in the future, as a butterfly effect, those people can grow from them, who will then break the backbone of this regime. mrs. yevgenia, would you like to ask for a rhetorical question or for your reflection? i'm the only one, that when i was listening to vitaliy and kateryna, and returning anyway, since we don't have much time left, returning to ours. the main topic of the maidan, i think about how interesting human nature is and how amazing the ability, in particular, of ukrainians, to ignore so many danger signals for so many years years, i think about it and think about what i remember, i remembered just now, when we were talking, when we were talking about the annexation of crimea, and when we were talking about the fact that everything was about the war that started later, i

.. when i heard the phrase our crimea for the first time in my life, it was in 1998 and it was on the arabbatskaya arrow, where my parents and i went to the sea, and there i met a boy from peter, who was 10 years old, and he, to me, he said to the child, this is our crimea, we will take it from you, it was in 1998, that is, it was me often, i often i cite this episode from my... childhood, when they tell me that this is putin's war, that if it weren't for putin, nothing would ever happen, that this is putin's russia, and so on, and so on, it was 1998 , and this was before any putin, it was before putin even appeared, that is, putin appeared at the request, i apologize, well, the statement of the press secretary of the president of the russian federation that the russian federation does not nominate any territorial. .. claims to the former to

the former soviet republics until the moment when these republics are to be in alliance with the russian federation, it was and this was a statement on behalf of the president of russia, it was made public on august 24, 1991, what other signals do you need, you can ignore it, well, ukrainians taught shevchenko in soviet schools, love black-bearded and not muscovy, because muscovy strangers are doing evil to you, it was not a signal, i don't understand. and i can only imagine what percentage of violators of this commandment are in this room right now? yes, and it is not for nothing that we talk about the fact that this lawn they tried to cut hair, well how many, almost 400 years, that is, they tried to cut hair, and we understand where they started, they started, oddly enough, from the church, the end of the 17th century, 1688, their... task was to absorb

the ukrainian orthodox church, the second point of their struggle is the destruction of the ukrainian greek catholic church, and this is the so-called church-religious issue, it was extremely important, and we understand what a miracle it is now, how much time has compressed, yes , i.e it is possible to reverse what they reaped or tried... to form over the centuries what we are reaping now, this is the slowness or we see this, they led a large number of those people who can simply be called priests, but this lasted for centuries, and now we also see historical moments, yes, when the church, the ukrainian church, returns to ukraine, this is also an extremely important moment, it is possible for a separate discussion and... the fact that

religious, the religious factor will play a much bigger role than it does now for us too it seems, well, it's true, thank you, we have literally a couple of minutes left, yes, i remember how in the early 2000s, putin brought to moscow the new chief rabbi of russia, and the person he announced as the chief rabbi in the presence of the real the chief rabbi, and i always think, well, why does he still have his own rabbi, well, after all, well, this is some kind of schizophrenia. now i see why, because now this bogus chief rabbi sits at all meetings, talks about the banderites, answers putin's correct questions, yes, always, and so with the church, what was it for it is necessary for the russian orthodox church to incorporate the kyiv metropolitanate, to the point that in fact they have largely made the ukrainian national church a part of their civilizational world, we still have to say that in this territory

, it was lucky in belarus that they simply destroyed the greek catholic church , to which 90% of the population went there, they planted a russian orthodox church and a church there, actually destroyed the belarusian national identity, we see that what... what is happening to belarusians now thanks to this a civilizational experiment , why is it so here, so here, and because there was actually a roof created by moscow over the ukrainian church, and there was simply an invasion of the russian church, roughly like in galicia in the 40s and 50s of the 20th century with that only the difference is that priests from ukraine came here from the ssr, and there just from the russian empire, it's not the same thing, and here's the result, so i... think that this is a very serious issue, and you remember the maidan, call back the maidan, the maidan of bravery, i apologize, i will also wedge myself in, in 2004, i once had the opportunity to attend a service of god, where the priest directly told the parishioners that they should leave here and vote for yanukovych, well, i can even

roughly guess what denomination that priest was, so i can roughly guess, something suggests something for me as well everything became obvious when the new patriarch... kirill, the russian patriarch, placed the flags of all cis member countries near his throne, that is, he was the first to do something that even putin did not dare to do at the time, and this was an absolutely clear demonstration of his intentions, civilizational intentions, and when you think about it, it's just a church, no, first the church is erected, first the russian church marks the territory, and then a russian tank comes to this territory marked by the russian church, everything is very simple, as it has always been on the flag of the ussr. there was a globe that reflects ambitions, and i can just illustrate, very briefly, i have an idea about the globe, just from childhood it was very imprinted in my mind, i even remember this passage, skir bulychov,

from his cycle adventure forests of iron, simple the lords and fathers of professor seliznyov, who collected beasts for casmazo, and they flew , so these exotic beasts were also collected in this galaxy, and here they come, by the way... what became the cartoon secret of the third planet, which some of you may have watched , and in the book, here they fly in search of dr. verkhovtsev, one of the protagonists, to the planet pataliputra, which is the largest market for exotic animals, and there all the cosmic races have their hotels, according to their living conditions and their needs, and the human race there is also a hotel there, guess what it's called, if someone has read it, maybe they know? well, it's called volga-volga, and it's made in the form of a russian terem, and a portiem of kosovarodtsi, and he says, when they come to look for doctor verkhovtsev in such a russian language, that tell him the counterpart in the eight terem, yazheli he и

дальше будет ламат robot waiters hermits, we will ask him to move out of our esteemed inn, that is , the human race is represented by the russian language and russian civilization... others, american, british, none other there are no great civilizations that could fly into space in their minds, well , this is the 15th frame, that’s how it was, i once saw the film captain grant’s soviet children, no one paid attention to it, because it was a children’s film about how they are looking for the captain of the grant, but one of the series began with how marko vavchok meets the swindler vern, both an acquaintance and a person, the publisher who introduces marko vavchok to the swindler, says maria.

crimea, why crimea, our jules verne will never write like ivan sergeyovych already finished yesterday life by suicide in a paris hotel after reading moo-moo, here you have all the civil, this is exactly the circle we need to get out of, because we are still hypertrophying it, you see, we are still living, and this is an important point that should, perhaps, be put on this point of our discussion, by and large, that we should get out of russia from this world is simply rhetorical.

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the prophet isaiah calls the prince of peace, a wonderful counselor. god is with us on christmas day. i wish you all a merry christmas, a good christmas, a blessed, happy, victorious new year for all of us. to the diligent, as to the head of the army, absolute unconditional trust, why so? what do ukrainians know about zaluzhda , you tell me, that 's how it is, they don't know much, well, even a chick doesn't know who her mother is, that's all, our mass media and our friends abroad are too much advertised a counterattack, it was completely inadequate from the point of view of assessing the real situation. they said that we will be in crimea, there is no need to promise the impossible. 80% of ukrainians

oppose territorial concessions. every day of the war is the loss of our loved ones and the loss of territory, so let's stop somewhere. i congratulate you, today on radio svoboda we have as a guest yevgeniy holovakha, director of the institute of sociology of the national academy of sciences of ukraine, doctor of philosophical sciences and professor. good day. i congratulate you. you know, us you were called at the end of the year to ... talk about what emotions ukrainians end this year with, what hopes they have, what hopes they have, why they are disappointed, until the cameras turned on, we had time to exchange a few lines, and you told me they said that you have now completed a large study about the stress of ukrainians, share in more detail, in general, this study is academic, it is designed for two years, we have completed the first year, but we have already... we have already been able to do a lot of interesting things with to clarify with

how ukrainians live in the conditions of a stressful situation caused by the war, and how they, to what extent they overcome and how far in the future they will have the ability to overcome all these stressful situations, and what has this research shown as of now? well, i would say so, if the generalized conclusion that we can draw, it is about a significant, very significant and in many ways possible, even not unexpected, potential of ukrainians to counteract stress, you see, there are so many stressogenic factors now, here you can list them for a very long time, starting with the war itself, the loss of territories , a large number of people who... lost their homes, or simply moved from region to region, that is, we, we understand that this is a very

large number of people, it is millions, and considering that and it is the death of friends and loved ones, it is the deterioration of the economic situation, it is the psychological problems associated with the fact that many families were divorced, and... all this we found that despite additional very terrible stresses, the level of distress, that is, destructive stress. destructive distress is a stable destructive stress that significantly affects the state of health and mental state of people, but the level of distress is not higher now, and this study was in october, november of this year, not higher than it was during the first

year of covid, actually ukrainians, they had a hard time surviving the first year of covid. that's right, there , you will understand, then there were also a lot of stressogenic factors, again people were dying, sick, very difficult, restrictions are big and so on, and so on, and we thought that additional stressogenic factors would again lead to a worsening of the condition people, actually the level of distress among ukrainians is not increased compared to the 20th year, in one of his previous interviews, it was at the beginning. this year you said that ukrainians are generally optimistic and that at that time 50% believed that the war would end in six months, a year, well, first of all, it is already the end of the year, and we can now state that the hopes of these optimists did not come true, because the war has not ended, more now, more now at all no one can say when this war will end, please tell me, it somehow

affected the mood of the optimists for this year, they generally increased, decreased, what about these optimists? and how many of them , so, in general, there are clearly fewer optimists in ukraine, in general, compared to the 22nd year, there are generally fewer optimists in the 23rd, here i will give you such an example, we have such a test, the image of the state in the imagination of ukrainians, and there is one question about the future of ukraine, how you see the future of ukraine and three options. the situation will be better, the situation will be worse and it will remain the same. so, what do i want to tell you? well, so that you have a general understanding of what the situation was before the war. before the war, only 17% of ukrainians believed that the situation would be the same to improve, but in the 22nd year already 3/4 of ukrainians believed that the situation would

improve in the future in ukraine. you can imagine what a surge of optimism there was, despite all the troubles. which, connected with the war and the tragedy, ukrainians anyway, seeing the opportunity, well, several factors contributed to this: the first is that we defended ukraine at the worst time, well, when almost a third of the territories were already occupied and we were expelled from more than half of the territory, expelled, then it was the de-occupation of the kharkiv region, the de-occupation of kherson and so on, then the optimist... grew, and such 78% were optimistic about the future of ukraine, and now, according to our latest data, it is 62% who believe that, that is, we see that in general it has decreased, but it is not a fatal, not a fatal decrease, it was to be expected, i i will even tell you why it was expected

that our ee... expert environment, mass media and our friends abroad too advertised the counteroffensive, and the ukrainian authorities did the same, well , everyone, it was, it was completely inadequate from the point of view of assessing the real situation, and that's it the ukrainians had such a certain, at the end of the 22nd year, a certain euphoria, the best, by the way, you know when the mood was in december 22nd. year before the new year, everyone promised us that we won on the 22nd, and we will be in the crimea on the 23rd, so the 23rd year will be the year of victory for us, that is, in the crimea, we were already told that we will be in crimea, therefore, yes, ukrainians are more pessimistic, and now they already understand that a year and more, now the modal meaning is

a year and more, yes, that is, ukrainians are ready to accept the fact that the war will last a year and more, already ready, and yes they have increased. pessimists, but still the vast majority is optimistic about the end, and this also makes sense, you see, it seems to me that the system of informing people is being rebuilt now , really, there is no need, there is no need for euphoric promises, here euphoria is inadequate optimism, it is joy , which has no reason behind itself, one should not promise the impossible. but it is necessary to understand, and i consider it my deep conviction that, tell me, you understand why russia wants to defeat us in the 26th year, what do you think? why did she say they were us will win in the 26th year? well, maybe they have some calculations that precisely by the 26th year they will strengthen the army, increase the production of weapons,

people will adapt to no, no, not because, well, tell me, but simply the economy of russia will begin to collapse after the 26th year, yes, and they want to this moment, and they themselves understand this very well, and many factors will contribute to this, russia economically... so it will rebuild everything, everything, everything, everything, but the standard of living, starting in two or three years, will begin to fall catastrophically, nothing there will be no other, and all professional, professional economists understand this, and you don’t think that there are complete idiots sitting there, and that is why they decided that if they do not defeat us by the 26th year, then significant problems will begin with the russian economy and with'. the population of russia, russians have no ideology, this, understand, is not a nazi state and not a communist

state, there is no ideology here, the attempt to revive the imperial idea is terrible, it is a temporary event, but it is doomed, and what do you mean by this, that we have to hold out until 2026, we have to hold out until the 26th. to us we need optimism that is not temporary, the kind that was euphoric, that was, we have to know that we have to hold on, the only realistic strategy, to hold on longer than russia, everything, there is no other, even what they could offer us, disappointed our friends, well , that is, there is some line, some line, if you stop there. this is for us, we understand that russia will not stop, it does not have such lines, we understand it better than they do, so we just have to endure, we have to realize our

potential resistance, stress and disappointment, what is the trend, but these are emotional reactions, and we just have to make it clear to people, and it's against the background of these unrealistic promises, so i'll just add that this edition of the bill published information with a reference to intelligence data about 2026 and i know about this, i understand why, i just understand why, because russian experts in particular have determined that the economy will not last realistically, this is the war economy they are building , it will last for two or three years. in october , the specialists of the kyiv institute also conducted a survey of sociology, and there 80% of ukrainians are against that... real concessions to achieve peace, 80%, well, this is almost the majority, almost all, please tell me, and under what circumstances, no matter if there were more, in the 22nd year, in general , more than 90, yes, then it will decrease

, i’ll say it, and well, why, why does this opinion change and under what circumstances it can radically change, when on the contrary, the majority of ukrainians can put pressure on the government and demand some territorial concessions, is it even realistic, it's just in one case ukrainians, if we start to lose territory , territories exactly, yes, if we see that we are losing more and more, perhaps such attitudes will begin in society that we need to stop somewhere, because people will start from the idea of ​​common sense , well, if we are losing, we should at least stop, but i don’t think it’s about that, the question is not: to surrender or not to surrender, that is, we have a simple choice to capitulate, but you ask the ukrainians, are you ready

to capitulate for the sake of peace , ask, i 'll tell you, we won't even ask that question, it will be 99, 98, they will not be ready to capitulate, but to stop, yes... they will grow, because here a healthy fool will tell them that if we lose territory, then every day of the war is the loss of our loved ones and the loss of territory, yes let's stop somewhere, well, i'm afraid russia won't agree anyway, so we don't have anything else , we have two things to do, keep what we have, at least, and wait for something there... has changed in this russia, and it will change if we have enough patience. well, here we need not only patience, but also

the military and the armed forces of ukraine. and right now this is a very important issue that is being discussed in society, it is mobilization, you must have seen the statements of volodymyr zelensky at the press conference that the military leadership requires him to mobilize 400-500 thousand people. the president hesitates, he says that this is a question of justice, that he needs more arguments, and this is an objective point of view, there is a subjective one, some political scientists say political technologists, political scientists, what is there well, the political side of the coin, because such a decision is unpopular and... the president hesitates precisely because of this, do you understand the root of the president's hesitation and actually, you know, on the one hand, this is a possible second question, but it is tangential , on the one hand, 80% of ukrainians say that there is no need to surrender territories, and on the other hand, probably not everyone is very willing to go to the army, and probably this is also the root of the president's hesitation, there is a big problem here, you know , but in the summer we had such a question, and are you ready to...

hands right now to directly defend , that is, to fight realistically, and you know, for the population as a whole, how many thirds is 30%, a third, yes, more than 30, even this, see how abstractly this is a very large potential, but these are only verbal assessments, and in reality we do not know who of those , who said that he is ready and... this also applies to men of conscription age, there is no less, because how much will be mobilized, this, you know, is really, as the president said, a sensitive issue, and it is clear that he has to make such a decision very difficult, it means that mobilization measures must be strengthened, it must be a complex program, not mobilization, but

how it all... refers to the fact that some people fought there from the demobilization of part of the drafts of another part, on what grounds, in which order, how long they will fight, you understand, it should be complex program, that's why i just say that, well , you can say to the military that a million, a million is even better, and of course, then we can at all. no matter how much you want to go on the offensive, the main demand of the people is justice, everything must be fair, so in order for such people to still understand what this is, it must be clearly spelled out rules, because otherwise, a person should know on what grounds, why, how much he will receive, what compensation will be received, what the family will receive, when he will start, when he will finish, what will happen to those who have been fighting for many years, you understand, and this is correct, but if

there are such identical rules and... for everyone , there will be a greater percentage of people who will say that they are ready to go, of course, because they will understand, well, i can say, you fight for a year, then demobilization, and a person can know, you understand, for a person, you know what the worst thing, i'm just distracted, the unknown, not the certainty, the uncertainty, people get sick from the uncertainty, and these stresses and these diseases. both physical and psychological, most often arise from the fact that they simply live in uncertainty, they do not know how to live, what they will do and so on and so forth, if everything is determined in society, if how, which means and what is the definition, it's fair, if you don't agree with it, that's another matter, the majority agrees and that's it, there's no other way here, that is, you do the following system that will seem to the majority.

fair, that is, let me tell you abstractly, as a sociologist, we propose a certain program, we survey people, they say, yes, it is fair, and we start, if there, say, 60% think it is fair, and 10% think it is unfair, well, excuse me , these ten will have to suffer, well, make more decisions, but tell me, please, we talk so much about victory and make plans for after the victory, do ukrainians have any at all? one permanent opinion, that in their view is a victory, no, there is no, in to each his own, who, no, well, yes, everyone has different opinions, scattered, here public opinion is scattered, here scattered, what is the problem, why is it so, do you have an explanation, well , there are, there are rigorousists who believe, that it is a victory, that when we reach moscow and destroy putin's regime, well, there are such ideas, well , there are such, after all, these are exotic ideas.