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talked about the middle east, about that war, which continues there, israel and the gas strip continues to burn, unfortunately. serhii danilov, deputy director of the middle eastern studies center , is already in touch with us. congratulations, mr. serhiy, have a good day. good afternoon, greetings to you, greetings to the audience. mr. sergey, let's start with how it all looks in the flow of information we receive, as information from one war to another country, which is waging a big, biggest war since the second world war, i read. "yeah, well, there is, there is an opportunity to stop fighting for a week, to exchange hostages, some kind of process seems to have been announced, then the next day comes, and we already learn that according to the wall street journal and the jerusalem post, it sounds like the hamas group rejected the offer of the state of israel to stop fighting for a week and exchange hostages , these are such information waves, and what are you behind them."

tell us, well, the negotiations are standing, hamas wants more, they, they actually want to exchange hostages now for a complete ceasefire, for the end of the operation, for them it is catastrophic, they lost the north, yesterday or the day before yesterday, the government quarter in gaza city was finally occupied, all the dungeons were scanned there, again, and hamas has... the option to get the operation completed now to give the hostages, plus they don't want to give men and servicemen. in principle, the israelis offered all women, all, well , conditionally speaking, disabled women, children, older people, to give in this week, because, as far as i understand, in jerusalem they are no longer afraid that in a week hamas. will be able to restore its combat

power, capabilities and restore the very main control of its units, that is why they are already on the wrong side for two or three days, because at first they were very afraid to give more, thinking that hamas would quickly recover, but hamas is negotiating and does not want this, well, the situation is not fully resolved, tonight... there will be a meeting of the military cabinet of israel, where this situation will be considered again, we will see such deletions more than once, sometimes there is, sometimes there is not, sometimes we have agreed, sometimes we have not agreed, mr. serhiu, however, israel further declares that this war will continue until they completely destroy hamas, giving the impression that it is simply their mutual desire to destroy each other to the end. the statement is not

tanyahu, what should he do? well, he declared, he declared , as you think, it will go to the end, it will not go, because we remember that there were repeated recommendations from the states about what... what, to stop, not to go further, not to do that, but that no less, the situation is constantly progressing, right? yes, well, by the way, it's not one nathaniagu, now there is practically a consensus, and among politicians, among the public of israel, that hamas must be destroyed, by the way, with all the statements from the white house, that we must be careful, we must give a corridor. the rules of war must be followed, but there is no questioning the large scale of this goal, i.e. the destruction of hamas power in the gas sector, and if

they at least agree with this on a rhetorical level, although when it comes to its practical implementation, now how about that began in hanyunis hostilities and in general what to do with the south of the sector, no one knows. uh, what to do and what is allowed, what is not allowed, and in fact, israel's actions in the gas sector largely depend on regional dynamics, how much hamas will succeed in destabilizing the west bank, we see the rise of hamas in jenin, there, well on on the west bank of the jordan river, and this is an interesting export, mr. serhiy, i remember at one time... how the palestinians convinced me that they had a different attitude than in the gaza strip on the banks of the jordan river, because they said it's there, they vote for hamas, we don't, and here you talk about a kind of export, there are also things happening here that ukrainians may not fully understand, because, for example, in the gaza strip

, the palestinians lived for quite a long time with non-israeli money in their pockets , and an egyptian passport , and now egypt has been against it for exactly two years, well, just kidding, it is being baptized, and from the palestinians, and we also have a stereotype, because we also strongly believe that if we show, for example , to muscovites, what russian monsters are doing, what crimes, they immediately change, their eyes will open, and they will begin to hate their russian fascist regime, but when the truth is now revealed that hamas has mastered billions, digging various bunkers and tunnels. instead of investing in welfare and life in the gas sector, do the attitudes of ordinary palestinians change, do they stop loving hamas , stop allowing a bunker to be built right under the bedroom of their children in the gas sector, can

the truth about hamas and these thefts of money change the mood in palestine itself? and here a paradoxical situation in fact. mr. roman, hamas was losing, even before october 7, it was losing popularity in the gas sector, where it actually ruled, had all the power, in particular against the background of these stories about billions and how they became bourgeois, how they ceased to be revolutionaries, how they rejected the old ideas about the destruction of israel, focused on their own enrichment and... gas as their own mini-state, so hamas was losing until october 7 and is losing now, obviously in the sector itself, but in a paradoxical way, it is not yet clear to what extent, but with greater

support in the west bank, against the background of the impotence, inability, dysfunctionality of the palestinian authority there, which looks... well, not so determined, not so powerful, to defend the interests of the palestinians as it sees fit arab street, plus a video of the release of prisoners who were exchanged for israeli hostages in gaza, the vast majority of those released from prison are... people from the west bank, and this is a celebration of their release there women who carried out knife attacks , tried to set fire to some houses or people , israelis, committed acts of terrorism, they, it was a very strong effect on

the west bank, when these heroes were released , they were truly greeted as heroes, and here... it must be understood that this was another blow to abbas himself, to palestinian autonomy and their legitimacy in the eyes of all palestinians. mr. sergey, the arab media al-arabi television network showed the material, the video material, talking about the alleged the ukrainian military participates in various military operations on the side of the israel defense forces in the gaza strip. our ministry of foreign affairs has already denied it, said that they did not send ukrainian servicemen there, they are not there, they are not in this region, they were not sent either to... any other countries, who

could be behind this, yes, why show such video materials now , why edit any such video, how to check whether they are ukrainian citizens or not? no, he is an israeli citizen, a repatriate, he left 10 years ago to israel, when a full-scale invasion began, he came to defend his... old motherland, ukraine, joined the ranks of the foreign legion, fought in the kyiv region and in other places, this is a real person, he is from the dnipro, as far as i remember, but when on october 7, israel was attacked, he ended his contract with the foreign legion and returned to israel and became an israeli citizen. does not have a second passport, er, became mobilized to tzaal, to the

israel defense forces. why is this done? well, it is clear that not all of us are close friends in the east and, to present, to find some foreign trace, it always, you know, smells so fried, it always sells well, but look, ukrainians are fighting for israel, you can be there. there is schizophrenia here, we understand that the information component is very important, and they suffered so much, then at first they said that hamas attacked israel almost with ukrainian weapons transferred by ukraine, remember, this was the first launch, and now the second launch only from another side, what are the ukrainians on the other side, why are these coordinated scrotal cysts burning so much, well, it’s on there were absolutely so many fakes that they themselves debunked. do you remember those mass corpses that lie under white sheets and scratch because it is stuffy and flies are biting, and they

are presented as mass victims, that is, we have not looked at this, why are they burning so much in the informational component of this conflict, and very simply, if it works, even with poor execution, then why finish it, ugh, it works, it finds its consumer, plus this is additionally ... all this russian bot farm and the network of the main administration screw it up of the moorf general staff, so they have channels, they have opportunities to expand in the middle east. yes, even such a good liberal russian always picks up on it, i am now watching a tape of so-called liberal russian-speaking jokes, they support the same thing , such a good liberal russian is not their netochka and only their netochka. it is allowed to say a little that the old man looks like a beka, but we, well, there are nuances, yes, we have doubts,

mr. serhiy, thank you for the conversation, see you again, serhiy danilov, deputy director of the center for middle eastern studies, actually about such a distant and at the same time close second war. we already have the next guest, anna zakharash, director of corporate communications of the kyivstar company. we welcome you, ms. anna, to our airwaves. good afternoon, what? we congratulate both you and us that kyivstar has restored 100% of the services that were lost yesterday in some regions, not all subscribers, and after last week's incident, when it took several days to restore the mobile network, the internet and everything that we needed it, yesterday was a bit scary, wasn't it will happen again, and now again there is a fear that this story may not happen again in the future... because we see that those who did it

have this opportunity, thank you for asking, thank you for the invitation, thank you for we had the opportunity, when the communication was down, to communicate through media channels, and i want to thank espresso tv for inviting, you know, no one can guarantee that there will not be repeated attacks, i think they certainly will be, as well as attacks on energy infrastructure and on any other civilian infrastructure, but of course we have to... prepare, so, as you know, the sbu has opened eight implementations, i think it is the security service of ukraine that will comment as soon as the investigation is carried out, of course, we are all with you let's learn about the details, what we know, so far, the sontsepok group, so-called, has claimed responsibility for the largest hacker

attack that happened not only in ukraine, but that happened globally. telecom market, by the way, when i joined you, you actually with the previous guest, they talked about hamas and the attack on israel, it can be quite compared to what happened with kyivstar, because kyivstar is a sufficiently protected network, and from the point of view of cyber security, we repel about 50 million attacks every day, and they are growing and growing, but what happened is priceless. you know, as israel, which lived in war and lives in war, and was very prepared , but the hamas operation was prepared in advance, as well as the attack on kyivstar, what i can report is exactly, exactly, exactly it was prepared for a long enough time, but i have good news for you today, if i can

announce it now, of course, good news, the deficit today, and... well, then i will be happy to say that we have finally resumed work, we have done it, kyivstar has done it quickly enough, if we compare the scale of the hacker attack, and i want to say that all kyivstar subscribers do not have to pay for their tariff for the next, for the next period, that is, the tariff fee, for your tariff plan has been canceled, so use our communication services , we are very grateful to have us... ah, absolutely, absolutely, and this is such a thank you, and the second part of this thank you, you know, a lot of subscribers wrote to us in the social network that compensation should not be sent to the armed forces, so i am happy to say that all our people poured into,

let's say, a large donation, it will be uah 100 million, which will be directed to... the needs of the armed forces. currently, we are working out which projects we will do, so i cannot announce anything else, but i can say that such a large amount of 100 million will be directed to the needs of our defenders. ms. anna, you know, so much conspiracy theory was born on the very first day when the attack happened, that is, everyone who loves trump, believes in reptilians, in a flat earth, is listening. the song climb my little fruit or love ani lorak or bought the latest album of laboda, everyone could unite. there is one question as of today, why, and we understood that such terrorist acts are our future, bright in the future, but in our eyes they chose kyivstar out of all the operators, but i have only this mystery, in me here

there are two cards, that is, yours is the same as they say, why did you choose kyivstar and not another operator? you know, i think that kyivstar was chosen because kyivstar, firstly, is the largest operator, we serve 24 million subscribers, and secondly , maybe some of you noticed what the sontsepok group said, they they said directly that we are doing a hacker attack because the campaign helps the armed forces of ukraine too much, well, that's why we understand. the news came from the occupied territories, we can't verify it, but they say, oh well a russian wrote, there a good russian wrote the following, he says: it is strange why they hit kyivstar, if our military is also used for communication, kyivstar, that's what we read, and

what would you answer, because it was spreading. on telegram channels, you know, we immediately commented, if you are talking about the sim card that was found in shahed, directly on all telegram channels, right so beautifully, you know, all this is visible, and of course there could be a sim card there any operator, and i think the answer is simple enough, because we have the largest network, maybe used this sim card too, maybe i... i repeat myself, because actually all this should be an investigation, well, i completely agree with you, thank you for such a funny and funny tip, you know, i wrote that yes.. . such a number of experts that we currently see from the point of view of cyber defense and telecom, it was difficult to imagine before this cyber attack,

so of course we are grateful that experts joined and commented, but still, as a large company, we constantly maintain open communication, everything what we have, we have all the news we tell you right away, once again we thank you for this openness and for the good news for subscribers. compensation and good news for our defenders, anna zakharash, director of corporate communications of the kyivstar company, because it was, well, that's what we managed, and by the way, actually this intelligence community of the ministry of defense of great britain, they recognized this last week's cyber attack on kyivstar, one of the most destructive such operations since the beginning of russia's full-scale invasion of ukraine, and just yesterday 10 countries... estonia and nine of its partners launched such a mechanism, the tallinn mechanism for cyber assistance to ukraine, actually support in the civil sphere, it was created precisely

to help us fight, to resist similar attacks in the future, because they are the same as ms. anna , it is assumed that all this can be repeated, it can be repeated with one or another mobile operator, it can be repeated also in other areas, and already... estonia has allocated 500 00 € for this mechanism through its budget for the year 2024. but we are in front of our eyes received an answer to the question of moviegoers, because everyone always said, well, when they will shoot the fourth part of the matrix, and it should not be shot. this is already classic and is shown here on this cyber attack, on others, because other cyber attacks took place in parallel with it, we are in fact in an invisible cyber war, and now. the results of the war, successful operations, we only learn about them, well , for example, we got to know the attack on kyivstar, because it was effective, but we also know that our cyber forces

are also responding, yesterday through the pipes nothing leaked, i’m not talking about some guano, i’m even talking about ordinary russian water, because yesterday the russian operator of all the water supply networks just put minus 50 tb, everything doesn’t work, and it’s like that... and not the first, because there was already a story with the tax office, the tax office was sharpening, resting , for a long time, but this level of attacks was not yet of the same scale, but this one yesterday on the russian vodokanal, it is already serious, so in parallel with the information war, a real war on the ground, there is a cyber war, and here is the question, well, some option cyber defense is compensated so and so, but as for everything else, i don’t know whether to sign international agreements or what, let’s see, we heard what

they are doing, what kyivstart is doing for our armed forces in particular, and we urge you to do the same, we understand that the size of donations may vary, but every uah 10 is important, we want to collect 1220 00 for battery stations with solar panels for ours. defenders, here is the qr code, the card number will now appear, please save this information for yourself, and now when we leave for a break, then you can support our defenders. with that, we say goodbye, have a peaceful, safe day, see you tomorrow, take care of yourself and be sure to stay with espresso, because ether will continue our colleagues. before meeting. attention - an incredible novelty from unpack tv. super warm and very comfortable alaska

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