january will not be, but why did the verkhovna rada not want to consider this issue now, since, well, as far as i understand, this issue is quite important at this very point in which we are now, there are not enough people at the front, those who managed the territorial centers of equipment, there was a large rotation there, because there was corruption among these military leaders, why, why the verkhovna rada. is moving so slowly in the direction of normalizing the position regarding mob mobilization in ukraine? well first of all i would like to go back to your first question about the image of our victory, i think that president zelensky clearly said during his press conference that the image of our future victory is clearly enshrined in the constitution of ukraine, it is the territorial integrity of ukraine, within the generally recognized international borders, it is the preservation of our statehood, our... identity, etc., and how

to ensure it, this is exactly the question you are asking about now, because on the one hand it is really a consolidation of our internal efforts, and here it should be noted that today we have a consolidation of both society and authorities, the society does not accept any territorial concessions, which some international partners are calling for, and in fact, about 80% of the society there. also believes that our victory is the return of the entire territory temporarily occupied by the enemy. in order to do this, we need a lot of consolidated things, both within the state, at the level of consolidation and various political forces, and here we must give credit, i think, to all our colleagues in the parliament, because after a year and a half of war, we demonstrate , that the questions are related to provision of our armed forces, security and defense sector.

is pushed by practically a constitutional majority, and after small political discussions we still come to unity, to consolidation, but we also need to consolidate our international partners, here mrs. iryna is absolutely correct in saying that there is no other way than guaranteeing in the future not to allow such actions, committed by the russian federation against us, this is ukraine's membership in nato, ukraine's membership in the european union, and again, thanks to the consolidation of various political forces, consolidation of various block of state power, we also received the beginning of negotiations on membership in the european union and we will still make every effort so that during the nato summit in the united states we also receive at least some clear signals about our future, but what you asked and that , what experts, including an english expert, talked about on your broadcasts, there is the transfer of the economy to military rails, is this enough or not enough, well, here i agree with mr. yaroslav that today... talk about what

the ukrainian economy does not work on military flights anyway, there is no reason for the rails, because, well, i don’t want to say a lot about this to the general public on the air, but a lot of private and state enterprises, institutions and organizations have switched to the production of military products, and i think that in the next year we will be largely net thanks to internal reserves and consolidation, again not of the public sector. state, we will provide our security and defense forces, our, our armed forces with mines and other ammunition, over this we working now, and we see just this very , you know, clear position of private business, because on the committee on national security, defense and intelligence, and in public and private communication, we see how businessmen are trying to provide our armed forces with it is necessary, precisely the million drones that you... are talking about,

having received information at a closed meeting of the extreme committee on national security and defense, i can say that already this year we will receive a very large number drones of various kinds, and next year i think that a million drones is definitely not a fantastic number, and the ukrainian economy, and the public and private sectors will demonstrate this, as far as mobilization is concerned, it is a great pity to win a war with such a powerful resource. .. an adversary that, despite all the pressure of sanctions, retains a sufficiently powerful potential, without mobilization of both economic and human resources, we are unlikely to be able to. in the verkhovna rada, our committee is considering a number of legislative initiatives related to the improvement legislation on mobilization. why hasn't it been brought to the hall yet, because we haven't yet reached , let's say, agreement on all those fundamental points that will ensure, well, as much as possible. well

, the activities of territorial recruitment centers, all other constituent bodies of state power, local self-government bodies, which according to the law should be involved in this process, are still under discussion. agreement is still in progress and almost every day we discuss issues related to the improvement of future legislation on the level of committee members mobilization, so i think already next year in the early days, when we will finalize these texts in the committee, we will be able to offer them to the general public, and i think that they will really be able to improve the issue, including mobilization, but the president here he clearly said that in order for us to somehow... stimulate citizens to join the armed forces through various mechanisms, including various incentives, bonuses, and so on, we must receive clear signals as to why exactly such a number of future conscripts or military personnel are necessary for the security and defense

sector, because here i do not completely agree with your statement that there are not enough fighters at the front, well, today, unlike the first days of the war, the armed forces and the defense security sector in general are growing . in the number of almost five times, and this is a sufficient amount of what, to date , provides us with the deterrence of the enemy and even those successful counteroffensive operations that were carried out last year and partially this year. well, you mean to say that 500,000 people who want to mobilize, that they will be somewhat redundant at the front, right? i don't want to say that, the question goes a little differently, since the president also spoke about it, mobilization, it has a friend. people who have been fighting for almost two years, they should have a clear, clear understanding of when they can go home, or go on long leave, or be demobilized, and for this it is necessary to fill those who will be demobilized with new, well, new people, and

these are the problems that are being worked on and the commander in chief of the armed forces, and our committee and the office of the president, thank you, madam maria, is there anything you wanted to add? well, such important segments of our joint victory must also be true to say that in some places the actions of the ukrainian authorities, well , they are very significant, there are discrepancies with the statements, and today's situation, unfortunately, in the hall of the parliament, which concerns the voting of the new four members of the accounting chamber, is a confirmation of this, because when you and i talk about international. about unity within, i.e. today's situation, as well as the voting of those new four members accounting chamber took place, this is in principle contrary to the public statement of the g7 about the need for reforms, and then to elect new members, that is, it was clearly stated, and therefore, you know,

in international relations, well, after all , the issue of trust, partnership is also the way to understanding and victories, and when we ignore such cooperation and drag out those people who... are beneficial to the office of the president, well, that is , again about the arrival of corruption factors, well , this is a path to nowhere for the country and definitely not to victory, and i am here i agree that unfortunately it seems to me that many of our partners, it is already time to talk about it, very non-publicly let it be known that some personnel decisions, well , they are to the detriment of the country, to the detriment of the state, but we hear from the president, i have five managers, i i don't know, there are six and we work with them. and where are all the other people, the whole country is working for this victory, and it is important not to forget about it, we must thank everyone who talks about it, and when we talk about the economy, well, excuse me, well, yaroslav, you can also confirm what we have problems in customs policy, in tax policy, and so on the reality is, well, there are real problems,

and you know these problems in business, and we also have to show our international partners that we can support our businessmen, our and... economy, and also give funds to the budget, and not only to be, well, let's say this, only to need this financial support, because there is a deficit of finances, and you and i know that the situation is quite difficult, both in the eu and in the united states, this is due to, well, some pre-election processes, which will happen, but it is still very important honestly now to answer the question that there is no, there is no and... a long-term also economic strategy for mobilization, i agree here, when we talk about mobilization, this issue goes together with demobilization, and unfortunately, mr. fedir, there is not decommissioning in some brigades, and you also know it, i am not talking about the part about

the unfit, who are also fixed and listed in the brigades, that is, there are a lot of issues that, unfortunately, we cannot talk about publicly, but they are, they need to be solved, because after all still... the second year of the war is coming, and we are only in the second year of the war, a full-scale, or rather invasion, you and i are depriving vat of those components that are needed there for drones or for rebs or for other stories, that is... well, very it is still important to develop a strategy taking into account internal and external resources, and honestly build this strategy based on the data that ukraine has, then it will be honest. mr. yaroslav, ms. maria mentioned zelensky's phrase about five or six people who are the basis of a team, and actually everything depends on this team, the future of the country and the future of air defense, well, roughly. such a phrase was said, how do you feel about the fact that ukrainians are actually

hostages of a small group of people who are involved in solving these issues. maybe this is good during the war, when power is concentrated in one hand, maybe it's bad, because if the president doesn't have these five or six people, the question will arise, what to do next and what will happen to the war. with the front, how did you perceive the fact that this team, well, is small enough, let's say so, and maybe even vulnerable, well, first of all, i am not a member of the president’s team, thank god, but talking with colleagues who represent the authorities in one way or another, i understand that this phrase played very badly within the powerful team itself, because these people with the question arose, who? they then, because before that they considered themselves the command of the president, secondly, sorry, to equate shurma,

tatarov, yermak and all the other cppos, well , excuse me, well, that’s a little bit, i think mr. president overdid it, but it will definitely be macroeconomic help to get rid of the same noise of other deputies, well, because, excuse me, they are stealing from the customs there and we are talking with you now, here is the story of the schemes about the head of energoatom, how he is now on the money that is there, including now on criminal charges nabu affairs, builds a conchiaz estate with a swimming pool for himself during the war, well, here is a concrete example, well, it really is, but we will lose if we release them, it seems to me that simply economically we will have a plus, well, this is one of the biggest , probably macroeconomic aid, which may be in ukraine, so once again i am weak. i understand who these

two people are, i would really like to believe that it is someone from the military, but as i say, the management team shows excellent efficiency in terms of further personnel decisions, well , look, if anyone has... elementary, at least the slightest doubt that today's story , which my colleague ms. ivanova mentioned , will pass unnoticed from the accountant, well, look, considering that we are now fully counting on the money of international partners, including 373 in the next year, well, they will be here to overvote, now it will become a requirement to receive money, and well, shoot yourself in the foot... it's stupid enough, during the war it's also criminal, well, but we saw it today, i

congratulate all colleagues on this rake run. now, as for the money and our obligations, look, we are in the best case, yes, if everything goes well, everything will be voted on february 1, we will actually choose half of these 50.39 billion, and this money is given for four years, what do you think in 2020 ? exactly according to the imf, we have a program for 4 years, we have already chosen almost 10 billion, and we will choose more than 15 billion there by the end of the 24th year, do you think we will have less money in 2025, according to the americans, i i think that, god forbid, they should vote now in january, at least the amounts that were voiced, what we... asked for next year, we are now choosing, there is norway 1 billion, because we need to close the money now, money from

there will be fewer internationals, moreover, in the next year, since they don't understand in a different way here, on alas, some representatives of the government, each of this money will be in exchange for the reform, each, even in the money of the world bank, and that will now be according to dpl, conditionalities, and again, today's situation for me showed that there is something wrong with us we are ready for reforms for the time being, that is, we will receive less international money, that is, we will lose our money for social welfare, that is, less money will be spent on... the army, and now i have a question, what about mobilizing these additional people that we want, and we dress and pay them a salary, for what money let's, well, i 'm not good at math yet, and i'm a person who calculates budget numbers pretty well, so again, honestly, i listened to the conference, i didn't like the president's press conference, this is

my personal opinion, it may differ , but what does it matter what people say, i want to see actions, and taking into account... or my specifics of the economy, i like to see actions specifically on the numbers, i want to see what will happen to the heads of energoats, who are robbed because of one tender, and there well, there is no answer there, there are only criminal cases nabu, quarils noise, well, obviously yes, why not admit anything, billions are lost there, what will happen to the people who cut illegal markets, what will happen to the people who were responsible for the fact that 100 billion were stolen at the customs, it is not mine... amount, this is the amount that was announced by the sbi and our committee confirmed, well, for me, this is the answer to how victory is achieved, i am not necessarily an expert, here mr. vyanislavskyi, as a member of the profile committee , knows a thousand times more closed data, but i know exactly the budget data that goes to the military, i definitely see that there are problems, i definitely see not only that there are problems that

this creates, even who are the problems that are responsible for it, and unfortunately, these... who is the same for sure because among these p seven or six managers. thank you, mr. yaroslav. after a short break, let's return to our studio. do not switch, it will be interesting later. tingling and crawling sensations arise spontaneously and disturb you. the dolgit antineuralgia complex helps to normalize the functioning of the nervous system. dolgit antineuralgia helps. return to the usual things without tingling and numbness in the limbs , capsules dolgit anti-neuralgia, help your nervous system, damned stairs, my legs can't walk anymore, wait, i'm suffocating, that there is no health, and what kind of health is there in the sixth ten, i thought so, until i tried herovital. gerovital+ is a phytovitamin complex that cares for the heart and strengthens the body. gerovital+ -

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comment under this video, if you are sitting in front of the tv, pick up the tv. background and vote if you support the idea of ​​mobilizing women in ukraine (0800-211-381), the second function no (0800-21382). all calls to these numbers are free, at the end of the program we will sum up the results of this vote. today we have as guests yaroslav zheliznyak, people's deputy of ukraine from the voice faction, maria ionova, people's deputy of ukraine from the european solidarity faction, and feder vienislavskyi, people's deputy of ukraine. the servant of the people faction, well, since before this pause, mr. yaroslav and ms. maria spoke a lot talked about how voting takes place and... and why it happened today regarding the new members of the accounting chamber, and mr. yaroslav talks about the team that is close to the president, to which there are also a lot of

questions, mr. fedor, you are in the faction and in the presidential team, you discuss these issues that are socially significant, important, that are, among other things, markers for the representatives of the big seven countries, that... you can't vote like that, that you can't vote for such personnel appointments, because it will have such and such consequences, that is, to what extent the faction forms its policy based on what our partners, who help us fight against the russian federation, tell us, among other things? well, really speaking about the fact that everything is fine in the financial sphere of ukraine, there is no reason for great regret, because 2/3 of the state budget is the future borrowing, internal, external, and accordingly we are forced to make certain decisions , all, including our political power, to be guided by

the recommendations, by the position of our international partners, certainly when voting on any sensitive matters are also discussed intra-factionally in the large faction and in the small faction of the servant of the people political party, therefore all decisions made by our political power. in the parliament, they are discussed in advance, and from them a, let's say, consolidated position regarding the future vote, which concerns the vote for the members of the accounting chamber, is made, then, you know, i would not distinguish exclusively the personnel issue from the legal status of the accounting chamber in general, i i want to remind you that this includes our representatives political forces have registered a bill that should bring the legal status of the accounting chamber to, let's say, the highest world standards in the financial audit that is carried out in the field of public finances, i think that those personnel decisions that will be

made taking into account the future reform of the legal status of the accounting chamber , will definitely not be a problematic issue for us in our relations with our western partners, so we are forced to focus on recommendations, on positions, and we do it, and sir fedor, western partners quite often talk about corruption in the ukrainian government, or stimulate the ukrainian government to fight corruption, do you accept these criticisms, because if there is a monopoly, then there is immunity , including for the corruption that exists in ukraine, well, i think , that the very reality, the very practice that is generally available at... the activities of journalists shows that there is definitely no cover for corruption in the servant of the people political party, because those members

of our political power in the parliament who were somehow involved or even suspected of being involved in some kind of corruption, they received suspicions that precautionary measures were taken against them and no one was covering for anyone, so i think that you know, president zelenskyi, i am convinced of this , personally has zero tolerance. to corruption and it has as its goal to minimize any manifestations of corruption in the country, i personally have absolutely no doubts about this, so i think that we will continue to adopt those normative legal acts and act those institutional reforms which will lead to a decrease in the level of corruption and to its, let's say, minimization in all spheres of our life, but unfortunately, this process... has actually been going on for 10 years and the dynamics, although positive, are only as much as expected by society and we are with you.

thank you, mrs. maria, please, such deputies who are precisely associated with corruption, i am not talking about those who are responsible for judicial law enforcement authorities, like tatarov, that is, they are still, unfortunately, in positions, i am not talking about the fact that the previous heads of the ministry of defense, which i... times sold eggs for 17, they also did not bear responsibility, and if we are talking about the capless component, then bakanov catches fish and still becomes some kind of lawyer, that is, where then is the responsibility and where is the president’s zero tolerance for corruption, because i’m sorry, but unfortunately, we we should not give any skeptics in the eu countries and our other international partners any skepticism and any problems and bells and whistles that could, well , you know, throw... us that there is something wrong with us, reforms are taking place, and that we have corruption, big problems because we're not going to get to our extremely important segments that way.

this is the eu and nato, and that is why now, when we are talking about the parliament, the president, the government, well, that is, it is important for us that both ukrainian diplomacy and our western partners are aware , well , that is, we all have to work very effectively on well, such a neutralization of those bells that exist, but we also should not give an excuse, i am not talking, well, i remarked about the elections next year, we have to understand what kind of wave of populism will be and anti-ukrainian. because it's all about money, it's really vital for us to have financial support, military support, and that's why this has such a negative impact, well, on the level and volume of support, it really affects not only ukrainian society, but the first of all, it will affect our army, and we know the situation with you, that it is important to take into account the issue

of demobilization, because when you talked about mobiles. and so you asked a question, mr. serhiy, that concerns, well, let's say, mobilization, well, excuse me, well, full-scale the war has been going on for 2 years, but the authorities have not yet honestly proposed any such clear, understandable mobilization algorithms, it is not a question of women or men, because a lot of women left in 2014 and after february 23, that is, some military men, we we know from... that the vast majority also from 2014, and they are so tired, and so, well, you know, it is important, a lot of working groups are also working in the parliament now, and mr. feder knows about it, he knows about it said, but it turns out that for the second year we are not able to provide, well, a normal rotation, normal rest and normal rehabilitation, that's why it's very important, but now i'm also going to, well, let's say this, debate, will it be a bill of the president or the verkhovna rada? or

the government, who will be entrusted with these responsibilities , who will be entrusted with the responsibility of the supreme commander-in-chief, who, in principle, should also ask questions about mobilization and demobilization, so i would like that, after all, mobilization should be carried out using such a comprehensive approach, and not you know, all at once, because this matrix and this document that you are now you are working out, well , you know how complicated it is, it seems to me that it is important to just take small, realistic steps , thank you, thank you, ms. maria, maybe mr. federa, you have the answer, one reply, i would still encourage you to manipulate it and you know, well, it is more or less objective to provide information, because when we talk, for example, about the ex-minister of defense, we must remember that his deputy is currently in a pre-trial detention center, that preventive measures have been taken against him, detention and i don't remember

that such a number of people's deputies and... representatives of the majority of high-ranking parliamentary officials receive suspicions of committing crimes, this is an indicator of the fight against corruption, and not just, well, why bakanov, to be honest, i do not know whether there are any corruption suspicions against bakanov , which you mentioned , there are many questions for him, but regarding corruption, mr. bakanov has no reason to talk about any corrupt actions, so let's be more or less objective and not distort any facts, thank you, sir yaroslav, do you have anything to add? because we are coming to the end of our program about corruption, about the fight against corruption, about responsibility and about how all this should continue to live together with the war? well, let's use examples, it will be clearer, feder, with all due respect, and naumov, not under bakanov , used to destroy the entire customs office and organize schemes there, it wasn't under him, and he didn't know about it, as a leader, and reznikov did not

show it to the whole country . well, the documents that i showed at our joint meeting were already there, and the noise with my brother on occupied territories of the solar station, he still holds them, and no one has returned the money of 300 million, which they received for electricity in the territories occupied by the occupier. the time of our program has come to an end, we will definitely continue this topic in one of our next studios. thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for participating in the program, maria ionova, fedir vienislavskyi and yaroslav zheleznyak were guests of our studio today. during our broadcast, we conducted a survey, we asked whether you support the idea of ​​mobilizing women in ukraine, so 18% yes, 82%.