tv [untitled] December 20, 2023 12:30pm-1:01pm EET
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the maid under the table, well, let's be honest, it's not in the commander-in-chief's headquarters, it's in a completely different room, which he hasn't been in for a long time, and it belongs to his assistants, because it actually happened there, it's hard to say and orientate now, the investigation is underway , it is necessary to clearly understand that this is truly an extraordinary situation, starting with the fact that it became the property of the public... and first of all , the media, this is what surprised most of all, and ending with the fact that they in general, well, that she i ended up there at all, nothing extraordinary, i won’t say what happened there , that is, thank god that it was discovered before someone conducted or tried to conduct something there, that is, we did not have any information leaks, secret, non-secret, none at all, this firstly, secondly, why did i
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still lean towards the version that it was some kind of internal showdown, because it seemed to me that it was absurd to install a device that had no means of power supply, no means of ensuring that it transmitted something to someone, not the means, especially the means of recording, that is, it actually was imitation of the device, but i would like to hear her... the conclusions of the examination, which, i hope, will be quite professional, because this is a criminal proceeding within the competence of the security service, there is a special institute of examinations and a special institute of special equipment, which will clearly consider all this and will give a conclusion about what it is and where it came from, let's listen very briefly to what he said about the serviceman, the attempt about... listening to the
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room where the head of the armed forces of ukraine was supposed to work, or his assistants, because he also talked about that , which he also had there to be , and his assistants, we have valery zaluzhny’s synchronism, please give it, that is, it is not your permanent one, but we understand it that way, she is a bulabochka, where i work, and in one of them, we may not have been there for a long time, but they checked it, and this may mean that it is not only me. i'm sorry, but this could mean that in the general staff itself, that is, there should have been someone who we have been working for a long time, how do you consider it, as a war, that is, it is one of the aspects of waging war, please, anything can be, the investigation will prove that is, it was an office where you were supposed to cross over today, you were supposed to go there in the morning, and you did, mr. general, but
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in 30 years of independence, actually, in 32 years of independence, i don't remember a single case when the one who eavesdropped from the one who was eavesdropped , would answer in court for what he said, or he illegally recorded his information, and why is this happening in our country, in your opinion, it is not true, who, who, if not so, then please tell me, i just i don't remember, but i know that... there were criminal proceedings, they did not concern the higher-ups officials, they were more concerned with the fact that illegal eavesdropping was used by private structures, in particular pseudo-security, there by detective structures, and this information was revealed, and the equipment was seized , and there were criminal proceedings, and there were investigations, and there were sentences, confiscation of this equipment , that is... the security service
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had quite a lot to do during this time, it is clear that we did not hear those loud conclusions of some kind, for example, what i mentioned there, well, we had the loudest one, it was connected with kuchma, but of these the most those, probably this is an attempt to listen to the head of sab, if i'm not mistaken, that's the case, you know in... probably in some moments those who tried tried to listen, got out on their own, well , i don't think it's this one the case we are talking about, well, in this case, when there is a war, it is clear that the answer must be correct, precisely so, because if this information has already been made public, and it has become known to the citizens, then the citizens will demand some kind of answer, especially since... they are now being actively used
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russian propaganda, well, it's clearly not in our interests. thank you, mr. general, now we will have our journalist dmytro didora, who was at the... press conference of volodymyr zelenskyi and asked the head of the ukrainian state a question: dmytro, i congratulate you, tell me about your impressions of the press conference, because that , what we saw on the screen, well, actually, we obviously have some conclusions of our own, what conclusions did you come to, watching the two-hour marathon of questions and answers with the participation of zelenskyi and journalists. i congratulate serhiy and ours viewers, congratulations, the final press conference of the president really lasted two hours, 200 journalists, photographers, cameramen were present here today, more than 120 media, in particular , among these media there were telegram channels, such
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as, more precisely, i will not advertise them, but there were certain anonymous telegram channels, to which the press secretary of the president noted that ukrainians now very often... consume news content precisely from telegram, so they decided to invite such representatives to share with their audience what what did the president say today, and he spoke a lot, for two hours, about international support and internal ukrainian issues, and about defense, and about the military, and about mobilization, so i will start with mobilization, says president zelenskyi, that he... offered him to mobilize from 400 to 500,000 people to the front, however, zelensky noted that he needed additional arguments and also said that for these people , an additional 3 million people are needed, who
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will pay taxes, since we pay the salaries of our soldiers. taxpayers, those who are not currently at the front, he said. and that ukraine will receive international support for several patriot and nasams systems, this year he says about the help of the usa and the european union that he is sure that the usa will not betray us, about the eu he says that there were big stakes, they played at big stakes and have achieved one victory over 50 billion, i am sure that they will achieve such a question with the european one. union, spoke today about orban, asked him why he does not support ukraine, and he does not supports the ukrainian issue, i want to hear in more detail what the president answered, however , he says that regarding the negotiations between, if orban
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did not agree on the negotiations between him and the president of the russian federation, they also talked about trump today, they mentioned him if he becomes the next. the president of the united states of america, said that president zelensky said that support for ukraine will not change, but trump is a different person and he may behave completely differently, but he is sure that the us support for ukraine will not change, and noted that with the head of the armed forces zaluzhnym of the forces of ukraine, he has a working relationship, and did not comment on the dismissal. but in the coma there was no such concept of the question and the answer to the question was very blurred, we asked and we asked our question on the spreso tv channel about displaced people, people who are currently abroad, who are in ukraine, the president assured that within
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ukraine, support for internally displaced persons will not decrease, the president said about people who went abroad. and what exactly did the president answer us, let's hear, about plural citizenship, i spoke even before the start of a full-scale war, it was in our program, i really think that it is normal, i think that there are really 60 million ukrainians, it is true in the world, and not all of them necessarily live in ukraine, they have a history, they have their families, someone was born there in canada, in the united states, but give them the opportunity to support ukraine. to feel that they are ukrainians, to help, to open businesses here, to pay some taxes, etc., all this definitely goes to the advantage of ukraine, and therefore it is necessary to think about it for a moment, just a moment, it's important, you don't need to overheat
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this issue, but you also can't too soon, there are subtle issues in multiple citizenship, i would like people abroad, especially... women, children, to hear this, so that they , when they get a job, so what, and find a new life there, so that they do not rush. to renounce the citizenship of our state, this is what the president mentioned regarding multiple citizenship, and he also said that ukrainians will begin to return to ukraine when air defense is strengthened here and when the support of the european union, the countries of the european union to our immigrants will decrease, the president promised that in... next year we will produce 1 million drones, we are talking about combat drones, and he said that
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the process of exchanging prisoners of war with the russian federation is being slowed down because of the russian federation, however , volodymyr zelenskyi announced a big exchange , he did not mention anything else, because it is necessary , it is necessary to keep quiet about it, the president talked about a lot, i don’t have enough airtime to tell everything, so... that’s all i remembered, and i will give you ether, serhii. we already told dmytro about this on our broadcast. thank you for including you, it was dmytro didora, our correspondent. well, actually, we have general viktor yagun on the phone, we will now ask him about this multiple citizenship, which volodymyr zelenskyi said. well, it's obviously about two or three citizenships, i don't know, it's hard for me to say anything at the moment , well, from what the president said, i... understand, it's about people who will get citizenship , those who went from
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escaped from the war and will acquire citizenship, that in principle they will be able to retain their ukrainian citizenship, did i understand correctly, mr. generals, well, it is difficult to say anything now, because it is necessary to make changes to the constitution, and it is such a slow and very difficult task, to conduct it, i just want to remind you that... there is the experience of israel itself, which uses this opportunity, and it actively uses its diaspora, we have an equally huge diaspora, and you remember how poroshenko stood question and yushchenko was faced with the question of how to attract our diaspora, in particular from the states there , from great britain, from canada in the first place , probably so that they could actively work in
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the government there without losing their... well, their citizenship in those countries, but having ukrainian , in public positions, the situation , for example, in israel, when on the 7th-10th, there was a call to return, to defend the homeland, and a lot of citizens of the united states, from other countries, with israeli passports, dual citizenship, came as reservists to fight, i.e. there is a positive experience. need it study and it is clear that it is necessary to make safeguards against the country of the aggressor, against those countries that treat us with enmity, to prevent the use of this mechanism for e-machinations, we have experience with some persons from the middle east who actively used this mechanism for obtaining ukrainian citizenship. that is, there is a need to calculate it all clearly, but
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i think that there is also something positive in that, mr. general, on the day when volodymyr zelensky actually held a big press conference, volodymyr putin announced that russia, according to him, is the only guarantor of ukraine's sovereignty and integrity. let's listen to what putin said. russia was the only guarantor of ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity. when russia created the soviet union, it simply handed over, together with the population, huge historical territories of russia, huge potential and invested colossal resources in this entire territory. и западные земли украины, well... mr. general, considering
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what putin says, he always lies and tries to interpret history according to his own patterns, but judging by what he says, does this mean that he both perceived ukraine and continues to do so. to be perceived as part of russia, part of the russian federation, it means that he is ready for our land and fight with ukrainians to the very end. exactly. for him, ukraine does not exist as a state , including belarus does not exist as a state, armenia, georgia and other states that appeared on the territory of the former soviet union do not exist as states. all that he now, for example, why he does not want the complete
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destruction of ukraine, in some way, he wants to control kyiv and... marinetka and the government, this is also because, like the soviet union , it is beneficial for them to have one more voice in the un, which would support their crazy ideas. now , belarus is doing this alone, well, there are a couple of them besides their posikpaks, it seems as if ukraine, such a great european state, should support all this madness, so they will not have in their plans to make ukraine a pickle state. landlocked, but completely controlled by them, that's it, listening to this delusion, you know, i know, i think that someday on the ukrainian-chinese border we will remember all this as an anecdote, but from what putin and shaigu say, this means that
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they are ready to throw into the crucible of war, well, everything they have, actually their human... the resource is much greater than in ukraine, obviously the military resource is much greater now than in ukraine, under what conditions can ukraine win victory over russia, under the conditions of unity, political and other, unity, exclusive unity, what we was not enough in the 20s of the 20th century. we didn't have support of the west and we did not have unity in our ranks, and this allowed russian, well , soviet russia to conquer the ukrainian people's republic, that's all. and it is clear that when putin says that we will abide by our commitments or our
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plans to carry out a so-called special military operation, regarding denazification. this means that the war in ukraine will continue, and he will not accept any other options than the surrender of ukraine, right? that's right, but how can it be, if they are now emphasizing that military actions are taking place on the territory of the russian federation, they are all this territory, all the lands that are happening now, a direct clash, according to their constitution... the territory of the russian federation, why did they include these territories, not only to put their paw on our territory , and to be able to use internal legislation in the territory of military operations, to use conscripts, if god forbid something like this happens,
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to use tactical nuclear weapons, which is written in their concept, that for the protection of one's own sovereignty, and they are everywhere... that we did not attack anyone, our military operations are taking place on the territory of the russian federation, well, formally according to their signs, but we attacked the russian federation and are trying to seize the regions that are included in their constitution in their composition, such an absurdity now, but they live in that absurdity and they believe in it, so listening to delusions from this person somehow, you know, is not... to consider yourself. thank you, mr. general, this was sbu general in reserve viktor yagun, former deputy head of the security service of ukraine. friends, we work in live broadcast of the espresso tv channel, we are also on youtube and facebook. for those who are currently watching the broadcast on youtube and facebook, please like this video, subscribe to our pages on these
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platforms, and take part in our vote, because we are having a big vote today, because today is green day. zelenskyi's big day and the annual two-hour press conference of the ukrainian head of state ended literally 40 minutes ago, so we ask you the following: do you trust president zelenskyi? yes, no, if you trust, then call 0800-211-381, no, 0800-211-382, all calls to these numbers are free, on youtube everything is quite simple, you choose options either yes or no, eh , or write your comment. under this video, why are we asking about this, because just a few days ago we conducted a survey on the trust of the head of the armed forces of ukraine valery zaluzhny, if rating companies and... biological companies can conduct such surveys, well, actually , we, as a tv channel, can too conduct such poll. next, we have oleksandr musienko, director of the center for military legal
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studies, in contact. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you and thank you for joining our broadcast today. i congratulate you. well, obviously, you watched zelensky's press conference and you have your own impressions. what do you think of today's zelensky and his annual results? well, it's fine in principle. let's say yes, yes, as the president answers, he answered that way, the questions were not easy, difficult, and the press conference itself was basically the same, but we heard certain answers, then everyone can to form my impression, i have a completely normal impression of what happened, i heard some explanations, some, maybe i would like to hear more in depth, but understanding that he will limit the time of the press conference. obviously understandable reasons for the load on the schedule , etc., so it seems to me that it is quite normal, it just depends on the specific issues,
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then you can evaluate more deeply, but in general , there are acute questions about aid to ukraine, and about hostilities, and about the year 2024, which it maybe, and about mobilization, we heard all that, well we also heard zelenskyi's answers regarding... the attacks or attacks of marina bezuglai , a deputy from the servant of the people, if we have the synchronization ready, i am now turning to our editors, we will now hear what zelenskyi said, because it is very important, during the last two months we watched how there were claims from the pro-government force, the force of the servant of the people, forgive me and what mariana bezuglava wrote, those who have facebook obviously also saw it. repeatedly, because it was quoted and paid a lot of attention, including on various tv channels. let's listen to what he said volodymyr zelenskyi. mr. zaluzhnyi is also my
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representative, as well as all those whom i appointed or who came with me, someone, someone i am very grateful for, someone i am ashamed of, and as for any... comments on facebook, i'm sorry, i don't do that , i don't have time, i don't have time for daily, daily, daily these unnecessary dialogues, fruitless, and as for maryana, they have several more people there. where it is very difficult, they all really like to comment, like, on facebook, they often communicate there, they have dialogues, they
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in the first days, then they go to the front together, then they quarrel, these are difficult questions , to be honest with me, that’s why i told you, it seems to me that we all need to give results to the state every day, and we will have time for a selfie, mr. alexander, is this enough ... answers in order to say that there are no issues at all between zelenskyi and zaluzhny, well , at least such fundamental ones that would simply prevent them from cooperating, or at least that we see this conflict between the civilian and military leadership there, about which, by the way the economist also wrote, no, well, there are questions , there are working relations, as the president said, and obviously there are also working questions, and well, you heard that in fact the commander-in-chief... yesterday , the commander-in-chief of the armed forces , general zaluzhnyi, spoke about the mobilization, as on me, well, let's say, somewhat contradictory
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, statements about the need to return the old system, well, let's say , especially, probably, to mention the odesa military commissariat, i would not like to return such to professionals in quotes, well, today we heard from the president of ukraine, what is needed... a mobilization plan is needed, certain working points need to be coordinated, in my opinion, it seems to me that there are certain points that are not coordinated, and it is clear that when it comes to calling up and mobilizing 500 thousand citizens, it is definitely necessary to explain for what specific goals tasks, and it does not need to be explained to maryana bezuglii, nor to me, nor to anyone else, and also, it is obviously necessary, although the president also told society, i think so, but it needs to be explained. at the rate of the supreme commander-in-chief, for which purposes, tasks and plan for the use of troops, i understood that there is a certain hundred percent agreement on this issue today.
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no, you heard, the general staff was named, the commander-in-chief was named , and the commander of the operational-strategic grouping of tavria troops was named, as far as i understand, there may be some questions from the point of view, well, in general, you understand, now there will be questions, because now in any - in any case, it is in the interests of everyone, and the commander-in-chief, and the commander-in-chief of the entire ukrainian army, and us of the ukrainian people, obviously, that the professionals, the people who are responsible for this... conducted an analysis of the counteroffensive actions, which was done very correctly, because there are successes, in my opinion, in at least two of the three elements, this is the counteroffensive, this is exhaustion of russian troops and not giving them the opportunity to conduct large-scale offensive actions, i believe that this is a success, just like the war at sea, but of course, that there is a question about the liberated territories, it did not turn out as expected, and therefore now i think
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that. .. there are many questions surrounding this, plus the west asks to explain, you know, that now for the purpose of coordination and improvement of cooperation, the united states is sending us a corresponding mission, because they were apparently somewhat dissatisfied with the coordination of communication that was from both our general staff and them, which washington wrote about the post is about this, so there are certain questions, but i would say that they really, in my opinion, have such a working character, that's all... and you can work really and normally on all of this. mr. oleksandr, i also wanted to ask you about putin's statements today, because putin today, together with shoigu, they talked about the successes in the war against ukraine, and of course, for the second time in a few days, putin says that russia does not want to go to war with nato countries, although they constantly talk about it. walking partners
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joseph biden, the president of the united states of america and defense minister pistorius of germany say that it is necessary to prepare for war with the russian federation. let's hear what the president of russia said. that's if nato, that's if it 's in ukraine now, then russia will win, the next nato countries, why do we need these countries nato, we never needed them, we never needed happiness. they won't be needed in the future, but why do they say that, to encourage them to pay money, that's why. putin , i always repeat, always lies, but when he lies , these are still some signs for the world, because a man who has nuclear weapons, a man who has an army, a large army, maybe it is not so modernized, although shoigu talked about that their army is now the most armed and
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most modern as it goes. war in ukraine, in your opinion, is there now? reasons for europeans to take care of their security and take certain steps, that is , based on what pistorius says, for 57 years, but during this period, as the german minister of defense says, we need to prepare for a possible attack or for a possible conflict with the russian federation. i think so, now there are real steps that... need to be taken, what impresses me is that the minister of defense of germany, he also talks about the fact that now it is very important to support ukraine, which, as a matter of fact, today europe has to play a certain role, to be ready, that if suddenly the united states reduces some period of support, to provide this support and at least partially compensate, this is a very important point, and this is a transformation, in fact, a significant approach on
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the part of germany, this is very important. from the point of view of the fact that the security of the eastern flank of nato is currently being strengthened, germany also plays a role in this, because literally on december 18, the day before, the corresponding protocol was signed on the plans to deploy another brigades of germany in lithuania, and there it is very well welcomed in lithuania, and well, let's say so, they expect it, well, it should happen during 2024, and in general, from what is visible, today finland is very significantly strengthened, you see that the finns, in parallel with the entry into nato, this was not enough for them, and they, in addition, signed a separate agreement with the united states, which gave, this agreement gave the opportunity to use finnish airfields and ports for american planes and ships , respectively, that is, more to intensify.
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