so we have to be mobile all the time, right? when we are now fulfilling last year's order, this year it will not work as effectively. therefore, of course, there is a problem in this, in this in this, but that's all, you know, i will tell you as a person who is constantly at the front. on the 23rd, by the way, not far from here in solomyansk , the military signed a contract, just a block away from you, yes, she left, she left, and i basically. no, well, he will not actually leave the front, but now, in principle, we do not even have a problem with weapons, we have a problem with the fact that we are not valued, the personnel are not valued, this is now the biggest problem of the ukrainian army, in one of your interviews you said how important it is to specialize, you said it in the context of women in the war, but i think it is appropriate for anyone , who mobilizes, it is very important to have, to own some kind of weapon, yes, the more weapons, the more... you have the opportunity to be

effective, and in fact we already have a lot of personnel there in the army, well, well, i can say about myself, yes, i shoot from the stugna, i shoot from the corsair, i calculate from the lng, they shoot as per artillery, i fly on fpv, yes, well, that is such a resume, which is a good resume, believe me, in two years, we have quite a lot of people like me in the army, but the saddest thing is that here is me or there is petra. is there a wedding with such a track record, berka comes and we are simply thrown into a trench with one machine gun, without, for example, any protection there, just like heavy muscle, personnel are not valued, unfortunately, it has even come to this , that a certain unit of weapons was understood, but at the beginning of the war, by the way, we lost a lot of weapons, yes, but now we have the opposite problem, we have a unit of some kind of weapon that is valued more than the calculation that serves it, i now encounter it more than once. with the fact that, well, you don't know

what kind of games are going on, but let's take away from this brigade, for example, their weapons there, give them to that brigade, and just generally send the calculation to the infantry, well, moreover, that these the calculations are professional, there is no one else in that brigade at all, no one knows how to shoot with that weapon, that is, resources must be spent there to prepare new calculations, while they shoot, well, i don't know there 500 shells to become really professionals, that's what kind of money, that if one shell is 200 dollars, yes, they will not hit from the first 500 of these shells there, you understand, yes, while they learn, here just in some , i don’t know, i don’t know what kind of attitude it is to personnel, and we are just now putting these people in the trenches, who already know how to hit the enemy, well, let’s not with the first, with the second projectile, what is the problem and why are they the solution is hard to come by, probably, i hope it's not something out there a special intention, but simply because there is no other way out? yes, no, we do not underestimate the number of dumb people in the population.

a general human problem, i will tell you, and what does stupid mean in principle, yes, stupid is not a person who has a low intelligence, it is not a bad person, it can be a good person with a high intelligence, but who by his actions causes losses for and for myself and for those around me , well, unfortunately, in principle, we now have such a situation in the country for a long time that our elite consists of stupid people, and when the elite consists of stupid people, this stupidity penetrates all echelons. up to the point of military tactics and strategy, because i don't understand who could have an interest in rotting the calculation of some sau who was liberating snake island, who would be interested, who would benefit from it, just so that they take away , i don't know, the same one there, for example there to bohdan and give it to someone who is newly mobilized so that they learn from him, do not shoot and do not hit the enemy, in which? in which city of the chain

do you think this lag occurs? i ask now, bringing it to the topic of such a thing the opposition of the vocal and the silent in the military and political i don't know about this, i'll tell you right away i have my own very narrow fragment of work, yes i have my platoon, a certain number of guys, there is a section of the front, there are combat tasks that need to be solved, i don't know much about i know all this, but everything that... i see around me , i really don't like it now, our army is gradually turning into a soviet army, there is a lot of self-righteousness, very little interaction, i remember the first year of the war, for example, when i fought in the 17th brigade, in front of each during the operation, the commanders gathered, i don’t know, in some school, in some class, at their desks, we discussed every step, what we were going to do, we haven’t done this for a whole year, there is no such thing anymore, yes, when earlier intelligence gave me some targets , the guys just found out that i was busy, and they...

they were flying somewhere and saw something there, they found me, they were looking for me, now the targets, now i have to do my own reconnaissance, ugh, that is, i don’t really understand what is happening and why and who needs it now, what do we have now? such a situation occurred in the army that we we are gradually becoming similar to the russian army , the qualification of commanders at a certain level can be a problem, the biggest problem is the sure value of human life, again at the beginning of the war, we simply blame the russians for this, at the beginning, at the beginning of the war, it was highly valued in brigades, well, brigades , let's say, professional crews that have been there since the 14th year. life , because again, every loss at the front, yes, from the 14th year, there to the 22nd year, there were checks right away, and what happened, and why so, and it was somehow already stitched in of blood that you have to appreciate, and here for six months, another six months, another six months, how come we are falling so low, now we

have it, i often come across the fact that commanders brag about the number of losses , we fought so well, we have so many losses, and it’s like an indicator of the effectiveness of their involvement. yes, unfortunately, unfortunately, unfortunately, there are problems with this, very big problems. ah, yes, i was not ready for the fact that i will hear it so openly now, but to be honest, similar signals from military personnel, they sound periodically, but you know, to us, to us, to the people civilians, we understand that a person who is in combat conditions and at the front, he can see concrete. there is exclusively his own, and besides, well, we understand that this is a person with the maximum amount of critical thinking on the one hand, but also emotional intensity, so to what extent it can be reduced to a real story, i do not know, here i will tell you, there is a very big shortage

of servicemen at the front now, mobilization is breaking down, that is, once again understand that all the soldiers are in spirit, they did not sit at home, they already went to fight. on the first days of the war, again, all the people with increased responsibility before their state, they also left, well, maybe there, i don't know, there were very serious reasons there with children, with health, yes, but all those who somehow they could do it, they gave up everything and went to fight again at the beginning of the war, now the situation is that many of these people have already finished, let's say this, yes, many of them again... have the wrong one, the wrong one physical level, in order to continue to be constantly at the front, very strongly affect the psyche of a concussion, that is, i have more than once encountered the fact that a wonderful person, a wonderful brother-in-law, after several concussions and getting into serious alterations, he simply gives up psychologically , he begins to have panic attacks, that is, against

this whole background, of course, an influx of new blood is needed, but what kind of blood is this again, yes, that is, these are people who are not actually ready to fight, we certainly have problems with this, and why... i am talking about this all the time, and at the same time , no matter what my opinion is, well, you can think , that i'm there from the front, and that's why i have everything like that emotions are wound up, but people must be protected , i am talking about this, especially protect those who, who, who, since the beginning of the war, who are professionals, well, in principle, there are different, there are different means, there are weapons, there is intelligence, there are new technologies, yes in order to protect people, protect professionals, and... this is not a way out of the situation that let's mobilize someone fresh, send them to study in britain, then we will have an elite military unit there, an elite brigade , it's not true, it doesn't work, already made one such brigade of the 46th, which lost a lot of equipment, a lot of people, people passed 100 training, they fought for 3 days, they

ended there, you see, it doesn’t work, that is , people need to be worked on, people need to be protected, their professional level should be developed, you can’t finish these and... recruit new ones, i’m talking about this mainly in the first place i say , therefore, that is why we need to move away from these companies, where we , let's say, sacrifice a large part of the personnel, for the sake of some small tactical victories, and maybe they are not victories at all, yes, if we put, put military professionals for this, but you still need to include more in your head, more include technology, teach people more , and again, not the newly mobilized, let the newly mobilized go to the front as often as possible, so that they gradually recruit there, the most important thing, first, by the way, in the war, learn to survive, so let them go to the front they are learning to survive slowly, but at this time, let's still take professionals from the front, teach them the next technologies and mono weapons, they will then

again cover these mobilized, freshly mobilized, give them the opportunity somewhere like that not exactly on the first line, but somewhere on the second, on the third with leaps and bounds to learn, that is, it must somehow be put professionally. all this interaction and exchange of these people, but professionals should be given the opportunity to rest and learn and feel sorry for them and... not waste them to zero, let's say so, because we will not take others like them. turn on well - it's when everything is as you want. click, and you are in the world of cartoons, click and around the world of cinema, then, oh, what is needed. turn on hundreds of channels, thousands of movies and sports. icelandic moss vitamin c - your strength to fight with. slemeniya icelandika there are books for bedding icelandika 15%, travel pharmacies you tash, plantain knows

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feedback, you can express your opinion at any time of the day with the help of a telephone survey, turn on and be included, the verdict with serhiy rudenko, every weekday from 20 to 22 for espresso. let's move a little with you in the reality of non-active hostilities, but you know, somehow the internal struggle can be a little more stylish here, i don't get the impression that mimicry has reached something simple in these two years. crazy, full scale like and ours, our war with the russian federation, it concerns a large number of people who,

after february 22, and very successfully and some extremely organically look in a patriotic role, you do not understand how it correlates with the actions or thoughts or words of a person , how she used to live, i was asked to ask you this, here is just the story of mr. wilcoll, listen, well and ... first, thank god, thank god, because the fashion for patriotism is the best thing that can be in the country for the development of patriotism, as for mr. vilkul, it is for him i'm sorry, in fact it's not mimicry, the wolf from the first days began to protect the crooked horn, these are different things, listen, the person who came out and said i was wrong, uh, he said, i was wrong, you bandera people were right, i'm with you , and he really was with us and is with us now, right? this time, in fact, i see other things here, and tell me, please, in our government there, you

know a lot of those who said, and i was wrong, i bring it to this, how can we distinguish a real, you know, person , who has changed her views and is trying her best with his work, daily, to correct even his own mistakes from mimicry, the point is not even that, that is, i absolutely believe that various circumstances can influence a person to change his views, if this... a person changed his views to those of the state, thank god, on my knees before this person is ready to stand up, but again our trust in this, yes, that is, here is a person who says that she has changed her views, well, not a person , a statesman, let's say, a person, a person who calls himself a statesman , yes, i will not say politician, because i make a little difference a politician who fights for power, for the influence of a statesman who wants the state to develop, preserve, defend, yes? but in our country, in principle, politicians often say that they are actually statesmen, that is, people

who call themselves statesmen, but they have changed, they have really changed their views, before it was cotton wool, before what is the difference, let's look at putin, let's make a diversion, we are demining the whole world, the main thing is to stop shooting and everything will be fine in our country, yes, people have changed their views and say, we will defend ourselves, we we will liberate crimea, we are a great ukrainian nation that can fend for itself... we will have a ukrainian army, we will have ukrainian weapons, we have a great future for ukraine, and rashka goodbye, ugh, there will never be these mistakes again, okay, i am with this person... i am ready to do many things together, but i want to be sure, sure, that this is not a game, that it is sincere, yes, in this case, i want to hear from this, from this person, sorry, sorry, i such and such a person was wrong, at one time we persecuted people like you who stood for statehood ukraine, we just persecuted, we tried to destroy,

we tried to destroy the ukrainian defense, we tried to destroy the ukrainian army, because we were wrong, because there were very... very many people in ukraine who expected this from us, we wanted to be popular among them, and that's why we were wrong, sorry, let's continue moving together, i'm ready to move together with such people, yes, well, there were such people, for example, wilka, the same, but in the modern ukrainian government, wilka is not exactly the government , yes, in general not even at all, not even at all power, but in in the modern ukrainian government, i still cannot trust any of our potential leaders, because i was not told these words. we, like me, were not told these words, that is, we are actually now in a situation where you have more points of contact with a werewolf than with someone who, perhaps, is not so tarnished in the context of a long reputation there, but still not said, i said again, why, why i don't trust, but because i'm afraid that in this case, saying such words,

they want to throw us patriots into the gutter, yes, why are we there, why now someone is bragging about the number of dead, right? perhaps it is just profitable to grind us patriots, yes, to stay in this country with those who are now avoiding mobilization, but this is the basis of the electorate of our government, but what will happen next, again, well, it’s a see-saw, if we , to destroy the ukrainian statesmen, to once again lean against those who, against any kind of struggle, think only of the actual little thing. is there a little more trough, will ukraine not then sway in the other direction, will we not once again look for slavery in the arms of the raskha, yes, that's why, in principle, i'm very, very not very interested in the defenders of ukraine being sacrificed, it means, it could mean that our struggle for ukraine can

be sacrificed, huh, and... a few more really important questions, i and i prepared them with the team, but everything is going as it goes on the waves, honestly, i can’t help but ask, your expectations are there, for example, a year ago, at the end of the 22nd year, and here we are with you we spend the 23rd, what it was, what it is, to what extent, that is, everything that will be on the 22nd, in principle, you predicted, even in their last program on espresso, and did you predict? 23rd year as it was. yes, i believe that the war will continue for a very long time. i think the war will be a long time coming, actually. a year ago, i already, i, i started saying that the war would last at least 5 years. ugh. at the moment, i am ready to say that it will be even longer. but the front, despite all the problems that i just told you about, in principle, by and large, we won the war, what does it mean

we won? we can get a front. ugh. we we can protect, protect ourselves from the onset of dew. of the federation, regardless of how the adequacy there increases, how the adequacy decreases in us, we can still hold this front, and exist as a state at the same time, yes, there are much fewer threats to the statehood of ukraine now than there were in the 19th, in the 20th , 21st years, much less, but what will this state be like, this is already a very serious question, i believe that, judging by the way everything is moving, this state will still be bad for a very long time, because despite on what is growing again, the power of our defense is increasing, the level of patriotism is increasing - this is also protection, the level of national culture is increasing, this is also our protection, but we are losing freedom of speech, we are losing freedom as such, ah, we are losing, we are losing the institutions of the state, we , we lost

the state elite, i.e. the elite as such we have had in principle for a long time. no, this country already exists far without an elite, therefore, therefore, to talk about the fact that this country will quickly, let's say, flourish, i can't, but on the other hand, on the other hand, you understand, for the life of the country, which we have already defended, statehood which we have already defended, what is 10 years, it is nothing for the life of the country, for the state, for the life of ukraine, it is nothing, it is a small period for ukraine , it is a big period for human life, right? but i will tell you, modern society, modern society, modern men, ukrainians deserved it, unfortunately, unfortunately, it was basically destroyed by their hands. on state institutions, the army was destroyed at one time, the state elite was destroyed, and therefore this is now a long way, how will we get out of this pits, pay with your life time, we will pay

for it, an important and very delicate point, the council has passed a new law regarding the national military memorial cemetery, and we understand how important it is now to approach this topic competently and subtly, we see. various not very successful attempts to perpetuate the memory of our heroes, and a systematic approach is not enough to make it both ethical, and aesthetic, and generally for the future. it really affects you , your family as a whole, and how you see it, how you think about this project in general, if you think, to be honest, i didn't think about it, i didn't think about it , the only thing i want to say is that it seems to me, what i see on facebook, there are too many... critics, well, in principle, ukrainians always don't like anything, too much, well, actually, this is not a topic where you need to criticize like that, in principle , it seems to me that it is even necessary here, but i

am a widow, i would like to receive even more support in these topics than critics, to be honest, i was even a little saddened by this large influx of criticism about this, ugh, that's what i can say, if we talk about some vision of mine, i... talk about it, i didn't think about it, to be honest, i didn't think about it, you'll think about yourself, what will happen to you, sometimes i think about my boys, but i didn’t think about such general things in this context, well, in your opinion, does this speak precisely about the tendency to destroy the elite and institutions in our country, when people, in particular artists, who have specific visions should do this work, but it is there at different levels himself... and we still don't have some unconscious option for competent commemoration of our heroes? i can't answer this question

, honestly, i can't, i can't, because it 's not that simple here, artists also try to do what they can, and in principle, any initiative, in fact, should be supported, not criticized , i still want to say about it again, there is too much criticism, okay, then we will not criticize, in the end, i would probably like to ask. like your family and how you feel on those days when you are not at the front, but you can at least to meet me, i am very grateful to you for this time, my family, all thanks to god, in fact, i will tell you, for this country i am a happy person, why am i a happy person, i have no husband, no son, no father, and not even a brother, although my brother fought, but he was wounded a lot, and here i am, in principle... this is a happy person, i also want to tell you that i still have a family, this is my platoon, honestly saying, well, you already know,

these are already family relationships, two years already in the same trenches, we know everything about each other, we already kind of accept each other in a family way, yes, any problems, well , how about family members, so in fact , i have a lot, a lot of family now, i will not... i will ask which one i am drawn to more, probably when these few days you are in kyiv, you want to be closer to your front-line family, when you are there, of course you want to be with your children, but now is the time, and we see how much life has not stopped and how much people continue to live as if it were the last day, sometimes i look at some it really gives the impression, as you can see, that... it seems to me that all the military understand, we we are working hard for a long time and we have to work hard now for a long time, but not all civilians have yet understood that it is a long time, and it is necessary somehow to use our own

strength and resources here in civilian life, relatively speaking, also to count with an eye on the war, this is at least, listen, again, i would not like to criticize now, because i will say that we are all not without sin, because, for example , if i think about it even once, we are... i, for example, are a family, it is very, well, it is big family, yes, it's, it's there cousins, sisters, their, their families, so, from all over our family, my brother and i are fighting, from all over , yes, that is, i can’t speak now, but i’m coming to kyiv, everything is so annoying to me, because everyone lives peacefully here , it’s the same in my family, yes, that’s the same exactly, my brother and i are the only ones fighting out of our entire huge family, ah, but, you understand, it is also very difficult for me... to talk about it objectively, because i have also weaned myself from this life, that is, when i come to kyiv, everything annoys me not only because it is wrong, what is happening here, but because my life is different, i come, i

i'll tell you now in... like in another country, that's real, like abroad, ugh, i have, i have a completely different life, i'm just laughing, you know, when he says, before, for example, i really liked to travel, yes, i really liked to travel, i say, now my life is also full of traveling, traveling to the neighboring landing, to the neighboring house, somewhere else , that is, the whole universe, so you understand, to take a certain position, it is a whole universe, it is a whole country, listen, you know there, every tree, every branch. to run 50 m - listen, it's not that simple, but i'll tell you for real, 50 m movement is hoo-hoo, yes, so here is the case, i actually, you know, this is still a very big question, what to do with all those people who return from the war, so that they already have a completely different way of thinking, and you you will understand, if a different mindset was formed during six months, and if it has been forming for almost two years, and what will happen in 3 years, and what will happen in four years, i am coming to kyiv,

absolutely. well, a culture that is foreign to me, so foreign, everything here annoys me beyond measure, but this is not because everything is bad here, but because i became different, and we also have problems with this, but there are real problems with this, there will be problems with the integration of people, which of course will be crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy, there will simply be problems, but the ministry of veterans, veteran programs that must be developed right here and now, you hear something, you know something about it, no, i don't hear anything, i don't know anything, i don't know anything about it. these programs, i don't know anything about women's uniforms, i don't know anything, so on, there's a lot going on here, but everything is different here, so what's the reason such a gap, here we have more, sorry for the live broadcast, and we live, and it seems to us that we are aware of absolutely everything, or we and we, in particular, as journalists show a little bit not that listen, you know, i again, a lot you think about all this , values ​​completely, completely, completely change, then you move to...

some awareness, and i, for example, realized that i, for example, fought for justice all my life, yes, and realized that i always i lost in this fight, i thought to myself, my god, that's the way it goes life, when you fight for justice , you lose, but when you fight for survival, you win, but now i fight for survival, in each specific case i win, i think, my god, how my life has turned out, you know, fight , okay, to amuse you like this, you understand the absurdities you reach , i understand, but this struggle for survival, well, it seems, as if the whole country is engaged in this now, well, everyone seems to go to work in the morning, and he is already fighting for survival, the truth, even if this work for justice in general, in general, has already come to an end below the plinth, and that's why, and that's why we are really losing the country in this sense, i understand that being at the front, and here behind me, i 'm losing the country, i'm losing precisely democracy.

yes, i am losing that free ukraine , which was very free-thinking, which was very comfortable because of this, yes, we are losing it, but damn , it turns out that you have to pay for everything, you don’t want to blame those in the rear, you don’t want to, you don’t want to i want to, because we are not finalizing it, i don’t want to, i don’t want to blame, these are all systemic things, you know, very systemic things, not everything is so simple, no there are simple solutions to complex problems, so you have to choose to be in the area where it is more difficult. well, for example, now the front section is really more difficult and, well, if we lose the front, yes, we will lose everything in general, here i tell you, well, 10 years of the life of the country, 20 years of the life of the country, then somehow that's all it will be necessary to grasp the best option, if we win, many have said before, you can’t say if, we say

only when, but... as far as i’m concerned, it’s very infantile to talk about victory, like it's a fait accompli now, you can, but what a victory it is, yes, in principle, a victory for the protection of statehood, it is, we won, again, we won the war to protect our statehood, no matter what happens next, this country will be, that's what no matter what happens, this state will exist in any case, and this is the first war we won from khan batia, so you understand, that is, if we want to talk about victory, then we have to talk about it now, huh. .. but about the fact that, in principle , this is a conflict, this war is no longer like that nakali, as it was in the beginning, it will continue for many more years, it will continue for many more years, is that true? there may be some permanent peace agreements there but that doesn't mean the war will end, it will continue for many years to come, we will have to learn to live with war now, and in this case, i understand what you want to say, i i have to say there: