next year, how difficult is the year going to be and what do we need to do first of all, because , well, i'll just remind you that most of the equipment is saved, because it was not used much in the offensive, a lot of equipment has not been provided to us yet, will be provided next year, next year we hope that europe will fulfill its obligations, because it is increasing its capacity for the production of projectiles, well , i am talking about the fact that i, for example, i understand why... now such pessimism has appeared in many, then such a pendulum, probably simply swayed into another side, because people had too rosy expectations, but i don't understand if there are rational grounds for this pessimism, why should the next year be worse than the previous ones? well , i think that now it is very important, first of all to make a very serious analysis of what has arisen and, well, to do... years from this and take

measures, maybe not necessarily publicly and to do this, but it is necessary to do it, really technology there is, there is technology, i think that the issue of our assistance will also be resolved both by europe and by the united states of america, and as experience shows, this non-standard application is the most effective. weapons, new tactics, i think it will bring success. well, thank you very much for this conversation, andriy rydzhenko, the captain of the first rank of the reserve of the armed forces of the armed forces of ukraine was with us, and now we will tell you another story about how a military psychologist from lviv to the border sumy oblast and a retired major, volodymyr belyy, devoted his life to military affairs, that is more than 25 years of service, and when a full-scale war came to ukraine, he could not stay. service for volodymyr bily

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22 at espresso. dear friends, we return to the ether and continue our marathon. now we will talk about what is happening in serbia, and something is happening there, if you look at it this way, something very similar to our maidan. and by the way, serbian politicians, in particular about... days and starting from the president teaching and ending with the mayor of belgrade, i don't remember what his name is, here is the prime minister , and everyone compares these events with the ukrainian maidan and says that we will not allow the maidan and maidanization, nothing like that will happen, but less, but we see

this video, when the protesters stormed the belgrade city hall, the mayor says by the way that irreparable damage was literally done. premises and, of course, that he exaggerates, but i may not need to disperse them somehow, but by the way, here is also this interesting moment, because the ukrainian the maidan or the revolution of dignity are exactly those events that most european countries admire, i believe that this is a very important event of the manifestation of democracy, the protection of democracy, then, as we can see, the serbian government, the current government officials, they are absolutely somehow different negatively , here are such notes , you know, if not the press secretary of yanukovych wrote to them, then at least the press secretary of putin, but looking at this video, well, i remember the revolution of dignity, i remember... the revolution, i don't remember that there our protesters somehow the authorities ransacked the premises

, well, that didn’t happen, it was just the authorities that were taking out the eavesdroppers, we could have brought in the berkuts, it behaved completely differently, i can show you how it looked the day before, actually this square is the square in front of the serbian parliament, it was empty literally filled with people. who are not satisfied with the results of the parliamentary elections, believe that vučić and his party actually stole the victory from the pro-european and democratic forces, they believe that the elections were unfair and falsified, look, well it really looks like such a square, a crowded square, a crowded square, and what is interesting is that russia, the russian special services warned the serbian authorities that this is what awaits them, so the hand of moscow can still be heard there, and they intervene they are all in it,

and also, again, ah, the russian ambassador, that is , president vučić, decided to meet with the russian ambassador, so that russia has a firm hand on the pulse of serbia, so to speak, let's talk about it now with maria geleti, balkanist expert and candidate of political sciences, who is joining our studio, mrs. maria, we welcome you. greetings, we are actually now comparing everything that is happening in belgrade with what was happening here in kyiv in 2014, in 2004, it is quite reminiscent of the maidan, by the way, it is the maidan, if we are talking about the maidans, then the serbs it seems to me that the first ones were here, not even the ukrainians, because sobodan milosevych was overthrown from power with the help of such a maidan of his time, but he was not overthrown by the americans. of course, this is true, precisely because of the protests, it was possible to overthrow milosevic and start to move serbia in general towards

of some civilized world, because during the time of milošović and all the wars that slobodan milošović waged in the balkans, serbia actually found itself under such tight sanctions from the west, and this prevented the country from developing in the first place, and on the other hand, the citizens, that is, became hostages of this flight . and it affected their relations with the countries of europe, it affected their travel to the countries of europe , etc., that is, in fact, milosevic became the one who pushed serbia away from the west for many years, and now serbia is still 30 years later, it is not can return to these friendly relations, but if we start, for example, to compare the serbian protests with the ukrainian maidan, then they are a little different, because, for example, first of all, these protests, although... there are thousands of them, they are not as big as, for example, the last, last maidan , the revolution of dignity was because

, firstly, there were protests all over the country, secondly, the protests were very crowded even in kyiv, and also, of course, that our protests are much more peaceful, especially in the beginning, we, we weren't aggressive, we weren't tried to destroy buildings, we didn't try to destroy any structures, etc., it was important for us to show that we peacefully defend our... right to our right to fair elections, to have courses in the country, as when we we are talking about the revolution of dignity, or the orange revolution, when we defended our fair elections and we wanted to have fair election results, that is, this is what distinguishes us a little, on the other hand, serbs are very emotional, that is, i think that their emotionality is present here when they go to the square, they protest more aggressively, actually. this is still a very , i would say, silent protest, because at protests they can use weapons, and if

, for example, we know that serbs during weddings and funerals, they shoot weapons, that is, it is a normal thing for them. therefore, in principle, we can say that this process is still calm, if we look at the fiery balkan soul, we know about the serbs, about serbia, that it has such rather pro-russian views and... even during a full-scale the invasion was somehow demonstrated by the serbs more than once, and not only their government, even i remembered, there were morals, some dedicated to lesya ukrainka, lesya ukrainian and they were taken in belgrade, in my opinion. or in some serbian city , someone painted from above, we saw the letters z, where people drew, admiring or admiring the russian, so-called svo, and here we see these protests, these young people protesting against the falsehood of possible falsification in the elections, what are her views? when we

look at these young people, they are actually the ones who supports the opposition, the opposition... this, this is serbia against violence, they have a very similar program to the program of the party, uh, it is also for european integration, like the government, it does not have a clear position, on sanctions, on russia, and it does not has a clear position regarding kosovo, uh , regarding the independence of kosovo, or in general whether independence or not independence of kosovo, on the other hand, what else, they criticize vučić for the fact that vučić does not fight with corruption, with organized crime and others.. things, that is, that he does not carry out reforms, it is difficult for me to say whether they are very different from the party in power, it is simply an opposition that wants to somehow change the country, or if this opposition comes to power and it will definitely, for example, start a very pro-european course and renounce ties with russia, and deny and admit, for example, independence of kosovo, i have some

doubts, because as you rightly say, in general, in serbia, there is a lot of support for russia among the population. they have a very positive opinion of russia, they believe that russia came to their aid in 1999 when the west bombed serbia through the situation in kosovo, because of the genocide in kosovo, and so the serbs, historically they have always had good relations, plus this is all support, and even today, when russia shows its support of the type, that it is trying to support the serbian authorities in such a difficult moment for them, also shows that this... this connection, it has always existed and russia has never let serbia out of its arms, let's call it that. on the other hand, the opposition, i assume that it can also have relations with russia, because in principle these relations exist at all levels, that is, if start looking at who is connected with whom, then you can find at least one representative who

has a connection with russia. i recently looked, actually, who is in the coalition and tried to see. what contacts do they have, and one member from this coalition serbia against violence, he is also the party of serbia and kosovo, that is, it is the party that also participates in the kosovo elections and it has its representatives in the parliament of kosovo, and accordingly these parties can definitely be connected with russia, because russia has a very large influence on kosovo itself, on that the part where serbs live, actually in serbia they even use such an expression: that is, for many serbs, this is what we call the russian world, it is something that, as it were, is well, well, well compiled with what is, what is serbian, is this not an exaggeration, i just , well, i don't know, i was lucky in quotes

to be born in russia, where i lived the first 10 years of my life, and also a little lucky. to live with serbia in belgrade, and i can compare these two countries, they are completely different in fact, and the serbs, if they didn't imagined that they were like, i don’t know, i’m sorry, balkan muscovites, but they are not like that, anyway, they are a completely different people, much more cultured in the end, and what’s more, they are a nation, which cannot be said about russians, because this is a certain imperial community, is it possible to work with the serbs in principle to turn them, if not into allies of ukraine. at least not on russia's allies? i am sure that it is possible, i will agree with you that serbs are not russians, they are many things, they are a little similar to how things happen in russia, but eh, it is because russia is constantly influencing there, it has a very strong influence, and it also has an influence on the media, it throws a lot of disinformation there, plus

the church, etc., but in serbia there is somehow a myth that... russian culture is very, i really like that it is very close , that is, they love this russian culture, but, as we say correctly, in general, serbia, it, it, it is a nation, it has its own unique culture, which for some reason it, by the way, does not appreciate, and yes, if you look sometimes, when what they listen to, during some events, often this there can be russian songs, and this is very strange, because, for example, katyusha is russian, which, well, in our understanding, we would definitely not listen to it now during a full-scale invasion. on the other hand, serbs, of course, they have very little information about ukraine, and here, if you start working for the first time, spread information about ukraine, change. the image of ukraine, because now many things are being formed also under the influence of russian propaganda, of course, they use the ukrainian maidan as in a negative context, that it is not a maidan for freedom, but that

this is the maidan, which led the country to destabilization, even when vucic says that we do not change, we do not change the government through maidans, but through elections, and actually this problem is that they have a very negative image of ukraine, they know very little about ukraine, and in order to change this, it is necessary to strengthen the work of our embassy, ​​which should conduct more, more activities that would improve the image of ukraine there. on the other hand, we need to strengthen cooperation, of course, at the state level, at the level of non-governmental organizations of various think tanks, so that we could actually cooperate and develop some common things. we should also help serbia move towards the european union, it will be something that can help us build better relations, because serbia wants it and we can too. to ask our european partners not to leave serbia aside, to actually try to move it towards the eu. we can also help with reforms. ukraine has quite successfully

carried out many reforms, we can try to help reform serbia in those directions. well, returning to the very end, to these shares protest, in your opinion, and whether or not they will have an end, or maybe, well, what will be the impact of all this? i assume that the end will most likely be a recount of the votes at individual polling stations, because that is the easiest thing to do, if, for example, they have there recognized that in certain polling stations the results of the elections cannot be established, then the easiest thing is to just conduct them again these elections, if you follow the path, for example, if the cancellation of all elections is completely canceled and elections are held again, then it is difficult, it should be done by the court and even, as the serbians say experts that this is impossible, because... it is still impossible in the legal field today to completely cancel the elections and start a new one, that is, they do not have a tool, they only need to introduce some additional

regulation with the help of the parliament, and it is difficult , that is, the easiest way is to simply do a recount at those polling stations where there were some serious violations and the results cannot be determined, or for example, there will be a decision that a recount should be carried out at these polling stations, madam... tell me more, please this year we celebrated christmas for the first time in a long time on december 25, serbs, what days do they celebrate christmas, you say that we should somehow help them so that they move to europe, can we, is only our desire enough, or are there any movements about moving away from the russian world, well, the serbs celebrate like russians in january, is this normal, which is probably as difficult a question for them as it was for ukraine, i think it does not appear to

them at all yet that, because we haven't had a full-scale invasion yet, there are a lot of us too someone talks about it, but it's always been said that there's no popular support, and only a full-scale invasion made us make such a difficult decision, do the serbs want to move away from russia, i... i don't think they really want to move away from russia, but of course, we have to help them move away, because their security depends on whether they will be under the influence of russia or not, russia really wants to destabilize the balkans, because it is important for it to have constant presence or protests there, to keep another country in its orbiti, mrs. maria, thank you to you, we are running out of time, thank you for explaining serbia to ukrainians, a balkan expert and candidate of political sciences was in touch with us, we are going for a break, then we will come back, we still have one hour of the marathon ahead of us, at least ours in it part,

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