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to vote and continue to vote on the air, then we have victoria syumar, yaroslav yurchyshen and yelyzaveta yasko, after 15 minutes don't switch, i summed up the results of the year, we break down what i talked about and what consequences it will have, in today's episode of bbc ukraine, i'm olga polomaryuk. we really need support because some things. we simply don't have some things from zamunit. mobilization, financial assistance and most importantly - the situation at the front. volodymyr zelenskyi has just finished his year-end press conference. the performance took place during the evening aid to ukraine is delayed, the situation at the front is becoming increasingly difficult. we analyze everything worth knowing together with correspondents and experts. not an easy task,
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that is what the western media called today's press conference of volodymyr zelensky even before the beginning, and there are reasons for this: firstly, the western aid that is being delayed is 60 billion dollars from the united states and 50 billion euros from the european union. secondly, and this affects, follows from the first, the difficult situation with the ammunition of the ukrainian army, and the further complication of the situation at the front. a difficult year for... ukraine and for partners, because at the beginning of 2023 in kyiv , they spoke with optimism about the future counteroffensive after the successful operations to liberate kharkiv oblast and kherson. the ukrainian military, as predicted, was even supposed to enter crimea and the results turned out to be more modest, next year promises to be even more difficult. well, next year ukraine enters with problems, these are issues of mobilization, budget deficit and support of allies, precisely about... support for the event
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volodymyr zelenskyi was asked by the correspondent the bbc's jessica parker, and here's what the president's response was. mr. zelensky, you are currently facing many problems related to the decline of support for the west, recruitment of people to the army and russian attacks. please tell me, don't you think that this is the beginning of losing the war, that you can gradually come to losing? no, i do... we think we were in the most difficult situation, and we were almost completely occupied, at least, at least the central regions of our state, and the infrastructure facilities, logistics of our state, and roads, railways, delivery of...
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food, economy, completely killed by cyber attacks, funding opportunities temporarily occupied cities, we were in a complete blockade, we got out of people, god, partners, i don't know who else, all this helped, well there were many questions to volodymyr zelenskyi, and journalists to speak... several hundred gathered today. in the last meeting with representatives of zmi zelenskyi in june, just before the start of the counteroffensive, which was expected both in ukraine and in the west. and what was the mood today, has the president's rhetoric changed? we are talking about it with my colleague, bbc correspondent sviatoslav khomenko. hello, good evening. so, the first thing i want to ask about is: did you see the same zelensky that you saw at the previous press conferences, what do you personally feel? caught
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my eye. good evening, ola. well, it was rather our old, familiar zelensky than some new one. he still prefers to talk about topics in the field of conditional international affairs, about his contacts with world leaders, than about some internal problems. when asked about internal problems, he usually answered that he lacked something banal. to monitor them, whether the government or the military or someone else is responsible for their decision, his job is to be a leader, to represent ukraine on the world stage, to somehow wage a war. it was clear, on the other hand, that when asked by a polish journalist about ukraine's relationship with his country, which touched zelensky to the core, he answered it very long, in detail, and in fact repeated everything.
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annual history of these difficult and ambiguous relations with poland. it was clear that zelenskyi is sincerely worried about the fact that if donald trump wins the presidential elections of the united states of america... then this could change the situation for ukraine in the war, and not for the better, but it was still the same zelenskyi, he tried somehow to make fun of journalists, for example, to another polish journalist, he stated that ukraine agrees to provide his mother with a ukrzaliznytsia car so that she could visit her son, and something more humane, and this again unites this zelenskyi, for example, with last year, was it is clear that he is very tired. he is very tired, yes, indeed, it caught my eye, and what worries ukrainian society, yes, the question of mobilization, it was one of the first, here is how zelensky sees mobilization, well, the most interesting thing is that
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some specific vision we did not hear volodymyr zelenskyi about the problem of mobilization at this press conference. he told us the sequence of events that brought us to the present day. in fact, judging by the words of zelensky, some time ago, the military offered him to hold an additional one mobilization of 450-500 thousand people. zelensky had questions about this concept that sounded quite logical. these questions were of a social nature, for example, is it in this case about the demobilization of those people who have been defending ukraine for the second year. and of a financial nature. a figure was given that... such a mobilization would cost ukraine 500 billion uah, and zelenskyi also mentioned that six civilian taxpayers provide for one military man, and where to get so many taxpayers from january 1 in order to to ensure such mass mobilization,
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the military, according to zelenskyi, did not say, therefore, according to zelenskyi, the situation now looks like this: he expects the military to answer his questions, to hear their arguments. already then will decide to give the green light to these initiatives or not. at the same time , we heard two important things from zelenskyi that have been discussed in ukraine for a long time. first, he stated that he would definitely not sign a law that would provide for the mobilization of women, and secondly, he said that if he heard a sufficient and convincing argument, he would agree with the fact that the age for mobilization will be lowered from 27 to 25. yes, slava, thank you, svyatoslav khomenko, a bbc correspondent, was from... we talked about volodymyr zelensky's press conference. a lot of attention was paid to international support at today's event. will the necessary amount of help arrive, and if there is less support, will it be necessary to change military tactics because of this. and what about one of these
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aspects: ammunition, said zelensky? let's listen. we don't have enough the amount of suitable ammunition, but that doesn't mean... that we won't find a way out, or haven't found it already, but for that we really need support, because some things, some things we just don't have, we're working on it , we continue the conversation, i am adding to the air the director of the institute of world politics, yevgeny magda, in touch with us, mr. yevgeny, i congratulate you, but in today's questions of journalists to volodymyr zelenskyi, there were a lot of questions, if, that is, if trump becomes. president if there is no help, if the war does not end next year, zelensky was convincing in his answers to these questions, what did you see? good evening, i saw that president volodymyr zelenskyi was tired enough, and
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there was no pressing topic in his press conference today, he failed to show any result, our result is common, not only. volodymyr zelenskyi, which could become an actual information occasion, and therefore the question arises, was it worth organizing this press conference at all? uhu, even so, well, what was expected, so the answers, more precisely, to what was the question everyone was waiting for, it was the question of the resignation of the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhnyi, and here too zelenskyi did not answer directly, he said that they have a working relationship, why is there no direct answer? because valery zaluzhny’s resignation, which can be initiated by volodymyr zelensky himself without anyone’s help, is capable of causing a serious socio-political crisis inside ukraine, because, according to sociologists, zaluzhny is more popular today
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than zelensky, but i cannot imagine the situation which zaluzhny will voluntarily go to resignation and will say, let's say that he is going to run for president, in my opinion... it is simply impossible, ugh, and president zelenskyi also assured that russia has not achieved a single victory, but today putin repeated again that he is not backing down . from your goals in the war in ukraine, what are your forecasts for the next year in this regard? unfortunately, at the moment russia controls about 20% of the territory of ukraine, it is the largest territory in europe occupied by force after 1945, it causes huge losses to ukraine, the war has turned into the stage of such a viscous positional one, because... the presence of space intelligence in russia and in nato, and nato in this sense supports ukraine,
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as far as i am concerned, excludes the possibility of some rapid, powerful tank strikes, that is, it is definitely not the second world war, and this is probably not even the kind of war that ukrainian military personnel and nato instructors could prepare for. and obviously, the training cycle also needs to be changed, taking into account the lessons of the 2023 campaign . ugh, well, ukraine also relies on aid. of the event, zelensky talked about it, and many people asked about it journalists, how realistic is it to receive new aid packages from the main allies of the united states of america, the eu, this is, well, it is probably not the end of december, it is probably the beginning of next year, what are your forecasts? the war in ukraine will not stop if western aid stops even completely, but i think, and i have ... reasons to believe that now even at the scientific level
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the stability of nato and the european union is being discussed in the context of russian actions, so the west will help ukraine. another question is what it is too will require efforts from the west, and we understand that next year is an election year for great britain as well, the elections to the european parliament and putin's re-election and the presidential campaign in the united states, this topic of ukraine will be very sensitive for the countries where the real elections will take place, and we need to demonstrate within ukraine that positive changes are taking place, and we are ready for a more effective further struggle. well, we touched on the topic of mobilization with my colleague, and zelensky also stated that the military is asking for additional mobilization of up to half a million people, but according to him, it is so sensitive. question, mobilization should include demobilization, the right to rest, and in
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addition, it will cost 500 billion hryvnias, what do you think this mobilization law might look like? the verkhovna rada must decide what the mobilization law should look like, it can only change it. as a person who understands communications, i will say that it is necessary to act through powerful information channels and create. another image of a strong ukrainian army, to which there will be many willing to join, that is, it is necessary to work on the mistakes regarding mobilization that were made in the 23rd year and to create a new image, a new algorithm for finding people who are ready to defend ukraine. ukraine has a significant amount of human resources, but russia is shaking it up extremely actively, and the fact that... the president began to say that he would not sign a decree on the mobilization of women, unfortunately,
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is evidence that russian fakes fly into even such events as it was press conference of the president. mr. yevgeny, i have time to ask you one more quick question before the start of this press conference, many experts said that zelensky needs to show that he has a plan for next year, have you seen this plan? no, unfortunately, no. ah... but i understand that war is a way of deception, and it is impossible to open all the cards during the war, but in my impression, volodymyr zelenskyi had no trump cards, it is a little different from playing with open cards. thank you, we heard you, the director of the institute of world politics, evgeny magda, was in touch with us. well, that's all for today, look for more stories on our website bbc.ua, too we are back on our social media pages. on the air tomorrow at 21: all is well.
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congratulations, friends, the tv channel's live broadcast continues with the verdict program. my name is serhiy rudenko. a big... press conference was held today, the annual press conference of volodymyr zelenskyi. today we will also talk about what the supreme commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine said, and we will also talk about this in the program today. another year of war - final press conference of president volodymyr zelenskyi, key statements from the head of state: control over europe and collapse nato, putin's goal in the war against ukraine and the forecast for 2024. ukraine is on the way to
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eu membership, what steps have already been taken and what still needs to be done. in the course of our program today, we ask you the following question: do you trust president zelensky? yes, no, if you watch us on youtube, everything is quite simple, two options: yes, no, or your comment, please write under the video. if you watch us on tv, during the telecast, you can pick up the phone and vote: yes 0800 211 381, if you trust zelensky no, 0800 211 380. we conducted such a survey a few days ago regarding the head of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhnyi, you know, friends, that a lot of such surveys on trust and distrust are conducted by sociological services, well, we decided to conduct this survey as well. i would like to introduce the guests of today's studio, they are people 's deputies of ukraine, viktoriya syumar,
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european solidarity faction viktoriya, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast. servant of the people faction. mrs. elizaveta, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. good evening and thank you. and yaroslav yurchyshyn, the voice faction, head of the parliamentary committee on freedom of speech. mr. yaroslav, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening. so, ladies and gentlemen , zelensky's big press conference was held today, a lot of comments have already been made, this press conference ended an hour ago, did you hear the answers to the questions you had, did you understand, from with what messages did he leave, with annual messages, with final and forecasts for the next year, with by which volodymyr zelensky came out. let's start with yaroslav yurchushin, please. well , let's start with the fact that there was
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a press conference, it's already a fact that the president is talking to... with the press, and this should be celebrated on the second year of a full-scale invasion, on the 10th year of the war, the value of freedom of speech it is so important for society that the government must maintain the constancy of the tradition, and of course there will always be a desire for more, of course there will always be a deeper desire, and to be honest, the press conference resembled pre-war press conferences always... one wants more depth on acute issues, on issues that hurt society , the issues were very, shall we say, of a wide spectrum, and from tactics in relation to the war, and here it is easier to understand why there is no specifics, and to specific issues
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with regard to the probable facts of corruption in the environment, so... the answer to this question was very revealing, that there is a small sample of managers in the president's team, and accordingly, the loss of at least one of them carries great risks, and that is why the president actually it won't work, and here's the question, are there really only four or five managers in the country, so does the so-called hr team work well in the team of... the president, well, there are probably big problems with that, ah , there was, let's put it this way, i would like more specifics, here, especially in matters that do not relate to the sphere of national security and defense, where in principle one can assume about certain aspects there, but - the press conference was held, there is food for
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thought, i want it there is more, well, even demonstrative, but unity. military and civilian command, but i want one more time emphasize let's appreciate what we have too, yes we as a society ah actually achieved that with all the opportunities to implement strict censorship ah being in the 10th year of the war we have press conferences with president, he is forced to answer whether he wants to or not, but he answers to... not convenient questions, the quality of the answers, the list of journalists for the discussion, but she, we have her, it is a demonstration of the stability of ukraine itself and the accountability of the ukrainian government. thank you, mr. yaroslav, ms. victoria, mr. yaroslav mentioned this small one the team mentioned by volodymyr zelenskyi, about six or seven people, thanks to whom we
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have everything, as he said, and we may simply not have air defense, or there was such a phrase somewhere, or in this case, it is not ukraine a hostage of these five or six people, if during the war only these five or six people can solve many issues, and what will actually happen if... these five or six people will not be around president zelenskyi? and i think that ukraine will definitely not lose, even if there are not five or six people, because everything holds really on national unity , and we didn't hear an answer about that today, and it 's actually very unfortunate, it's a pity that there is no understanding that in the next difficult year, when unpopular decisions will have to be made, after all, surely a government of national unity could be ... one of those decisions that would unite a society that supports quite naturally, different political forces, and this could add impulses for the work
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of the parliament, and in particular, again in the adoption of unpopular decisions, what i saw today the president obviously does not want to take on herself these unpopular decisions, says that decisions about mobilization are requests of the military, first of all, unfortunately, she did not hear answers to questions, for example, about... strategic plan a and plan b, for example, for the country, considering to the geopolitical challenges facing the country today, the next elections in america next year, and in the european union, and in many countries of the european european union, all of this really needs such, such good communication with society, when people would understand how we we have to hold on why should we be based and how should it all move, well, we heard about maryana and valera, of course it would be better if we didn't hear about it, because after all, such hints about
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disdain for the military, for the commander-in-chief, they certainly do not add optimism today ukrainian society , well, since you have already mentioned these hints about valera and maryana, we will listen, we have this synchronicity, i would also like to ask you, mrs. elizaveta, what are your impressions, did zelenskyy answer all the questions that , well, and society, and journalists, and whether or not you is it clear what, what, what will happen next, what is now, are there clear answers to the questions that you personally had? it seems to me that president zelensky raised quite a few topics at this press conference and gave answers to very... difficult questions that concern not only our internal processes, but international ones, i want to draw attention here to his answer about
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nato, about that, unfortunately, we are not invited there yet, these are his very sincere answers regarding the situation with poland, where he honestly talks about problems and progress as well. everything that concerns, for example, the exchange of prisoners, about which countries are helping us with the return of children, our prisoners, where there is progress, where there is not, uh, it seems to me that he outlines the situation quite clearly, that it is not easy, that it is difficult , and i think it is very important, and indeed, in a country where, we now have, er,... mobilization, wartime, we understand that there can be a lot of restrictions on freedom of speech, that nevertheless, he really answered
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uncomfortable questions, and it seems to me that ukrainians, every ukrainian in the questions that were asked, received certain answers, it seems to me that this is very important at the end of the year, thank you, well, since we already... mentioned about zaluzhnyi and the cornerback, which president zelenskyi was asked about, then president zelenskyi said that he trusts zaluzhnyi and that zaluzhny is part of the team of a big team and he has a working relationship with zaluzhny, let's hear this fragment. i have a good working relationship. he has to be responsible for the result for the result on the battlefield as a commander, together with the general staff there are many issues there, there is also
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the commander of tavria. which is operational was in command, look, this is a difficult issue, the offensive, something happened, something didn’t happen, something happened, something is missing, or maybe it won’t be there, well, that is, it is a complicated, very complicated story, i believe that we can afford to live in ukraine with a daily result, that's what i think, if we're ready to bring it... the result is each of us, and it's , you know how, it's not a joke, that's what i'd like to say, i think that being the head is honor, zelensky was asked about maryana bezugla, as well as about these posts, which are regularly appear on the page of the people's deputy of ukraine from the servant of the people, and what
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the supreme commander-in-chief said. armed forces of ukraine, let's hear. mr. zaluzhnyi, also my representative, as well as all those whom i appointed or who came with me, i am very grateful to some, i am ashamed of some, and as for any comments on facebook, i'm sorry, i... do not do this , i don't have time, i don't have time for daily, daily, and daily these unnecessary dialogues, fruitless, and as for maryana, valera, and they have several other people there, it's very difficult, they are all very they like to comment, like, on facebook.
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they communicate there very often , they have dialogues, they have been together since the first days, then they go to the front together, then they quarrel, these are difficult issues, to be honest for me, that is why i told you, it seems to me that we all need to give results to the state , daily, and we'll have time for a selfie, mrs. victoria, i'll ask you if zelensky reminds you of a class teacher who says, well, maryana. what, what is this familiarity with the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine during the war, why does he call him valera, maryana, they are sharing something between themselves there, taking selfies, collecting some likes, well, that is, was this the kind of answer you expected from zelenskyi, regarding the tyrant? i think the first answer was much better about working relationships, let's just say i won't
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judge now. there is the level of general culture and education of someone, no matter who it is, i would still talk here about the need for unity between the top leadership of the state, the leadership of the armed forces, the armed forces of ukraine and ukrainian politicians, and in such conditions with such demonstrative contempt, it is in in principle, it is difficult, and i understand why this worries people, since they see it as a threat, because society today is terrified of what will happen in the event of a conflict, even between the highest political leadership and the military leadership, well, anything can happen, and here we need people to calm down, and not to provoke with such, well, statements seem somewhat ill-conceived to me, i hope that it was not some kind of special preparation, it happened by chance. thank you, ms. victoria, mr.
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yaroslav, i will ask you already as... the new chairman of the parliamentary committee on freedom of speech. representatives of telegram channels were present at zelenskyi's press conference today. well, our telegram channels became part of the information space with the war, and these telegram channels began to develop quite dynamically. it is clear that there are verified telegram channels, well , for example, the verified espresso telegram channel, the verified... bbc channel, the verified league telegram channel, everything is clear there, who is the founder, who owns these telegram channels and who owns these media , because the property structure is prescribed, well, on ours, for example, on the website, it is written quite clearly. i don't know what a scumbag's telegram channel is, for example, but he was at a press conference today at president zelenskyi's, at yours, as the head of the parliamentary committee on ...

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