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on issues of freedom of speech, today at zelensky's press conference there were representatives of telegram channels, but telegram channels have become part of the information space with the war, and these telegram channels have begun to develop quite dynamically, it is clear that there are verified telegram channels, well, for example, the verified espresso telegram channel, the verified bbc telegram channel, the verified... telegram channel of the league, everything is clear there who is the founder, who owns these telegram channels and who owns these media, because the structure property is registered, well, on our website, for example, it is registered quite clearly. i don't know what truh's telegram channel is, for example, but he was at a press conference with president zelensky today. do you, as the head of the parliamentary committee on freedom of speech, have any questions about how these... well, i don't know, not the media, well, for
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me, some of these telegram channels are, well , typical garbage, where in or they pour mud, or write various nonsense about people, about public people, about people deputies of ukraine, about journalists, how to react in this situation at all, if the office of the president of ukraine actually legalizes these telegram channels and says that they are equal among equals. well , let's remember that this is not new in the current government, remember, the previous head of the president's office, mr. bohdan, said that we don't need the media, we are our own media, again telegram channels and social media began to replace traditional media even before the war, and there are a lot of challenges here, and you, for example, are not you can put ads and tobacco slides there.
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or some other aspects of telegram channels , well, there are no such prohibitions, that is, you can really raise your own, let’s say, attract resources to which you do not have access, and the second moment, the moment of verification, if you provide false information from some false source , you can be appealed to, you will refute, yes, but what about the telegram channel, who to appeal to, if we do not understand who it is, so if you... if the channel itself is not verified, and here, too, there is some kind of strange duplicity position, because the secretary of the council of national security and defense says that anonymous telegram channels are a threat to our national security, ah, because today the ukrainian government communicates through them, tomorrow they paid a little more or paid from another source and russian propaganda enters, and in principle there is little to be done about it which is real, because in my opinion this is a very
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ill-considered step, i understand that there is an effort to communicate with a larger audience, but if communication with a larger audience is of poor quality, then in principle we lose a very important factor , the factor information security, yes, and in fact we are opening the body to our armed forces of ukraine, and therefore i would... let's say, i would be in two hands if we were now in cooperation, all authorities worked out a mechanism, how to demand verification or limit unverified sources of information in social networks, technologically it will be very difficult, the european union and large countries are working with it now, but we are already witnesses of lawsuits against the former twitter, now the x or x network, as it is there...
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is fighting against mask, as the owner of this network, yes, for the spread of fakes, i really hope that this will be a good precedent, ukraine should theoretically, especially with the hands of the supreme leaders, actually with the hands of the supreme commander-in-chief, take care of the formation of a safe information field, so in my opinion this is a very ill-considered step, well , if only such a nuance for... strength, but the question was not given , at the same time it is very nice that in particular the journalist espress was given the opportunity to ask a question, yes, but it is better to invite the media, because we can understand who forms the editorial policy, as it is being formed, we can demand a balance of opinions in telegram channels, this is impossible, and therefore we can prepare weapons, in particular, against nast. i had no influence, of course,
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as the head of the committee of the verkhovna rada, and the committee does not have such powers to form the list of actual invitees, this is a complete answer. the range of the communication team of the office of the president, but the issue of anonymous telegram channels and even more correctly, yes , the anonymization of sources through social networks, this will be one of the topics that we will work with in the long term, i am here i really count on the position of experienced colleagues from the parliament, in particular ms. victoria, as the former head of the same specialized committee, but i will not say that there are simple things here, the only thing is that it is not necessary to... make it easier, it is not necessary to change the media , not the media, the media is the fourth estate, it's what we understand, it's what we understand how to work with, social networks are a little different, by the way, sorry that i'm asking now already out of context of what zelensky said,
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but the issue of returning to t2 and from the press, and of the fifth channel, and the direct channel remains open, no one gives an answer as to why we are not there, who are not there. the answer to how long a single telethon will last, which simply eats up huge amounts of money, such that it would be enough for any regional center to maintain the entire social infrastructure there for a year, together with hospitals and kindergartens, with schools, you as the head of the parliamentary committee will articulate these questions, because it all hangs, no one gives answers to these questions, and, unfortunately, today my colleague did not ask, despite... with conference with zelenskyi , i would ask him why espresso itself is outside t2 and why we were thrown out, no one is responsible for this, as far as i know, i am in contact with the management of your channel, with the editors of your channel, there is a legal process, and we will
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to accompany this judicial process, of course also the separation of the judicial and legislative branches of power, but there are also functions of parliamentary control, and therefore here, as it were, in addition to the actual path, so far i do not see any other paths, except that, of course, this is not an inclusion in a single marathon, and disconnection from the network is very, very, let 's say, debatable from the point of view of legality, so there is another question about the actual ratio of the price of information security and the city budget, because... because if we had at the beginning of a full-scale invasion on individual tv channels, who now work in a single marathon, the same discussion as we had on these channels in the 14th year, namely, was crimea ukrainian, yes, it is not a fact that we would have
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such a consolidated ukrainian nation now, because information flows are very it is important, and in this case, yes, whether a single marathon at the beginning of a full-scale invasion performed a certain positive function, yes, by giving a single verified source of information, 24 by 7, when none, in principle, even from large channels, of this format of information support at loss of a part of the capacity due to the occupation or loss of connections with a part of even journalists due to their own. on the occupation actions of the aggressor country, well , that is a question, but is it to be wise yesterday or to be wise the day after yesterday, there are aspects that we we definitely need to figure it out, so i don't consider it legal to turn off channels from the air, without
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a specific argument why it was done, at the moment, i am in communication with the channels, i understand that such an explanation has not been made, so here we have to achieve as for justice, whatever it will be, i am not a judge, i can only contribute to the fact that you and i achieve the truth and we will achieve it. thank you, today , in parallel with zelensky, putin and shaigu talked about the fact that they will continue the war with ukraine, putin agreed to that russia is the sole guarantor of the sovereignty and integrity of ukraine. let's listen to what putin said. the only russia was the guarantor of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine. when russia created the soviet union, it simply handed over, together with the population, huge historical territories of russia, huge potential and invested
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colossal resources in this entire territory. and the western lands of ukraine, well, we know everything . ukraine received, stalin gave after the second world war, he gave part of the polish lands mrs. elizaveta, you communicate quite actively with the international community now, how do they perceive putin in private conversations, that is, not at conferences, that is, they talk about the fact that he is crazy, he is a maniac, he is a person who is used to killing and he wants to kill of all ukrainians in order to prove that the land we live on is russian land, or is he just a pseudo'. under their actions, what they say, that is, they see him as
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a person with whom they could, in principle , talk about something else, i will start with the fact that because the fact that we have now watched these footage and these words, well, of course, it is all so terrible that soon there will be two years of full-scale war, and... putin continues to speak that rhetoric, and as far as we have just seen from the footage, he is alive, says all this, and it's all scary, terrible, and we also know that russia is increasing the production of weapons, but i came back a few days ago from the paria political committee, which was held in paris, where we ... had a hearing on the topic of the effectiveness of sanctions, we are working on a resolution, and what is
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important is what our viewers need now to say that, in fact , the sanctions were effective for the first time until russia learned to circumvent them, which means that russia continues to do everything to conduct aggression, volodymyr zelenskyi said today that there are no signals. that russia is ready to go to some negotiations there, that this is all a myth. now, before all this is perceived abroad, it is all perceived in such a way that there are no more illusions about putin, there is only a certain fear and ignorance of what will happen in the future in general, as well as everything related to the war, and in general the future of russia, and unfortunately, there are no answers to the question of what will happen to russia if russia either disintegrates. or some processes inside russia will take place, and there is a certain
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fear, indeed, both in open discussions and in closed ones. very often, when not a person from the politics of another country does not have a very thorough understanding, uh, what russia thinks, how russia thinks, sometimes there are, sometimes naive phrases that... that maybe russia will stop someday, but in general for the last two years these illusions have already passed, it was two years therefore, when it was always quite open from the side of different countries, different politicians, where we ukrainians were always told that we need to have some kind of dialogue with russia, now it is no longer there, but unfortunately, there is also no understanding of the future of russia, and that is why now are trying quite hard... to invite the russian pseudo-opposition, that is, it is either some
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representatives who have been living abroad from russia for a very long time, or on the contrary, they have a rather sad and questionable opposition position, and how do we know that any russian oppositionist ceases to be oppositionist, when the ukrainian issue starts, that's why there is work to be done, unfortunately, we also know that when russia continues, for example, to conduct nuclear terror and talk about nuclear weapons, that it actually scares europeans, different countries, and they, well they start talking a little differently, but they had no illusions and no plan yet. well, for the great future of russia, when there will be something there
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today, during the final at the press conference, volodymyr zelenskyi also spoke about the topic of mobilization. regarding this, according to him , the military approached him at the supreme commander-in-chief's post, and they offered to mobilize about 500,000 people. let's listen to what zelensky said. the issue is very sensitive, i believe, they addressed, regarding the protection of our state and potential counter-offensive actions, regarding the deficit and their view. was betting that they proposed to mobilize an additional 450-500 thousand people, this is a very serious figure, i said that i need more arguments in order to support this direction,
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because this is first of all a question of people, and the second is a question of justice, this is a question of... defense capability and a question of finances. mrs. victoria, i am addressing victoria syumar, here zelensky is now speaking, referring to the military, although zelensky is the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine, and in principle, he should have a political position on mobilization. if he spoke there today, refuting these fakes that there will be no mobilization of women, because it is, well, actually there is no such bill, and no one was going to. mobilizing women, someone just threw it into the information space , as i understand this topic, regarding mobilization, the supreme commander should have a clear position here, he should not refer to his general staff or to the chief of the armed forces, because this issue is generally a political one, that is, whether to open this great mobilization or not
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, and the answer to whether to open or not is a question of whether there will be ukraine or not. why, in your opinion, does zelenskyy avoid this, well, direct, direct answer to is this a question i think i won't surprise anyone when i say that this is an electorally unpopular issue, of course, because if there are 1 million in the armed forces, well , there are much more voters outside the armed forces, but let's talk about the problem itself and about political responsibility in fact , because after all , the political leadership in... determines the task for the military, and if this task sounds like the liberation of the ukrainian territory completely up to the borders, and obviously in 1991. then it is clear that to oppose the more numerous the russian army, well, we need people , these are supposedly logical things, so
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it seems to me that the military makes these calculations in view of the tasks clearly set by the higher political leadership, and certainly for these tasks and for the resources necessary for this, well, the responsibility of all after all, one should not be afraid to take responsibility, as surely as for other decisions, which may not be particularly popular there either, you know, we are now in that period of time, sergey, when it is either about politics, or about the state, and you won't sweat here, you know so that populism can be combined with such crazy challenges, you are right that you need to speak honestly with people, in fact, and you need to learn this, and this is clearly not helped by the only marathon that... even a year and a half ago told that russia is a bunch of idiots , yes, the russian army, and they don’t know how to fight and things like that, and we
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’ll be there in two or three weeks, and then to the crimea until there, i don’t know, until the end of the year we’ll drink coffee, everyone booked tickets, so i understand everything, i don't understand the importance of not losing such an important emotion there, yes patriotic, it is important not to really lose heart. national, but besides that, we must also talk about losses, because we bear them, and of course, many losses are wounded, who simply cannot be active military personnel anymore, and we must also communicate about this to people, so that now to explain to them why people need to be replaced in the army and why not everyone there can be at the front, that's why the problems are difficult, and that's why i started talking about the government as well. national unity and the search for other possible solutions, now it is only about the search, yes, in order to, after all, think more about the preservation
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of statehood, you are absolutely right, that is what is at stake, and unfortunately, it seems to me that we cannot clearly say that we have already decided forever this problem, the threats are extremely serious, you have heard putin, his statements, you understand that the elections in russia will take place in the background'. military escalation in ukraine, we understand that the human resource in russia is, well, much larger than in ukraine, and that russia has established production necessary military elements, yes there are rebs, semi-drones, they have always had the production of missiles, why we don’t have ballistic missiles, armored vehicles, we can talk about this for a very long time, comparing our capabilities and russian capabilities, but again... for us it is means making unpopular decisions and being politically responsible for them. by the way, you mentioned russia, today the minister of defense, or rather, the minister of attack of the russian
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federation, serhii shoigu, announced the increase in the number of the armed forces of the russian federation to 1. military personnel. let's hear what shaygu said. the force will be increased to one and a half million servicemen in the future. in 2023, all planned measures of operational combat training were completed, including 17 international exercises of various levels. mr. yaroslav, victoria says that you need to communicate with society and convey the truth or speak to society in an adult manner. you cannot constantly tell society what society only wants to hear, that the war will end there in two or three years months until the war ends. in crimea in august of the 23rd or there in the fall of the 23rd , we will enter the crimean peninsula, how do you
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assess the work of the media in this situation, which in principle is still between the government and society, and the media, the main media in the state, we have already the single telethon was mentioned, and apparently he was fulfilling some kind of mission, is there now this honest dialogue that he is talking about... victoria syumar, and do you have any comments on the single telethon and in general on how this single big information machine works in ukraine? of course there is, i have them i have repeatedly emphasized, i believe that if our viewers from a single marathon are fleeing to - anonymous telegram channels, then there must be a reason for this, that is, there is not enough. efficiency, effectiveness, quality, yes, balance, there are different slots of a single marathon, if we talk, for example, about the social slot, then independent monitoring.
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the media detector notes the balance of positions, as, for example, it notes the balance of positions, well, it is also in espresso, yes, but unfortunately not in cable broadcasting, yes, it is not publicly available, so there are definitely issues that must be taken into account, there are issues of the efficiency of using resources for this marathon, and there are issues, for example, that we have due to the regulation of access to information about... war, and this is a responsibility not the commander-in-chief, but very often the military themselves, and the presence of our international partners is decreasing in our country, yes, and it is also becoming a matter of national security, because they are beginning to talk less about us, we, if we were not there, if it were not cynical sounded, but the war in ukraine competes with the attack of hamas on israel, with the situation earlier in nagorno -karabash and the like, that is, there must be
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a very... such a strategic approach to understanding who is communicating, what is communicating, how they are communicating and that communication itself has been as effective as possible, and i think that actually, i'd like to just respond to the question of mobilization, there's hardly anyone who has more expertise in terms of the need for mobilization than the military, and there are several factors right now that we don't talk about very often, we never not even... russia in terms of quantity mobilized, it is physically impossible in our country, and the only option to level the situation is either better weapons, and this is effective work by the west, and here it is very important to note that a lot of work is being done, but here too it can be better, or really fight everyone will be, and all representatives of the government should honestly say this, without hiding their eyes, not opening
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some there... water stones and the like, so if we do not have other parities, there is a clear formula worked out by nato, the more technological weapons, the you need less manpower to deter a larger opponent, but we have technological weapons, unfortunately, at the moment, the only source of them is our western partners, that is why we critically need the consolidation of power, both military and civilian. in communications , supporting each other, no matter how difficult it may be, no matter how they set about throwing in ratings, which are often measured not even by the format of the rating, as a rating, but by trust or perception, that's all the noise, which in fact, on which , as the president said today, he does not have have time, so in this case it is very important that we constructively approach this process, and for me, as a citizen, i
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have a lot of questions regarding the communication of the authorities with society, as the head of the specialized committee, i will contribute as much as possible to these issues to be resolved within our capabilities. thank you, we must put an end to our conversation. yaroslav yurchyshyn, viktoriya syumaryi, elizaveta yasko were guests of our program today. ladies and gentlemen, thank you for participating in the program. during our program we conducted a survey, we asked you about trust. do you trust volodymyr zelenskyi? so, let's see the results. telephone survey, we conducted this survey on tv, those who watched our program on tv, so 31% yes and 69% no, on the youtube channel i watch the current broadcast, yes 19%, 71%, no, these are the voting results of our tv viewers and viewers on the youtube channel, on this, friends, i put a full stop, it was
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