protects the infrastructure, but these missiles could be used in the future against something bigger, against bigger targets, you said the statistics for the shaheds, but can we talk about missiles, that in principle , we are gradually closing the main facilities, because it is not a secret, well, we can even look according to the statistics, which western samples we received, that it is russia that is attacking, so obviously it is the capital, obviously it is the south, the port infrastructure, well, staro constantin is just one of the top targets in recent months , probably for watching, if you say directly, in fact, at the moment, in ukraine , at the moment, a very powerful anti-aircraft defense has been built, which is insane, and at the expense of, for example, the same mobile groups that use small arms, we shoot down most of the shaheds, that is , it is much cheaper than we would used shahedov

, there is some kind of anti-aircraft defense with surface-to-air missiles, that’s why, if we say at the moment , then in fact yes, we have us, our territory is protected, but i do not agree with some theses when we are told that the west is the west they say to the press that, for example, kyiv is protected there, a protected city in europe, no, they are not the most protected city, because we don't have thad, ugh, let's go to thad to fight against ballistics, well, we... used to say that about petrus petrus , and we already have them, but we really need more for our territory, let's talk about it in a little more detail, because strengthening the air shield of ukraine is extremely important and not only for protection against drones and missiles, but also against airplanes. on december 22, as i already said, ukrainian air defense shot down three enemy su-34 bombers. volodymyr zelenskyi thanked the partners who contributed to this. the possibility of knocking down russian wines. this is one of

the keys to ending this war, to ending it justly. i thank all partners who are already helping us with this. the regions of ukraine are strengthening mobile air defense groups to counter russian threats from the air, deputy head of the president's office, oleksiy kuleba, said. according to him , the creation and staffing of such groups continues every day, and it is they who are entrusted with the function of quick response to launches by terrorists. drones, anatolia, it is clear that there is no such thing as 100% efficiency, but the russians are still trying to improvise or modify their drones, black color, use of other materials, maybe even other, quieter engines, how much will it complicate the work of such mobile groups? look, if we talk directly about chess, yes, we see changes, but they are not significant in reality, why, because despite. they

changed the antenna there for receiving satellite signals, i.e. gps positioning, changed it to a russian comet, then they started painting in black color, somewhere else they contrived something, screwed in a mobile sim card of some mobile operator, yes, but again they do not go beyond the limits, i.e. the outer case does not change completely, i.e. it does not become somehow more square for to avoid radar. at the station, that is, what we see now is due to the fact that the russians are producing these shaheds, they are due to this and introduce some changes in order to somehow manage to overcome our air defense, so black color, maybe it will be it is difficult to see it at night, yes, but there are a number of systems that we use to detect these beeps, so we can see because of this, changing the engine is also the same. it also affects the distance of operation

of this target, or the speed of flight, or it decreases or increases, for example, the faster the air target, the easier it is to find it by radar detection stations, so in fact the enemy changes something, we learn and we improve our indicators , we see that recently we have destroyed 90%, but the question arises, why in russia, well, although... we know the answer, because iran supplied its technologies and developed it, it seems, for up to 20 years, so shahed, and why is there no shahed in ukraine, given that it is quite primitive, and at least what i hear from ukrainian developers, technologically ukrainian drones are better than russian ones, and there are too many of them, maybe this is the problem, that there are too many of them, of names, but there are not enough of them in quantitative terms, well, in fact, this is the case with us.

a large number of companies engaged in the development and creation of various uavs like, and if you talk about copying the iranian drone, well, actually, i don't see the point of direct there in... exact copying, because, for example, taking into account what we see, taking into account the errors that this racket produces, we can create our own , much better both in terms of flight range and in terms of its properties, this is actually what is happening, even recently they presented there, the ukrainian answer to the iranian shaheed, yes, with the characteristics that allow it to fly there up to 100 km, there up to 800. 700 km, sorry about that the one that social networks reacted to his appearance, that he is like that , but again, we are in an active phase of the war, and now the important operational decisions that fulfill their task with five pluses, huh, so actually saying there,

what it is, oh, it's square there, yes it's square , it's easier to make, it's very quick to assemble, if it performs a function, then let it look as it wants, but in fact, that is, we have many solutions that are on.. . is much better than this shachet, but again, we just need to pay more attention to this industry and help it evolve. well, but there is another side that i hear from the military or people who are involved in one way or another in the production of drones, they say that it is a somewhat wrong attitude of either the ukrainian state or ukrainian developers to try to make a universal model that will be both a reconnaissance drone and. .. the mikadze and maybe even something else will perform some missions, because this is a completely different approach, the reconnaissance drone should be inconspicuous and live as long as possible, but in fact, in the kamikaze itself the name is clear, it’s a one-way drone

, are we really in this plan, well, not us, but some developers are wrong, and the state should somehow regulate this issue, but it’s true, for example, regarding uav developers, we see that there are certain clusters, which... just like that, and it helps developers see more, for example, into the future and find out what is better to produce, for example, with which? in fact, yes, you need to understand that you need to build not only fpv drones that will destroy kmikat drones with fpv, but you need to build large drones that there could be resets and so on, and each of these. the drone must perform a certain task, and in fact it is not bad, because when one drone is sharpened for one task, because if speaking from the point of view of battle tactics, then in fact we should have different weapons that perform different tasks, well, that is, a universal platform it is impossible to come up

with for all this, well, any universal platform will still be limited by some, and there will still be some limitations, because in fact we are there, for example, due to the large number of ... combat part we we reduce the fuel and reduce the flight range of this ash and so on, that is , here again aerodynamics, which calculates how much it is possible to load the wing, how much to load and so on, what engine is needed in order for it to fly, for example, in on the same drones, we saw that the two wings are of a figurative shape, this is very cool for aerodynamics, because it can also plan later, yes, but i would like ukrainian drones. they also carried as much explosives as approximately the shaheds, because that too the ratio is not in our favor, so far , let's hope, but there are grandiose plans for 2024, well, maybe they are realistic plans, and the grandiose ones need to be outlined by others, let's get into this now, because

a million drones in fpv alone are expected next year, and ukraine already produces a lot of drones, the president said at the final press conference, and next year there will be even more, volodymyr zelenskyi. said that there is a problem in the bureaucracy, because of which thousands of drones lie in warehouses and cannot get to the front. the situation will change promises the head of state. i'm just in shock, how can something produced by us not make it. yes, well , we will take care of the logistics. our soldiers will receive domestic drones in the brigades. as for the production of a million drones , we will produce them next year. we will make a million, well, we will do everything to make it so. ukraine may well produce 1 million drones next year, as volodymyr zelenskyi said during a press conference. this is the opinion of oleksandr kamyshchin, minister of strategic industries. at the word of government officials, our state is currently very

made progress in the production of drones for the front. at the final press conference, the president promised that ukraine will produce a million drones next year. and this is only about... drones. already in december, we are producing more than 50,000 eupivodrones. in addition to them, we are already able to produce more than 10,000 medium-range strike drones and more than 100 drones with a range of 1,000 km next year. all production capacities are ready, contracting for 2024 begins. mr. anatolia, if we speak, should probably be compared with the 21st a year, then a million drones, this is considered a colossal achievement, because we actually did not have them, but if we compare it with the capabilities of russia, then a million is only fpv, we do not know about the others, so long-range, maybe reconnaissance drones, which russia can about. .. put instead, well, they claim to be developing their own fp drones there, but we understand that most of

the components that are being developed are chinese components, and the chinese market is teeming with these various components, such as engines, controllers, motion controllers, etc. , that's why in fact, here i think that we need to think more about countermeasures, specifically about the means of radio-electronic warfare, yes, and here again... such as countermeasures must start with operational-tactical solutions, that is, it is in the trenches, when there is some suppressor of the signal, yes, and more stations of a longer range in order to cut off the possibility of even taking off these fpv drones at a long distance, and in fact here is the task of building, building a crazy electronic warfare system that will help us to cope with this rush, and in fact it is... quite logical and such an affordable solution will be right, but do i understand correctly

that actually turning on even the trench reb protects this section of the front from russian attacks, but it is impossible to use your drones as well or not, is it necessary to find ways to, well, a certain frequency at which the drone of the brigade that turned off its own reb will work. in fact, we understand that there is... well , there is a map of actions, on which it is noted, exactly where the means of radio-electronic warfare work, what bands they suppress, and we can get certain corridors that our drones will fly, certain altitudes that our drones can fly at, and also certain frequencies that we can fly at, for example, because if there's an enemy there uses 860-960 mhz there, yes, we can suppress these signals, we can drop to 710. that is, here we have to return to our own developments and make the so-called fpv, so that

it can change the control channels there in a wide range, in fact, that is, there should be variability, constantly changing the frequencies that are suppressed in order to create a corridor for our own, well, that is, we understand that, for example, there is practice there, there is practice on such and such purity, we start ours on this frequency, even if something has changed . in motion, we can change the range control already while in motion, this is me and you talking about obviously civilians, but those used in military operations, drones and fpv, against shaheed, it seems impossible to invent rap now or not, shaheed , against the shaheds, yes, look, the shahed does not use control channels, he only uses a system, receives gps signals and in order to, with the aim of orienting himself to the place where he will be behind... but he actually has a programmed route the route is programmed, and there

is such a check on the gps points, and if we suppress these gps systems, then it starts to be searched and it can get lost, that is, where it is located, so due to this , it rises to a certain height in order to not it doesn't hit somewhere, well, it doesn't hit, and it keeps going straight until you find the channels of communication again, and then it returns again to fulfill its purpose. if we talk about suppression, then if we provide complete , for example, suppression of l1 l2 channels there, well, that is, navigation, yes, gps, galanas, other systems, then we will be able to ensure the direct movement of this shached and it will be much easier for mobile groups to destroy it, well, in fact, we will direct the shaheds to mobile groups and they will be able to say yes, that is, us we understand that we will already understand where it will go, that is, we understand where it is going , in fact, then it will already be possible to do it en masse or at least cover

thousands of kilometers of ukraine? we know where the drones come from mainly, is it the south or the north of our country, is this still unrealistic, given the size of our country, again the size of our country, here we must take into account the fact that this is a high-tech weapon, and it is very expensive is worth in fact, and therefore to talk about it there is an option to close a certain one. there are completely territories ukraine, it is possible, but expensive and difficult in fact, but i think that if we go to that, we can get some solutions if we are talking about russian. aviation in the complex includes drones and airplanes with which we started, well, obviously with drones, and you mentioned it, there is a lot of civil or dual purpose components that russia can purchase without problems in neighboring countries or through neighboring countries, and if we talk about more high-tech russian aviation, and su-34 planes are indicative

worth 50 million dollars, how much can the russians renew? its aircraft fleet with those efforts and under the pressure that is currently being exerted on them, in order to understand the situation tactically, let's take the tactical aviation, su-34, su-30, and russia until 2002, in 2002 it started such a disgrace to the market, and they wanted to sell their planes all over the world, and precisely due to this, they began to implement in the means of their tactical aircraft, they began to implement western high-tech models. similar technology, these were intel processors, and other detection systems and liquid crystal screens and so on, that is , it came from china, the united states, from europe somewhere, and due to this, they created a certain high-tech breakthrough there, as it were, but it was at the expense of foreign developments as well, that is, there were none of our own , already from the 14th year, when certain hints

about sanctions began, they began to work on sanctions slowly, then they began to change, well, we understand that, for example, the same process . changing intel processor to comdiv, a russian komdiv 64 processor, well, just kidding, you know, they copied, that is, they pasted on top of komdiv 64, they use intel, most likely, that is, it is possible, that is, it is not difficult to take, for example, to send a person there with a suitcase, which will bring a suitcase of all the chips, yes, we understand that here the sanctions have to be looked at carefully, because they may not work in reality, because there are... certain shuttlers, as they were called in the past, yes, there are certain countries that help russia bypass all this. that's it. speaking directly about, in fact, now we we see that there are certain problems with high-tech things in russia. why? because as an example, you can take the most beautiful option, the simplest option, yes, this is

civil aviation. that is, there are always emergency situations here, they are always in russia. they were in the second, third place with various situations, and now they have constant failures, the planes do not fly, that is, they are changing them, they are already talking that they will create their tu-214, they will build it again, but the same one again the plane, which was developed back in in the 80s, which was equipped with most of the electrical engineering base that was built under the soviet union, they still have remnants of this, how to build it, how to do it, but they did not manage to fulfill the plan this year, that is... russia said that they planned to build four of them in 2014 by the end of 2023, and now they are not able to cope with one and are asking to postpone the deadline, well, the same is the situation with the dry jet, as far as i know, yes, dry jet, there is mc 21, that is, it those planes are civil aviation, that is, there is no double purpose and they have problems, and what to say

then about military aircraft, then let's expand this topic, because the russian policy of so-called import substitution. transition to components of its own production has failed, the freedom tv channel reports with reference to the russian opposition media. the lack of western high-tech parts and the inability to produce analogs led to russia's technological, technological lag in a number of directions, namely aircraft construction, it, light and heavy industry. there are also problems with serial production of drones, there is a lack of components for them, probably the modifications found in those shot down over ukraine are related to this. minecraft drones. russia is trying to find replacement parts that are missing to reproduce the original iranian design. sanctions against russia are working, but they need to be strengthened by introducing restrictions against intermediary companies that help moscow with gray imports. well, russia also lost $12 billion in subsidizing its own aviation industry after its introduction

western sanctions - reuters reports. after the full-scale invasion , the aircraft manufacturers airbus and boeing stopped. supplies to the aggressor country of spare parts and stopped carrying out regular maintenance, and now the russian federation is forced to develop its aviation industry only at the expense of domestically produced parts, or parts imported illegally. boeings and airbuses, which were used by russian airlines under leasing rights, are now being forcibly bought back from foreign owners. in general, according to reuters, moscow spent more than a trillion rubles to support the industry. civil aviation, including aircraft production and financial assistance to airlines. 12 billion for russia as a whole and for the technological industry, this is significant. damage or not, or russia might not notice it, in your opinion, well, with the available petrodollars, let's say it's a small

amount actually, but again, it's an industry, but the effect, sorry, good effect, good, yes, that is, we see, that is, on the domino effect, when everything starts to fall, because in fact booing aerobus not only does not allow you to use there to replace parts with their own, they do not update the software. there are a number of safeguards, i.e. the same plus companies that are lessors, they took away , well, insurance, insurance was taken away from these planes, that is, they do not guarantee that they will be safe, passengers and everything else, so on these planes already you can't fly to europe, and in fact, if we go back to the civil sector, we already see certain problems, ural airlines has landed there. in the field and they are long they told us that we are a little frozen right now and will take off, but they did not take off, that is , we understand that, again, there are big problems, and they are constantly going on and only getting worse, and the same is true of

sheremetyevo airport, of the number of terminals there, only a third is working , well, that is , the passenger traffic is decreasing, further part of the territory of russia, they also do not receive money for the flight of foreign judges, that is, if they flew before... that is, this is the same flight, this is all due to the fact that everything is paid to the state, that is, if so, the use air corridor, yes, that is why we understand that this is also where all these losses of russian money are counted, okay, but if we say, well, with russia it is clear, it must be a degradation, if sanctions are maintained and their implementation is monitored, what to do with the ukrainian airspace of civil aviation, because... one plane was evacuated from boryspil in december, of course, this is not an indicator of anything at all, but it is another reason

to ask or think about when boryspil or lviv airport is there, or maybe in uzhhorod will start accepting civilian flights as well, what do we need for this, because the president said clearly, well, the absence of any threat from russia opens up space for us, well... in fact, as soon as there is a victory, we understand that we will open immediately airports, yes, but again, if we talk about boryspil, boryspil is in the center of the country, and there are certain problems in the sense that the plane is in the territory of ukraine for a long time, when it wants to fly to boryspil, this is what we saw, the fact that the plane took off from boryspil, if i'm not mistaken, was also in the spring another plane left the territory of boryspil, but if we talk about the western parts of ukraine, lviv, ivano-frankivsk, transcarpathia, yes , the use of these airfields is, in fact, closer there, and it is easier to ensure safety there due to the fact that the time is short, short

the approach distance to the airport, and due to the strengthening of air defense , we can talk about some kind of work of the airports , but then again, ah, here the airports also need to prepare, because they have to equip their bomb shelter, which would accommodate the the number of passengers of the stream that passes. that 's it , and this is a clear plan for further work . , i say, if you say so, it is possible, but let's count the risks and let's think that what will be the profit from this, yes, but if you look at the situation superficially, then a logical question arises , in fact, why in israel ... it is possible in ukraine does not, even if we take western cities, but because, for example, the same company alal, most aircraft are equipped with

an anti-missile defense system, that is, it is a system hanging under the belly that sees the missile and directly destroys the guidance head with a laser, and they have been developing these systems for a very long time, that is, if we are talking about our... well, having their experience and the exclusive right, in fact, it turns out to use ukrainian airspace, if they agree, and can we, well, obviously, develop it for a long time , but can we to count on the fact that our partners will share such technology, and at all can it be, well actually, i just honestly did not know about such a system, in fact it is a civilian ... conventionally boing or airbas with the function of a fighter or i don't know or how it works with the protection function protection function

here it can no longer destroy. it does protect itself, but a certain industry is being created here, which will work directly, because, for example, i don't remember when it happened, but a transport plane of the dhl company was hit in the territory of iraq by some kind of missile, after that, those figures began to equip their planes with the same system, that is, it is the creation of a certain industry that works to protect civilian planes, here or there , what... from transport planes that drive in conflict regions, regions, and so on, but then again, if we talk about planes , let's remember the red sea, recently , if i'm not mistaken, there was even a ship in the indian ocean that was attacked by iran, a tanker was hit, that's why there is also a certain industry that needs to be defended, and here it is rather, we are talking about the fact that

the availability of high-tech democratization has allowed certain countries to make weapons that destroy civilians, and we need to look for countermeasures, and in the end we see that it is ukraine that can find such solutions, can solve this and build its own the industry that will provide these planes, these ships with protection against such and such solutions, such as shaheds, fpv drones, and so on. just from your words, i now have the impression that to protect the plane... in ukrainian realities in in the air is easier, in fact, than on the ground, well, because on the ground it can even be fragments of something, fragments that will have a critical impact on the very structure of the aircraft or on its system, and it is obvious that it will be stuck for a certain time, or on the airfield, is it possible in the hangar, and this is also a risk for the people who will maintain it, it is in the air for a limited amount of time, you say, there are

systems that... can potentially protect it, so what do we need to think about some kind of protection system now civil airfields, if we want to carry out civilian flights, well, in fact, yes, because it will be necessary to ensure that not only air defense systems work at these airfields, but also a radio-electronic warfare system that would protect against certain drones, that's actually here again , a certain beshelon defense must be built, which would give... the opportunity to use this airspace or the territory of the airport without, well, it is dangerous for the unprecedented whose experience we can use israeli can be as example, because the same arsenal of weapons that russia uses against us is not used there, yes, but then again they have, if we talk about the israeli air defense system, it is a steel dome - it is one of the three systems that protects there is the mouth of david, here. therefore, in fact

, we can look at israel, but i think that , taking into account how russia uses missile systems, other means, some kind of missile arrays, we can build them ourselves, that is, we have enough experience to create the correct echeloned system in time, how long it may take, because it is usually faster to take a ready-made system and integrate it than to develop your own, there is no ready-made system. yes, there were no such problems, there were no such problems as shachet, there were no, that is, the world is only now recognizing that it is necessary to find a solution to detect the same fpv drones, the same small ones, drones, that is, due to the fact that it is a small , a small device that can be there at a low speed in the air space, it is simply invisible to the radar detection station, those

who worked against aircraft, against. missiles and so on, because of the low altitude, up to 500 m altitude, that is, it flies low, and because of this, all this in the complex must be solved by new means, and here we have the opportunity to create such a system, which will definitely meet all these tasks, it is clear that with a certain experience there, well , look at the technologies offered there in other countries, and what are the chances that a conventional boeing will be accompanied by two f16? in order to guarantee his safety, at least in the air, taking into account the laser guidance, laser destruction system that you mentioned, well, taking into account the fact that, for example, in the event of an air alert, there will be an aircraft, a civilian aircraft in the airspace, i think it is quite logical that what will happen a certain protection will be created there. well, it's just a hollovic picture, well, i think i've only seen this in movies, in my opinion, this war is just us...