these breakthroughs, well, at least, for example, well, if there were only shells for a counteroffensive in the south, so it is unlikely that there can be any number here, what happened there, well, that’s enough, this story will constantly hang over us, that we we need at least millions of projectiles, we need to get them somewhere, we need to make them somewhere, and roughly speaking, i don’t even know, probably already in the navy, even at the stage of the post-war reconstruction of the armed forces of ukraine , we will still face the question of not having enough projectiles. according to our regulatory needs, but is it possible? to completely replace these soviet-style projectiles with nato-style weapons , but today, well, let's put it this way , estonian intelligence believes that we have up to 200 artillery systems, well, this is what estonian intelligence believes, i don't know where they got it, but even if we start from such numbers, well, in the best case, we have, well, even less...

as far as i remember, there were trophy guns, but there the potential is very limited. we have just that, and the problem is that, on the one hand, as much as an artist needs a caliber of 155 mm, no one in the world has it, even china has a maximum of 600 of them, and on the other hand, we cannot replace the soviet-style artillery systems with anything, so sometimes in our troops, for example, in territorial defense , new drones can coexist, in general , the d-44 gun of the 1950s. it's clear, and you still have a few minutes left there. uh, tell me about this

particular offensive, which the russians have just staged near novomykhaivka. well, this is a popular opinion, and when we presented the map, it was said that it was a threat primarily to the coal miner, but somehow it was not revealed this topic, because where novomykhaivka is far enough to the east, ugledar to the south, what exactly is the threat there, why do we, when we say that there is an offensive near nomomykhaivska russia? this is an attempt to do something with the coal star, why do we say that, what is the point? well, to be honest, i think that to begin the offensive, well , the attempts of the russians to attack the mykhailivka billion, is to try to take our defenders of mariinka in a pinch, well, because there it is clearly at the pace at which the russian army is advancing now, well, it is clearly not going there about there they are, well, the russians have the ability to break through our defenses near novomykhaivka and thus quickly go there to... or to

kostantinivka, or there to ugledar, here i think, in principle, that what concerns the general assessment of the situation in front, it is necessary to pay attention to the following: on the one hand , the russians set themselves very ambitious large-scale tasks for this winter, but we all discussed the prospect of, for example, fighting for kupyansk in the summer, and it was important for the russians to take kupyansk, so that to be able to advance in the east, they had a deadline of december 31 to occupy this donetsk region. they did not succeed , we can trace, at the same time we can trace that now the russians, carrying out all these infantry assaults, began to more actively use storm z, the so-called, well, that is, we can say that in some ways we have experienced, well, more precisely, the russians have experienced a reincarnation the tool of the wagner pmc, well , that is, as it were, if you think in retrospect , it turns out that the wagner pmc allowed the russians to somehow save the cadre army they had, to let it recover from the defeats of 2022 year, accordingly... to prepare for the campaign

of 2023, but judging by everything, the main problem at the front that is happening now is not even where the russians have any prospects for promotion or not, but the fact that they we also went to this game in order to use these stormtroopers, prisoners , in order to bind and exhaust our troops, and at the same time train our personnel, when we talk about the year 2024, we only think in one category, whether putin will announce mobilization there, but let's not take into account that putin intends to... to reformat the personnel troops that are there, to increase their fighting capacity , that's the main problem, well , roughly speaking, not that how realistic it is that the russians from nova mykhailivka will go to ugledar, it's that they are already trying in this way just to buy time, well, to improve the combat capability of your personnel army, how far this will turn out, of course , is an open question, but it’s just important here, looking at the tactical situation, well, first of all, to take into account the strategic problem that frustrates us, uh, thank you, this is ivan kirichevsky, military expert of the federal tax service. express, now we have to

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where are you going, come on, chris, so for the chronicles of the war, we continue the conversation, andrii gukka joins us. captain of the medical service of the offensive guard brigade boreviy, neurosurgeon, candidate of medical sciences. i congratulate you, mr. andriy. good evening, well, actually, the russians have already

been trying to storm in the direction of sankivka and serebryansk forestry for quite a long time, well , actually, they are all around the front, which is conventionally called the lemano-kupyansky front. and we know more about the fact that they are armored groups there they go in the direction of synkivka and somehow , well, they go in and out, to put it mildly, those who may still go out, but here’s the thing... it’s happening in the srebynsk forestry, we know a little less, could you give us some more details about it tell? i can tell you exactly what i can tell, i congratulate everyone once again, the stupid thing is that everything is very simple, it is important to understand that there is a significant preponderance. in manpower and resources, in technology, including

arterial support, and this, i am not talking about drones, so the situation is difficult, our forces defense, and you know that it is not only the armed forces, but also the national guard, the national... the police and special operations forces are doing everything to, unfortunately, neutralize, i would say, dispose of, by the way, our brigade the offensive guard, that's what it's called , stands for storm, it's a disposal brigade, disposal of the russian military , which we successfully do, i can't tell you anything more... because they are attacking with all possible types of weapons, and unfortunately, they don't

stop trying capture as many of our positions as possible. well, as for sinkivka, the russians still tried to make it to putin's press conference by december 14, but they failed to do so, and even on the 14th, there was such an attempt by the revk company-tactical armored group with the support of tanks from the forest, this is not exactly your direction, but at least something similar, and so on december 15-16 they continued these attempts, changing our advanced positions with the aim taking them into a ring, occupied the village, they tried syankivka, it did not work, 90% of it was destroyed. the armor of the armored group, and hence each reinforcement, including assault groups, in the future

was destroyed in principle, but this does not mean that the russians did not succeed in making a little progress , they succeeded, it must be said, no, no, not significantly, and how, after all, from your point of view, uh, these attempts of the russians, on these and in serebryansk forestry, in the direction of senkivka, have been going on for a very, very long time, well, well, since the summer actually. what is the, well, you know, how to say , the reason why they don't succeed, is there successful fortifications, or not enough of them , ultimately, not enough of their efforts, how would you describe it, well, i described, starting from the sources, from february 24, 2022, you know that all respectable... analysts gave one hundred percent predictions that kyiv would not

hold out for a maximum, if not three days, then a week or two weeks, and kyiv would be taken, because it's no longer a secret, and leading analysts have actually acknowledged it, that only because of the maddening resistance that's happening on the part of our defense forces, due to the fact that... um, well, it's our land, and uh, it's not a cliché, we cannot be given a single meter, nor a single 100 m of our land, because unfortunately, we are beautiful we understand, and the whole world understood that, even conditionally in the sick imagination of a cerebral dwarf , the exit on the territory of the donetsk luhansk region. this can only be imagined by a sick imagination, today i spoke with our brothers,

everyone is ready to stand as long as there is such an opportunity, and such an opportunity, thank god, still exists, due to the fact that there is an inner core, due to the fact that , that we still understand what we are fighting for and why we are fighting, and recently i really liked one such collage that you can't see... you will be able to see on terenakh, when, social networks, when ukraine now imagines a bean that closes all. europe, that's how it is, and now this direction on which we are standing, this is an umbrella that covers our entire state and further from the influx, and they work according to the same tactics that were from the very beginning, efforts to destroy our anti-aircraft forces,

anti-aircraft forces, to prevent us from using drones, here unfortunately the situation is so far... in our direction, only thanks to our fpv drone operators we pull out because, well, again, this is not a computer game, this is a survival game, so everyone who is currently in the trenches understands this very well, who knows from my brothers, i feel it myself, because instead of three days there are seven and 10 virgins, 10 days in the positions. but it is worth it, as our brothers tell me, you are coming to a completely different space, to the space of a free person and a free ukraine, is it worth it? well , thank you, ihor varchenko, also a serviceman of the armed forces, an expert on national security, has joined us, and let's continue

a little bit of this conversation, we have already started talking about the real thing. at the battle in the kupyansk-lyman direction and now they talked a little about the avdiiv direction and in particular about general ternavskyi's assessment of what is happening there, he is responsible for this direction and with the previous guest they talked about what ternavskyi's statement about the lack of ammunition means of the soviet model, but i would like to ask you a different question, mr. ivan, to take a slightly different approach. aspect, ternavskyi also emphasized that today we have certain difficulties with personnel the composition that we have on the front lines, they are not so fresh, they are not so rested, he said, and the main thing, he said, every commander should have a reserve, and i understand that there is a certain problem in this, because we see that

the russians have accumulated reserves of manpower and are quite, well, you know... merciless to their fighters, but nevertheless, they maneuver them, they use them, and there were such assessments that, unfortunately, we really and ternavskyi also mentioned that we have a problem here, what exactly is the problem, or can you explain these words when he said that the commander should have a reserve, why did he mention this, well, not only ternavskyi. i mentioned this , i must confess here, yes, good day to you all, glory to ukraine, glory to the heroes, it is mentioned, it is mentioned repeatedly, all ukrainian military commanders, commanders, commanders, what we need, we need people, we need fighters , we need military personnel who are able to

hold weapons in their hands to fight now, as well as those that are needed for security. strings strings other tasks that stand here, not necessarily with a machine gun in the advanced trenches, but this is a large number of tasks, including those that give the opportunity to hit the enemy, for example, the same operators, as well as other strike drones, reconnaissance operators, ultimately in the artillery fighters are needed, that is, a number of military... professions, this is what ukraine hopes for and what ukraine must provide for the further effective protection of its territory. no wonder, during war, that people get tired, and in the end we suffer losses, and this is also the harsh truth of war.

of course, it is necessary to have the opportunity to rest those fighters who are on the front lines. had the opportunity to take a breather in order to then rush into battle with new forces, and of course, this also requires additional fresh forces, whether you asked a lot or not , so why is this question in ukraine, attracting additional reserves, mobilizing additional reserves, and compared to russia, russia is simply a bigger country, almost four times more. than ukraine in terms of population, and it is clear that russians have that cynical attitude to life and health their citizens, of course they are. partly enable us to be effective and very effective in destroying their manpower, it's good that we value our fighter, it's good that we

're not tempted by the commanders to try to play the same game, baba and what's offensive, that the russians keep playing, we appreciate our soldiers, we always understand that this is the highest, that this is the highest value, and it is the ukrainian soldiers who must... survive and win this war, therefore, of course, there is a question, the question of mobilization, it is always on the agenda daily, we will not have the opportunity to compensate for it in any other way than to carry out these mobilization measures now, but within the limits of mobilization measures, of course , first of all, there must be arguments that call a person to defend his homeland, and it must not be because of... fear, it must be because of the understanding that it is your forces that ukrainians need now at the front, if you have the opportunity to hold a weapon in your hands, or have

the opportunity to be directly involved in the defense forces of ukraine in another way. mr. andriy, you are a doctor and you know, i would like everything well, ideally, you would somehow explain, well, even with the example of where your in... actually the brigade is located in the silver forestry, how many people can be there, for example, on the front lines, for days, a week, how many, after how many people are needed take her to some deeper rear so that she rests, after how much a person should be allowed to go on vacation and how much, somehow you have some idea of ​​how it should be in general, i only have an idea. and it has a scientific basis for this, ah, taking advantage of the opportunity of our cooperation with the nato army,

army of israel and other countries of the world , i can say that this is already determined from both a psychological and a physiological point of view , the term of rotation is two months, and you know that according to, for example, by the way, according to israeli standards, i am talking about military medics, the rotation period can be increased to three months, that is, after three months a person must change his environment to a more comfortable one than the one that is, we are now talking about advanced units that are in the immediate vicinity or on the line of contact, well, but here directly, when a person goes, well, such a thing now a continuous non-stop battle. as long as a person can be in it, if necessary , he can be until victory, well, he can’t be, all the same, but when he sits

in the trench, everything flies at him, these are some, well, probably days, all the same, well i said about it, it 's 60-90 days, uh, but we already have units that are already here for 60 days, and you understand, this is a purely physiological situation, when... there is a certain reserve of the body, which can be kept for 60, a maximum of 90 days, then not when uncomfortable in a chronic state stress, everyone is in a state of chronic stress, the influence of adverse factors, especially now the weather has been added, now you know that there is a constant use of chemical weapons by our enemy, including. bombs with the use of phosphorus, as well as poisonous substances, at least the use of chlorpicril, gas has been proven, all this

leads to the fact that the adaptive capabilities of the body are sharply reduced, plus low air temperature, plus high humidity, and this leads, unfortunately, to very serious consequences that we face each time day that is, from 60 to 90 days is a physiologically justified period of stay in those conditions, in combat conditions, after which for at least one month, and preferably for two, if the situation allows, the advanced units should be rotated, ugh, and look, mr. ivan , then this will be a question for you, rather, when we are talking about the need for additional mobilization of people, we understand that even if we made this decision politically now, finally everything

was signed there, what is needed, somehow.. . there was an additional mobilization, these people tomorrow on the front lines will not appear, because they need at least, well, two, preferably a little more, and maybe a lot more time to prepare in general in order to introduce them into some, well, units, in this case, how could it be organized after all this rotation, about which mr. andriy spoke, that is, what would possibly make sense to do now to strengthen... our advanced units, which are in the hottest spots, there avdiyivka, also precisely the kupyansko-lymanskyi direction, well in fact , take any line that starts from kupyansk and ends there in the south, around there, well, the question is what should be done, how could it still be possible to strengthen them, we have a classic

example of how rotation is carried out, in particular , of combat units there during peacetime, these examples are enough, and in world practice, and in ukrainian practice, we have certain standards determined by statutory documents, in particular nato statutes, which are verified from a scientific, psychological , and medical point of view, as a colleague will tell you in more detail... the amount of time a person is able to stay at the front, well, during hostilities actions, of course, during certain or other situations that require tension and are associated with the risk of life and health, as they may threaten combat actions, or are essentially combat actions, when we

are talking about today's ukraine with... of course, these are constant hostilities, and of course, we can talk about classic examples and about any ideal constructions with which you have to throw 100 thousand people there, throw another 100 00 people in the other direction, but now we are definitely talking about not about ideal designs, but about the reality in which one lives ukraine, and the reality is as follows: we have a certain number of people who have taken up arms and are currently carrying out certain actions, he... of the defense of ukraine, these are the defense forces of ukraine, there is a part of people who are in the rear, who work for front, there is, unfortunately, the part that hides from the tasks performed by the country, tries to avoid, avoid, getting to the front and so on, i would share your question, after all, and the answers to what the preparation should be, we

differ a lot... well, what from russia, what they have, getting into one day military man, he dies in the ukrainian front after a week, in our country, despite the fact that, unfortunately, there were cases when a person was quite quickly unprepared and uncoordinated in combat operations, direct combat operations, but these were rather exceptions, and at the moment we understand that there is a standard... course for the training of recruits or newly created units, there is a period of coordination within the unit for a soldier, and accordingly, soldiers who join the army have the opportunity to conduct training for a month or two, and after that they leave already prepared to the place of combat actions and have the opportunity to further gain additional experience there, we do not start from ideal

structures, i... understand now the burden on our military leaders who force, are forced to act in conditions of lack of all resources, including the lack of human resources, and of course goodbye, our time has run out, thank you andrii huk and ivan varchenko, thank you for joining our broadcast, and stay tuned to espresso tv channel, we have more news and many other useful things for you. it's 6 p.m. in ukraine, and to your attention is a news release on the espresso tv channel in the studio.