if i'm honest, that's why i told you, it seems to me that we all need to give results to the state, daily, and we'll have time for a selfie. ms. victoria, i will ask you, does zelenskyy remind you of such a class teacher who says, well, maryana, valera, what is this familiarity with the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine during the war, why he... calls valera, maryana, they are sharing something there, taking selfies, collecting some likes, well, that is, did you expect such an answer from zelenskyi, regarding the hard worker? i think that the first answer was much better, about working relations, let's say this, i will not now evaluate the level of general culture, education, someone, whoever it is, i would still talk here about the need for unity between the top... leadership of the state

, by the leadership of the armed forces, the armed forces of ukraine and ukrainian politicians, and in such conditions with such demonstrative contempt, it is difficult in principle, and i understand why this worries people, since they see it as a threat, because society today is horrified to think, what will happen in the event of a conflict, yes between the superior political leadership and military leadership, well, it can come to anything, and here it is necessary to calm people down, and not provoke them with such, well, statements, it seems to me, somewhat ill-considered, i hope that it was not some kind of special preparation, it happened by chance. thank you, ms. victoria, mr. yaroslav, i will ask you already, as the new chairman of the parliamentary committee on freedom of speech. representatives of telegram channels were present at zelenskyi's press conference today. telegram channels

have become part of our information space war, and these telegram channels began to develop quite dynamically, it is clear that there are verified telegram channels, for example, the verified espresso telegram channel, the verified bbc telegram channel, the verified league telegram channel, everything is clear there, who is the founder, to whom own these telegram channels, own these media, because the ownership structure is spelled out, well, on our website, for example, it is spelled out quite clearly. i don't know what truh's telegram channel is, for example, but he was at a press conference with president zelensky today. in you, as the head of the parliamentary committee on freedom of speech, do you have any questions about how these, well, i don't know, not the media, well, for me, some of these telegram channels are, well , typical cesspools where... in or pour

mud, or they write different nonsense about people, about public people, about people 's deputies of ukraine, about journalists, how to react in this situation at all, if the office of the president of ukraine, well, actually legalizes these telegram channels and says that they are the same among equals, come on let's remember that this is not new in the actual team. of the current government, remember, the previous head of the president's office, mr. bohden, said that we don't need media, we are our own media, again, telegram channels and social media began to replace traditional media even before the war, and there are a lot of challenges here , and, for example, you cannot advertise slides, tobacco or any other aspects in telegram channels, well, there are no such bans, that is, you can really raise them. actually,

let's say this, to attract resources to which you do not have access, and the second moment, moment verification, you, if you provide untrue information from some false source, you can be sued, you will refute, yes, and what is in the telegram channel, who should be sued, if we do not understand who it is, yes, if you, if the channel itself is not verified, and there is some kind of strange double position here, because ah... the secretary of the national security and defense council says that anonymous telegram channels are a threat to our national security, and because today the ukrainian authorities communicate through them, tomorrow a little more paid or paid with russian propaganda enters from another source, and in principle there is little that can be done about it, because in my opinion this is a very ill-considered step, i understand what is going on -

let's say, an effort to communicate with a larger audience, but, if you communicate with if the audience is of poor quality, then in principle we lose. a very important factor, the factor of information security, yes, and in fact , we are opening the body to our armed forces of ukraine, and therefore i would, let's say, be happy if we were now in cooperation, all authorities worked out the mechanism, as possible require verification or limit unverified sources of information in social networks, technologically it will be very difficult, it is working with it now. actually the european union and big countries, but we are already witnessing lawsuits against the former twitter, now the x network or x, as it is called, against musk, as the owner of this network, and for spreading fakes, i really hope that it will a good precedent,

ukraine should theoretically take care of the formation of security information field , therefore, in my opinion, this is a very ill-considered step, but what if such a nuance was invited, but the question was not allowed to be asked, at the same time , it is very nice that in particular the espresso journalist was given the opportunity to ask a question, so, but it is better to invite the media, because we can understand who forms the editorial policy, how it is formed. we can demand a balance of opinions in telegram channels, this is impossible, and therefore we can prepare weapons, in particular against us, so i, as i did not influence, of course, as the head of the committee of the verkhovna rada, and the committee does not have such powers to

form the list of actual invitees, it is entirely the responsibility of the communication team of the president's office, but the issue of anonymous telegram channels and even correct... so anonymization of sources through social networks, this will be one of topics with which we will work in the long-term period, i am very much counting on the position of experienced colleagues from the parliament, in particular ms. victoria, as the former head of the same specialized committee, but i do not i will say that there are simple things here, the only thing is that you don't need to make it easier, you don't need to replace the media, not the media, the media is the fourth power , it's what we understand, it's what we understand how to work with, social networks - this is a little different, by the way, excuse me for asking now out of the context of what zelensky said, but the question of returning to t2 and from the press and the fifth channel, the direct channel,

remains open, no one gives an answer to that , why we are not there, that there is no answer, how long the only telethon will last, which eats up a lot of money, such that... it would be enough for any regional center there to maintain the entire social infrastructure together with hospitals and kindergartens and schools for a year, you as the head of the parliamentary committee will articulate these questions because, well, it all hangs , no one gives answers to these a question and , unfortunately, today my colleague did not ask zelenskyi at the press conference, i would have asked him why espresso itself is outside t2 and why we were kicked out? no one is responsible for this as far as i know, i am in touch with management of your channel, with the editors of your channel, there is a legal process, and we will accompany this legal process, of course there is a separation of the judicial and legislative branches of power, but there are also functions of parliamentary control, and therefore

here, as if in addition to the legal way, for now i somehow i don't see any other ways , except that... and of course, this is not inclusion in the single marathon, but exclusion from the network is also - very, very, let's say, debatable from the point of view of legality, so there is another question about the actual ratio price information security and the budget of the city, because if, at the beginning of the full-scale invasion , we had the same discussion on certain tv channels that are currently working in... single marathon, as we had on these channels in the 14th year, namely, was there crimea is ukrainian, yes, and not the fact that we would now have such a consolidated

ukrainian nation, but because information flows are very important, and in this case, yes, did a single marathon perform at the beginning of a full-scale invasion? a certain positive function, yes, giving a single verified a source of information 24/7, when none, in principle, of even large channels of this format. operational support in the event of the loss of part of the capacity due to the occupation or the loss of connections with a part of even journalists due to the actual occupation actions of the aggressor country, well, that is a question, but is it to be wise yesterday or to be wise the day after yesterday, there are aspects that we definitely have to figure out, yes i don't think it's legal to take channels off the air, without a specific argument why... it was done, at the moment, i'm in communication with channels, i understand that such a proper

explanation was not made, so here we have to achieve actual justice, whatever it will be, i am not a court, i can only contribute to the fact that you and i achieve the truth and we will achieve it, thank you, today in parallel with zelensky, putin and shaigu talked about continuing the war with ukraine, putin agreed that... russia is the only guarantor of the sovereignty and integrity of ukraine. let's listen to what putin said. it was the only guarantor of the sovereignty and territorial integrity of ukraine russia. russia, when it created the soviet union, simply handed over, together with the population, huge historical russian territories. huge potential. invested colossal resources in all of this territory,

western ukraine, well, we all know how ukraine turned out, stalin gave away after the second world war, he gave away part of the polish lands, mrs. elizaveta, you communicate quite actively with the international community now, they... how putin is perceived in private conversations, that is, not at conferences, that is, they talk about the fact that he is crazy, he a maniac, he is a person who is used to killing and he wants to kill all ukrainians in order to prove that the land we live on is russian land, or is he simply a pseudo-historian, history, he simply subverts his actions that they talk, that is, they see him... as a person with whom they could, in principle, talk about something else? i

'll start by saying that because we've just watched this footage and these words, well, of course, it's all so terrible that it will soon be two years of full-scale war, and putin continues to speak that rhetoric, and how we just saw poka... he's alive, he's saying all this, and it's all terrible, terrible, and we also know that russia is increasing the production of weapons, but i came back a few days ago from the paria political committee, which was held in paris, where we had a hearing on the topic of the effectiveness of sanctions, we are working on a resolution, and what is important is that we need to tell our viewers now that in fact the sanctions were

effective the first time until the moment when russia learned to circumvent them, which means that russia continues to do everything to lead aggression, volodymyr zelenskyy said about it today that there are no signals that russia is ready to go to any negotiations there, that this is all a measure. now before how this is all perceived. abroad, all of this is perceived in such a way that there are no more illusions about putin, there is only a certain fear and ignorance of what will happen in the future in general, as well as everything related to the war, and the future of russia in general, and unfortunately, there are no answers to the questions , what will happen to russia if russia either disintegrates or some processes take place inside russia, and there is a certain fear, really... as well as in open discussions, as well as in closed ones, very often, when not a person from the politics of another

country, does not have a very thorough understanding of what russia thinks, how russia thinks, sometimes there are, sometimes naive phrases that maybe russia will one day stop, but in general in the last two years these illusions have already passed, it was two years. therefore, when it was always quite open from the side of different countries, different politicians, where we ukrainians were always told that we need to have some kind of dialogue with russia, now this is no longer the case. but unfortunately, there is also no understanding of the future of russia, and that is why they are now trying to invite the russian pseudo-opposition quite strongly, that is, it is either some representatives who have been living abroad from russia for a very long time, or on the contrary, they have a rather sad and doubtful opposition

position, and as we know that... what russian an oppositionist ceases to be an oppositionist when the ukrainian question begins, that is why there is work to be done, unfortunately, we also know that when russia continues, for example, to conduct nuclear terror and talk about nuclear weapons, that this is real scares the europeans, different countries and... they are starting to talk a little differently, but there are no illusions yet, but there is also no plan for the great future of russia, when something will happen there. thank you for your response, after a short break, friends, we will return to

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live and on tv on espresso tv and on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us on these platforms, please like this video and vote in our poll. today we ask you about this, do you trust president zelensky? yes, no, quite a simple question, there are two possible answers, you can leave your comments under the video on youtube, if you watch us on tv, take it in your hand. phone and vote if you trust the voting phone 0800 211 381 not 0800 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free... free of charge at the end of the program we will sum up this voting. today, during the final press conference, volodymyr zelenskyi also spoke about the topic of mobilization,

according to him, the commanders of the supreme commander-in-chief approached him about this , and they offered to mobilize about 500,000 people. let's listen to what zelensky said. the issue is very sensitive, i... they asked about the defense of our state and potential counteroffensive actions, about the deficit, and their view was on the stake that they proposed to mobilize an additional 450-500 thousand people, this is a very serious number, i said that... i need more arguments in order to support this direction, because this is a question first of all of people, the second is a question of justice, it is a question

of defense capability and a question of finances. ms. victoria, i am addressing victoria syumar, here zelenskyi is now speaking, referring to the military, although zelenskyi is the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine, and in principle he should have... a political position on mobilization, if he spoke there today, he denied these fakes, what not there will be mobilization of women, because in fact there is no such bill, and no one was going to mobilize women, someone just threw it into the information space, this is how i understand this topic, then with regard to mobilization , the commander-in-chief should have a clear position here, he should not refer there to the general staff or to the head of the... because this question is generally political, i.e. whether to open this great mobilization or not , and the answer to whether to open or not to open is a question of whether there will be

ukraine or there will be no ukraine. why zelenskyi? in your opinion avoids this, well direct direct answer to this question? i think that i will not surprise anyone when i say that this is an electorally unpopular issue, of course, because if in the armed forces. 1 million , well, there are much more voters outside the armed forces, but let's talk about the problem itself, about political responsibility in reality, because after all, the political leadership defines the tasks for the military, and if this task sounds like the liberation of ukrainian territory completely to the borders, but obviously 91 of the year, it is clear what to oppose more numerous russian army. well, we need people, these are supposedly logical things, so it seems to me that the military makes these calculations in view of the tasks clearly

set by the higher political leadership, and certainly for these tasks and for the resources necessary for this, well, the responsibility should not be to be afraid to take it upon yourself, as surely as for other decisions, which may not be particularly popular there either, you know, we are now in that period of time, serhiy, when here it is either about politics or about the state, and it will not work here they will sweat, you know, for populism to be combined with such crazy challenges, you are right that you need to speak honestly with people, in fact, and you need to learn this, and this is clearly not helped by the only marathon, which even a year and a half ago told that russia is there chmobic yes, the russian army, they don’t know how to fight , and things like that, and we’ll be there in two or three weeks, and then to the crimea until there, i don’t

know, until the end of the year we’ll drink coffee, everyone booked tickets, i understand everything, i don't understand the importance of not losing such an emotion there important, yes patriotic, it is important not to really lose the national spirit, but besides that , we must also talk about losses, because we... bear and a lot of losses , of course, there are wounded people who simply cannot be active soldiers anymore, and for sure it was also necessary to communicate with people, so that now they should be explained why it is necessary to replace people in the army and why not everyone there can be at the front, that is why the problems are difficult, and that is why i started, in fact, talk about the government of national unity, and about finding others of possible solutions, now it's about... only the search, and in order to still think more about the preservation of statehood, you are absolutely right, this is exactly what is at stake, and, unfortunately, i think we cannot

say clearly. .. that we have already solved this problem forever, the threats are extremely serious, you have heard putin, his statements, you understand that the elections in russia will take place against the background of military escalation in ukraine, we understand that russia has human resources , well, much larger than in ukraine, and that russia has established the necessary production military elements, and even half-breeds. they have always had the production of missiles, which we do not have ballistic missiles, armored vehicles, we can talk about this for a long time here, comparing our capabilities and russian capabilities, but again, for us, this means making unpopular decisions and taking political responsibility for them. well, by the way, you mentioned russia, today the minister of defense, or rather, the minister of attack of the russian federation, serhiy shuigu, announced the increase in the number of the armed forces

of the russian federation to one and a half. millions military personnel let's hear what shaygu said. in proportion to external threats, the number of armed forces will be increased to one and a half million servicemen in the future. in 2023, all planned measures of operational combat training were completed, including 17 international exercises of various levels. mr. yaroslav, viktoria says that it is necessary to communicate with society and inform. the truth or to speak in an adult manner to society, you cannot constantly tell society what society only wants to hear, that the war will end there in two or three months, that the war will end in crimea in august of the 23rd, whether we will enter the crimean peninsula in the fall of the 23rd, how do you assess the work of the media in this situation, which in principle are

still between the authorities and... society, and the media , the main media in the state, we have already mentioned the single telethon, and it obviously fulfilled some of its mission, is there now this honest dialogue that victoria syumar is talking about, and do you have any comments to a single telethon and in general to how it works the only big information machine in ukraine? and of course there are, i have already emphasized them several times , i believe that if in our country viewers from a single marathon flee to - anonymous telegram channels, then there must be a reason for this, that is, there is a lack of efficiency, efficiency, quality, so there is a balance, there is different slots of a single marathon, if we talk, for example, about the public slot, then independent monitoring, the media detector notes the balance of the position, as

, for example, means the balance of the positions, well, there is also in espresso, yes, but unfortunately not in cable broadcasting, so it is not in the public domain, so there are definitely issues that need to be taken into account, there is the issue of the efficiency of using resources for this marathon, and there is the issue, for example, of what we have due to the regulation of access to information about the war, and this it is not the responsibility of the commander-in-chief, but very often actually... the military itself, the presence of our international partners is decreasing in our country, and it is also becoming a matter of national security, because they are beginning to talk less about us, we, if we were not there, if it were not cynical sounded, but the war in ukraine competes with hamas's attack on israel, with the situation earlier in nagorno -karabash and the like, that is, there should be a very strategic approach to

understanding who...communicates, what they communicate, how they communicate, and so that communication has been as efficient as possible and i think that actually i would like to just respond to the issue of mobilization, hardly anyone has more expertise in terms of the need for mobilization than the military, and there are several factors that we don't talk about very often right now, we will never live up to russia in terms of the number of mobilized people, it is physically impossible for us, and the only option to equalize the situation is either better weapons, and this is effective work by the west, and here it is very important to note that a lot of work is being done, but also it might be better here, or else everyone will really fight, and all representatives of the government should honestly say this, without hiding their eyes, not revealing any pitfalls and the like, because as