban did not agree on the negotiations between him and the president of the russian federation, today they also talked about trump, they mentioned him if he becomes the next president of the united states of america, said that president zelenskyi said that... support ukraine will not change, but trump is a different person, and he may behave completely differently, but he is sure that the us support for ukraine will not change, and noted that he has a working relationship with the head of the armed forces of ukraine zaluzhny, and did not comment , regarding the dismissal of the chairman, there was no such concept, the question to the answer to the question was very... washed away, we asked and we asked our question
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to the spresso tv channel, regarding the displaced people, people who are currently abroad, who are in ukraine, the president assured that is inside ukraine support for internally displaced persons will not decrease, and the president said about the people who went abroad, what exactly did the president answer us, let's hear, about the multitude. citizens, i spoke even before the start of a full-scale war, it was in our program, i really think that it is normal, i think that there are really 60 million ukrainians, this is true in the world, and not all of them necessarily live in ukraine, in they have a history, they have their families, someone was born there in canada, in the united states, but to give them the opportunity to support ukraine, to feel that they are ukrainians, to help, to open businesses here, to pay some taxes. the fact that all this is definitely a plus
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for ukraine, and therefore it is necessary to think about it for a moment, only a moment, which is important, it is not necessary to overheat this issue, but it is also not possible too soon, there are delicate issues in multiple citizenship, i would like so that our people abroad , especially women, children, hear this, so that when they get a job... and find a new life there, so that they are not in a hurry to renounce the citizenship of our country, the president said about multiple citizenship, and he also said that ukrainians will begin to return to ukraine when air defenses are strengthened here and when the support of... the european union, the countries
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of the european union to our immigrants, will decrease. the president promised that next year we will produce 1 million drones, we are talking about combat drones, and said that the process of exchanging prisoners of war with the russian federation is being held up because of the russian federation. however, volodymyr zelensky announced a big exchange, he did not mention anything else, because it is necessary. about this i need to shut up, the president talked about a lot, i don’t have enough air time to tell everything, so that’s all i remembered and i’ll pass the air to you sergey, we already told about it dmytro on our air, thank you for including it, it was dmytro didora , our correspondent, well, we actually have general viktor yagun on the phone, we will now ask him about this multiple citizenship, which volodymyr zelenskyy said, well, we are obviously talking about two or more. three citizenships, i don't
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know, so far it's hard for me to say anything, well from what the president said, i understand that it is about people who will acquire citizenship. who went to flee the war and will acquire citizenship, that in principle they will be able to keep their ukrainian citizenship, did i understand correctly, mr. general? well, it is difficult to say something now, because we need to make changes to the constitution, and it is such a slow and very difficult thing to carry out, i just want to remind you that there is the experience of the same israel , who uses this opportunity and... he actively uses its diaspora, we do a huge diaspora, and do you remember how under poroshenko and under yushchenko the question was how to attract our diaspora, in particular from the states, from
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great britain, from canada first of all, probably so that they could without losing their well, of my citizenship in those countries, but having ukrainian actively working there in the government, in public positions, the situation, for example, in israel, when on the 7th-10th, uh, there was a call to return, defend the homeland, and a lot of citizens of the united states, from other countries, with israeli passports, double citizenship, came as reservists to fight, that is, there is, there is a positive experience, it must be studied, and it is clear that safeguards must be made for... e frauds, we have experience with some
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persons from the middle east who actively used this mechanism in order to get ukrainian citizenship legalized, that is, there is a need to calculate it all clearly, but i think that is also positive. in the same way, mr. general, in that on the day when volodymyr zelenskyy himself held a big press conference, vladimir putin announced that russia, according to him, is the only guarantor of the sovereignty and integrity of ukraine. let's listen to what putin said. russia was the sole guarantor of ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. russia, when it created the soviet union, simply handed over, together with the population, huge historical russian territories, huge potential invested colossal resources in this entire territory,
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the western lands of ukraine, well, we know everything, how ukraine got something, stalin gave it after the second world war. mr. general, considering what putin says, he always lies and tries to interpret history according to his patterns, but judging by what he says, does this mean that he perceived ukraine as part of russia, and continues to perceive it? part of the russian federation, it means that he is ready. for our land and fight with ukrainians to the very end, just like that, for him ukraine does not exist as a state, including belarus does not exist as a state, no exists as a state of armenia, georgia and other other
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states that appeared on the territory of the former soviet union, everything that he is now, for example, why he... does not want the complete destruction of ukraine in some way, he wants to control kyiv and put a marinate here and the government, this is also because, like the soviet union, it is beneficial for them to have one more voice in the un, which would support their crazy ideas. now belarus is doing this alone, well, there are a couple of them in addition to their posikpaks, it seems as if ukraine, such a big european state, should support all this madness. therefore, they will not, well, in their plans to make ukraine a puppet state without access to the seas, but completely controlled by them, that's all, here to listen to this delusion, you know, i know, i think that someday
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on the ukrainian-chinese border we will remember this everything is an anecdote, but from what putin and shaigu say, it means that they are... ready to throw into the crucible of war everything they have, actually their human resources, it is much more than in ukraine , obviously, the military resource is now much larger. than in ukraine, under what conditions can ukraine win over russia? under the conditions of unity, political and other, unity, exceptional unity is what we lacked in the 20s of the 20th century, we did not have the support of the west and we did not have unity in our ranks, and this allowed... russian, or soviet russia , to conquer the ukrainian people's republic, that's
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all. and well, it's clear that when putin says that we're going to stick to our commitments or our plans to conduct a so-called special military operation, about denazification, demilitarization, that means the war in ukraine will continue, and... no other options than the surrender of ukraine, he won't accept, right? that's right, and how can it be, if they are now emphasizing that military actions are taking place on the territory of the russian federation, they this entire territory, all the lands that are now taking place, a direct clash, according to their constitution, this is the territory of the russian federation, why did they include these territory, not only in order to... put his paw on ours territory, and in order to be able to use
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internal legislation in the territory of military operations, to use conscripts , if god forbid something like this happens, it is to use tactical nuclear weapons, which is written in their concept, which is for the protection of their own sovereignty, and they emphasize everywhere that we did not attack anyone, our military operations are taking place on the territory of the russian federation, well... formally according to their signs, but we attacked the russian federation and are trying to capture the regions that are included in their constitution by their composition, such absurd now, but they live in that absurdity and they believe in it, so listening to delusions from this person somehow, you know, disrespecting yourself. thank you, mr. general, it was the general of the sbu in the reserve viktor. former deputy head of the security service of ukraine, friends, we are working live on the espresso tv channel, we are also
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sociological companies can conduct such surveys, well, in fact, we as a tv channel can also conduct such a survey. next, we have oleksandr musienko, director of the center for military legal studies, in touch. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you and thank you for joining our broadcast today. i congratulate you. well, obviously you watched zelensky's press conference and you have your own impression. how do you like today's zelenskyi? how are his annual results? well, in principle , it’s fine, let’s say so, the way the president answers , he answered that way, the questions were not easy, complicated, and the press conference itself was basically the same, but we heard certain answers, then everyone can form their own impression, in my quite a normal impression of what happened, i heard some explanations that maybe i would like to hear more in depth, but understanding that the time of the press conference is
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limited, for obvious reasons, schedule load, etc., so i it seems that it is quite normal, it just depends on specific issues, you can further evaluate them in more depth, but in general, there are acute questions about aid to ukraine, and about hostilities, and about the year 2024, what it might be, and about mobilization. we heard all this, well, we also heard zelenskyi's answers regarding the attacks or attacks of mp marina bezugla from the servant of the people, if we have it. synchronism, i am now turning to our editors, we will now hear what zelensky said, because it is very important during the last two months we watched how there were claims from the right-wing power, the power of the servant of the people, forgive me, and what mariana bezugla wrote, those who have facebook, obviously also saw it many times,
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because it was quoted and paid a lot of attention, including on various tv channels. let's listen to what volodymyr zelensky said. mr. zaluzhnyi is also my representative, as well as all those whom i appointed or who came with me, someone, someone i am very grateful for, someone i am ashamed of, and as for any e-e comments on facebook, i am sorry, i... i don't do it, i don't have time, i don't have it time of daily, daily, and daily these unnecessary dialogues, fruitless, and as for maryana, valera, and they have
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several other people there, it is very difficult, they all love to comment, like and... they communicate there very often, they have dialogues , they have been from the first days, then they go to the front together , then they quarrel, these are difficult issues, to be honest for me, that is why i told you, it seems to me that we all need to give results to the state every day, and we will have time for a selfie. mr. oleksandr, is this answer enough for to say that there are no issues at all between zelenskyi and zaluzhny, well, at least such fundamental ones that would simply prevent them from cooperating, or at least that we see this conflict between the civilian and military leadership, which, by the way, i also wrote about economist no, well, there are issues , there is a working relationship, as the president said, and obviously there are also working issues, and well, you heard that actually the commander-in-chief, yesterday, he
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spoke, the commander-in-chief of the armed forces, general luzhnyi with the pretext of me, well, let's say yes, somewhat contradictory, statement regarding the need to return the old system, well, let's put it this way, especially, probably , to mention the odesa military committee, i would not like to return such professionals in quotes, well, today we heard from the president of ukraine that a mobilization plan is needed, it is necessary to coordinate certain working points, in my opinion, it seems to me that... there are certain points that are not agreed, and it is clear that when it comes to the fact that 500 thousand citizens must be called up, mobilized, then it is definitely necessary to explain for what specific goals tasks, and this does not need to be explained to maryana bezugli, nor to me, nor to anyone else, it is obviously necessary, although the president also told society, i think so, but it needs to
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be explained at the level of the supreme commander-in-chief, for what purposes, tasks and the plan for the use of troops, i understood that there are issues related to this, and there is no one hundred percent agreement to date, you heard that the general staff was named, the commander-in-chief was named, and the commander of the operational-strategic group of the military was named, as far as i know understood, there may be some questions from the point of view, well, in general, you understand, now there will be questions, because now, in any case, it is in the interests of everyone, and the supreme commander, and most importantly. the commanders of the entire ukrainian army, and we , the ukrainian people, obviously, that the professionals, the people who are responsible for this, should conduct an analysis of counteroffensive actions, which was done very correctly, because there are successes, in my opinion, from at least two of of three elements, this is a counteroffensive, this is the exhaustion of russian troops and not giving them an opportunity
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to conduct large-scale offensive actions, i think it is a success, just like the war at sea, but of course, that there is a question about the liberated territories, it did not turn out as well, i guess, as expected, and therefore now, i think that there are many questions around this, plus the west asks for an explanation , you know that now, in order to coordinate and improve cooperation, the united states is sending a corresponding mission to us, because they were apparently somewhat dissatisfied with the coordination and communication that was on the part of both our general staff and them, which washington wrote about post about it, so there are some questions, but... well, i would say that they really, in my opinion, have such a working character, everything and everything can be worked on really and normally. mr. oleksandr, i also wanted to ask you... about putin's statements today, because today putin and shoigu talked about the successes in the war against ukraine, and of course,
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for the second time in a few days, putin is saying that russia does not want to go to war with countries nato, although our western partners, joseph biden, the president of the united states of america and defense minister pistorius constantly talk about it of germany says that it is necessary to prepare for war with the russian federation, let's hear what the president of russia said, he says something, that's if nato, that's if it 's in ukraine now, then russia will win, the next nato countries, why do we need these countries nato, we don't need them ever, we did n't need them, now we don't need them, they won't be needed in the future, and why do they say that, to encourage them to pay money. what for putin, i always repeat, always lies, but when he lies, it is still some kind of sign for the world, because a person who has atomic weapons, a person who has
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army, a large army, maybe it is not so modernized, although shoigu talked about the fact that their army is now the most armed and the most modern, because it is going through the war in ukraine, in your opinion, are there reasons now for... europeans , take care of your security and take certain steps, that is, focusing on what pistorius says for 5-7 years, but during this period, as the german minister of defense says, we need to prepare for a possible attack or for a possible conflict with russia federation? i think so, now the real steps that need to be taken , what impresses me is that the minister of defense of germany, he also talks about what is now very important... to support ukraine, which, strictly speaking, today europe must play a certain role in order to be ready, that provided that, if suddenly the united states reduces
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support for a certain period, to provide this support and at least partially compensate, this is a very important point, and this is a really significant transformation of approaches on the part of germany, it is very important. in terms of what's going on now directly strengthening security. flank of nato, germany also plays a role in this, because literally on december 18, the day before , the relevant protocol was signed on the plans to deploy another german brigade in lithuania, and it is very well received in lithuania, and well, let's say, they expect it, well this should take place during 2024, and in general , from what is visible, today finland is being strengthened very significantly, you see that the finns... in parallel with joining nato, this was not enough for them and they also signed a separate agreement with the united states, which gave, this agreement made it possible to use
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finnish airfields and ports for american planes and ships , respectively, that is, to strengthen in this way. well, in the end, this is what russia is trying to form in the leningrad district there and so on. this is to a certain extent, if they will concentrate their forces there, the troops, where in what way even to their advantage, because they can focus less on the war against ukraine, but in general, what can be said, today i see threats to nato countries of a hybrid nature, this is what they are today, well, they are the ones we saw about six months ago from belarus to poland, wagnerian terrorists who were practically ready to cross... the border and enter the territory under the guise of illegal migrants poland, then commit sabotage there, various terrorist acts, for what, in order
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to cause a disjointed reaction and discussion within nato, whether it is russian aggression or a terrorist attack. now they are trying to implement something similar on the finnish border, and therefore finland is forced to close all checkpoints are already in the second or even the third, and thus it can be said... that they are actually preventing russia from trying to send someone there under the guise of illegal migrants, but let's look at the general trajectory and strategy : the very fact of moving russia's nuclear weapons to belarus is in many respects an aggressive step towards nato. the very statements regarding finland and the very statements in general are just as aggressive actions towards nato. and how about me it seems certain that there will be a reaction from the north atlantic alliance, and once again it is necessary to understand that these are just these aggressive
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attacks of russia, they do not stop and will not stop. in ukraine, and the germans also talk about it, and others talk about it openly, the americans, so i think it's an excuse for europe to invest more, do more, and now it's just probably clear where to invest, it's ukraine, because the more destroyed russian troops here, the closer the victory of ukraine, the less threats to nato, this is obvious, by the way, david cameron, the british foreign minister, said that support. will last as long as it takes, and compared the war to a play, let's hear what david cameroon said. the first act was russia's stunning failure to achieve its goals, the second act was ukraine's counter-offensive in the summer of 2022, a brilliant success that the ukrainians showed by pushing back the russians, regaining half of the lost territories. the third act was more difficult on land, but the fourth act has not yet
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been written. and we must make sure that let's write it correctly, together with our friends and partners from the western world. mr. oleksandr, if we use this terminology of actions and plays that are not unwritten, in your opinion, what should be the fourth action of ukraine and the western partners? i think that, let's say, the answer is partial, if we are talking about britain, zadei gave us. today, who wrote that a pact could be concluded between britain and ukraine, in fact on long-term defense and security support, which would provide for britain to strengthen our capabilities, particularly at sea, together with norway, now we are talking about a maritime coalition, and this is very important, by the way, the minister of foreign affairs lord cameron, he visited both kyiv and odessa, which
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demonstrates, let's say, a separate interest in the successful implementation of the black sea strategy with on the part of ukraine, this is a very important point, so it seems to me that they will help us and work in this direction, precisely what concerns the black sea, and why i am talking about this, because it is at least a part of this act, and a separate action of this act if we speak like that in theatrical language, in the course of which there should be this war at sea, the continuation of this war at sea. and the reduction of the capabilities and capacities of the russian black sea fleet, then, of course, the continuation of support, which should now include this fourth action not just the transfer of weapons to ukraine, but an increase in the production of weapons for ukraine and an increase in the production of weapons by ukraine, which is also an important point that is not mentioned should be forgotten, because it is also our duty to increase the defense capability, i think that in
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this should consist of the following. this action. thank you. well, if we use this theatrical terminology, then if the weapon is hanging somewhere, and the gun is hanging, then sooner or later it will fire. but i hope that this gun will shoot in the direction of the russian federation. thank you, mr. oleksandr, it was oleksandr musienko, director of the center for military legal studies. friends, throughout the broadcast we ask you this: do you trust president zelensky? yes, no, if you're watching us on tv, pick up your phone. or smartphones vote if you trust 0800 211 381, no, 080 211 382, all calls to these numbers are free, please show the intermediate results of this survey, i will also say that we also conduct this survey on youtube, i trust 32% at the moment, 68% , no, well, there is a similar proportion on youtube, now, for those who are watching us on youtube right now, keep
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voting and keep voting on the air. in 15 minutes, don't switch, there was a summary of the year, we break down what he talked about and what consequences it will have in today's edition of the bbc ukraine, i am olga polomaryuk. we really need support, because some things, some things, we just don't have... mobilization, financial assistance and most importantly, the situation at the front. volodymyr zelenskyi has just finished his year-end press conference. the speech took place at a time when western aid to ukraine is delayed, the situation at the front is becoming increasingly difficult. we analyze everything worth knowing together with correspondents and experts.
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