over state interests, and here not only ukraine suffers from this process , israel and taiwan also suffer, that is, this is a historical level, this is a historical level of problematic, and i will say this, precisely those congressmen from the republican party who are currently in their positions and accept participation in these battles, they are that shameful cohort that from... in the historical context, as the general shame of the capital hill. as for europe, europe was not ready to be completely replaced by the us military-technical component. the usa is the main dominator in supporting ukraine in issues of the military and technical composition. and it will be very difficult for europe, but we can see even now that they are trying to do it.

to do, well, for example, germany instead of 40 mardors sends 120, for germany it is quite a serious, serious test, and besides everything else, many points we don't really know, it would have been such a surprise for me personally, when i saw that from canada it turns out that the thousandth rochelle armored car was sent to ukraine, although it was previously known that it would a little more than 200 units of these armored vehicles were sent, but now we see that it is already the thousandth, that is, we do not know all the aspects, all the moments, so really the military-industrial complex of europe, it cannot sufficiently serve all the needs of ukraine, but in general it is increasing its production , and i will say this, when i mentioned the new... phase of warfare in

2024, which not everyone will be able to understand, exactly where we are going and where our immediate victory is, i will say a little different, and this period we will be mostly in defense, and it is this defense, it will help us survive all the difficult times of political turbulence, but very soon we will see that the situation will level out completely and... in the other direction, why? because the generally civilized west needs the victory of ukraine, because if ukraine loses this war, then the west will be next, it will be the expansion of destabilization on the european part of the continent, and no one needs this, neither the european union, nor the united states, so help, it will be at a sufficiently high level, but after a while time there will be this kind of pause in...

connected with these turbulent phenomena in certain countries, primarily in the usa. mr. oleksandr, thank you for the conversation, oleksandr kulenko, a military-political commentator of the information resistance group, was with us, we thank our viewers who actively donated for 15 minutes of conversation, 11 more uah, or even 13 00 uah were added to our collection, and my viewer sent me a screenshot of what he also did before... thank you, mr. yuriy, for joining, in the meantime i promised that i would pass on something, i failed, dear friends, so try number two, so 200, so what is it, why not the internet, here gave us in the shelter with the internet, i will definitely do it, if you have access to the internet and you like it if you can do it, then please scan the qr code, now, you see it, yes, we are collecting for... simulation stations for our

military, this is our donation today, it is actually for the christmas carol, for the fact that we we can do this christmas carol, thanking those soldiers who are now defending our land, who are now on at the front, who now do not have a feeling of a holiday, so let's thank them in this way for everything they do for us and for our country, so what, we now add to the... conversation the ethnographer and honored artist of ukraine oksana stebelska , yes, yes, we are here, oh, mrs. oksana appears, christ is born, we celebrate him with christmas, thank you, and you too, are you in ukraine, because i know that you were in germany for some time, i generally currently on tour in europe, and now i'm coming to you on the air. from germany and

my musicians came from kyiv and we had a concert tour called happy christmas with ukraine, because ukraine is officially celebrating for the first time this year. christmas together with europe, and with these concerts, we wanted to tell europe that a happy christmas without peace and tranquility in ukraine is impossible, not only in europe, but in the whole world, and you know how, as you can hear, i can hardly even speak. because every day for two weeks we have different cities, and every day concerts, meetings with ukrainians and foreigners, and you know, these concerts are for me - it's not just music, because we perform... both classical music, and folklore, and jazz improvisation, we make a whole lot of different ukrainian music, but it's primarily communication, communication and conveying information first-hand, because after all the concerts we just talk to people for two or three hours, you know, this is a time when hearts open and people always

want to know more, ah, people pay attention to those who are sick at the moment, who are in need, think about to help someone is a very... good period just you know, to share information, to tell not only that we have a war and it's bad for us, and we are suffering, but also to tell that we have a huge potential, we have a rich cultural heritage, and we are very, we are part of the european, of the european community, and we also want to have a merry christmas, and we want to convey our culture, our art, immerse ourselves in it, smile, greet, hug, and not - as we are now exposed to be afraid of aggressor bombs. mrs. oksana, you say that you tell a lot you talk not only with ukrainians who are abroad because of the war, scattered in different countries, but also with foreigners, in fact today i already had a turn-on for polish

television, because they asked about our christmas, because for europeans, for the rest of the world, actually the most important holiday is christmas , and more... for the new year, it's time for some parties, meanwhile, we lived in the soviet union, where christmas was banned, and all traditions were destroyed, and a new holiday, such a substitute for christmas, was a new year and new year table, they replaced 12 herbs with saltwater fish, and what else was put there, and olivier, my god, how did i forget, and actually a foreigner, but it is actually difficult for foreigners to explain our entire history, how it is that these traditions were destroyed somewhere , somewhere... remained, somewhere somehow they are trying to recover now, especially during a full-scale invasion, when there was such an interest, actually in who we are, what we are, and for example, my stepdaughter, she is now in ireland , says that the irish were very interested in the traditions

of ukrainian christmas, because they have their irish christmas tradition, in fact, and besides, ireland is very similar in history to ukrainian, but, in fact, they do not have it, they have such a celebration. very similar to the american christmas, the one we know from some hollywood movies, there is a baked turkey, and some such and such christmas sweaters and so on, and they were very interested to learn about our 12 dishes, it was difficult for teresa to translate some things into the english language, because there is no such counterpart, but they are so even with such a kind white envy heard about how our traditions have been preserved, those foreigners with whom you spoke... what do they ask about our christmas, what do they know, you know, in ours, you know, we are rich in diversity, and we also say this all the time, actually , no matter which country you and i come to, or no matter who comes, we always first of all want to be interested in the country,

this culture of this country, even go to some folklore concert, let's say, get acquainted with traditions, visit a museum , well, in order to get to know this people better. and in principle it is exactly so here myself, i build these programs in this way, i sow wheat and say: sow, rye and wheat will be born , for luck, for health, for that new year, so that it will be better like that year, hemp under the ceiling, a line of knees, so that you have the godson's head didn't hurt and so on, and at the end of the concert, because during the concert you don't tell it, because it's a whole drama of a kind, yes, already at the end we tell that there are things to which we you are used to... for us there is nothing special, we are used to sowing, and we are used to planting to carry grandfather to the house, we are used to cooking 12 dishes, but when you start telling a foreigner about all this, it's all nonsense, because you, i don't even realize to myself that it turns out that these are some things so unique that no one guesses and which

other peoples do not have, and even this sowing, when we not only speak, but sow wheat and in this way make our happy harvest year, so is it... grandfather is a symbol of the harvest year, gathered from his own harvest, from ears of corn, and he is present on the table during christmas, as well as a symbol of happiness year and wishes for a happy one. next year, in general, if you compare all european countries, the ukrainians have the most preserved folk folk carols, christmas carols and new year's songs, even the fact that when i tell you that in our country, andre, the leader, completely different songs are sung on the eve of the holidays christmas, others for the new year, others for the jordan, and we have religious content, and everyday, that is, in fact, it is a huge depth and it is huge. a cultural layer that is really very interesting to foreigners, about our tradition of nativity scenes, is this improvised

theater, yes, this is also a whole separate topic, you can talk about it a lot, that is why i am talking about the fact that in addition to the concert, in addition to the program in which we demonstrate it, i then have to explain a lot of everything, and really foreigners to myself we are opened through culture, so when we talk about cultural diplomacy actively, it is precisely about this, because you know, in the information space there is a lot of... a lot of information about the war, everyone is a little tired of it in the world, i understand that this is wrong, this not moral it's not ethical but we, let's be realistic, they are really tired, because on holidays they want to isolate themselves from negativity, they want to search for each in their heart, you know, love, positivity, goodness and so on, and to be honest, because of these emotions , well, because of such emotions, ah, some kind of positive impression, because of these emotions to give them and... information about the fact that it is really a war, which cannot be forgotten, that a happy christmas without peace in

ukraine is impossible, it is unreal, and we even sometimes we teach them, we teach them a few there, let's say a few words there, a few melodies of ukrainian carols, so that it will sink in, so that they can hum there, remember and remember us even at their festive festive table, and by the way, our last concerts were in germany, even yesterday with the germans, i talked, i say, tell me: what is your most popular german carol, they tell me, there is a holy night, a quiet, night, i say, but it ’s an austrian one, well, it’s austrian, but it came to us, there then, you understand, that is, in the principles of tradition are european, they are already like that mixed enough, even there in germany they sing spanish, italian, austrian, but to say which german is so folkloric, so not original, you have to think for a very long time, we don’t need to think, we start from good evening, you’re new she rejoiced, god is creating and so on. and so on, we can sing for 5-6 hours without being musicians, but just gathering at the festive table as a family,

because it came to us with mother's milk, we, you know, this is our connection with our family, uh, and even cooking this kuti, no matter where been, in which country, at work or on tour or at home, we will always find an opportunity to cook it, and even if we are not together, here is my daughter in kyiv, yes, and yesterday, thanks to modern technologies... and zoom and and everyone video communications, she prepared a corner in her place, we are here in her place and we celebrated this christmas, this christmas eve together through online communication, so it is very, very important for everyone in their place to convey as much information as possible, just even, i say to smile, to say hello, to say where you are from, who you are, just to be friendly people around in every country in the world, the world where you are, and we will then get millions of supporters. of ukraine, even because of tradition, because of christmas, this is a very good way for us to do it. madam

, you mentioned at the beginning that it is important for us that we are diverse, that is our strength, but nevertheless, is there not a certain weakness of ours, that is, if you are spanish, you will hear these days happy dates, if you speak english, then for sure merry christmas, in ukraine they can say merry christmas, which in fact will sound the same in russian tools the usual greeting on these days of the seventh... they celebrate and, or for example, they can say in the west of ukraine happy holidays, which in fact is the same in polish merry svants, but we also have christ is born, or god is born, or christ is born, which is more ukrainian, it is certainly found nowhere else, do we have to choose some of those options now, or can we continue to stay a little bit with polish influence, a little bit with russian, and that is also our

strength , you know, in my opinion it is necessary to leave from the linguistic context of the ukrainian language, we don't have to choose anything and we don't have to give up anything, we always celebrated christmas from roman to jordan, the truth is, we have a whole cycle of holidays, we don't have just one christmas, i also constantly talk about it , because we don't have zaki, why even now it's a little difficult for us to adapt. before that, to the new calendar, because our holiday is not limited to christmas and holy suppers, we understand that we still have vasyl molanka there, and then we have yordan, the second saint and so on further, therefore... when we want to say hello and wish happy holidays and we say happy holidays, it means from roman to jordan that all holidays be fun, calm, cozy, well, in the current contact, context, so that to us, as they say, and the bombs did not fly, so that there would be peace in families, so that we understand that we can let the holiday into our hearts, but at the time when we celebrate christmas eve, we say,

christ is born, because precisely on these days we celebrate birth. the coming of christ and with it the birth of each of us, the birth of the new year, just as we have wedding ceremonies when we welcome the new year, or when we go to jordan, we say, christ is baptized in the jordan river, because as far as the ukrainian language and the ukrainian context are concerned, all these wedding ceremonies are suitable for us , because i say once again, the whole cycle is important for us, right up to the meeting, ms. oksana, i also want to ask you about the new year, which is now upon us. we will also have a new new year without this new year prefix, but the presence of the old new year meant that we somehow revived the tradition lightning and basil or driving a goat, and actual sowing in the morning of january 14, and now it is shifted to december 31 - january 1, and the tradition

of the new year in ukraine, it is quite soviet. will malanka and vasyl actually be able to defeat the soviet new year tradition, or will the seedings be able to defeat olivier? i will say, it's not easy, because of course, you know, tradition is such a very ingrained thing, and especially when you had two new years and you had two options, so to celebrate, to honor, but you know, it all depends on... and understanding the context, if you are a conscious person, if you understand, even this transfer is calendar, if you understand why and why, because for me, a traditional person, yes, who grew up in a family where christmas was always celebrated, i can't say that it's simple, you somehow even mentally, physically not ready, because you, we are somehow used to finishing all our affairs in december, so somehow jump into this new year, and then already have

time to cook all 12 dishes, celebrate and so on, for those who did not have this , who does not celebrate... it is easier, i think, yes, because in principle, well, what is the difference, whether on the sixth or on the 20th or 14th, well, that is, there are no such attachments, we have them, but in the understanding of the context, why we do it, for what and what preceded all these changes, yes, in the understanding of this, well it gets easier as far as the new year is concerned i know i think sowing is the morning of the first why it's a good tradition and i think there won't be any problems here. the only thing that will be more difficult with vasyl imolanka, because for these characters, for these heroes, such a separate day was always set aside, and in principle, those people who they even made these christmas nativity scenes , they were preparing for it like this, i don’t know how it is and how it will fit in, let’s say on december 31-1, especially january, especially if

on january 1 everyone is mostly used to getting some sleep, sleeping, well we know, after a stormy night, but you know, i'm always... a fan of carols, and christmas carols, and nativity scenes, and weddings with melanka, if we use these characters and the hero of all the christmas holidays, and even if vasyl and malanka do not appear in principle on january 1, yes, and some other january, there's nothing wrong with that, we just have to uh, well, for those who are more interested, and know how to tell a good deal from a carol, okay, but if for others, who don't, well, don't delve too deeply, yes, in such a specific way, she sings a bountiful bountiful bountiful eye , a swallow flew to er on christmas itself, well, well, let them sing, the whole world is now singing, without this bountiful bird in any country in the world, we can no longer imagine christmas, although we know , that this is our bounty, which is now being sung in our country jordan, in general, this is about the meeting of winter and spring, so you understand, now is a very

cosmopolitan time, but the main thing for us is to fill our information space and... foreign information space as much as possible with our ukrainian content, because we have something to share and and and and fun and lightning, and a nativity scene, holidays, can fill the world with our traditions, they are well preserved for us , despite the fact that they have been destroyed so much, mrs. oksana, thank you for what you have said, for conducting this cultural diplomacy abroad, oksana stebelska, ethnographer, honored artist ukraine was with us, and now we are adding to the conversation serhiy dmitriev, an officer of the military chaplaincy service of the command. of the territorial defense of the armed forces of ukraine, mr. serhiy, christ was born, famous, but i want to make an amendment, military chaplain of the kyiv national institute. at the kyiv national shevchenko university, because my tenure in the territorial defense forces has already ended. sure, fine, we'll make those edits. mr. serhiu,

ukraine is such a country where different religions, stories, different denominations are gathered, and moreover, there is a huge one. of people who do not believe in god, how do they now, well, not so huge, compared to the czech republic or something, i don't know, well, there are, there are a number of people who do not believe in god, is there, is christmas important, how important it is in the context of building ukrainian identity, why christmas should be for everyone, both for those who believe in god and for those who do not believe in god, and for i don't know, for muslims and for christians, eh, well , first of all,... i am right now with my brother, a crimean serviceman a tatar, a muslim , artem santelbaev, and we sang carols today, next to me

there are servicemen who sing carols, if you allow, at the end we can sing a single for you as well and congratulate our viewers with christmas, this is an element of our culture, today is christmas, ukrainian christmas itself is an element of our culture, culture and traditions are preserved. our nation, because if we don't have our christmas, there will be christmas, there will be christmas, it will be filled, as our previous speaker told you, it will be filled something else, in ukraine, when there were no ukrainian songs, even before the 14th year , the content was ukrainian, it was weak, it was filled with russian content, which is how it ended, it ended with the war and occupation. territories, well, we don’t have much time, so if you have a fan of akhtem, which we would be, we are very happy, you see, then let ’s carol together, call akhtem and

the carolers, while you ask more questions, they are already are leaving, i called them because they are in the neighborhood, and what, i, what to do with those who decided that they do not testify, testify after all, from the sixth to the seventh, what would you say to them, we are... a democratic country that respects religious freedom, but we must unite, unite around these values ​​with other european countries, and i am glad that today we unite with the christians of the whole world and have a secular christmas together, and call akhtem again, please, but just then the bellmen came, they are our officers and servicemen of the armed forces of ukraine, and we have archtem. christ is born star we can sing we can sing

live yes please maybe good evening.

he hears you, ukrainian people, peace , health and goodness, christ is born, glory, thank you, fantastic, thank you very much for this mood, and it's just super, super, thank you, thank you serhiy dmitriev, the military chaplain and his carolers , among which, as you noticed, was akhtem seitablayiv, a ukrainian christmas, it unites everyone, and it is special, thank you dear. friends, you were with us, lesya vakulyuk, andriy saichu, in this studio, in this and in another, normal, peaceful, we worked for you, stay with the express, we will try,

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