hold by ukraine's allies, according to him , putin thought that the unity of the west should have cracked a long time ago, but he was wrong. let's hear what antony blinken had to say. in recent weeks , president putin has boasted that, and i quote: ukraine has no future. he thinks that his wait-and-see strategy, when he sends young russians in waves to the meat grinder he himself has already created, will pay off. there is only one point i agree with putin, and that is that continued support from america is crucial for the brave soldiers and citizens of ukraine to be able to to continue their struggle and for russia's war to be a strategic defeat for putin. mr. colonel, is a strategic defeat of putin possible without the more active participation of western countries, well, maybe even military participation.

no, i don't think so, yes, but i think that ukrainians need to, ukraine needs to do more than what it is doing now, the government should do everything in order to put the country on a war footing, now it's happening, it's not like that, they want peace , they are doing something, but it is necessary to do much more, and it is necessary to do it faster, harder. therefore, unfortunately, for some reason the verkhovna rada is moving very slowly , they shouldn't have any vacations at all, they should be working smoothly, the defense sector should be strengthened, there should be a positive increase in the results of the production of weapons and things like that, so recently they passed a law on medical cannabis, so it's great for people, who are sick with cancer, but again, this is not the most urgent law that needs to be passed now, because right now there are a lot of people in line for... mr. colonel,

in ukraine they expect that after a certain time ukraine will become a member after all of the north atlantic alliance, but we see how difficult the decision to start accession negotiations with ukraine was. to the european union. hungarian prime minister viktor orbán, who even then was against starting such negotiations with ukraine, now says that he is afraid of ukraine's accession to nato, since the members of the north atlantic alliance have pledged to send their troops there. he does not want hungarians to fight in ukraine as well. let's hear what orbán said. if you really want to help

ukraine, why not use another tool, a strategic partnership, which can be immediate. in short, consisting of the most important elements for ukrainians, support them as such, not through membership , which looks like a cute political gesture, but in reality, will not help ukrainians at all, so why is a strategic partnership not a better alternative to these challenges than this distant prospect of membership, which, as we all understand, will take place after many, mr. colonel, some of the leaders of eastern europe are speaking, or shall we say, protesting against movement of ukraine to europe and to euro-atlantic structures, the impression is that they have never been under the troops of the soviet union, or have forgotten what soviet troops are and how they entered eastern europe, in your opinion, will they be that trojan..

on ukraine's path to europe, including to nato, will europe demonstrate that it is strong and organized in the face of danger, because putin is a danger not only for ukraine, but also for the entire european continent and for the world i want to say that yes. orban works according to the agenda of the kremlin, yes , there is no sense in what he says there, the arguments he uses, no one will pay attention to them, because he claims that no one will accept ukraine into nato until the war is over, but again after all, if finland or another country were suddenly attacked there, his troops would also have to defend another country, these are all just words. now he

wants to become part of that, such an educational process, because the main main... players in nato, yes, they are clear in their position, they they want ukraine to join the union, perhaps even better and faster than if we compare the process of joining the european union. of course, all countries should prepare for ukraine to become a member of nato. i don't even doubt it. nato needs ukraine, needs its experience, military experience. mr. colonel. the year 2023 was quite difficult for ukrainians, as we were waiting for a counteroffensive, waiting for the results of this counteroffensive, and, as some analysts predicted, high-ranking officials, even the event on the crimean peninsula, these expectations did not come true. in your opinion, what awaits the world and

ukraine in the next two years, i , well, let's take this... period, because it is obviously wrong to limit yourself to only the 24th, because when the great war began, we all thought it would be a few months, now we understand that it will be a few years, and people in ukraine should also understand what and how it can happen, what, what factors can affect, here are the essential factors that will change the course of the war and ukraine will win the victory that the west wants so much. i see two such two things, firstly, this is support for the event, if the support for the event does not improve and it is not strengthened, it is not more

targeted, then, unfortunately, ukraine will have big problems, and secondly, the need for the country concentrated on the battle, on the war. no, it is very important, that is, such an internal understanding for ukrainians as well, regarding the fact that they are protected by soldiers on the front lines, we should not forget about them, and of course, we are talking about strengthening the defense industrial complex, because it is necessary to introduce new technologies, it is necessary conduct training for soldiers, if this is not done properly, then there will not be the result that everyone expects, because if morale falls... if things go badly and there is no proper support, the soldiers get tired, and this shows their weakness, and therefore they can't fight like they

could, they're human, we're all human, we know how it works, and so soldiers need to know that the country is with them, everyone, civil society. support as well. mr. colonel, i thank the military from other countries who will be theirs thank you for the conversation, and we will meet next year on our broadcast. it was a retired british army colonel, military expert glen grant. friends, we continue to work. live on the espresso tv channel, as well as on our youtube and facebook platforms. for those who are currently watching us on these platforms, don't be shy, please like this video to promote it on these platforms. in addition, subscribe to our pages on facebook and youtube and take

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greetings, friends, on the live broadcast of the verdict program of the tv channel. we work live, also on our youtube platforms. and on facebook, so please don't forget to like this video to help it trend on youtube. today in our program. zelensky's victory strategy, or the president clearly articulates the ways to return the territories. an empty budget, where the ukrainian government will take the funds, if the usa and the eu do not help in the end. mobilization in a new way, how the authorities want to attract more people to... the army, and how to convince ukrainians not to be afraid of it. friends, during

this broadcast we ask you about the following: do you support the idea of ​​mobilizing women in ukraine, yes, no, everything is quite simple in the youtube channel, choose the function either yes or no, or write your comment under this video. if you're sitting in front of the tv, pick up the phone and dial 0800 211 381 if you're up for the idea. no 0800 211 382 all calls to these numbers are free. today, the verdict is in the guest house. yaroslav zheliznyak, people's deputy of ukraine, voices faction. mr. yaroslav, i congratulate you, thank you for joining our broadcast. good evening, thank you for inviting me. feder vienislavskyi, people's deputy of ukraine, servant of the people faction. mr. fedor, i congratulate you, thank you for being with us today. good evening. and maria, glory to the heroes. and maria ionova, people's deputy of ukraine, european solidarity faction. mrs. maria, i congratulate you, thank

you for being with us today. yes, in ukraine. let's, glory to heroes. ladies and gentlemen, let's talk today about ukraine's victory strategy. what is it, does president zelensky clearly articulate the ways and means to achieve it. why exactly, i had such a question, because volodymyr zelenskyy gave a big press conference. during the two-hour final annual meeting this week, a lot was said about the results of the 23rd year according to the plans for the 24th year, as far as i understood, volodymyr. considers the question of mobilizing men from 450 to 5,000 men, and in addition, as the supreme said the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine , he expects that the defense-industrial complex will begin

to work more actively in the 24th year, and in particular, during the year , 1 million drones will be manufactured by ukrainian enterprises, let's start with how, in your opinion, it should look at the strategy of our victory in ukraine, because next year will probably be decisive for the russian-ukrainian war, i would like to hope that this year will be a year of victory, but that it will be part of our great victory, it is absolutely obvious, ms. maria, how about you, have you heard from the president about the strategy for that? what will be ahead, is it a secret, a military secret, and we cannot talk about it, does the verkhovna rada have any data about this strategy, or does this strategy need to be developed together with the president, what do you say, well, mr. serhiy, victory for of ukraine, in fact, we all see that this

is the preservation of our statehood and the preservation of our independence, this is primarily, secondly, indeed, this is the restoration of territorial integrity within internationally recognized borders, and the president also talks about this, but also victory is membership in the european union and nato, because it is a guarantee of security, and the european union is economic development and economic well-being for our society, but there must also be defeat putin's regime, the defeat of russia, and actually the very long-term deprivation of russia, perhaps... to wage an aggressive war, so when you talk about the russian-ukrainian war, it's still broader, we see that it's russia against all democracy, against of the civilized world, but we also have to realize and understand and remember that what putin is, he is at war with the entire democratic world and, in principle, with

the existing post-war system of order, which is according to... on the rules, therefore ukraine's victory should really be a victory not only for ukraine , but for the entire democratic world, and the achievement of this victory is our absolutely joint responsibility, it is not only ukraine's, but we have already heard from many leaders that, really, not as much as we can, but to the victory of ukraine, and this formula for victory, we see that there is a consensus, both between ukraine and... the west, regarding independence and territorial integrity, but it seems to me that two elements are missing, these are the eu and nato, and therefore we must work together in this formula to achieve this strategic foresight and also assure our international partners that they

, together with them, must demonstrate this determination and achieve the strategy. and these are the victories of democracy, but i want to conclude here to say that in fact all our victories in reality also depend on our unity, both internal and external, and when we talk about international solidarity and comprehensive political, economic, sanctions, military, humanitarian aid for the protection of our country, and that defeat russia took place, we also have to say honestly that this is a speed bump. reforms within our country, and this is the acceleration of those reforms that should bring us to the eu and nato accession. it seems to me that this is the last year, that is, our way to victory, which you say in the next year, which looks more like this, there will be a lot of tests for our internal

unity, we can see it now, and the determination of our western partners to support it also depends on it. ukraine and therefore this philosophy that we hear from president biden, from the leaders of the european union, that is, this dilemma, how much is needed, it also depends on how much, how much we can, but we have to show all our intentions, that we have to win together, together, and that's why we work together in unity over weapons, sanctions, the financial myth concerning the president 's press conference, we... support all the words and statements, but i would like the actions towards this unity within, well, they were more sincere and, let's say yes, more like that. we, and not only in words. thank you, mrs. maria. mr. yaroslav, today i had on air a military expert from great britain, retired colonel of the british army

glen grant, and he said that what ukraine lacks now is that the economy is on war rails, that society should understand that war is the first thing that is the... task that is in ukraine, in your opinion, will the 24th year be the year when all the resources, the entire economy will start to work to the war , and society will also readjust, because , well, many western experts have talked about this, they are talking about the fact that ukrainians need to understand more, participate more in the war against russia, well, including because of... the future mobilization, which already announced by the president, or about which he says that the supreme commander-in-chief's rate is asking

start this mobilization? to be honest, i have never heard of your mentioned guest from great britain as an expert in the economy, and i would be honest, i would probably doubt his expertise, that... less knowledge of figures on the budget of ukraine and what the ukrainian economy looks like , it is always easier to advise from her side, but excuse me, it seems to me that the question of what the military economy is, well, it is quite speculative, b, to put it mildly, and now it is probably present, well, at least because that all our money we spend now on the army, all of it, we cannot spend international money on the army, everything we collect in ukraine... it goes to military needs anyway, even, unfortunately, we do not have enough, so we take internal debts that we can also spend on the army,

that's why i'm honest, i 've been hearing about the military economy all the time lately, sorry, it 's hype, the name and nothing more, well, we're already in the 21st century, and that's why even during the war , the country's economy has definitely not work like in the second. the second world war, this is the first, secondly, on alas, i would really like to see a million new military factories, but you probably don’t need to be a genius to understand that a russian missile will immediately fly into them, and therefore we will have to be a little more creative here, although domestic production, of course must be developed. point three, which concerns the mobilization of internal resources, there is definitely room for improvement. at the very least, some representatives of the government, such as rostislav shurma and the rest of this gang of corrupt officials who have taken up residence in the president's office, should stop stealing,

look, a very simple example, we had during the war, when the borders are now closed, we have no borders now, i mean, trade borders with belarus, with russia, for some reason we suddenly had a record number of illegal tobacco products, a record, never before ... it didn't happen, we are losing 23.5 billion uah, but we can, everyone knows where it is produced, who is responsible for these factories, who is crushing it from the law enforcement agencies, but it can be closed, it is 23 billion uah, i translate, that were stolen from the army, these are the same 17 eggs, just, well, the eggs are probably more understandable examples, it was less understood here, the same applies to expenses, well, there everyone is clinging to... bans and vegetable cutters, which is also, well, to put it mildly, a very bad story, you look at the top tender now, from whom it still goes to dear, every week we have about 10-15% of this

budget, well, public procurement goes to roads, we really need so many roads, can we not endure another year without an interchange at zhuliany, the third is a story about the use of engagement. well, there are conditional investments and so on, it is clear that during war, to put it mildly, ukraine is not the most interesting country for investment, but on the other hand, we have opened negotiations with the european union, and now every hryvnia or dollar invested in ukraine will become five dollars there in just a few years, and that's why many foreign companies look at it and want to invest, but here, as always, the supreme is in the way. that's right, our law enforcement officers are completely off the chain, who are a nightmare not only for ukrainian business, but also for international ones. therefore, when i return, we

we're talking about the war economy, sorry, it's not the second world war and not great britain, when i remind you, at the beginning of the war they killed domestic animals because they were saving money to spend on animal feed, no, thank god, in we now have international partners , they help us, we will never cover the amount of 40 billion with our own revenues, at least in the coming years, but thank god we don’t need it, but with internal resources, without radically changing... the state structure there economical, but simply banal, that is closing several large holes, well, we can definitely mobilize 200-300 billion, 100%, and i would like to remind you that now according to the borderline budget that we adopted for this year, we already lack 300 billion, well, this year we will spend 1.9 for the war, and they accepted a budget of 1.6 tril, well, an obvious amount, but you don’t

have to be... a great mathematician, that’s what, for me, it’s called the military economy, when we close everything where it we are losing money, and this money, i say once again, is our internal money, only going to war, everything external, unfortunately, we cannot send to war, no matter how much we would like to. thank you, mr. fedor, you are the author of bills that strengthen mobilization, or, let's say, propose a new system of mobilization. ukrainians in the state, many are now talking about mobilization, and zelenskyi says that i do not know how to carry out this mobilization, which requires 500 billion hryvnias, that is, to mobilize an additional 500,000 ukrainians, what about these draft laws, so that the verkhovna rada, as far as i understand, went for small ones holidays, the work of the parliament

... which probably won't be until the 15th or until the 10th of january, and why didn't the verkhovna rada want to consider this issue now, since, well, as far as i understand, this issue is quite important at this very point, in in which we are now, there are not enough people at the front, those who managed the territorial centers of equipment, there was a big rotation there, because some of them are troops. there was corruption, why, why is the verkhovna rada moving so slowly in the direction of normalizing its position on mob mobilization in ukraine? well, first of all, i would like to return to your first question about the image of our victory, i think that president zelensky clearly said during his press conference that the image of our future victory is clearly enshrined in the constitution of ukraine, that is the territorial integrity of ukraine in within the limits of generally recognized international

borders, this is... preservation of our statehood, our identity, etc., and how to ensure this, this is exactly the question you are asking now, because it is, on the one hand , really a consolidation of our internal efforts, and here it should be noted that today we have the consolidation of both society and the government, society does not accept any territorial concessions, which some international partners are calling on society to do. there, in fact, about 80% also believe that our victory is the return of the entire territory temporarily occupied by the enemy. in order to do this, we need a lot of consolidated things, both within the state, at the level of consolidation and various political forces, and here we must give credit, i think, to our to all my colleagues in the parliament, because after a year and a half of war, we demonstrate that

the issues related to the provision of... our armed forces, the security and defense sector are voted on by an almost constitutional majority, and after small political discussions, we still come to unity, to consolidation , but it is also necessary to consolidate our international partners, here mrs. iryna is absolutely correct in saying that there is no other way to guarantee that such actions, which the russian federation committed against us, will not be allowed in the future, is ukraine's membership in nato, ukraine's membership in the european union, and again, thanks to consolidation. different political forces , the consolidation of various branches of state power, we also received the beginning of the transition to membership in the european union, and we will still make every effort so that during the nato summit in the united states we also receive at least some clear signals about our future, but that , what you asked and what was discussed in your...