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then the program is signed and it is, in a certain way, a substitute for these democratic elections, and we see what kind of programmatic principles will be introduced by these or other parties into the program of the coalition, then , according to the programmatic principles, they will be able to delegate people to the coalition government as well, but it seems to me that just there is one problem in the current bank, her last name is poroshenko, where the last name sounds. poroshenko, this throws the government into some irrational model of behavior, despite the fact that poroshenko says very important things and does very useful things at all international platforms, the government does not stop, putting sticks in the wheels not only for him personally, for the entire european solidarity faction, but i would like the current government to listen to the experienced ones and adopt rational and... some ideas, well, it seems that this is
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an emotional factor, psycho-emotional, and it very rigidly blocks any creation of a coalition of national unity. thank you, mr. volodymyr, it was volodymyr tsybulko, a political scientist, i wish you happy holidays and a happy new year, see you on the air in 2024. to each other, friends, we we are working live on the tv channel, as well as on our platforms on youtube and facebook, for those who... are watching us live on youtube right now, please like this video, don't be stingy, because your like promotes this content in trends youtube, in addition, take part in our vote, today we ask you about whether ukraine needs a government of national unity, yes, no, please vote on youtube with two functions or options, yes, no, choose, you can write comment below this video, and if you watch us on
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tv, then pick up your smartphone and vote if you think ukraine needs a government of national unity, 0.800 211 381, no 0800 211 382, all calls to these numbers are free, we are at the end program, we will sum up the results of this vote. next, we have a diplomat, an expert on foreign and security policy of the center for defense strategies oleksandr khare. mr. oleksandr, i congratulate you and thank you for being with us today. good evening, mr. sergey, thank you for the invitation. first of all, congratulations happy diplomat's day, today is the ukrainian diplomat's day, so my most sincere congratulations to you. thank you, and of course to all colleagues who both abroad and in ukraine defend the, let's say this, well in peacetime we say the first line of defense, because in fact a lot depends on them and the prevention of war, and now of course international support and that we survive and become european. let's talk about
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international support, starting with the visit to ukraine by the minister of foreign affairs of poland in the new government radislaw sikorski, he arrived in kyiv, there is already information that he met with the president of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, you can see on twitter that he wrote that in the morning he was already in kyiv, and the president of ukraine thanked sikorsky for... the support of ukraine from poland in opposition to the full-scale russian invasion and the provision of shelter to ukrainian citizens fleeing hostilities, but despite the fact that sikorsky arrived in kyiv in a symbolic manner, and this is his first visit abroad after being appointed as the minister of foreign affairs of poland, nevertheless, information appears again that there are about 4,000 trucks at the entrance to ukraine.
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blocking the ukrainian-polish border again, you can explain how, with the right diplomatic messages, this blocking of the only large western border, the only western window that is in ukraine, is still happening, where is the responsibility of the polish authorities for all this? and where there are sincere demands. protestors who protest come and cause billions of dollars in damage to ukraine, despite the fact that the polish government helps our people, those who moved to poland, to the refugees , and at the same time, causing such damage in ukraine , well, first of all, of course, this is a very important visit, and you know, i would draw a parallel with the fact that the first visit of the newly appointed minister of foreign affairs . of the affairs of the united kingdom, it was
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kyiv, not some other capital, the same with sigorsky, what a great friend ukraine is, but we must also always remember that there are national interests of each state and they. they are protected, well, by and large , sykorsky himself said today that between friends can have disagreements in the old age or in the economic plan, and that is precisely why, in order to solve them, he came not alone, but with the ministers who are actually responsible for these fields, it was very interesting to read the statement of the minister of agriculture, who says that we have to solve the problem of oversaturation of ukrainian agricultural products in... in general and ukraine in particular, so we see that this government will also quite pragmatically defend its interests, but of course there will be no such politicization as we saw in well, at least in the last period of the previous government, let's see how
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sincerely they are, let's say, ready to make certain concessions, although by and large all these problems that we have with poland now, well , first and foremost, they are thanks to that. .. because the russian federation carried out and continues its aggression against us, previously blocked the counters, and that is exactly why we had to redirect the flow of our goods through poland and other countries, and of course, the fact that ukraine acts within the framework of their agreements and the agreement on comprehensive deepening free zone trade, as well as those additional agreements that were reached between ukraine and european partners after the large-scale invasion, so let's see how well it will fit into what the poles want from us in the general framework of the eu and those agreements that exist, and what they they want, let's say, in addition to this, the trojan horse of the european union, viktor
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rorban stated that the ukrainian community is not ready for ukraine's entry into the european union, in an interview with the hungarian tv channel, the hungarian tv channel novynia. and he declared that, well, you don't have to be a scientist to understand that this decision will do a lot of damage. let's hear what orbán said. you don't need to be a scientist to understand that the decision to start negotiations on ukraine's accession to the eu will bring a lot of harm. we are not prepared, we do not know actual numerical indicators. we are talking about a country on the territory of which russian soldiers are stationed, they will also be accepted. what territory are we talking about, what is the population? mr. oleksandr, orban always tries to manipulate because it is clear what the number of ukrainians is, he knows what territory is recognized by the world, and this
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territory is within the territory that was acquired by ukraine after the restoration of independence in 1991, taking into account. by what happened on 14-15 in brussels, it is meant how orban went out somewhere to drink coffee and this decision was made there without him, orban continues to be a problem for the european union, or is he still trying to rehabilitate himself in front of vladimir putin, because what happened on the 14th in brussels happened exactly on the same day when orbana and fico were very praised vladimir putin, well, first of all. to say, you know, as pajana serdin said that either padishah or ishak will die, then of course, when ukraine is ready to join the european union, there will definitely not be such a person on the political map of hungary or europe, and by the way, the same sikorskyi said that he wants to see ukraine as a member
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of the european union by the end of this decade, that is, in principle, according to such optimistic forecasts, we have six years to fully approach european ... their standards, and of course to end with a victory this war, the fact that he, shall we say, made certain concessions, taking into account the pressure that was exerted, and on the other hand, bribery, the unblocking of certain, shall we say, funds that the european union will provide to hungary, this is one story, because all know that the europeans, european integration is a long process, but its blocking of aid now, which we need in order to... not lose in this war and, on the contrary, have a positive result, i think it is more important that, let's say this , putin received from his junior partner or a person who is trying to be under the nato security umbrella, and in those favorable economic conditions of yesiv
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, i mean, let's say, to serve as such an ambassador of putin inside and undermine the mouths of the european union, but even so he is a problem. and of course, that the possibility of how to solve this problem is already being considered, whether it is to take away the right to vote, this is in european legislation, or in a more strategic perspective of change. the mechanisms by which decisions are made in the european union, that is, this is the orban factor fined the europeans, the rest of the europeans, to rethink the decision-making mechanisms. well, it is clear that now 50 billion euros are at stake, which the european union must allocate, or vote for allocation, by the european union to the ukrainian state, and again, here there is a stand in the way of these 50 billion euros. orbán is , in your opinion, banal political, political
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jealousy and financial jealousy, because it is clear that hungary, despite what they say, well , what is there, what is there with ukraine, what is it with its problems, is joining the european union, but hungary , on the other hand, poses more problems for the european union, because it is a small country, it does not have a developed agriculture, as in ukraine, and it is in principle, well, not even... measured territories, disproportionate sizes and disproportionate economies, and of course, that without the money that the european union is currently promising and is going to provide to ukraine, hungary, in principle, might live in a completely different way, and we are talking about the fact that hungary takes from the same basket from which it is given to ukraine, correct? well, in principle, yes , of course, that he moved alone, and cut him you can on different points and of course that in the future we will have certain friction with poland and with other countries that have a large
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agricultural sector, and it is clear to the mind that ukraine is a powerful competitor to such states in this sense, but orban is primarily a problem for the european union from another point of view, from a value point of view, since he tries to cover himself with some conservative ideas, in fact he destroys. the consensus that ensured the creation of the european union, its existence, and it is a model for certain authoritarian leaders in the european union, as well as he is a great friend of the right-wing country in the united states, and that is why, in the ideological plan , he does much more damage than such small or big vices to ukraine. mr. alexander, let's go back to the united states of america. because we see how the election campaign is already unfolding there, it is clear that
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a lot depends on who wins the next elections, including regarding aid to ukraine and the position of the united states of america, regarding the russian-ukrainian war the supreme court of the state of colorado disqualified donald trump as a candidate for the presidency of the united states of america, forbidding him to participate in the state's primaries. well, the decision itself concerns. primaries, which will be held in colorado on march 5, but may affect trump's status already in the state in the general election on november 5, here is what this court decision means, how it may affect the overall result of the presidential election in the united states of america, or whether may be barred from running for office or from the state of colorado participation in the primaries. trump and other states, what does this mean? that is, it means that if trump
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wins the election, then either he will not be allowed to run for the election, or if he wins, his victory will not be so convincing and will not be legitimate. well, first of all, it should be said that more than 90 charges have been brought against trump in several cases, and there are both criminal and, therefore, civil ones, including in relation to his business. and in principle, we will still hear the decisions of the judges, which can prevent him much more from continuing this pre-election race and participate in these elections. if we are talking about the supreme court of colorado, then the nuance of this decision is that, first, it is not yet effective, because it actually provides that the supreme court of the united states can cancel this decision. second, you are correct. they said it only affects the primaries, that is, it is within the framework of, well, the elections within the republican
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party, when they will nominate someone from their party, but there is no such ban in general elections, that is, even if, for example, conditionally speaking, this decision will not be protested, this means that trump will lose only 10 electors, in the united states, they do not have a direct election system, where citizens are registered, they choose voters, who then vote. for some kind of candidacy, so yes, of course, now it's an unpleasant, small inconvenience for trump, i also want to remind you that about 20 similar cases are still pending in others. states, that is, they can also make similar decisions. let's put it this way, the republicans of colorado, they say, we can change the form of decision-making with, well actually with primaries to the caucus, that is, when they gather, well , we can say so, the party asset and can nominate trump as a candidate. this is one of the options. the next option is
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the decision of the supreme court of the united states, and they also have two options. in fact, the first option, they can decide on another case, in fact, the special prosecutor, who , therefore, went to the supreme court, clarify whether trump's activities are covered by this immunity when he was president, if the supreme court decides that he had immunity, then all these cases in 20 states, they are falling apart , that is, they are just, well, they will be worthless if the court... decides that the supreme court of colorado has exceeded its authority, that's another story, but then there are political nuances, i think, the most important point, these are not legal aspects, but political aspects, first, four, the judges of the supreme court of colorado voted, three were against, all of them were appointed by
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various governors of the democratic direction, in the supreme court, there are nine judges, three from the democrats. six republicans, and three were appointed by trump himself, and they will now make such a decision, which is not only important for trump in a specific case, but they will create that precedent, which will then affect the entire political system, in the united states, the judicial system, it has such, let's say, conditionally also a legislative function, that is, what they adopt, it will later be part of the legislation, and therefore it will be very important for them... the decision made is balanced, how will they interpret this 14th amendment to the third article, the third to be more precise the section which says that those who have taken the oath, if they have been engaged in mutiny or insurrection there, or the like, if they can no longer marshal. no president in the history of the united states
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has had this amendment go without it, and so they will be very careful about it, and most likely. and it will be easier for them to interpret the issue of immunity than to answer the question of whether the court in colorado did the right thing, let's see, the various options are still political, but we also have to take into account the heat of passion in the united states, this a society that is extremely divided, and we also have to take into account the great unpopularity of joseph biden, he just now , i literally watched gallop, 39' before the broadcast. joseph biden's 9% approval rating alone is the lowest since 79, so there's a problem with that too, and trump's popularity is growing, he's now leading republican nominees at 62%, followed by paratroopers at 11.9 and nikily at 10.8 , although there is
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positive news for us, that in new hampshire this gap between nikigeli and... donald trump is actually 2%, 33 in trump, 29 in nikilla. actually, that's why it's too early to say whether this will affect the fact that this person can become president, because the dynamics and, let's say, the competition within the republican party, it's quite interesting, there are certain positive changes in the rating of joseph biden, after that , as he, well, not that he moved, but a cardinal. decreased after he rather ambiguously, or rather, unambiguously, sorry, supported israel in the conflict that is currently raging there, that is, it is too early to say, but in principle the trends are quite alarming for us, because trump is popular, and these scandals do not affect him, mr. oleksandr, like
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what is happening now with trump's rating and in general and in... in your opinion, in this situation, biden can use ukraine and help ukraine and the fight against russia is more active. perhaps biden lacks a victory over russia in, say, the russo-ukrainian war in order to gain more support from the americans, that is, to increase aid to ukraine and... as he said, for russia to suffer a strategic defeat, could it be one of the elements of biden's election campaign, because, after all , he has another one now. there is no going forward in this situation, well, traditionally, in elections , more attention is paid to economic and other factors, and taking into account these cultural warriors and what has been
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urgent in the last few years, this is the issue of abortion, this issue of the border and so on, that is, this will play a role the most important role, well, actually connecting the borders of ukraine, taiwan and israel, and the possibility of finding a compromise in the form of common, let's say, bill, is there such an idea that joseph himself biden could sign the executive order and by his decision, well, in fact, strengthen the southern border and somewhat change the policy that causes, well, let's say disapproval among a large number of republicans, but also in principle among centrists, so it seems to me that the search for a compromise on the border and ukraine - this is an important thing. i don't remember the exact numbers, but 2/3 of americans support the provision of aid to ukraine, there is somewhere around 30%, it is something that is at
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the same level, somewhat less, that the aid can be increased, and about a third, which are they strongly believe that it is not necessary to help ukraine, that is, in principle, the picture is more or less positive for us, but trump and some of his entourage, they push this topic away, they talk about the fact that this... money should not be spent on ukraine, because we have our own war on the southern border, that we need to strengthen taiwan in opposition to china, and the united states itself should stop this practice, participate in endless wars and the ukrainian, let's say, ukrainian war with the russian federation, they count here, although in fact not a single american soldier died in our war, because i understood that they are not taking part here, but demagogues in... part of the republican electorate , it is led to such blatant lies and
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manipulation, despite the fact that there are clear numbers that show that the american defense industry itself gets most of the money, and that means jobs, and that means the newest, newest weapons for of the united states, but you know, sometimes demagoguery. wins, thank you, mr. oleksandr, it was oleksandr khara, a diplomat, happy holidays, i remind you, mr. oleksandr, that during this broadcast we are conducting a poll, friends, we are asking you about whether ukraine needs a government of national unity, we are asking about it's on your youtube, we ask you this on tv, if you watch us on youtube, please vote yes, no, if you're sitting in front of the tv, pick up your phone or smartphone and vote if you support the idea of... creation of the government of national unity in ukraine 0800-211381 no 0800-211-382. all calls to these numbers are free, vote, at the end of the program
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we will sum up the results of this vote. next , we have a special agent, an officer of the armed forces of ukraine, ihor lapin. mr. major, i welcome you and thank you for being with us today. glory to ukraine. glory to heroes. first of all, mr. major, i would like to hear your impressions. about the results of the year from the supreme commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine volodymyr zelenskyi, whether he was convincing president at the annual press conference, and what aftertaste did you have after zelenskyi's public appearance in front of journalists? well, let's be honest, if we analyze it completely, of course, the format of the program should be delayed, but if we talk about the main... things that i expected to hear from the president, well, at least, i still expect for the second year that he at least once he will come out and say: sorry, yes, people, sorry, i still didn’t think that putin would get away, i was sure that
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there was enough common sense in russia, that’s why we then we continued to think about 7 billion instead of expanding the armed forces of ukraine, we continued to roll asphalt instead of concreting the eastern borders and northern borders, and so on, from the enemy, that is, even telling you about this stupidity. and kebabs, i actually understand that i put a lot of people in danger who died together with their children in shot cars, in traffic jams on the zhytomyr highway, or somewhere in buch, or in virpin, or near gostomil airport and so on. that is, forgive me, dear ukrainians, i understand that this is my cross and i will carry it until the end of my life. that would be the introduction. and further, further, i would expect to hear at least something from the president about our victory. how he sees the end of the war and the victory itself , yes, because we have all heard the peace formula, because the peace formula has nothing in common, nothing to do with reality, you know, it is...
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zelensky's dreams, well, it is not for nothing that politico magazine called him the main dreamer , yes, that is , he is in first place there in the ratings, here, but there are no 10 points in this peace formula, which they presented, with which they carried around like a fool with an empty bag, from those 10 points there is not a single realistic scenario regarding ukraine's accession to nato, because it is precisely the absence of a threat from russia that is our victory, because everything else is not a victory, it's blah blah blah. because having reached, no, not like that, having reached the borders of 1991, on the shoulders of those who broke into the army in february and so on, well, we will not reach there, but even if we do reach those borders, then what next, the russians into space they will fly away, no, the russians will stop bombing us, no, the russians will change their minds about exterminating ukrainians as a nation, no, they
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will abandon... their plans to seize the territories that they simply included in their constitution, zaporizhzhia, kherson oblast, zaporizhia oblast, within their administrative borders, it must be given to zaporizhzhia, including donetsk, luhansk oblast, no, they will not refuse it, the question is open to mr. zelensky, so what is the formula for our victory, because there is no formula for peace, that's all baltology, blah blah blah, and what is victory then, how are you going to secure it. the state of ukraine from russian attacks without joining nato. it would be logical, of course , to say that in order for us to join nato, at the moment when our soldiers reach the border, ukraine must make 10, 50, 100 reforms that provide for the country's accession to nato, so that our western partners then they didn't poke their noses that you don't have such justice here and the anti-corruption fight has failed. therefore, i assign the task to parliamentarians. law number 1, 2, 3, 4, 10, 50, everything, accept these. laws
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while the soldiers are fighting, you are obliged to do such and such as part of joining nato, these would be plans that people would consider a victory plan, a security plan after entering the border in 1991, so what? further, what proposals did, for example, president zelenskyy make to western partners, please tell me whether the military actions on the territory of ukraine, the collapsed economy, a lot of refugees, a third of the population no longer live in ukraine, please tell me whether this is not a reason for... of president zelensky, who, like, how are some bad journalists they said, well, you are dragging this international. please tell me if this is not a reason to turn to our western creditors in order to write off the debts in ukraine, at least. listen, well, when the americans give us grants, that is, they give us money, well, permanent aid. european partners give us the lion 's share of loans with interest. the loan, the state debt of ukraine to date
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is actually, if i'm not mistaken. 100% of our gdp, how are we going to give it away, the war is not even yet, well, it is not even visible yet in the end, this is where the president's work is, it is also connected with our victory, then there are 300 billion frozen assets, the americans are now starting to negotiate with the west, with all partners, so that after all those frozen russian assets are transferred to ukraine for weapons, for what do we need please tell me how many negotiations you conducted. president zelenskyi within these frameworks, so that the frozen assets should still be handed over to us, because as far as i know, the european community in general does not even know now whether ukraine should pay interest on those frozen assets, and not i'm talking about the assets themselves, and they don't even have a mechanism, so what are you doing, mr. president, being responsible for foreign policy and national security in the context of those sentences that i just uttered, well, you understand, and this is the aftertaste, that's what it's called we
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listened the main dreamer of the country about how he, like these teachers with a salary of 4000 €, will walk among the trees, a billion trees that they planted, and somewhere there make a million drones, this is what we heard, we heard that 26 00 drones are lying syllables, i did not hear the name of the person who was arrested by our security forces of the dbr, yes, because it is frank, it is treason, because not to hand it over... to the guys today, with a shortage of shells, do not hand over fpv drones to the defense forces, and this is not what treason is , well, this doesn’t come to my head at all, he’s like that , you know, a newsmaker, he came out and told the news: we have 26,000 drones in warehouses, where is that army of drones, we have volunteers pulling this strap, and so on, then there is for today - well , at least zelensky should have understood that...
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