tv [untitled] December 28, 2023 1:00pm-1:30pm EET
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some people live because they have family circumstances, why did they end up there with children, with disabled people, with family members, everyone in principle, everyone is at risk that their cards will be blocked there, it will not be possible to get a new passport, in as a result, people went to stand in queues at checkpoints abroad in order to quickly change their passports, why do you think that the government, which in principle is better than... well understands such information technologies and how it should be submitted, why does it i didn't take this component into account, especially since i still have one a great resource as an informational telethon, a huge telethon so that people perceive it as a part of life, not as part of a threat to themselves, their neighbors and wealth, including their own. families, i think the problem
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is that the government in the broad sense does not have a clear vision, a clear understanding of how to act for victory, that is, the war has entered a protracted phase at the moment, and i say that there is a farewell to illusions, and to act purely reactive. is no longer possible, you need to act proactively, you need to create a certain coordinate system, in which the ukrainian society will live, but you understand that this is already in the first days of a large-scale invasion, he said the phrase that no matter what happens to us, it will be difficult, but we will not be ashamed, zelensky cannot repeat this phrase, but i do not i understand why zelenskyi cannot act... as a united
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front or a duet, if you like, with valery zaluzhny and say: we fight to victory, we cooperate, we provide everything for ukraine to win. these needs, informational, actually lie on the surface, and when i saw the survey today deminitiative, where ukrainian citizens trust the armed forces twice as much as the president, then this is a communication disaster for the office of the president and for the office-presidential republic that was built there. at the moment, there is simply an urgent need to form a government of national unity, which will work on issues of mobilization and ensure it, create... a responsible
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government and remind the whole world that we have a parliamentary-presidential, not an office-presidential republic. this is the only possible, in my opinion, way out of the situation that developed because the silencing of this problem will be negative for all of us, all of us without exception, and look at how actively russia is acting in this situation, how the russians, briskly, i would say, ... with fire use those contradictions that at the moment exist, we must fight back, fight back, we must all work for the victory of ukraine, clearly, each in the field in which he is engaged, and the more will be correctly stitched and correctly. sent
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messages to the president, to members of his team, the better it will be for all of us. now it is not time for elections, now is not the time for ratings, now is the time to fight for ukraine. 22 months of large-scale invasion have shown that ukraine has withstood the russian blow, but the war is not over for us, and the enemy remains strong and powerful enough. this is, unfortunately, a fact, we, you know, it is not good and not bad, it is a fact, and we, accordingly, have to look for opportunities to convince the west of the need to increase our assistance, this can be done only at the expense of internal transformations, any what other cavalry jumps over the ocean, they, as experience shows. does not
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work you mentioned the results of the survey conducted by the social service of the razumkov center and the democratic initiatives foundation. i to our viewers on... facts from this survey. 94% of surveyed ukrainians now trust the armed forces. the majority of ukrainian citizens do not trust political parties, the state apparatus, courts and the judicial system in general. so, volunteer battalions are trusted by 89%. state emergency service - 83%. national guard - 82, ministry defense - 73. the state border service - 72, the security service of ukraine - 71%, the national police - 58%, well, according to the survey data , 68% of respondents trust the president of ukraine zelensky, ukrainians also trust public and
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volunteer organizations 63%, 86, respectively and the church 63%. well, if you look at these numbers, it is clear that zelenskyi... as the supreme commander of the armed forces of ukraine, should take more initiative and responsibility, as in this case with the bill on mobilization, it would be obvious the rating was equal, although even now we do not talk about the rating, but the trust rating, whether it would be equal to the armed forces of ukraine or not, you, as a political scientist, how to explain this phenomenon, because the president is the supreme commander. zaluzhny is the head of the armed forces of ukraine, and the trust rating of the head is higher than that of the supreme commander? well, this is a paradox, and this paradox, in principle, visibly unnerves the presidential team. by the way, i don't quite understand what
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the volunteer battalions, which have been around for several years, are doing in the rating as not, but there is trust in them, that is, they have been integrated into the ranks of the national armed forces for a long time. guards, ministry of internal affairs, etc. but, i will say that at the moment, the citizens of ukraine demonstrate to the world and ukrainian authorities that they understand well enough who, where, and for what is responsible. and therefore, any game around valery zaluzhny is counterproductive in this case. i think the banks understand this well enough. but there. they should also understand that our joint victory is a priority, you understand and it is necessary to voice the parameters of this victory, maybe not in some absolute numbers, facts and dates, but to work on it and
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show that we are moving towards something, we are going towards something, the time when it was possible to make exclusively bravura statements has passed. unfortunately , it has passed, if we recall today the statement of the first vice-premier mrs. sveredenko, about the possibility of delays, payments to pensioners and civil servants, then this is bad news, one can argue about why she made this statement, but the news is bad for warring country because we must to use all resources for victory, and inside the state, if you want, in the rear... there should be no doubt about this victory, it is a serious matter, and we must work on it as actively as possible, and not engage in various speculations, because it is no secret that we are actually financed by our allies, this is a little
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secret, the secret is why even after the arrest for bribing the head of the supreme court, the fight against corruption in ukraine did not... acquire the character of irreversibility and did not get rid of the signs of campaigning. thank you, mr. evgeny, we have to complete our program, unfortunately, thank you for participating in the program, evgeny magda, executive director of the institute of world politics. friends, during our program, we conducted a survey, we asked you whether a single telethon is needed in ukraine. so, what are the results of the survey that we conducted for tele. of viewers 10% yes needed 90 not needed on youtube survey results 8% yes 92% no. these are the results of today's verdict program survey. this, friends, is where i end it, i wish you all the best health, take care of yourself and your relatives,
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greetings to all espresso viewers. thank you for being with us, thank you for having the opportunity to be with you. my name is khrystyna yatskiv, and it's the day before one of the biggest christian holidays - christmas. it is a great honor for us to be here and to have the opportunity to speak with father. and the head of the ukrainian greek catholic church, his beatitude svyatoslav shevchuk. greetings to all. christ was born. let's praise him. well, your holiness, you and i finally have an opportunity to talk about major christian holidays and not feel the time gap so much, as it was before. yes, with a difference in calendars, dates and... readings. the majority of christians in ukraine, after all, are united now in one date, in one
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flow, of love, i hope. and, is this our great achievement, not only church, maybe even national, that we were able to reach this point, what steps do we still need to take in this direction? well, really, er, christmas is special this year. why? because we shine it. together, together not only orthodox, catholics, greek catholics, but also protestant brothers, together, as believers in ukrainian. society, but also together with the whole world. it is so important for us to feel unity, unity and solidarity among ourselves, especially in such difficult circumstances of war. i can honestly say that this decision was very special, i think, both on the part of our orthodox brothers and
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our synod of bishops, we somehow felt that the moment had come, theologically speaking. we call it kairos, this wave that the lord god gave us, we have been waiting for it, maybe for centuries, er, our people, our predecessors, er, we also felt that if we had a year or six months sooner this done, it would have been too soon, uh, if it had been six months later, it would have been too late, we did it very, very on time, and really, er... we really wanted to feel how our people would react, our believing people in ukraine, in particular, er, you know what the reaction was of unity, of great joy, er, of all our parishes, only one parish in ukraine asked for permission to remain on the old calendar for a while longer, and this is one of our communities
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in the kharkiv region, uh, and so the whole church perceived it as something to... natural and for which our people are grateful to the church leaders who dared to undertake this reform, so thank god, we have christmas, christmas together, christmas, which is a sign of solidarity, unity of the internal ukrainian people, and a sign of unity of the whole world together with us, for us with the whole world, but we cannot lose sight of it. christians in ukraine who, for various reasons, i would like to emphasize this, still remain faithful to the ukrainian orthodox church of the moscow patriarchate, the russian orthodox church, and we have to be understanding towards people
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who, again, have different motives stay, and it is not always love for the russian federation. this is still not an understanding of the moments of canonicity, for example , of the orthodox church of ukraine, how so quickly , tomos, it was recently, here is a century- long process, history, it is simply difficult for some to accept new circumstances and go on the opposite side, but together with how we in in our country , which is now very polarized, in a political, social sense, we see. what has been going on for two years of war - it's just hard, and people feel it and very often, this kind of anger is already starting to one thing is simply to be splashed somewhere more than necessary, how can we harmoniously experience and accept all these processes, wait for those christians
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who are still somewhere in their thoughts, well, maybe i will start with... the first accent, which, which you mentioned, is really war - this is a tragedy, and it marks all of us with a deep trauma, perhaps until the end we have not yet realized which features of our personal life, the life of our society are marked by this reality, we all feel that the pain is growing. the first reaction to the crimes of the russian aggressor is this there is hatred, how to deal with those feelings? we have been thinking about it, we have been talking about it since the very beginning of this war, but we see that these problems are deepening, and today, er
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, every priest who tries to build the unity of his parish, i think, our... public leaders, political figures who feel certain trends in society, feel new lines of tension that are being built, which are not related to whether a person lives in a russian-speaking region of ukraine or a ukrainian-speaking one, whether they are orthodox or catholics, new lines voltage is built up. based on personal experience of the tragedy of war, here we see it, let's say someone stayed put, yes, someone. left as an internally confused person, then returns back, and the neighbors no longer understand each other, the man
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went to fight at the front, returns home, well, he and his wife have different experiences of the tragedy of war, and sometimes a man and a woman do not understand each other understand, those who... lived through the occupation and liberation, sometimes feel that those people who live in relatively peaceful, western regions of ukraine do not hear, do not they feel that there is a war going on. in such circumstances, how can we still build unity, the unity of our people, how to unite in the name of a common goal. this is such a rather complicated issue, we must deal with it. together to give an answer, but from such a pastoral side we already see one phenomenon that should make us think very seriously, sometimes
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we look for such a, you know, scapegoat on which to hang our own pain, and sometimes we choose it very spontaneously , so it can be, well, someone is standing nearby. which is easy pour out your negative emotions, it could be some, i don't know, person or institution that didn't do everything that we expected of it, or the way we imagined it should do it, obviously, this is a very dangerous phenomenon, it is, on the one hand, natural, because this pain, well, it hurts us , we want to spontaneously pour it out on someone, so it is very dangerous... you know, to give in to the temptation to devour each other, uh, to give in to the temptation, to project this
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negative energy of ours, even sometimes er er abuse ourselves, we shouldn't er do it, but everyone together we must understand that the trauma of war is a certain challenge that we must face... many of those who are engaged in the analysis of social processes, even deep ones, analysts, psychotherapists, say that our success, our victory depends not not only from the strength of our weapons, but from the ability of ukrainians to cope with the consequences of the trauma that war inflicts on all of us. therefore , it is difficult
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to overestimate the role of the church, the role of those who try to be the core of the consolidation of our society, because it depends on our inner ability to withstand these challenges our future depends on it. thank you, it may seem strange to some that i am asking the head of the head of the ukrainian greek catholic church. about the orthodox, about their relationship to the orthodox church of ukraine and about all these transitions, but i would very much like that in our consciousness and in our ukrainian realities, the christian churches were really, really brothers to each other, and that we could openly talk about each other's processes, to share experience, especially since the ukrainian greek catholic church is very... very modern, and i am very grateful to you for this work, which is held daily, the understanding that the world does not stand still, and you are also
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ready to develop together with the world, this is incredible, this is just what people asked to convey, to be honest, but still returning to the processes of 2023, we saw the work of the supreme advice on trying to eradicate russian in ukraine after all. a tour that is covered very often by religion, right? and we have taken the first steps in this direction. we will see how it will be in practice, because we understand that the processes there are not easy. we have certain actions regarding the great christian shrine, kyiv-pechersch laurels, yes, and we hope that very soon every ukrainian will feel a sincere desire to come there and not feel a russian-like spirit. i'm sorry, but i'm interested in the issue of the pochaiv lavra, for example, we understand the experience of this shrine and
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the ukrainian one. of the greek catholic church, a certain historical duration, how do you consider all these processes and do you hope that they will affect not only kyiv, but also the saints in the west? i think we are witnessing very interesting processes, thank you very much for the compliment about modernity, i think we should not be afraid renewal, because the church is a living organism, it is not some ossified institution. which simply clings to the stereotypes of the past , such a church will always be doomed to certain crises, if the church feels itself to be the leader of public opinion, the mother and teacher of its people, the soul of this people who is fighting for its freedom, it will always be modern, the eternal will always be modernized , enter,
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embody in our present. eh, but we have a very interesting historical moment that we cannot lose: something is happening in ukraine the process of decommunization and de-russification in various aspects of our life, i think, the same process of decommunization and de-russification should go through the religious environment of ukraine. we must be sincere, we must be frank that the russian orthodox church was, and , unfortunately, today remains an instrument of enslavement of e-e peoples, an instrument not only of e-e russification, but the planting of certain stereotypes or archetypes of social behavior that were created in in communist
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times. we know that even the name of the russian orthodox church was given to that church by stalin, who tried to use religion as a tool not for religious, but for atheistic enslavement, not only of his own citizens, but also of influence on international arenas. this church was an instrument of the destruction of ukrainian. of the greek catholic church, and all our efforts to start a serious dialogue in order to heal the wounds of the past and give this church an opportunity to change itself, did not achieve the desired success, and today society is demanding these vestiges of soviet and russian
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imperialism. er, put yourself very deep question, that is why it is natural that ukrainian society demands de-russification and decommunization, even from the orthodox environment, which unfortunately, unfortunately , carries this negative baggage, that is why it is so important that the ukrainian state finally remembers that. .. the pechersk lavra and the pochaiv lavra are state property, that they are monuments, spiritual shrines that do not belong to any particular denomination, but they are the shrines of the entire ukrainian people, and we must all take responsibility for them. so, even when i listen, you know how our people's
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deputies outline their own. legislative intentions regarding churches, and when we hear that there is talk of banning a certain church, i am very cautious about it, because our church was banned at one time, and it is impossible to ban a church, i would approach this process from a positive side, our ukrainian government should help the church to get rid of the russian imperial... influence, that is , de facto today there is a process of liberation of the ukrainian orthodox church, ugh, and of the orthodox church of ukraine from that russian baggage. interestingly, our brothers from the orthodox church of ukraine experience it in their own way.
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