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but i think that the potential that exists today can, let's say, work for a certain time and provide solutions to the problems that are necessary, but its restoration and replenishment is the issue we talked about a little earlier, this it is also necessary to deal with it at the state level, and then literally one and a half minutes about whether it was possible to solve the reservation issue, because if there are employees, how are there engineers, who are actually related... to the products that the company is currently producing, or are there you have confidence that they will continue to be to work at the company precisely because of the correct booking procedure, not all issues have been resolved yet, but we know that work is underway to introduce changes to resolution 76, which should, after all, save us from problems with some wrongs. what kind of problems
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these days create crazy, well, that is, it creates crazy problems for the company, because people who have been working for many years, who make up actually, well, the basis of our, our our engineering company, it turns out from time to time that, for example, someone the wrong truck, and even with an existing reservation, for some reason tsc allow themselves to be violated. in violation of the law, to recognize the order of the ministry of economy as invalid, to take people away, we constantly come across such stories and constantly free our employees from tsc, and as reserved boys and girls, well girls, i mean they are not drafted, a is meant. who also work at the enterprise, they
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also face certain problems, and we have some specialists who simply went to tsc for a specified specialty, being reserved, and they actually found themselves in a situation where they tried to take them to the army, took away their military ids, there are, for example, specialists who turned 27, that is, they came to the tcc in order to get a military id, and they they said come after the 27th, and when they came after the 27th , they were handed summonses and told: ok, now you will serve in the army, and any letters from the company that we give that confirming that the person is working, that he is working it is not the first year that this specialist has been with us needed, they don't accept it at all, so i ... hope that changes will be made
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and definitely, without any wasps, all the specialists of the company who work for the defense will be booked without any questions. mr. artem, thank you very much for the inclusion , for these explanations, i hope that your company will have more orders next year than this year, i will remind our viewers that it was artem vyunnyk, the director of nvp athlon avia, which manufactures unmanned reconnaissance and adjustment complexes. fire for our artillery and mechanized brigades, then we will talk about the development of strike drones, for example, another well-known company, but about this after the advertising and information block. it is a good tradition, during the christmas holidays, to carol together with the picardy terc. the spirit of christmas
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will definitely come to your city. picardy tertia. good health to good people. live sound. 93 separate. mechanized brigade cold ravine is in dire need of drones. to effectively hit the enemy and increase the losses of living and non-living forces of the occupier. for approaching victory, on which all of ukraine is waiting for. glory to ukraine. glory be to the heroes.
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continuing our program on war and weapons, where we talk about unmanned systems and their production, here it is. today , the armed forces operate 70 different modifications of unmanned systems and more than 20 types of ammunition for strike drones, but what should be done to make more of them and what problems should be solved for this and are being solved by our main private companies, because out of five companies, which produce four are private companies which manufacture weapons of any purpose, and now the head joins us. holidays, you too, let me start with the fact that, according to the minister of strategic
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industries oleksandr kamyshin, ukraine has or will produce more than a million fpv drones, 10,000 medium strike drones. of 1,000 long-range unmanned systems per year, starting next year, where exactly are your unmanned systems on this list, in which directions is your company currently moving in the creation of unmanned models? well, look, we actually are we cover such and such directions, so these are shock drones, which are camicadze. from 10 km to there 40 and 800, so, and that is why they can be called relative to fpv, because at the final stage of bringing to the target, they can be controlled both by the pilot and follow
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the coordinates, depending on the situation, which is with suppression from the side the enemy, that's why there are a million fpv drones, here they are shown, for example, of this type, yes, these are the drones that are cheaper, kamikadze, which are quite easy to suppress by the enemy, by means of radio, radio reconnaissance, detection, and including suppression, which concerns those drones that we are producing now, and which we are already delivering for special forces, these are drones, bombers. these drones are actually uh copter type, you can't say they are in pv because they fly in place, they hover over the object, they work with lte networks, they work with other means of communication like
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video, and communication, so it is impossible to say that these are directly fpv, because they are not... yes, but they can be used as fpv. and who do you have now? the basic customer of the ministry of defense, the ministry of digital transformation with the state special forces or volunteers, how do you arrange these customers according to priorities, opportunities and readiness to cooperate with your company? now we have closed it now . in addition, there are deliveries going separately, because the complex deliveries are going separately. separate deliveries of combat units, so this is the national guard, in fact we are currently working with special services to perform special tasks, i cannot disclose these services by agreement,
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who will carry out missions, both from this side, from this side, and in the territory of the enemy, so these are mainly direct, direct ... agreements and contracts plus volunteer volunteers, and we are working on taking a state order from the state special communications, the ministry of digital it is not contracted directly, it is through the state intelligence service, and we go through the procedures for the ministry of defense, because there they are a little bigger and more complicated with the involvement of military personnel in order to supply for... the ministry of defense, that is, we work in all directions, the most , this the result is the national guard and special services. and i still can't help but ask about the state intelligence service, because in several programs with you we talked about the fact that, on the one hand
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, the state security service accumulates large amounts of money for the purchase of drones, de facto not all companies that wanted to order to secure contracts through... state special communications was able to do this, then there were changes in the state special communications' leadership, and now some new, more productive reality for interaction has begun. and with companies that are ready to produce drones for the needs of the security sector defense, do you have any new experience in communication with the new leadership of the detszvyazuk? look, i will point out the problems that there were , the most important problem is that under the previous leadership, and most importantly, not even under the leadership of the state intelligence service itself, but under the leadership of the department headed by mr. mokrenko, which dealt with admission, in fact to the commission and contracting . under this leadership, they took on a role that is not characteristic of them, i.e., additional evaluation of the combat
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capability and additional evaluation of the price of the complexes, i.e., after the independent the experts give their assessment, they are once again trying to say with their own vision that this is true or not, not only that, mr. mokrenko also... uh did it in such a way that they stopped the assessment from the experts with calls, and this is an excess of authority, and this should probably be investigated by the state security bureau and so on, in parallel with the fact that there may still be some proceedings there, and there were also cases when representatives of the state intelligence service came to those combat units that placed orders for some drones, they said, why do you need these, take these eyes. not to mention that there is information going around all divisions
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that the purchases of mavics, for example, were twice as large, there are 6-12 thousand, different figures are circulating, that is, all this should be investigated by law enforcement agencies so that, in fact , this does not happen, we have a very so, let's say so, the hope and... the vision that the new management will be able to change this trend, this so-and-so, sorry for the taftology, trend approach, the approach that did not allow many companies to contract and did not allow, let's say, when performing all the procedures, which are prescribed in resolutions of the government, to go for a serious state contract, i had a conversation with the new head of state special communications. the more he is familiar with our guys and
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has been there on some tasks, and we have a perspective and a vision that this must change, although everything happens differently, because people are the same, well, they are the same until the appointment , after the appointment of others we have, we will hope that this is not the case, but here it is not even a question of personalities, here the question is... in principle, that there are prescribed procedures, do you have an application from combat unit, you have an application from , well, not an application, but there was a permit for operation before, now there are simplified procedures, you have an assessment, you still go out for contracting and you need to execute these million drones and more, because without without helping companies , without seeing how scaled companies are actually going to do their jobs and how it's going to work on the front lines,
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we're not going to identify the best examples, we, we, we, we, we're just going to see a few dozen companies out there that can do some things and not others will develop, so the most important thing is to carry out what vice prime minister fedorov and other officials said, that all those who are ready... for contracting, all those who can do - and do make good drones, fulfill state orders, and able to do it on their own, on their capacities and on their human capabilities, they must be contracted for supply to the front, and now there is a catastrophic lack of drones on the front, when we are talking about state assistance to private companies like yours, which... tries to do everything for that the fighters on the front are provided with various drones, in previous appeals
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to our officials you said two things: to help with facilities where certain components of the production and assembly of drones can be placed, and the second is credit resources for the purchase of possibly necessary equipment, which is lacking in certain directions, during this time, what has changed, or do these problems still remain? important for the solution, look, it has changed radically, we are not waiting for the state, we have collected investment funds, we are launching what i then already announced, that is, the full scaling of the production of motors, controllers, propellers, frames, we already held a meeting a few days ago, we will already enter the market with the offer of such a kit, that is, what is it, it is actually a frame, propellers, controllers, the motors from which you can already assemble
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the new type of osa drones, they will be very military, very... powerful and better than the chinese fpv drones made of carbon, so we will already go out for an offer to supply this type, preparatory materials, preparatory components of ukrainian production, so that ukrainian drones could already be assembled, not depending on chinese suppliers, therefore the issue with production capacities for the complete set. er, i think we have decided, the issue is the help of production capacity and scaling for the production of the drones themselves, and not the components for them, it remains, if the state really wants to get a million or more drones, it has, including through the komyshin department , means to help in the purchase and leasing of equipment
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for the production, for scaling, a larger number of drones, so far we, well, we can do it cope, i will mention another issue , more important, probably, this is the issue of reservations, because this norm of 50% of the one, from the number of employees who are there, it does not allow us to carry out large orders normally and efficiently, because everyone must understand , that in addition to the engineer and... and the designer and the it specialist, there should be administrative staff who deal with logistics, procurement, supply of materials, supply of components, there should be an accountant, and so on, and therefore one hundred percent booking is required, let it be control of the general staff, that these people are really involved in this topic, but one hundred percent reservation,
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not only that, it should be from the start of the purchase decision. it should be automatically given to the company from the start, and not as if there is a contract, you go to the ministry of economy, through the general staff, you agree, and it takes two months, if not more, now this is the procedure, and then in these two months already people they are called to the military commissariat, they are taken away, people are motivated, they go, or start looking for something... the opportunity not to go, because he is a specialist specifically in this field, it will bring more by releasing drones, so it should not be, it should be done automatically, it should be done on a permanent basis, and this is absolutely important, this is the importance, and the second is the question, this is long-term contracting, because if you
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contract for two or three months, then what to do with people, where are their prospects, they can go and... to other, to other sources of income, they need to feed their families, that is, there should be at least annual contracting with transition from one year to another of this of the budget process, and this is serious, these two things will help the scaling of drone production, well, you absolutely repeat, well , these most painful elements of our life, because literally in front of you, i had a conversation with artem, the manager of the company, and he said the same thing about reservations... and long-term planning, without this it is impossible, well, the director of the enterprise clearly determines how he should act in the future, in order to create new models there, to have certain conditions for this, but i will still ask about what you had a certain problem when you started to make domestic components for fpv drones, and somehow they turned out to be more expensive than
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chinese ones, and then, relatively speaking, the procurement body there says, no, no, we will not be there a lot. .. the boletus has its components, because they are more expensive than chinese ones, then the prosecutor’s office will come to me, i’d rather not buy them at all, this is now yours, your bet on the creation of national components, national drones, has the situation changed a little already, or again, there will be no problem that it is more expensive than chinese, then we will not buy, look, it was the easiest for us, there was no painful decision, we are not a problem, we can produce from chinese components, it is not a problem to produce. there are 700 of them, but it’s just a collection, it’s not ukrainian drones, that’s all we show, what you show, even in our previous videos, what you show, or where fedorov walks, it’s all china. assembly is not ukrainian, it is not ukrainian drones, we have to move away from this, when we were told that we will not, your drones are expensive, we will not take them, because
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comparing with the chinese, they did not compare this mokrenko himself, he did not understand, although we explained to him several times, and this was most likely just a tendentious position, that this drone has completely different characteristics, it is also in the ministry of defense. in the approval for operation, it is approved as a drone-type, and it is actually not comparable to what is currently imported from china. from china, these drones do not work under the trenches, their losses are quite high, they are smaller, less ammunition, ammunition is carried on a smaller scale distance, that is, there are various aspects that do not allow. to compare them, but we made a decision that we will stand our ground, we will fulfill special orders, and we
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are already fulfilling them, and those special services that went through the market and looked at what drones are, came to us, and now we doing specific things that no one else is doing, i can't reveal them, but for specific tasks, they will work. and they will show, shall we say, for the mass market, how much more efficient it is to use a drone that flies 30 times and under the enemy works by special means, yes , how can one drone be launched or 10 drones be launched by fpv, yes, they have the right to exist, they perform their fpv mission, and will be for some time, and may... continue to perform this mission, but what will happen then , when in fact, what will happen when china stops
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the supply, what will happen when we cannot provide the needs of the front in such volumes, we need to think about it now and solve these issues through drones like ours, through our other colleagues there drones, but which are made. 70-80 components from ukraine, from ukraine - from ukrainian production. therefore, i think, with the new management , this issue will be clearly resolved, and with a correct assessment, because the order for these drones is with the contracting next. let's see, in the next program we will see how this situation is already developing, and what changes have taken place in the state intelligence service in relation to the ukrainian manufacturer, and now defense minister umirov says that next year, probably around 50 billion, which were planned
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to be disposed of by the ministry of digital and state intelligence from the point of view of the purchase of drones, it still should go to the ministry of defense, then it will probably be no less important to influence the situation and world, we hope that the approaches there will be absolutely so effective that the potential of your company will be used. maximum, but as i understand from a technical point of view you had fpu drone osa, then repulse, then kievan rus, and another sample appears, which is an improved version of the wasp, or something different than the wasp, but with larger combat opportunities, we are talking about it, look at it, we are parallel to that, you have shown the videos several times ours with osya, we did it on the fly. ten-inch, so it performed its functions, but it’s this type of drones, they work, well, they don’t work under the influence of rap, they
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don’t carry the necessary amount of load for the necessary range, i won’t repeat the numbers there, yes, so , that's why we created our unique drone, osa, that's what it's called, it's still called osa, actually we call it osa 2.0, which is completely. of our ukrainian equipment, so this, our frames, are special there, i will not voice the decisions that are inside, and so on, we only voice them for the units , so that they are not on the air and the orcs here do not listen, which means that he, he was already prepared from the beginning in parallel with what we, what we did was supply these first, the first type of drones. that's why we continue, we will position a few more boards now, but the concentration now really goes to
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the osa drone and the drone. the cut-offs, which have been developed, have received their permits for operation and are under contract. and i would like to ask about personnel training. all of your drones are unique in some way. does this mean that you are simultaneously forced to engage in military training at your facilities, or are your operators already operating in military units performing combat missions. how is it going with you today? well, we don't. the actions of our operators did not stop when performing combat tasks in our combat unit , firstly, secondly, we really train during the transfer, depending on the qualifications of those pilots who receive the drones, that is, we or theirs there is a shorter period we teach, if they have flown on a similar type of drone or more, but in principle we have our own method of training
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pilots, and it works successfully, and it is clear that we will receive orders of more than a thousand per month, then this will be a challenge, for that , to train the required number of pilots, but this is a challenge not only for us, it is a challenge for everyone, that is , in parallel with this , pilot training schools are engaged in this, if people already know how to fly a similar type, here is a rebuttal, for example, you show. well, with wings, yes, that is, if on pilots have already flown this type of drone , it’s easier for them, there is a week of successful preparation for such a serious job, and it can already work, basically it takes two weeks, if the pilot is really not ready, then we need to do it more, but we mainly work with trained pilots who have
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combat experience. and the last question, i would like to ask whether there is progress in increasing, well, conditionally speaking, the technological capabilities of the same fpv drones or other models at the expense of artificial intelligence, so that, that is, to aiming the strike drone at the end of the flight without the participation of the operator, are there any advances in this direction, if there are, then say in general terms, if not, then say that we are working, i don’t know, sorry, i already have... let me finish here , the commander is calling tro, look , this is the point, so right now, as we speak, we are undergoing tests, not tests, these tests with the targeting system are already final, are we yesterday or the day before yesterday, yes guys finalized with one combat unit what they need from artificial intelligence, and not only artificial intelligence, but a special communication system,
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we... we are very actively working on this and we are entering the final stages, i will not be there yet, you know, so as not to spoil things, everything should work out, i think that even in january we can already say something, so we are keeping our fingers crossed for now, we are working on it very seriously, the last mile of getting to the target, tracking the target, selecting the target with artificial intelligence, this is the challenge that... not only our company is engaged in this, but we are very actively engaged in this and are already showing it the results on the training grounds, i hope that we will soon show them on the front line. sorry, i have to finish already, thank you very much for the inclusion , for your explanations, i would like to remind you that it was valery borovyk, the chairman of the board of nova energy of ukraine, as well as the head of the bila orel unit, which operates on the front line and destroys the enemy based on the capabilities of its own
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combat drones, that's how... were the main participants of this program and we can say that the potential of our companies for the production of drones exists, the question is for the state to find optimal forms of interaction with by our enterprises to increase the number of drones of various purposes on the front line in order to bring victory closer and destroy the enemies as much as possible. stay tuned to espresso. of all ukrainian cities, muscovites hit kharkiv the hardest. the number of victims has increased in kyiv, rescue operations are ongoing in the dnipro.

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