therefore, i will repeat, it requires very significant revision, it is unacceptable in this form, but in a whole range of directions, there finally, well , you know, as they say, the flight has touched. how would you comment on today's appearance on the air of a single marathon, in general, in the information space, and the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine, general valery zaluzhny, who said for the first time that this is not their request for 450-500 people for the army. because in principle the numbers of mobilization should not be announced at all, it is a military secret, he said, and that they need people to in order to replenish the sanitary losses, and taking into account that the situation at the front may develop in different ways, people are needed, but when it will happen, how many there will be, in what period they will be recruited, this is all an open question, so he slightly denied that , what bezugla, arahamia, and certain people said before that, it was more of a political decision by mr. general, or did he fulfill his duty and explained how it should be, and besides, he said that i did not submit anything. verkhovna

rada, because it is not my competence, i am not the subject of the legislative initiative. the draft law that we are discussing was signed by prime minister shmyhal, the minister of defense umerov will report on it, it is directly stated in the submitted documents. as for zaluzhny? well, first of all, this was zaluzhnyi's first press conference, and i believe that, in principle, there should have been more of them. and it's good that he went to the press conference, answered the questions, and now i already ... quoted something from him, well, i listened to these 36 minutes of the briefing, it seems to me that they can and should be done regularly, why he came out just today, well, i have such and such an opinion that it was not his initiative, but it was rather an initiative of the political leadership in order to, well, go to the military to explain, the draft law that we are discussing with you caused a violent reaction in society different reactions in society

, many people, well, there are outraged by various things, and i understand from what is going on there this morning that the servants of the people refuse to comment, for example, various media call me and say, oh, you know, you are ready to comment, i say, well, i'm ready to comment, this is an important topic, they say, oh , and you know, almost none of your colleagues want to comment, that is, it looks like it's like, you know, such a hot potato, this topic, which instead , in order to approach it honestly, responsibly, i think there should be a briefing by zaluzhnyi 100%, but there should also be a briefing by khmerov, but there should also be a briefing by shmygal, who is the author of this bill, and zelenskyi just attended a press conference, but i didn't talk about it there, and this topic is super important, so i think it should be here honest, some kind of frank communication, and so far it looks like

this hot potato was being passed from hand to... hand, and eventually it got to the sleuth, who actually, well, i understand, was accordingly ordered to go and explain, well, what if he did, well , it looks like this, and it worries me, because , well, these are already some political games around, and this is a bill about the fate of people, well, you know, i probably won’t name another bill in which each norm. it touches the destinies, sometimes hundreds, sometimes thousands, and sometimes hundreds of thousands of people, it's just necessary understand, there is every tape, well, i'm sorry, but it's actually written in blood, that's why it 's such a painful, difficult topic, but avoiding it, just being silent and not communicating, that's the worst thing you can do, you have to go out, talk, answer questions society , and it is very important, i hope that the government will be open to its... refinement and changes,

because it, this draft law is in great need of such changes, i understand that information about what actually exists will not be announced at all what do we expect, why do we need so many people, the situation is not defined, the enemy also has his own plans, accumulates resources, so we must be ready, but what can be understood, in any case, i understand, this draft law must pass and must receive e- verification, so from well or consent or approval from the ministry. the draft law was submitted by the government , which means that the minister of finance also voted for its introduction, so there is nothing to wait for, then the fate of this draft law is as follows, it is in the verkhovna rada, i think it is assigned to the committee on national security and defense, well, it is a profile one. the committee, of course, others

committees, including the budget committee, can give their conclusions, but the profile committee will be the committee on national security and defense, then it is determined in relation to the draft law, then it... is taken to the session hall, then the first reading, then, in my opinion, the most responsible part - this is the introduction of amendments, the discussion of amendments, and here it needs to be very seriously refined, in general i want to tell you that i consider it a mistake to have followed this path, to make one bill of 72 pages, which is about everything, it is about demobilization and terms of service, it about conscript service, its liquidation and the release of conscripts, he is about a new, completely new... in ukraine, basic military training, which has never existed, which is being introduced, he is about the release of some servicemen , about deferment for others, he is about ranks, he is about vacations , it’s about everything, well, it’s a colossal draft law, i don’t understand what it was all about in one bucket, it would have been better to submit

a package of 10-12 draft laws, clear, small, and about them normally, i have to put a full stop, thank you thank you very much for participating for professional comments. goncharenko, the people's deputy of ukraine, the person who read this draft law, my colleague wrote incorrectly that the scumbag absolved himself of political responsibility for this draft law with such a statement, and in principle, he is indeed politically irresponsible, he is not, he is responsible for the situation in armed forces, and those people who have taken full political responsibility in the country have to provide people and ammunition, and serhiy sgurets , director of the defexpress agency, host of the war summaries column, joins the conversation day sergey, i congratulate, i congratulate you, vasyl, i congratulate our viewers, i am... even here, well, i will briefly voice what general valery zaluzhnyi said, and it was published that now the city of maryanka no longer exists, - says valery zaluzhny, how to understand it, how it is built, er, it is true that maryanka has been almost completely destroyed, now

our troops have left and are entrenched on other lines, and we will expect, well, new stages of combat. actions related to destroying the enemy and preventing him from advancing on our territory. and then we let's talk about other important things today, this is precisely about the destruction of the enemy ship feodosia, about new technologies in response to the enemy's numerical superiority against the background of valery zaluzhny's first conference, where he spoke about it, and about strengthening our air forces with f-16 aircraft, aren't we having excessive expectations for these fighters, what details are needed... hiding, more on that in a moment. i will start, of course, with good and epic news, which concerns the destruction of a russian ship and a video that can be viewed repeatedly. that is,

today at 3:00 a.m. in the area of ​​feodosia , the large amphibious ship novocherkas from the chornomorsky fleet was hit by cruise missiles from aircraft of the ukrainian air force. fleet, the ship was destroyed at the pier, further in this zone there is such a chaud military training ground, which the enemy uses to launch these shahed attack drones over ukraine, so one of the versions is that it was novocherkassk that brought a new batch of shaheds to be unloaded, and precisely the warheads of the drones detonated so nicely after being hit by those...missiles, albeit on board could have been in another cargo, given the one-time and extremely powerful explosion that turned the ship into pieces, some of these pieces flew all the way to the center of feodosia. the air force of ukraine confirmed that cruise missiles were used against the enemy without

detailing these samples, but it is known that the storm shadow and scalp missiles that we received are currently in the arsenal of our air force. from our british and french partners, and they are used from su-24m aircraft. let me remind you that these are the first months of a large-scale invasion the enemy concentrated 11 large amphibious ships of this type in the black sea, such ships were transferred from the northern and baltic fleets of the russian federation, and to date four large amphibious ships have already been destroyed, and their loss for russia is actually... very tangible, because such ships, among other things, the enemy uses to establish ferry crossings across the kerch strait, especially when the crimean bridge does not work, he thinks that it will not work soon either, and therefore this is extremely important, relevant

significance for the destruction of russian military power, the reaction of our foreign partners is no less indicative here, where... the british defense minister said that the strike by ukrainian forces on a russian warship in the occupied crimea shows that those who believe are wrong , that the war in ukraine with... reached a dead end, they did not notice that 20% of the russian black sea fleet was destroyed in the last four months, british defense minister grand shabs just wrote about this, and this is actually, well, the absolute truth, and and further to on another topic, today was valery zaluzhny's first conference, where he spoke about, first of all, mobilization, about the new law and nuances related to mobilization, but he also spoke about technology. he spoke about the fact that the 24th year should be different from what happened this year in order to avoid

the impasses that valery zaluzhnyk wrote about in his famous article in the economist, and now we will talk about what are the ways out of these impasses already exist, because valery zluzhnyk says that we already see problems, and we are 90% found ways to solve these problems, and now anton mich is joining us. is a military expert who works closely with defense express, as well as with our defense-industrial companies engaged in military high-tech, mr. anton, i congratulate you, i am glad to see and hear, i congratulate you, mr. sergey, we dare, well, the question arises how it is possible to overcome this advantage of the russian federation in the size of the army, the number of weapons, of course we are talking about the fact that there are technological answers, which valery zalozhny also says. which directions and which ones projects can be singled out now, relying on the potential and capabilities

of ukrainian defense and industrial companies? well, actually, this is quite a difficult question , and it will definitely not be easy to find an answer here, because we know that the enemy is powerful enough, he has a good arsenal and there is enough modern armament of military equipment, we know that they have made a certain contribution to development of complex electronic warfare, there are many of them and enterprises. there are also many who deal with that issue, but we simply also have to understand that ours the defense industry does not stand still, our partners, including them, are closely watching the course of hostilities, they see how our enemy acts and see how we try to counter it, and also offer a number of different solutions, if we simply summarize the view, to summarize and say about the emphasis that was made by mr. zaluzhnym in the article for the iconography and in general now emphasized during the press conference. then he emphasizes special attention on modern technologies, the question is what can it be? usually now

recently, the issue of increasing the possibility of radio electronic warfare has been actively discussed, it is undoubtedly the acquisition from us, from our manufacturers, from our partners, of various types of complexes that will ensure the effective suppression of enemy signals, which are used both for the organization of communication and for the organization . navigation, as well as for controlling drones, this will be the toolkit that can provide us with a certain advantage. the enemy has an arsenal of frep complexes. we we have to build up our own arsenal. we know a number of manufacturers in ukraine that produce electronic warfare complexes that are already used on the battlefield to counter unmanned aerial vehicles, including p.drones. this direction is actively developing, and i think that it is one of the factors that will influence. in the course of hostilities - this is the build-up of radio electronic warfare complexes and various types, again i emphasize, the second direction is

the use of robotic platforms, ground-based, we know that the most valuable thing that we have is people, and we have to protect these people, protect as much as possible and use various robotic ground platforms in order to be able to use them to perform certain tasks, such as creating a fire impression, such as evacuating the wounded, such as for the delivery of ammunition, weapons and so on, this is a very important point, and the development of this direction so that the robotized platform can be used, including in a complex radio-electronic environment, is also important such a challenge, but nevertheless, this is the direction that needs to be developed and the future behind it. the third direction, it is indisputable , everyone already knows very well, it is unmanned aerial vehicles, including drones, unmanned aerial vehicles of various types, again the purpose of both reconnaissance and strike drones, and various different configurations. this is also the factor that will contribute to techno's further obtaining of technological advantages. we know that

the enemy, again, i emphasize, is building up production, one of our sides in ukraine has also been announced by the authorities that the production of drones will be increased, and already a million drones have been announced as such a figure. of course, this is the kind of stuff that needs to be had, and the more of these drones there are for both tactical and strategic levels that could be used to strike enemy territory. this is exactly the direction that is very, very important, and it can be developed, and again, this is the technology that will give us an advantage over the enemy. the next point is again the building up of the anti-aircraft system defense in my opinion. the more means of air defense there will be on the territory of ukraine, the more it will be echeloned, echeloned, i.e. cover at different distances, the more it will be saturated, this will provide cover for our facilities, this will ensure the functioning of our economy, and this will allow in the principle of functioning of our state in general, that is, air defense systems that would ensure the destruction of various

air targets of different, let's say, size, roughly speaking, this is also... important a factor that will contribute to the strengthening of our capabilities and technological advantages. well, the next point, again , is a political advantage. i completely agree with mr. zaluzhny, in his article economy, he also emphasized that obtaining an aviation component that would use a wide arsenal of weapons that could strike deep into enemy territory and repel russian aviation, obtaining air superiority in general on russian aviation, this is such an important piece of equipment and also quite powerful. can contribute to our technological advantage during hostilities. mr. anton, i would like to ask such a thing , we are talking about new things, about new models, about new directions of use of certain types of weapons, does this require changes in the basic structures of units, so that these units are most effective with new

tactics, we used these advantages new models and new systems, well, you know, you have raised enough questions and a topical issue. we know that previously there was no such unit that would deal with inter-pilot devices, it was only gradually introduced with hostilities with the war of the russian federation. if we talk about units that use radio -electronic warfare complexes, then of course we have a certain staff structure, it needs to be increased, but i would say that the staff structure should be improved, it should be improved, because well... technological solutions in any case, they will come, if we are talking about rap complexes, we already know which ones exist, that they exist like that, if before we did not even know about the existence of such rap complexes, like guns used against drones, now they exist again and a clear answer is needed, how many such handguns are needed for this or that unit, 10, 20,

or two or four, you know, depending on , how we fight, and depending on that we must also form our... the nature of the use of this or that weapon, in addition, we must also understand that we have defense forces, they include the armed forces of ukraine, territorial defense forces, some subdivisions they have in their usual structure certain means of radio-electronic intelligence , radio-electronic warfare, others are not provided for by legislation, but they are needed because they perform tasks as linear units, that is, there is a certain layer of work here, and i know that in in principle, the military knows this layer of work, it is being solved gradually. and tries to create such a system that would make it possible to use the existing arsenal of modern technological solutions as effectively as possible and to predict the possible arrival of new technological solutions, where they could get in, this is a very important direction and a very relevant issue. mr. anatony, thank you very much for the time you took for our viewers, for your professional comments, and let me remind you that anton

mikhnenko, a military expert on security and technology, was on the klanspress air. and then we will continue. here is a topic related to modern weapons, their use, tactics, today's possibilities and promising solutions, and now we are joined by valery romanenko, professional expert, leading scientific employee of the nau. mr. valery, congratulations glad to see and hear you. to each other, to each other, good evening, good evening. we started today's program with such an epic destruction of a russian enemy ship in feodosia, and i would like to ... hear your general assessments, why the russian air defense did not work again, or maybe it worked, but was ineffective, what were the tactics of our air forces when using long-range missiles , that is, what are your general assessments related to this successful strike on a russian ship? well

, you know, my first thought was, what did they hit, yes, because i immediately ran to the deepstate and... started to measure the distance, the distance there is 250 km, that is, it is the maximum for shtor shadow, so the first impression is that we still received longer-range versions of these missiles. so, as for tactics, well, here our pilots took a risk and somewhere got very close to the front line, because i say once again, even if it's 300 km, then get closer. than 40-50 km to the front line are dangerous, but even here we found somewhere, after all, somewhere we suppressed enemy anti-aircraft fire, either by means of anti-aircraft fire, or by... steeling harms, but we found a niche and fired these rockets, that is my first thoughts were, how did they get it, and the explosion there is really cool, such a new year

's firework, well, it warms the soul even at such a distance, well, that is, it was actually a unique situation, and it cannot be compared with previous options for using tactical aviation with stormshadow missiles, well, why can't you compare all these operations. are preparing diligently, you yourself understand that in order to program the political storm shadow there, you need to work well with, so to speak, digital maps of the area, yes, it is not controlled, after being dropped from the plane, it is not controlled, whatever program is laid down, that is how it flies, and i think that such operations will be repeated, the only thing is, of course, they should prepare as thoroughly as possible and... use as much intelligence information as possible regarding the placement of enemy anti-aircraft missile systems, because there have already been cases of these missiles being shot down, and since we

have few of them, such cases should be excluded. well , i would also like to ask about the f-16 fighters, because i would not like to fall into the trap of excessive expectations again, everyone is already discussing it there infographics, which you already knew without tom cooper, where he showed. the detection range of the radars that are on the f-16s, the potential range of the m-120 missiles that the f-16 will potentially be equipped with, and there was a table, now our directors will show where, relatively speaking, the russian 35 with the use of missiles of the r-37 type there still have a greater range, but in particular we can see the eyes... the orange cones are the range of the russian missiles, and the blue cones are precisely the operation of the radar on the f16 and

the missiles on the f16. what do you say to this table, how will it affect the tactics and approaches of the f-16 to combat russian aviation? well, let 's go first, well, they won't tell us, we won't find out, but then, from that... we will figure out based on the results of air battles, which means what equipment will be installed on ours, on the f-16s that we we have a chance to get , yes, because mr. tom cooper, he is a really cool expert, but he was counting on the standard configuration of, ah, these fighters, as it was in the air forces of nato, well , nato countries, individual, yes, at the moment disarmament, but... now the process is already underway modernization of these planes, there is hope that they will still receive more modern missiles, more modern radars and the latest models

of electronic warfare stations, but mr. tom cooper does not take into account this point of diverting missiles from the plane by using radio electronic interference, and this is a very important point , but in addition... it is necessary to take into account , so it is one thing to see, launch a missile, but you also have to dodge an enemy missile, i am talking about russian planes, well, the same about ours, yes, but long-range , if we get, for example, the latest models of amram missiles, they have a range of 150 km, and the russian r-77 is the standard armament of su-35 and su-30 aircraft. this is standard, because the long-range missiles of the r-33 r-37 are an option, when they are suspended, when they are not, when they just accompany the attack aircraft there, they, well, in

most missions, these fighters are russian, they have missiles with a range of 110 km, r- 77, that is, we have a reserve of 40 km. if it is possible to increase the detection range of the radar installed... on these f-16s, or install new modern radar stations with phased antenna arrays , which have the same range as in the summer on russian planes, well, then we are not the same as in chocolate, but these chances of destroying russian planes increase if we get with old weapons, well, we will use them as air defense fighters, as means of destroying russian attack helicopters and attack aircraft without flying close to the front line, even the old missiles in this case have enough range, well, that is, to develop special skills.

in general, they will always be useful, but here the extent of their usefulness will depend on what equipment and weapons they receive. and paleri, i would like you to explain to our viewers how the potential of the f-16 can be enhanced by interaction with the avax aircraft, whether we can count on such interaction that we can receive intelligence. information from these aircraft, which actually belong to the competence of the alliance, are there no political restrictions here, and what technical advantages will this tandem of avacs and f-16 provide? well, i hope that the allies will not remove link-16 - this means a tactical exchange system information, they will not remove the link-16 from the f-16s handed over to us, if this line is there, we only need

permission to receive t... information from the awaks, which are now, the nato awaks, which are now based in romania, and over the southern regions above the black by sea, we can easily receive this information directly on board the fighters, not through command posts , through headquarters, through guidance systems, in real time we can know where the russian planes are, where the russian ships are, and where the russian anti-aircraft missile systems are and everything.. . is a pilot receive into the mode, will receive the tactical situation on the tablet in real time, that is, in some areas we will be able to close this issue with situational, situational awareness of the pilot, yes, but, for example, in the eastern areas, it will be difficult, because there are avaks are not taken from the territory of neighboring

countries. that is, it will partially help us, but in some areas, in those areas, by the way, where it will help us, we will be able to more effectively shoot down russian calibers and russian shaheds flying there from crimea, flying from the south, i.e. through the black sea. mr. valery, and one last question, just for one minute, what do you think about the reb systems on the russian su-35 type aircraft, because what is the ... the impression that they do not work, or is it that i have such an overly hopeful impression after the strikes a patriot, a conditional patriot on russian bombers, oh, a minute here, you know, it won’t be enough, yes, this is money for the wind of the russians, this is the famous khibine system, these are two huge containers of such things at the ends of the wings, yes, so in them, this is the khibine system , which worth by itself as a dumb plane, there

is more... and the result of shooting down three su34s and shooting them down with three missiles, although you know that in order to shoot down a plane, you need to launch two missiles to definitely shoot down there with a probability of 09 , that is, these systems were found, so the russians advertised them a lot, and they put them on all planes, but they cannot avoid being hit by missiles... i would like to prevent this effect on the received f-16s, so that there were effective onboard defense systems. mr. valery, thank you very much for yours extremely interesting explanations, for your time, and i will remind our viewers that it was valery romanenko, aviation expert, leading researcher of the state aviation museum. these were the main results of this day, and more international and economic news later on vasyl zima's big broadcast, so

stay tuned. on the espresso channel. good evening, we are from ukraine. i thank serhii zgorets, and i thank his guests. these were the military results of the day, and the great tech continues, the second hour is ahead. world about ukraine with yuriy fizar. money for the time of the war with oleksandr orchivka weather by natalka didenko and sport news by yevhen postakhova. now about the most important news as of this hour, i'll tell you. i will tell you in detail. i need men and weapons to continue fighting. such a statement was made by the commander-in-chief of the armed forces of ukraine , general valery zaluzhnyi. there is a need for mobilization, but it is divided into periods - the general noted. radio svoboda broadcasts. yes, zaluzhnyi commented on the figures of 400-500 thousand people who should be drafted into the army. in no way did not say the number 500 or 400.