can i make a small remark about the existence of enslaved peoples and their ethical choices, what you, antina touched on, certainly there is no black and white here, and these are quite complex mechanisms, and it is difficult to evaluate from the side, but i have, for example, a very intimate such a small example, which for me is decisive in my biography, my father in 1968, as a young soldier in military service, refused to go to czechoslovakia, and this had almost catastrophic consequences for the whole family, for many decades to come, and therefore not less, it's the ethical choice i grew up with and it shaped me to a large extent, uh, and now here's my father, having had two strokes, he doesn't speak very well, but he, when his speech started coming back to him, he came back and until this moment he said: "

that he always thought, why did he do that, and said that he did that because he thought it was right, and now he still thinks that it is for this, so that i don't have to was ashamed of his path, this is a very personal story, it is not really any universal recipe, but i really believe, maybe that's a rather idealistic vision, and yet i believe very much that the small ethical choices of people... in authoritarian regimes, within authoritarian regimes, even if it's a threat or some apparent harm to them, they still have consequences in the future, like a butterfly effect, those people can grow out of them, who will later break the backbone of this regime. mrs. yevgenia, we would like to ask... you

for a rhetorical question or for your reflection, i am the only one who, when i was listening to both vitaly and kateryna, and coming back, after all, since we don't have much time left, returning to our main, main topic about the maidan, i think about how interesting human nature is and how impressive the ability, in particular, of ukrainians, to ignore so many danger signals for so many years, i think about... that's what i'm thinking about , what i remember, i remembered just now, when we were talking, when we were talking about the annexation of crimea, and when we were talking about the fact that everything was about the war that started later, i remember when i first in my i heard the phrase our crimea in my life, it was in in 1998, and it was on the arabat arrow, where my parents and i went to the sea, and there i met a boy from peter, who was 10 years old, and he told me... to the child,

this is our crimea, we will take it from you , it was in 1998, that is, it was, this, i often, i often bring up this episode from my childhood, when they tell me that this is putin's war, that if it weren't for putin, nothing would ever have happened, that this is putin's russia and so on and so forth, it was the year 98, and it was before any putin, it was before... putin even appeared, that is, putin appeared on request. i apologize for the statement of the press secretary of the president of the russian federation that the russian federation does not make any territorial claims to the former soviet republics. until the moment when these republics will be in union with the russian federation, it was, and this was a statement on behalf of the president of russia, it was made public on august 24, 1991. you can, what else. you

need signals, you can ignore it, well, ukrainians taught shevchenko in soviet schools, fall in love with long-haired people and not with muscovites, because from muscovites, strangers do mischief to you, this was not a signal, i don’t understand how, and i can only imagine what percentage of violators of this commandment are in this hall right now, yes, well it is not for nothing that we talk about the fact that they tried to... cut this lawn, well, how many, for almost 400 years, that is, they tried to cut it, and we understand where they started, they started, strangely enough, from the church, the end of the 17th century, 1688, their task was to absorb the ukrainian orthodox church. the second moment their struggle is the destruction of the ukrainian greek catholic church, and this is the so-called church-religious issue, it was extremely important. and we understand what

a miracle it is now, how much time has been compressed, yes, that is, it is possible to reverse what they cut or. tried to form over the centuries what we are now reaping here or there is slowness or we see this or that, they led a large number of those people who simply cannot be called priests, but this lasted for centuries, and now we also see historical moments, yes, when the ukrainian church returns to ukraine, this is also an extremely important moment, it is possible for a separate discussion and... and the fact that the religious person, the religious factor will play a much bigger role than it seems to us now, well, it is true, thank you, in we have literally a couple of minutes left, yes , i remember in the early 2000s when putin

brought to moscow the new chief rabbi of russia, well, the person he declared chief rabbi in the presence of the actual chief rabbi, and i always thought, well why does he still have his own slave, well, in the end, well, that's what it is schizophrenia. well, now i see why, because now this bogus chief rabbi sits at all meetings, talks about the banderivites, answers putin's correct questions, yes, always and so with the church, why did the russian orthodox church need to incorporate the kyiv metropolitanate, that's it the fact that in fact they largely made the ukrainian national church a part of their civilized world, we still have to say that... luckily, in belarus they simply destroyed the greek-catholic church, to which 90% of the population went, planted a russian orthodox church there, actually destroyed the belarusian national identity, we see what is happening to the belarusians right now, thanks to civilizational experiments, why is it

so here, so here, and because there was actually a roof created by moscow over the ukrainian church, and there was simply an invasion of the russian church, roughly like in galicia in... the 40s and 50s of the 20th century, with the only difference that priests came here from the ukrainian ssr, and there simply from the russian empire, this is not one and the same the same to you result, so i also think that this is a very serious issue, and the blame on the maidan and the bells on the maidan, maidan k i apologize, i will also intervene, i once had the opportunity to attend a service of god in 2004, at which the priest directly told the parishioners that they must leave here and proclaim. what denomination was that priest, so i can roughly guess, something tells me something, everything became obvious to me when the new patriarch, kirill, the russian patriarch, placed the flags of all

the cis member states near his throne, that is, he was the first to do something that was not even putin dared then, and it was an absolutely clear demonstration of intentions, civilizational intentions, and when you think about it, it 's... only the church, no, first the church is erected, first the russian church marks the territory, and then the russian church comes to this territory a russian tank, everything is very simple, as the flag of the ussr has always had a globe, which reflects ambitions, and i can just illustrate very briefly, i have one about the globe, it was simply imprinted on my mind from childhood, i even remember i remember this passage, dear were from his cycle, the adventure of lisa selizneva , simple lord, her father, professor selizneva , who collected beasts for casmazo and they flew, so these exotic beasts were also collected in this galaxy, and here they come, by the way, this is what became the cartoon secret of the third planet, which some of you may have watched, and

in the book they fly in search of dr. verkhovtsev, one of the protagonists, to the planet pataliputra, which is the largest market for exotic animals, and there all... those cosmic races have their own hotels, according to the conditions of their life and their needs, and the human race also has its own hotel there, guess what it's called, if someone has read it, maybe you know, well, it's called volga-volga, and it's made in the form of a russian terem and a porter there in kosovorodka , and he says, when they come to look for dr. verkhovtsev in such a russian language, tell him the counterpart in the eighth term, there is... that is , the human race is represented by the russian language and russian civilization, no other, american, british, no other great civilizations, which could fly into

space, they don't have it in their minds, well , it's the 15th frame, that's how it was, i once saw the movie captain grant sovietsky's children, no one paid attention to it, because it was a children's movie about how they are looking for a captain. they say that crimea, why is crimea ours? jules verne would never write like ivan sergeovich already

committed suicide yesterday in a paris hotel after reading "mu-mu". so you and the whole civilian population, this is exactly the circle we need to get out of, because we are still hypertrophying it, you see, we are still living, and this is an important moment that is needed, maybe to put an end to our discussion on this, by and large we have to get out of russia from this world, i think we will end our discussion on this humorous note, maybe there is still time for questions, i don't know, unfortunately, there is no time for questions, the inexorable time has ended, i am sincerely grateful to you, dear participants of the discussion. i am grateful to you, good

evening, we are from ukraine, christ was born, dear ukrainians, i congratulate you on christmas and i wish that this year of the virgin, the virgin will become a reality, we will defeat the enemy, defend our state, may god protect you all, may god protect our indomitable, brave, heroic. and the sacrificial army, and in order for these virgins to become a reality, you and i will do everything necessary. this is the great ether, my name is vasyl zima, and we will start with those concrete things that we can do in order to bring our victory closer, namely, to attack the armed forces. so, i remind you that the espresso tv channel and the human and law charitable foundation have announced a new collection, together with you, our viewers, we are collecting funds for powerful portable velstrum battery stations with solar panels for 108 dnipropetrovsk. of a separate brigade of territorial defense forces of the armed forces of ukraine. in order to effectively destroy the enemy,

military equipment must be systematically charged. the stations can replace generators and provide soldiers with energy even in field conditions. our goal is uah 1,220,000. there are already almost 370,000 in the account. join, contribute to the victory of ukraine. you see the details on your screens. well, we are starting, and today we will talk with the regions. we will have zaporizhzhia will be kharkiv region, the enemy is constantly attacking there, there are other important topics and problems that we will definitely discuss. dmytro kyrylchuk, deputy of the zaporozhye city council. mr. dmytro, christ was born. let's praise him. good evening and i sincerely congratulate you and dear viewers of the channel on the bright holiday of christmas. thank you very much, i congratulate all zaporizhians in your person on this bright holiday, well, let's talk about the last day, the enemy shelling. where the zaporizhzhia region suffered the most, the enemy carried out 176 attacks on the region, even on

holy eve and christmas day, about consequences, please, yes , mr. vasyl, we know for a fact that there is nothing sacred among the rashists, there is only sick symbolism and bias in some things, which they constantly declare with their actions, and in particular , these holidays were not an exception , what what you already mentioned, yes, that in the previous... there were 176 robberies in populated areas of the zaporizhzhia region, and this is generally a general trend, when we know, for example, the day before that, yes 158, and in general, this trend continues to persist, that those are usually the days when it was the reduction of these and her nature and number of shellings, this is all thanks only to the coordinated actions of our glorious defenders, what is the reason for this... and in particular, well, here we will tell you more specifically, yes, for the previous day, in

18 populated areas, yes, they introduced there, that these are six mlrs attacks, and here it is suffering the most at the moment, it is gulyaipole and rabotine, yes, and this indicates that we will continue the trend again, that if a few days ago the rashists had an attempt to carry out counteroffensive actions there and return some their positions in the willow area. now their efforts are focused on a breakthrough, in particular, in the area of ​​robotynoy and gulyai field, they are trying to attack these two settlements with everything they can. point, but thanks to our glorious defenders , and for this past day, yes, that there is a field to the south, even though they were there with anti-aircraft guns, artillery training worked and drones, but our brave soldiers pushed back the yareshists, so in general we note that despite on this difficulty, yes the situation is under control, but our defenders need

it is impossible to help and, of course, to relax too early. tell me, please, here, well, let’s continue with the topic of the front itself, the rashists are calling residents of melitopol to the rosguard in order to work with, so to speak, unconscious citizens who are obviously either waiting for the armed forces of ukraine, or in one way or another they are helping the resistance movement, and besides , the russians are once again forcing and mobilizing the local residents in their clutches in order to strengthen their defense lines on the occupied territory of the zaporizhzhia region, they already have there is absolutely no one to do it, or is it so deliberate. deliberate coercion of local residents, ukrainians, both to the national guard and to forced labor in the construction of dugouts and trenches? yes, mr. vasili , indeed, well, i would like to believe it, yes, the rashistas really wouldn’t have anyone or anything to do it, yes, but

we know for a fact that these people are being picked up there all the time and they bring them, in particular from the same one there from the mariupol side and... when already there the information got into the mass media that these new units of these meat about this cannon what kind of manure, yes, new marks have even appeared, and this is in particular a systematic work, that this meat is brought up and brought up precisely to these meat assaults, where they are already there in several rows there , including processed ones, yes , but we note that it concerns our residents who are in the temporarily occupied territories of the zaporizhzhia region. in particular, in melitopol, berdyansk, and other settlements, where this is already progressively continuing, and this can, you know, sometimes be called a random process, and sometimes it really is well, as a systematic work, yes, when all residents are identified as soon as possible, this especially applies to men, when they are also at enterprises, and wherever possible and by all

methods, if before it was intimidation there, now there is also... .. in coercion , yes there is bullying, now there is also persuasion , when you go to a contract there, there will be similar things, this is in order to show exactly that, you know, such a tendency and there to be under the control of this particular territory, in order to get the upper hand for its curators there are kygyibists, facebook fans, it is difficult to read what they have there everything is under control, so really for the front , the difficulty of this situation lies in the fact that they are replenished with precisely these people who will carry out assaults and continue to develop this system of trenches, when they already have huge fortifications there, well that is, there are minus floors here, and the ground is already there, and at the same time, for these fortifications , everyone is involved, they attract people and manure , manure their meat, so the situation is not easy, and the people during the occupation

are constantly under threat of that they will be dragged down by these processes of rashi. i'm still here i would like to ask, the zaporizhia budget for the 24th year was approved in the amount of uah 8.5 billion, how realistic is this budget, again, what are the main items of expenditure, will it cover everything necessary, yes, mr. vasyl, here we note that yes indeed at the last session on friday it was. we have certain problems, namely the budget, which , in particular, was supported by the majority of the deputies present here, the key point is that the current part is planned to be 7.2 billion, that is , zaporizhzhia will have a deficit of uah 1.3 billion for next year, and all this will show only from process the receipt of funds to the city budget,

and it should be noted positively that the deputies of the european solidarity faction were presented with a program, yes, it was adopted specifically for the purchase of semi-drones, and here you know, zaporizhzhia, after public servants, after this program to the deputies of the faction, yes , now the defense capability program there is about 150 million, yes, and 50 million for the purchase of fpv drones, other parts, yes, in particular , we will indicate the directions of the budget, what will be directed to, yes, this is the same and... yes it is the money that takes the most money, but here we note that yes, well, unfortunately, if we wanted to cut these parts into... expenses, but this is where the protected items of expenses often appear, when it comes to salaries and those all the funds that

the city is obliged to pay, but at the same time the work has been done, there are still such questions that will arise one way or another, that the residents of the city, which has the deputy corps, about... yes, thank you very much, we, unfortunately, we have lost connection, but the most important thing we heard was that dmytro kyrylchuk, deputy of the zaporizhia city council, was in touch with us and now we will talk about kharkiv oblast, so galina kuts is in touch with us, she is a deputy of the kharkiv regional council, christ was born, mrs. galina , we praise him, i congratulate you, and let 's start again with how the day passed in the security plan of the enemy's attack on kharkiv-kharkiv region, please. thank you, well , in fact, our pain point and combat point is the kupyan region, it is the north, the northeast of the kharkiv region, there are continuous battles, there

shelling is continuous, there is such a big gray zone, and the fighting there is intensifying, not abating, part of kharkiv region, it has been occupied since the first days of the full-scale invasion, we were told the figure that 29 settlements are currently occupied. and from that territory , russian troops are moving there, and from that territory there is a very massive shelling from various types of weapons, our soldiers are holding on, our soldiers are simply showing incredible heroism, they are simply holding kharkiv oblast, uh, what do the russian troops want, well, it's not a secret, they want to take the so-called kupyansk knotty, kupyansk is as if the town was divided into two parts, because the two parts are on both sides of the oskil river, and... from the left bank of the oskil river, which is constantly stormed by the russians, kupyansk is knotty, why is it called that, because there is always such freight traffic there were

, there is a station called kupinsklovyi, and they really need this point to deliver resources, fuel, manpower, weapons, and now big, big battles are going on just behind the kupinsk nodular station, that's what i wanted to ask about... repair of kharkiv high-rise buildings 30 million hryvnias have been allocated, to what extent are these again adequate funds for solving many problems, what will they mainly be used for and how many local residents will wait for the damaged property to be repaired, well , look, these funds are so insufficient, and a lot of people suffer , many people have destroyed apartments, we have teachers, for example, at my university, who... their housing is destroyed, they rent an apartment somewhere in the same kharkiv and live there, this problem is so long and big for many, so that very often it happens that the windows

are changed, well, so that the birds do not blow and fly into the house, so do the pigeons, so that they do not nest there, everything else, when there is already some kind of fungus, damp walls, everything falls on the person himself, he must do it himself, of course people will arrange it. these vouchers , people submit documents for assistance, i asked my friend how it happens, she says, well, i applied six months ago, i’m still waiting, they won’t evaluate it in any way, she says, some wait, some longer, some faster, well, it’s slowly coming , of course the situation, but i i would say, this is not a mass phenomenon, unfortunately, and you know, and the enemy is not sleeping, the enemy is still periodically shelling kharkiv and it is not known where and when. flies and this is also such a risk zone, and about another important issue of the humanitarian sphere, they closed the kindergarten for the deaf and dumb in kharkiv,

what is this, why did this become possible at all, mr. vasyl, i thank you very much for this question, because i just came from the commission, which i myself convened today, is managed by the science commission. of education and spirituality, where we dealt with those kindergartens, it is not only for kindergartens children with hearing and speech impairments, this is also a daycare for children with visual impairments, these are kindergartens for children with such limited needs, moreover, i will tell you, in our deputies, there was no christmas for three days, it just wasn't, we were three days they did not understand how it happened that the kharkiv... regional military administration decided to bypass the deputies and not inform the specialized commission, in fact these institutions are under our control, not to notify

a single deputy. and the profile commission that they stop funding those kindergartens, we do not have documents about this you see, we heard about this from the parents of those children who were ordered to write their own applications and transfer to other kindergartens, and now look, the other kindergartens, first of all, are not profiled, these children cannot be adapted there, even if they are supposedly in their profile translated, then they do not... function, in kharkiv at the beginning of the martial law , the didsadkas do not function until now, but these didsadkas for children with disabilities, vision, disabilities, hearing, functioned, yes, in the online mode, but those children cannot be left without adaptation, moreover, i will say that kharkiv this school for the adaptation of children with visual impairments , with hearing impairments, it is one of the most powerful in ukraine, and these children

cannot be adapted without kindergarten, they then... when they enter adulthood, these children, they immediately become, they can find a profession, if not, then they remain permanently disabled, then the state will spend more on them. today was just some kind of marathon, when we met with those directors, individual deputies met with their parents, in the end i will say that all deputies from different factions of my commission are unanimous made a decision, about an hour ago it was about stopping... this arbitrariness, we turned to the regional military administration, to the department of science and education to renew the funding, so that, you understand, it is impossible to take and lock up children like that, and those children who are not in kharkiv, but from the communities, they take them to the community, but how does that child adapt there, and you know that the worst thing is that such decisions themselves, such supposedly simple decisions, because there is not enough money, but simple decisions are made , they turn kharkiv into a gray area faster than the russians.

are turning kharkiv into a gray area, because it is easier to close, easier to unite, easier to liquidate, this is now massively going in all directions in kharkiv, it is easier, but people, what to do with people, until the fate of each child is decided, this cannot be done you can, as long as the system somehow works, you can’t break it, and this technology is so cunning, let’s let the parents themselves write statements, leave, and then we’ll tell the commission, and it’s already... supposedly where will it go, the kindergarten is empty, liquidated, it won't work like that, this one, i thank you very much for this question, because the publicity in this situation needed, and we didn't have christmas for three days, the whole commission, i'm telling you right now because of this situation , and more importantly, today there was a statement from synigubov, well, i understand that today the plans of the enemy for the leadership of the region became known, that the russians are preparing a new offensive on kharkiv, at least they have such plans

to attack kharkiv again, well, i... how is this perceived and, again, how serious is this threat, if we can talk about it, i understand that you are not a military man now and you do not head east, again operational strategic management of the east, well, but still, well, but in any case, you are a deputy of the regional council, which obviously, if more funds are allocated for fortifications, for some other measures, then one way or another you will also approve it decision, and what they say about it in the regional council, well, first of all, they are communicating with the military, since i... was in the hospital this morning, too, that is, regardless of christmas , everything is working here, that is, i am communicating, so the gods have strengthened there, but our soldiers are well done. further, regarding the regional council, we had a session on saturday , december 23, and we have created a new communal institution at the regional council, the center of national resistance, and many such aspects of such security will be focused there already, about which, well, there are open things that can be .

to speak, things are more closed to me, because i personally spoke at the session with a request to create such a service military hub for the military at this center, because there are a lot of military personnel from all over ukraine here, and it is necessary to wash somewhere, and spend the night, and quickly things should be left, and the mobile phone should be charged, and shower cabins should also be available for people with limited needs, that is, er, and this should be created in fact, it is not just that the military man himself is looking for an apartment and... does not know where to hide in a strange city, that is all the safety things are being created in kharkiv , the mood among the people, well, i will say this, there are people left here who already know what to do in such a situation, in principle, everyone's alarming suitcases are packed, everyone knows what to do when there is no energy resources and everyone knows where to go if suddenly what, at the same time, the russians will advance, they will not advance,