and because of the overwhelming number of people who were there, well, their attitude, understanding at that time, of course on a full scale, a lot of things have radically, radically changed in the views of these people, too, if the country does not work on its information policy, on its people, then on someone else works with them in terms of information, i did not always feel comfortable in mariupol with the locals, but in general the city itself, especially in the 21st year, it was very beautiful, there compared to the end of the 15th year, there was a lot to see there, very good rebuilt, many restaurants opened , there are all kinds of museums, viewing areas, entertainment places, it was a good bridge, compared to the distance of 7 years before, and for the war it was a good bridge, as far as mariupol was adapted to the war, i believe that not as much , because... first of all

, mariupol poured a lot of money into it and they made it, they wanted to make it in principle and they made it, like show a front-line city, so the city is located up to 20 km from the front, but life is bubbling there, there are beautiful public squares, beautiful parks, lots of people, lots of rest, everything is working, but the problem is that this city was not made safe, absolutely, that is, in that amount of time, since... we have hostilities near mariupol, it should have really become a fortress, that's 100%. defense lines , caponiers for tanks, howitzers had to be planned in advance, not in the final months before the start of a full-scale war , but already made long in advance. in mariupol direction, well, it is 100% , it had to be prepared, unfortunately... this was not done

and all the defense that was being organized, it was organized on the spot, was done there the day before yesterday, it had to be done already today, because the tanks have already reach the city in the literal sense, and it was done as quickly as possible with the means at hand, i remember the news of february 17, 2022, representatives of the highest authorities. in the country they come to mariupol and say that there is no need to evacuate the city, that the city of mariupol is safe, and what were you preparing for then? this is another one big question is why the front-line cities were not evacuated and did not start this process, and we even evacuated the families of our soldiers by our own forces, i don't remember the numbers, well, it was on the 20th of february, they organized transport, this transport was people to zaporizhzhia, in zaporizhzhia...

a transit point was organized, then opportunities were organized for each possibility of resettlement, they said that a full-scale offensive was planned for february 16, when did you expect a full-scale offensive? i understand that you are his after all did you wait personally, i and those who were near me did not have specific information there that then, then, then there would be an attack, so personally, i did not believe until the end that such bastard idiots live there as they do. .. decides to do this, i was more considering the option that we might have an escalation there on the eastern part of the front, there might be some kind of offensive, but not the kind of atrocity, idiocy that happened, but we did everything we could possible, necessary, we drove the bull, planned if who will go where, if they scouted different places for basing from khorona, there are other things, personally in my group it was planned for the 24th. on the morning of the combat sortie

near shyrokino, but we were raised on the alarm and we were very lucky that we were completely assembled at that moment, 100% assembled, it took us the full battle order of this battery with attached bayonets, a stray, with personal belongings, with property with everything we needed there for us in 30 minutes, we left the base in battle order in 30 minutes from scratch. you understood then that azovstal will become the main place of defense , did they prepare for the fact that there can be such an active and such a long defense? i think that such a scenario that happened , no one could have calculated it at all , no one could have imagined in their worst dreams that in less than a week of full-scale war, we will be closed in a ring, and we will have to keep a small number. people and

an even smaller amount of weapons, the whole city is completely surrounded, it is 120 km, 60 km of which is fully echeloned, such a calculation. no one could, whether azovstal was considered, maybe considered, maybe not, but a very big plus is that on azovstal, just like on yelich, there were bunkers, the bunkers were prepared to receive the civilian population there, there were many civilian sukhpays, there was a lot of water, there was there are some de-nematras, living conditions are made, a lot of antiseptics, this was one of the key points, thanks to which we were able to keep our food well until the moment. exit, i was sure that if the world found out about it, then russia would not be able to exist, not what to do, because this is a crime not against the people of mariupol, it is not a crime against ukraine, it is a crime against humanity, against civilized people, living, real people who

want to live normally, peacefully, develop , see something new, build, but not to destroy and kill, but russia continues to exist now, unfortunately, this is... not about justice, i said that we and there at the beginning, you were surprised that you survived, very much, so when, how when, there were moments , he said goodbye to his wife three times, but he wrote small messages, but a lot emotional in the sense of saying everything possible, there will be no way to say more, just... to say the unsaid things now and give the loved one and family hope that they should continue to live normally, even if this happens, because we are men, and men accept the challenges that life throws at them with dignity, they do not run away from them, but meet them, and

in what words did you say it, a month ago i just reread all the messages, i remember this passage that we fight as swim, it may be the last fight, but what we do it's worth it, remember, but live normally, i wrote so that no one would cry, not be sad there, not make any, well, if i made a feast, then the feasts are fun, that's why i had a little money there, to be let loose on the gulban, that's true, and to disperse me in the mountains, that's what i wanted, and it wasn't said with sadness or something like that, it's just a decision, just in case. two moments that played into the tact that it was possible to do it, well, the first, i say, is audacity, and the second is that they left the lichache two columns, one went in the wrong direction according to the orders of its commander, which ended very sadly, and the second, less

numerous, went towards us, the more numerous, they went according to the order to break out of the encirclement , yes, and the second column went to to keep holding? defense together with you , everything is correct, and some people still remained at the ilyich factory, as far as i know , they left the wounded there, the operation did not go according to plan, they went slightly different ways, we ran, caught cars, met them, directed them where you have to at night you don't see what is painted on the car, you just know, they know that we have to stand on the road, and we know that they have to drive on the road, they know that we have to meet them, and we know that we we have to meet them. and all two cars of the first ones flew past us and drove along the road, where on one side our positions, on the other side of the positions, they were caught all the way to the parallel in mariupol, they were very lucky, because i say, stantyh, no one could even think, that these

may not be their cars, which are simply driving along the road between two positions on line of demarcation, there are absolutely, very few such situations at all. was in the entire history of the world, military, we had a real artillery duel with two hails on the left bank, they were standing at that moment outside the city limits, we quickly run up, aim, less than 100 meters away, a salvo hail flies, one hit, we fire our shot close range, we also hit where we need to, we get a correction, then another barrage flies 30 meters behind us, i was laughing, it seems that this rocket... right on your helmet is rustling like that, it rustled, we we understand that this is their last firing hail, there will be packages next, well, accordingly, when the packages fly, at that moment, in that place , it was impossible to survive, there was a command to withdraw if possible altogether, because we

understood that we were under fire, but that's all - very quickly, we make a decision in a split second, the gunner fires a shot, and this shot is just before the launch of the two packages at us. gets between two cars and brings them out of line, it was wow, of course, at that moment we didn't fully realize how things were, because we weren't watching, well, later, when we were told about it, it was little in... highlighted, but a very unique page, in the battles for marivpol. when were you injured? april 20, if i'm not mistaken, two days before the event, everyone was already called by the steel. we went into the neighboring ones, in the same hangar, just in the next room, and our group of guys who were there as observers asked the cleaning group to come there as well. to clear them and cover them from the other side, and we were covered by 82nd mortars on the way, and two of the four of us were

wounded. it would seem that for mariupol, the 82nd mortar is still a trifle. yes, it's a small thing but a small thing made us incapacitated , almost died, left us alive, because while i had a critical bleeding, he had a more serious injury, i had a splinter, but one of the splinters cut off an artery and it was possible to stay there. thanks to my medical instructors, who taught me and taught him that we couldn't provide first aid to ourselves, we hid a little, but we had to go from there, because if they had continued to fire and we wouldn't have gotten anywhere at all. i crawled to the nearest position, asked the guys, they came closer to him, he had already figured out the situation a little by himself, he crawled half of the way by himself, and we were evacuated in total for about an hour and a half. and then another two hours on the iron.

in general. is this your brother alive? he remained alive. he currently heads the azov recruiting center in lviv. the hospital was a place where you could breathe out, and now, with a clear conscience, i can pass out a little, lie down a little, sleep a little. a very short time. when i got in the hospital, of course, the situation at the time when i got there was quite good, there were many people, many wounded, there were screams, but at that time there was normal food, there were medicines, there were a few painkillers, well, it was definitely easier, than you are constantly in some kind of double entendre, literally in a week the hospital began to be actively bombarded, very actively, by fabs, well, because the artillery in the hospital bunker was not scary, it was banging somewhere from above, it is really... a big real bunker on springs, which all statically takes energy,

you can even hear when a fap arrives , it swings like that, just a little bit, they started actively bombing with faps, they bombed the kitchen, the warehouse, all the approaches, the drive-in, we had such a day, we had two entrances completely blocked at the same time, the entire bunker with almost with five hundred wounded, was completely cut off from light and from any approach. for 5 hours, the guys from the national guard and the guys from azov excavated at least one exit, making access to the surface, after that there was terror all the time, because there was not enough medicine, then the operation collapsed, that is the doctors were operating, they were operating right here in the hall, people are lying on the ground, there are also injured people on the benches, they are just operating in the hall, because there is absolutely nothing to do with improvised means, uh, the feeling, apparently, that you do not understand what century you are in you are in, the feeling that you are in hell, where people suffer

, is not deserved, you are moving into the unknown, where nothing depends on you anymore, before you had a weapon in your hands, before you had a team, a group, brothers there, you had in some , and even a limited, but will to act, you... were the masters of your life, from the moment you leave, you cease to be the master of your life, your life depends on your opponent, which is despicable, disgusting and humiliating, you lost a lot in captivity, by 16 kg, for you it is important, for me it matters, how many months your captivity, without 12 days a year, it gets harder with each month, so with each one. it becomes more difficult, especially if you are in the same place,

because your loved one goes out or some kind of move, it revives you a little bit, because you fall in, the conditions change, you lose your luck again, to adapt, to get used to, that is, the brain perceives this process as some kind of activity, survival, and you understand that you are doing something when you are constantly in the same conditions, terrible, which do not change and there is not even a hint that they will become better, although... once somewhere, it is very bad, both physically and mentally, and i believe that only due to the fact that we sat as a team, we sat as azov citizens. separately, we have the same views, many have a very similar path, and we are mentally close, and we are together it was easier to hold on, to support each other, to understand each other, i knew about kharkiv oblast, i knew about kherson, a little late, but they knew, because it was a very serious blow for them, that we took kherson,

it is the regional center, after all, which was completely under occupation, and it was very telling, and it gave us hope, it showed us that... we can, we really can, we can not only defend ourselves there, we can see this story through to the end, because we have the opponent is absolutely not stupid, not poor, it is one of the most professional, largest armies in the world almost unlimited resources, and we can give them taxes, so once we could once, we could do the second, so we can do the third and fourth, the question now is the army... in general, first of all, we were a bit of a jerk, when we were exchanged, we flew in a staganhorn plane, this is the only once , when i visited russia, i didn’t see anything, i can’t share my impression, there ’s no such thing as you knowing something or waiting, they took us out of the basements, put us

all in one cell, and we just waited there, i personally there until the end i thought that it was just a stage somewhere further, or to taganrog, or... or to rostov, or somewhere else in the hinterland, we were loaded into cars, we drove, drove, nothing was visible there for a little while, but a little along the direction we realized that we were moving in the direction of taganrog, and with the first straw of hope and such a confirmation that your consciousness begins to work out the that it is possible that this is probably an opinion, it is when we saw the aircraft plates under our feet, we realized that we are at the airfield, there is a very low probability that the prisoners... will be expensively staged by plane somewhere far away, no one would spend money on this, therefore, it is most likely an exchange, but it was well, there were very few logics in their actions , so it was very dangerous to immediately hope and think that you were already flying home, so until the last , until the man got on the bus and said, thank you to ukraine, you can speak ukrainian, you are at home, in i still

had doubts about where we are going, you breathe out, but you still can't realize it. here is the day and whom you were waiting for more than anything in life, you can't fully realize this, i am what happened, i already realized, well, for sure, how we drove to kyiv, it was 10 hours later, you are like a child, it is as if the world was born, you are dragged there, given here, eat, drink, smoke, make calls, and you are just in space, i am often asked, such the first memory or feeling there, i can't say, i didn't understand anything at all, this road to kyiv, it already gives you an awareness of what's real. but really you are at home, you can breathe out, you can not be afraid, turn it in your head, do something wrong, because you come back, a terribly frightened person, you are afraid to do anything, even you you understand, you are already at home, everything is allowed to you , you can do whatever you want here, you almost want to ask if you can get off the bus when you arrived in kyiv, because this stream still lives in you, and who the hell...

why did i call my wife and mother, they already knew that you had been replaced, no one knew anything at all, they found out from me when i called that i had been replaced, and they all quickly left for kyiv to meet me and she was able to be happy and talk, and what you said, i said, at first there was such a pause, that who am i, and this is this pause, that this is also for them... we talked there with mariana, then with my mother, how did they perceive this information, just like me, you wait for this day the most in your life, and when this moment doesn't happen, you just get completely confused and you don't feel anything, in short, the first conversation, it's like that, a few words from me, a few words from them, although everyone has to say to each other there, well, the car is just everything, because no one i can't help

myself, and then a little time passed, i took the phone from our girl, who was with us i wrote again... and even then we had a more extensive conversation, both from me and from my mother and my wife, we already understood where we were going, where they could drive up, then the next day in the morning we met for the first time , of course, also a meeting, very emotional , i thought for a whole year what you wanted to say, and you stand here and you just don't know what to say anymore, you can't say that they experienced less than us, being here, because this is a struggle and their experiences, their ignorance, this cannot be done before they experienced a lot and they too you need a rest and recovery after that, in a month of official leave after captivity, you definitely can’t catch up with what you couldn’t do in a year and a half, and even more so what you planned, you didn’t have the feeling that it was

all for me ? i didn't have a feeling of exactly what all this was for, of course i had an unpleasant feeling of betrayal and misunderstanding, why so, why we were one of the strongest units in the country at that time, they didn't want to develop us, they put... sticks in our wheels , they didn't give us weapons, they didn't hire us foreign training, nato instructors were not given, we had to learn all this ourselves, we learned all this on our own, we organized our yevhen konovaltsya school for training sergeants, we are the first who normally, correctly, in fact really switched to nato standards, both management and the conduct of the battle, as well as the internal organization, and all the time until... the moment of a full-scale war, they put sticks in the wheels, that instead of shooting from something good, there for me personally, only at the expense of the fact that this gun was laborious, we had to work

with the stalin-3 1947 model, which was removed from the pedestal. our top commanders have very big questions about this, and even more about mariupol. when we win and bring this story to the right end. we are catching up with them, specifically those because of whom we got into this situation, because of whom my friends died and because of whom one of the strongest units in the country was briefly, but broken, everything will end and it began, like this, in one day, we will simply stand up and someone dies or something will happen there that we will be able to solve all our questions in a day or a week. and another opinion is that it will be long, 100% very difficult for everyone, but it should definitely end with our exit to our

territories in the amount of 100%. and diplomatically and economically , i will drive the enemy to sobacha, because if we do not do this, if we do not bring this matter to an end, they will gain strength, they will find here again russian-speaking or ... procal tourists who can come to them, they will come one more time, and we'll end up being everything anyway one thing to lose more. chevrons approaching victory. oh, gray hair, yes and with'. generous evening, good evening , good people are healthy, all the gardens have flown,

generous evening, good evening, good people are thirsty, in one and never happened, this christmas ukrainians will remember one thing, a challenge that thousands of defenders overcome to help them in this process, the state created a grant program for veterans and their family members, which

is implemented by the ministry of economy of ukraine. applying for a veteran's grant is easy and convenient through action. give and receive up to uah 1 million to start or develop your own business. dear viewers, welcome , it's time to talk a little bit about the future, take a breather from the events that we are there, the current events that we have discussed during this week, and talk about where we are going, how we are going, today we will just say a few words about the international events, thank god, we already have a lot to say about our events, the final press conference of the president, we heard a lot of new and interesting things, what we might still want to discuss and clarify, in fact, eru prokofiev and i proposed to our three favorite guests, experts, and now for the next two hours we will

talk about this, about what will be next. a year about who will fight, about how we will keep them, what we will fight with, what we are capable of, what we are able to provide for ourselves, in what part we need support, it is necessary to finish, well, actually, let's present our dear guests, this is valentyn gadkikh, political expert, good evening, good evening, thank you for tymofiy mylovanov, president of the kyiv school of the economy, ex-minister of economic development, adviser to the head of the president's office, good evening, and maksym dzhugun, political scientist, good evening to you, i congratulate you, gentlemen. let's start, as i promised, from the international side , an event happened that we all expected, the last few months have been very unpleasant, you know, internally, this situation that we have with poland has been so unpleasant, it started with what seemed like a small misunderstanding, it's gotten to the point where our biggest system partners have blocked our throats on our biggest artery of supplying everything from bread and ending with drones, in fact today the minister of foreign affairs of poland, radisław

sykorski... arrived in kyiv, what can you say about this visit, what a signal it is for us and how optimistic it would be to expect that everything will quickly return to our relations as they were were, well, two years ago? look, there is internal politics in poland, whether we like it or not, there are internal conflicts and there are its own citizens , whose views are necessarily taken into account by polish politicians, and one must understand... that polish transporters have lost huge incomes as a result of the situation we have today, and it is necessary to understand that they are seriously tied, their labor market is seriously tied to the ukrainian one, in particular, well, in particular , drivers, this is one aspect, the second aspect - this is a question of agricultural products, and it should be understood that, unlike ukraine , poland is dominated by small and medium-sized farmers, and poland seems to have almost the smallest

average age. just people who work in agriculture, and it is powerful the electoral group, and this political force , this is the so-called confederation, yes, which actually is behind these events, well, they have no real connection with russia, that is , of course, there is a great temptation to see a russian trace in everything, but language is all - still it should be said that this is a triangle of relations, on the one hand it is mutual between poland and the european union, the poles demand some kind of comp' from the european union. these are concessions, and on the other hand, these are relations between poland and ukraine, well, because ukraine also has certain interests of its own, zelenskyi simply clearly said, well, at the press conference , which i will not quote verbatim, but he correctly said in terms of content that i should defend the interests of ukrainian citizens, but the polish government also defends the interests of polish citizens, polish politicians defend the interests of polish citizens, well, respectively, and here again, these triangles arise, as i said, poland-eu, poland. ukraine, ukraine,

eu. and, to be honest, i look with optimism that a compromise will be found after all, that part of the demands put forward, well, actually saying, those who are behind these political actions, they will have to withdraw, give in, part of their ambitions, i will put it this way, we will have to give in, and part of the compensation will have to be paid to the european union from their own pockets, this is called a compromise. it's called a compromise , but you just have to understand that in poland in the near future there will be elections for local self-government bodies, that is, the elections that took place today are just one of the stages, and to ignore them now and go against your own voters, well polish politicians won't be able to, so they, well, no one will forcefully disperse these protestants, you have to realize that, i will repeat that polish farmers are a significant electoral group, but i will repeat that you don't

need to see behind all this. you know, some kind of global conspiracy and that everything is now a disaster , no, it won't be like that, i'm sure that, well , brussels will pay for everything in the end, let's say so , let's say so, and that's good, well, i don't want to say, just well, if ukraine is on the way to european integration, poland, the point is that europe has already repeatedly offered to pay poland in the form of creating some alternative ways of supplying these goods through the territory of poland to the nearest european ports, currently there. the poles were not satisfied with this, they said: we will protest as we protested, here is what valentyn said about the importance of farmers, i will also say that the field of logistics brings about 17% of the gdp of the polish state, and this is a crazy argument in favor in order to treat them more carefully and more gently, therefore representatives have already said.